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Let's Not Drink The Kool-Aid, And Let's Not Say We Did.
It has been most noticeable in the 24/7 news wars that election coverage brings out more talking and time filling by pundits and reporters as they dispense with other forms of news. They need to fill vast amounts of time with less and less information. Naturally, conversational qualities take over as there are a limited number of topics to discuss. What has struck me in the last few years is that talking heads have a tendency to repeat things that they have heard, many times repeating each other. It is brought into specific relief by the vocabulary we hear. People are very identifiable in terms of their facility with language by their vocabulary.
It is almost like an educational fingerprint. When you hear words that you know, but almost never hear in normal conversation, they sort of stand out. It seems with each election the heads listen to each other, and some “good word” they almost forgot creeps into the lexicon. I find it ironic that the major complaint about the blogosphere is that it is “rampant opinion with little means of verifiable of fact” and yet I don’t see a lot of difference when it comes to television. At least in the blogosphere you can talk back, and it is fairly simple to see who has the conviction of a good argument. On television you are left with little gems just hitting the speaker of your TV with a thud.
In the last election cycle the word was “gravitas”. Now I have known that word since I was a child and my father threw Latin at me all the time – don’t ask me why – but “gravitas” is a word that does not enjoy common usage. When you hear it over and over again it becomes annoyingly repetitive, and you start noticing who is parroting the new word. The new word this year is actually two words, but still in Latin. Saying “bona fides” is the way to preen your intellectual feathers this year, and it has the additional quality of pointing out who actually had a good education by how it is pronounced. I’ve heard a few mangled versions that made me wonder. Are these people not lawyers, or have they simply never been to mass? I am neither Catholic, nor an attorney, but I still get it – must be the musician’s ear. While I find all of this irritating, in a slightly humorous way, there is a phrase that has crept into everyone’s lexicon that has me seeing red. In both the blogosphere and in television coverage, not so much in print, people are quick to throw around the expression “drinking the Kool-Aid”.
At first I didn’t think much of it as people were just referring to the delusional qualities of Obama supporters. Since I am an Obama precinct captain I am well aware that we are not delusional – we just want the agreed upon, current primary/caucas system to decide who wins. From our perspective it is the Clintonites that are delusional. How can you even want a candidacy that is at the expense of everyone else? It is just un-American, or at least delusional. But as I heard this phrase over and over something started haunting me. What was haunting me was my own educational fingerprint, my own understanding of the real meaning of “drinking the Kool-Aid”.
I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and November, 1978 was the month that we were all left numb. As we experienced the shock of Supervisor Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone being assassinated in Moscone’s office by Supervisor Dan White, we were still ringing from the enormous shock of the Jonestown Massacre. These events happened within nine days of each other. Congressman Leo Ryan had led reporters and a delegation of concerned relatives to Guyana to investigate reports of mind control and imprisonment. The congressman and three others were murdered as they were about to fly home to report their findings. Subsequently, the people following the Rev. Jim Jones committed suicide. The majority of the members of the People’s Temple in Jonestown, Guyana were from San Francisco. The community was reeling. This one horrific act of mass suicide involving between 913 and 1100 people was achieved by “drinking Kool-Aid” laced with cyanide.
Maybe I didn’t catch on to the level of cynicism in this phrase because of some long term PTSD over my own regional history. Maybe, for a while, I just forgot through my own participation in collective amnesia. But in repetition, I am remembering. As far as the press using this phrase – they have no excuse. While many covering this election may be younger, many are not. In either case we depend on the press to at least be able to look at their archives for the stories that inform our language. For the rest of us there needs to be more reflection. If you are old enough to remember Jonestown, please think twice before rattling off that phrase as merely a way of explaining something you find unfathomable. If you are not old enough to remember, the web is replete with information on this gruesome mass death and it is easy to research. All you have to do is Google “Jonestown”. As we fire-off opinions to each other on our wonderful blogosphere let us show more originality than the mainstream media we love to trash. Let us not repeat a phrase that has no business being used so casually, and has no business describing the informed support of historic candidates. Let’s not drink the Kool-Aid, and let’s not say we did.







Comments (70)
I hew to Orwell's principles of political writing, which include the command to avoid phrases currently in use. His goal is to prevent the trap of buzzwords aborting thought.
I'll say this about the musical ear---I had the pleasure of sharing the stage with Obama for a performance of "Lincoln Portrait". That voice is fantastic.
April 19, 2008 10:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you for saying this. I too am from the San Francisco Bay Area and am old enough to remember the horror of the Jonestown Massacre, as well as the shock and dismay of seeing the pictures of all of those people who drank cyanide laced Kool Aid and died - many who were children.
I have been accused in posts on various sites of "drinking the Kool-Aid" just because I support Obama and it makes me sick that ANYONE would ever say this to another person, for any reason, period.
April 20, 2008 1:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I too have been offended by people who have the wir to copy-cat a phrase like "kool aid drinker," and not making the connection to mass suicide. One on level, you want to claim that you are against being a deluded follower of a cult-of-personality, but on another level you are comparing these "deluded followers," to a mass suicide.
I think "kool aid drinker," should be added as a correllary to Godwin's Law...
Call it the "Jonestown Effect." The conclusion should be the same: the argument is no longer substantive when the Jonestown mass suicide is used to describe a group of people. It is the same as comparing fellow Americans to nazis if they disagree with you. It is just as disparaging to presuppose that Obama's supporters would be willing to kill themselves at his bidding. Hitler drove people to kill others, Jim Jones drove people to kill themselves. Both acts are monstrous, and it does a disservice to history to turn either of these events into an insult directed at Americans who are making an informed political choice.
I appreciate this post a great deal. I think those out there who stick with the Obama cult meme are buying into the greater idea that liberals are mentally ill. Liberalism as a mental illness has become a mainstream conservative talking point. Ultimately, this kind of belief system can lead to unfortunate consequences.
I would reccomend that people do their research on cults and brainwashing techniques and compare them to Obama's campaign. You will find that this comparison is false and reprehensible.
I also wanted to say that the "kool aid drinker" insult is very elitist in nature. It presumes that you are somehow immune from Obama's charisma and this makes you superior. However, please note that by adopting the term "kool aid drinker," you are repeating a talking point that you yourself did not create. This proves that you are prone to suggestion in a way that makes you vulnerable.
April 20, 2008 2:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you so much for the additional insight.
"Liberalism as a mental illness has become a mainstream conservative talking point. Ultimately, this kind of belief system can lead to unfortunate consequences."
Yes, we have 7 years of proof: 4,000+ dead(ours), 30,000 maimed or injured, millions displaced from home, and anywhere between 150,000 and 600,00 dead (theirs), depending on who's mental illness you listen to.
April 20, 2008 2:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I just looked up your profile. I LOVED your last post. You are my hero.
April 20, 2008 2:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you.
I appreciate you bringing this issue up, especially though your lens of personal experience. I think it is sad that the left-leaning people in this country are being set against each other... espcially when we are hurting each other with weapons borrowed from the right wing's closet of outrage.
April 20, 2008 2:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I second your motion to add this corollary to Godwin's Law.
April 20, 2008 3:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
What's wrong with mass suicide? Of course that's the point of drinking the kool aid. Perhaps screaming, "Kill the Pig, Kill the Pig!!!" would make it feel better, and if you're carrying the conch at the time, oh what a lucky chap/lass you are!!! But it's much better on the other side - come join! Aside from some burning, it's horror-ific!!! You can belong!!!
April 20, 2008 5:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Your avatar is nauseating.
April 20, 2008 10:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Love the animated wretching. I'm jealous!
April 20, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm a native San Franciscan and I was eleven years old there in The City when the Jonestown massacre occurred. I'll never forget spending Thanksgiving with the family while images of body piled upon body piled upon body played relentlessly on the television screen.
I've never like the phrase "drinking the Kool-Aid."
April 20, 2008 2:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I had to read your a couple of times and really think about this. I'm totally guilty of playing with the kool-aid meme this season. In my defense, I was trying to turn it around and make it look as foolish as it is, but I did it nonetheless. I've also reflected privately about the true origins of this phrase, but I did not voice those reflections.
I'm glad you've taken the time to remind us all of the context.
April 20, 2008 3:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Argh. Word omission. That should have said "I had to read your post..."
April 20, 2008 3:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree.
So how about a nice Hawaiian Punch?
April 20, 2008 4:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was a kid when that happened too, and I couldn't stop thinking about it and how I would have snuck into the jungle, or pretended to drink it and then lay down among the soon-to-be corpses. Effing nightmare.
April 20, 2008 5:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I was visiting Israel at the time. We had a tour to the remains of a place near the Dead Sea where all the inhabitants killed themselves so that they would not be taken in by the Romans (Can't recall the name -- I AM 60 and forgetful; just ask Mr Clinton about that)
Our guide was going on and on about how noble they all were to kill themselves and their children so they would not have to mix with Romans. I asked the question: "How was that different than what happened in Guyana 2 days ago?"
I was NOT a popular person on that bus!
April 20, 2008 10:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
I imagined similar scenarios of survival, but the fact is, some were shot as they attempted to escape, others were made to drink it at gunpoint, and others were held and physically forced to ingest it. Most drank it willingly, though.
April 20, 2008 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Andrienne: thanks for writing... I think that those who use the "drink the kool-aid" phrase reveal a lot about themselves...
April 20, 2008 9:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
so do those who call Charlton Heston a bigot just because they disagree with his 2nd amendment position, ignoring his stance on civil rights and union leadership.
April 20, 2008 10:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
You could call Charlton Heston a bigot if you limited your scope to his views on gay rights.
Funny Anecdote:
I had the pleasure of rousing Mr. Heston's ire at a book signing. I wanted him to sign a first edition copy of Kinsey's study of human sexuality. He was not amused. I made the situation more awkward by asking him about Ben Hur. That did it. His face purpled as he roared:
"BEN HUR WAS NOT A HOMO!"
Security (gently) escorted me out of the movie theatre.
April 20, 2008 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
is there a point here? Heston opposed gay rights because he didn't think Ben Hur was gay? Is that your interpretation?
April 20, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is your point? That Charlton Heston was a super guy? What does that have to do with this thread, and why should anyone like him because he did one thing when he was young and liberal? After all, he did a bunch of other things when he got old and conservative.
April 20, 2008 10:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
to spell it out, he deserves more respect than to be labled a bigot at a time when his family is grieving, but not everyone on this board has manners, and not everyone is in a position to be passing judgement on the character of others.
April 20, 2008 4:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
And that is about Andrienne's blog about using Kool-Aide-Drinking as a lazy descriptive -- how, exactly?
April 20, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I dislike the expression, but mainly for the insult to the intelligence of the listenner it is.
April 20, 2008 10:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
A google search of 'kool-aid' and Iraq will reveal that usage of the term 'kool-aid drinking' pre-dates this election cycle. It has been used for years by the liberal blogs to characterize the Republican mindset after 2001 when the media and all of public opinion were homogeneous in their views and fealty to the Bush administration, regardless of the deceits and the calamity ahead.
Its usage by supporters of a candidate who lockstepped behind Bush is one of so many ironies.
April 20, 2008 11:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
The first use I recall of the phrase in a political context was in relation to whether certain members of the Bush cabinet (particularly Colon Powell) were on board with the invasion of Iraq.
Don't hold me to this, but I also seem to recall a PBS Frontline from about five years ago which contained a quote that indicated the phrase soon after went into use by some in the White House.
But that "Kool-Aid" phrase has become pertinent to us, here in this group, right now. These certain suspicious individuals who like to throw around slurs like that one, and other like "Obamanoid" and "Cult of Obama", are using prejudicial stereotyping in a pitiful attempt to discount a movement made up of unique individuals who support Barack Obama.
I strongly believe that their prejudice must be confronted. I've begun doing just that, and I will continue to do it, even if I'm the only one. Hopefully I won't be.
April 20, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
if i recall, it was a phrase that was used to describe tommy franks, AFTER he was prevailed upon by rumsfeld numerous times to deploy a smaller, faster, more technologically-dependent force; that this would be the way to go. franks was an adherent of the powell doctrine, but rumsfeld wanted a small footprint...
April 21, 2008 9:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
Andrienne,
Thanks for sharing your personal memories and insights. This is the first time I've read or heard anyone address the original context of this peculiar political reference.
As I remember it, and as AdAbsurdum points out on this thread, use of this term showed up during the early part of the Bush Administration as a description of the unquestioning and irrational loyalty of "the Bushies."
So much of your post reminded me of Al Gore's excellent (IMO) book, The Assault on Reason. If you haven't yet read it, I highly recommend it. You will appreciate the book's central thesis and Gore's treatment of the causes, effects, and possible solutions of the problems in our current public discourse.
April 20, 2008 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good post. Yes, scratch the silly kool-aid phrase. Not only because it speaks of Jonestown and LSD acid brews, but, as you point out, it reflects the dumbness of commentators who parrot phrases like penguins. And could we cease with the "Kumbaya moment" also?
April 20, 2008 2:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Kumbaya is definately in with gravitas, bona fides, and kool-aid.
April 20, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
100% Agree.
I think I mentioned something to this in a comment a day or so ago, when I perceived someone using brand new buzz words after the debate.
"Bitter-gate".
I am glad I am not alone in seeing this trend of what Id consider "idiocy".
April 20, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear heart, you are too young to be this cynical about the press. You haven't been around long enough to really remember the days when it was far more objective than it is today.
As for the assassination of Harvey Milk, I remember it too. I was working right across the street. If it had such an impact upon you, it puzzles me that you still support a candidate who early in the campaign invited the likes of Donny McClurkin to MC one of his campaign events in the South. And please don't throw out the Obama damage-control line about Obama just trying to bring the gays and the hompophobes together. Obama was trying to siphon off black support for Hillary by pandering to black bigotry against gays. It was the equivalent of, say, John Edwards sharing the stage with a member of the KKK, and then saying he was just trying to bring the KKK and the blacks together. Did your father teach you the meaning of the Latin word "somnium"?
April 20, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's another thing that's repeated over again about Donnie McClurkin.
Mr. McClurkin was a practicing homosexual because of his upbringing and repeated rapes as a child.
He only said that the choices that a person makes does not have to result from these types of traumas. This angered people who believe that sexuality is purely genetic with no outlying causes that shape behavior.
April 20, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Spare me.
April 20, 2008 9:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it's a generational thing. Having drunk the real electric Kool-Aid of the Sixties, I always think that's what "drinking the Kool-Aid" is all about. I know about Jonestown, of course, but I don't associate that kind of Kool-Aid with Obama loyalists. Nor do I think of them as enlightened, tuned in, or hip in the sense of the '50s and '60s. So I never use the Kool-Aid phrase to describe them. I use echo chamber. We had those in the '60s, too, but that's another story.
April 20, 2008 4:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Back then you were either on the bus or off the bus, not thrown under the bus. Further. No man is an island - he's a peninsula.
April 20, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
As long as we're talking about today's vapid no-speak, would you make that "no person is an island -she/he's a peninsula.
April 20, 2008 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I said I'd drunk the Kool-Aid. My generation never could follow orders.
April 20, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
What generation is that?
April 20, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Out of sight, out of mind
It takes a village!
April 20, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks Billy for making the obvious point.
You'd think that people here would know about Tom Wolfe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Electric_Kool-Aid_Acid_Test
Contextually, "drinking the Kool-Aid" in reference to Jonestown makes no sense: no one is talking about committing suicide. Wolfe's use ("join the party") is much more accurate.
Besides, I've got my Kool-Aid smile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBeUGqeYsQg
April 20, 2008 6:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Psst... for those who haven't figured it out, this also neatly ties into the "bus" references.
No charge to TPM for the pink bow I just put on the topic.
April 20, 2008 6:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Funny. I was writing my own contextual post (and tending to one of my stores), unaware that you'd posted this in the mean time.
I think it's safe to say that we took a different tack. :)
April 20, 2008 6:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yep, you were eloquent and complete, and I was glib!
But we all agree and that's what's important. ;-)
April 20, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha Ha.. Thanks. :) And I'm no stranger to glib, myself.
April 20, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
You do realize I was supporting Billy's position, right?
April 20, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Context.
For the benefit of those who don't know, the "electric Kool-Aid" you're referring to is derived from Tom Wolfe's "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" which chronicled the LSD fueled "cross-country journey of self-discovery" undertaken by "Ken Kesey and his band of Merry Pranksters." (By the way, a movie on the subject, directed by Gus Van Sant, is scheduled to be released next year.)
The current political use of "drink the Kool-Aid" is not referring to that journey, but rather to the criticism made by some that a Jim Jones-like devotion to George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, etc. existed at the highest levels of the Executive Branch.
Could two things be any more opposite...?
Obviously, it's the second use of "Kool-Aid" that I described which is in regular use by certain (apparent) supporters of Hillary Clinton.
And Billy, due to technology's advancement, many Barack Obama supporters are much *more* "tuned in" than most of those folks back in the Sixties.
In addition I believe that "echo chamber" is, at best, a lazy way of defining what's actually a diverse, complex movement and, at worst, it's exactly the prejudicial stereotyping that I refer to a few posts up.
And also you use of the term "Obama loyalists"... "Loyalists" were American colonists who remained sided with the British in the American Revolution, and "nazi loyalist" is a hot button phrase that speaks for itself. Yes, "loyalist" has a modern political use, but when used in a critical context...
If you want to play Frank Luntz style games with words, that's one of your freedoms as an American. I'll just use my freedom as an American to have a lowered view of your opinions, and a feeling of disappointment because a smart guy feels he can't make his points purely on their own merit, without the use of manipulative language.
April 20, 2008 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thank you! I was finding the acid reference a bit obscure. I know many who loved that book, including myself, who were also liberal with acid - in fact one friend wants to start the "I Inhaled" Party, but we know that is not what this phrase is about. What an eleoquent defense of the topic.
April 20, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
For what it's worth, this "don't drink the..." is documented at least as far back as 1987:
http://www.wordspy.com/words/drinktheKool-Aid.asp
It was applied to Marion Barry in this particular quote.
Still and all, "Don't drink the Kool-Aid" *does* come from Tom Wolfe:
http://faqs.cs.uu.nl/na-dir/food/kool-aid-faq.html
By the way, it wasn't Kool-Aid that was used in Jonestown.
It was Flavor-Aid.
April 20, 2008 7:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh friends of mine at the time (again I was 11) would regularly say it to each other. It was common slang, at among least people I knew in San Francisco. I remember my mother said it! I think it was a psychological response that many had to the gruesome event and it's relentless coverage.
Thanks for the facts, clearthinker. Love the facts.
Didn't know about the Marion Barry related use of it.
I'm not aware of the specific phrase "Don't Drink the Kool-Aid" being attributed to Tom Wolfe. Of course, Kesey and the group were all about "*drinking* the Kool-Aid" (minus the "don't").
"It was Flavor-Aid."
I'm sure the Kool-Aid people wish more of the public knew that. But still "Flavor-Aid" doesn't have the ring.
April 20, 2008 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
PF Harlock said:
I believe Billy Glad uses "echo chamber" in reference to TPM comment threads, not in reference to any self-anointed "movement." It means that everyone in the threads repeatedly congratulate each other and tediously reiterate Obama talking points. Hence the term echo. Get it? It's a 100-percent accurate description of TPM, this thread included (see comments directly above mine).
Elitist statement. (Translation: Obama supporters are superior to Sixties "folks.")
Oy! Another elitist statement. (FYI, Billy used the common, accepted lowercase form of the word loyalist.)
Wow! Both passive-aggressive and elitist! God Bless America and the First Amendment!
One never questions why Obama supporters are sometimes called whiny. heh.
April 20, 2008 8:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dude... You could make it only a few lines in before you stooped to simplistic labels and gross generalization. I just stopped reading.
I respond to reasoned arguments, not insults. And think about it, who does respond to that? Does that work out there in the world?
No... It doesn't.
April 20, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I counted 16 lines before the first "elitist." Same number of lines it took you to get to being much more tuned in due to advances in technology. It took me 18 lines to get to the echo chamber in my last comment.
My 8-year-old daughter, reading over my shoulder, just asked: "Are there really dumb people who don't agree with you?"
I covered for you.
I'm just kidding. Don't get your feelings hurt again.
April 20, 2008 9:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
You took my technology remark not in the manner I intended it, but in the manner that suited your argument.
That's the game so many people are sick of.
OK. I'm gone for now.
April 20, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, I'm simply saying you're the one who is insulting.
April 20, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
My last comment was meant for everyone but PF Harlock to read.
April 20, 2008 9:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I just wonder, if you have such disdain for all the comments, and you got this far down in the comments, why you stick it out? Is it some kind of masochism? It must be hard on you trying to think up rebuttals. I say that because I notice that you just repeat yourself over and over.
OY! Well, we know where you're coming from! Ha ha! But if you keep coming back to the "echo chamber" is it because you think you might change minds? Not with the crap you are writing, pal!
April 20, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
When are you going to take that sabbatical from TPM you threatened to take?
April 20, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh. I think I've hurt your feelings! I'm sorry. I'll tell you something about technology. To get the government to drop his dope charges, Tim Leary had to agree to go back on the lecture circuit and recant.
His lectures had two parts. In the first part of the lecture, Leary recanted by saying that he had been wrong to claim that the system couldn't be changed from within. I never imagined, he said, that a bunch of guys who used to steal hubcaps at Atlanta music festivals would end up running the government. The second thing he said was that all intelligent life was moving West and the only West left was outer space. So he said he intended to play some electronic music in the second part of the lecture that would transform the audience's minds in a way that would prepare them for the exodus from the planet. Anybody who didn't want their brains altered had better leave during the intermission. That was the first part of the lecture.
I didn't stay for the second part.
Maybe that's why I'm not as cool as Barack's supporters.
As far as the echo chamber goes, I'll change that to social club if you like.
April 20, 2008 8:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You didn't hurt my feelings.
I was simply *sharing* my feelings.
And I'm hurrying. I need to go. It looks like you changed the subject to something about Timothy Leary being crazy (Is that a revelation? The guy was a total burn-out). I not sure why exactly, but maybe we'll talk about that later.
"Social club" is humorous and kind of cute, but there's really no need to create your own labels for groups when individuals have already identified what they, and the groups they belong to, are called.
April 20, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm afraid to ask.
April 20, 2008 9:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can hardly believe you left after the first part of the lecture! What did you have to lose? Everything he said was true up until then; is that why you couldn't stand it? A "truth echo chamber?"
I don't know why you're not as cool as I am, but leaving that lecture is part of the reason. I also think using the term, "echo chamber" in every post is another one.
April 20, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Buses make me vomit.
April 20, 2008 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Definitely time to throw the Kool-Aid under the bus.
April 20, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually this phrase has been around much longer than the Obama campaign. I have heard it used consistently to describe people in the Bush administration. Usually someone who had a respectable reputation until they joined the administration.
April 20, 2008 9:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
I too heard "Kool-Aid" used about Bush people before this election. And although I'm well aware of the Tom Wolfe/Ken Kesey connection, there seems NO doubt that "Drink the..." as currently used is a reference to Jonestown. It does not mean "becoming more enlightened" (or "blowing one's mind"), which the Kesey reference would mean. It means "blind loyalty," la Jim Jones. And as a way of describing any political beliefs, it's shoddy and misleading. Thank you, Andrienne!
April 20, 2008 9:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
OK, I'm on board with not using "Drinking the Kool-Aide" as a metaphor for blindly agreeing with whatever is said by a political hack, if it truly offends people who associate it with the tragedy in Guyana.
Truth is, though, we have to find another term, because it is a phenomenon in search of a short-hand word or phrase.
The problem is, that thinking up a word or phrase is not as effective as one that just pops up. It has to be pithy, self-explanatory, and one that catches on easily. I kind of like the original, but if it offends people, let's come up with something else that will work.
All the ones that I can think of can't be said in front of the children (and have to do with Dick Cheney's body parts) so they are out.
Any ideas?
April 20, 2008 10:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Echo chamber
April 23, 2008 10:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Though I figure this comment is buried, as the bus has already left, I must leave my thoughts (cause they are so important...no, really.)
Blah blah! I will stand up and fight, you will NOT take away the kool-aid term from us. Nor any of the other words I like to use. I'm...an American! oh yeah, I'm going to live forever!
May 3, 2008 6:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
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