One of the more interesting facts about the insular world of the Obama echo chamber is they seem to believe that Wright has no standing and no support in this argument with Obama.

Suddenly, the prophetic black preacher they idolized last week is anathema. Less than zero with them. Obama has spoken. Obama has won.

And, to new10, the Tuzla story reveals a serious character flaw. People tell war stories. Apparently, powerful people tell them and no one calls them on their bullshit, and they come to believe them. But a lot of people have decided that this particular character flaw is not that serious. We'll see if most people come to the same conclusion about Obama's learning curve vis a vis Jeremiah Wright.

This is by far one of the biggest stretches of metaphor I have seen on TPM.

It starts off reasonably enough and then quickly dives into the gutter with ad hominem attacks and unsubstantiated assumptions based on no cited evidence. An opinion screed being presented as "Oh so reasonable" fact.

The facts are that America is not a right wing country. The right wing in this country - as commonly defined - occupies the same 23 percent that still approve of Bush.

You apparently occupy the Lefty equivalent of the Baby Bush lovers. "Barack isn't ready. He needs to wait his turn. Hillary is a fighter! She'll fight for us! Jeremiah Wright, though a charming devil, is Satan nonetheless."

However, our history paints a different story. Our constitution tells a different tale. America is reliably progressive. The republican party, historically, is way more progressive than conservative. The democratic party, historically, is way more conservative than progressive with the exception of FDR.

The two parties have traded identities of late, but the democrats still toe the corporate bottom line. The last truly progressive legislation in this country was passed by a republican. The same crazy ass republican who started the whole flawed Unitary Executive crap in the first place. It's all his protégés who completed the take over of the republican party that gave us Eisenhower and Teddie Roosevelt and Lincoln.

For now, we still have freedom of speech in this country as well as freedom of association. Some of us are able to hold two opposing ideas in our heads at the same time. Reverend Wright has walked his talk for 40 years. His church provided the services that your candidate couldn't be bothered to provide during her many years of national "experience." If Reverend Wright was given to using piss cups, Hillary wouldn't be fit to hold it.

Actions speak way louder than words. Reverend Wright, like Barack, has actually done things for the most vulnerable citizens in our society. McCain and Hillary latched on to the public teat decades ago and never let go. They are compromised, at best, and most likely corrupt to the bone. They use distraction and innuendo to distract the voters from what is truly important. The think bombing Iran (or even threatening to bomb Iran) is sane foreign policy. They both represent a status quo that will KILL US if we allow it to continue.

You don't care about any of that. You are more comfortable with your allusions and illusions. You would rather denigrate good men than accept the fact that your candidate ran the wrong race and didn't deserved to win in any case. Seems like no one told her it was a delegate race - much like the general - and not a popular vote race where winning a few big states give you the election.

For Billy, the contrarian, this is not an echo chamber, If you bothered to pay close attention, you would see all kinds of opinions that don't stand in the way of one undeniable fact - Barack Obama has a plan that will allow us to start the decades long work of fixing this country. Hillary and McCain don't even come close to offering the same platform for change with a meaningful track record of actually having accomplished it at the state and federal level.

They are part of the problem. Their egos will only hasten our destruction.

BWHAHAHAHAHA...that first paragraph...man, you really do not know a damn thing about black people. I'm fully aware of your psuedo-academic brand of bigotry and realize that 90% of what you say is 100% crap, but that first paragraph...that's hilarious, thanks for the laugh.

I love your response jason!!! d-i-t-t-o!!

My point of view is that Barack Obama has the makings of someone important, but he isn't made yet.

I think that Reverend Wright is much more interesting than Barack Obama.

It seems to me that either you are with Reverend Wright or you're not. What Wright says is true enough and important enough to stand up for, but if you put winning above that and you could, ethically, then you distance yourself in time. As it is Obama stands as either a closet pink or a wimp.

Somebody wrote the following to my home blog:

Obama is not naturally empathic -- he does not understand how people feel about things and thus has trouble predicting the results of his own action. He can figure it out intellectually but he needs time and distance to do this.

I suspect his mother spent a lot of time asking him how he thought his actions made other people feel long before Obama was able to read how people feel.

If Obama does not understand at a gut level how people feel about things many of his errors become much more predictable. An empathic politician would never have worded the Bittergate comment the way Obama did because the empathic politician's head would have been ringing with alarm bells about how people would feel about the comment. I doubt if a trace of a conception of how people would feel about that comment ever crossed Obama's mind.
I think that this is very perceptive.