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IT'S ABOUT NOVEMBER, STUPID: HRC LOST AND OBAMA WON AND IT IS TIME TO DESTORY JOHN BUSH-MCCAIN
I have expended way too much energy into the Obama vs HRC debate when the reality is that Obama is the Democratic nominee. I will no longer enable HRC's quixotic bid for the White House.
In short, HRC no longer matters in American politics. Thank God!
Hence, I will focus my future energies on defeat John Bush-MCain in November. This mean I will continue to attack HRC's efforts to get John Bush-McCain elected in HER hope that she can run again in 2012. Frankly, I am tired of HRC and McCain battling over the re-writing of the history of the 1960s and 1970s. I want and need a candidate who is living in 2008.
Progressives need to understand that HRC is about making John Bush-McCain the next president. It is her only hope. I will do everything in my powers to prevent John Bush-McCain from being the next president including destroying HRC in the process.
Comments (23)
Throw in Dick and his chimp and you got yerself a deal.
April 11, 2008 8:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sometimes, even I am fooled into forgetting that winning a primary is not about "holding on", "still standing" or vowing to "go to the convention".
It's about winning over people. And there hasn't been much of lately in the Clinton camp. I'd be curious to know how many people voting for her know would have said they'd vote for her 7 years ago. I'd guess "most".
April 11, 2008 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Welcome to the fold! Here's your Hawaiian Punch (we secretly stopped with the Kook Aid back in December)!
April 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Huzzah!
But serious question, why does Hillary do so well in PA and in IN, I mean demographics aside. Do those people really not understand that she cannot win? You would think that would suppress support, but in fact it seems to have the inverse effect?
April 11, 2008 12:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're spelling his name wrong.
It's Johm McAnus.
April 11, 2008 12:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent. I can't wait for more post traumatic stress disorder hilarity and ALL CAPS TITLES.
You seem to have misled people who somehow missed the "destroying HRC" bit and are unfamiliar with your distinguished career as a TPM blogger that you have undergone a destor23-like switch from Clinton to Obama. That, of course, is horse shit, as you have been ranting against Clinton for some time.
In addition, I'm sorry to say that your power to destroy Clinton and to prevent a McCain presidency by way of of hysterical blogging amounts to butkis. If you want to make a difference, make some phone calls, and get out the Obama vote. If, on the other hand, you want to impress anyone at TPM, tone down your rhetoric.
April 11, 2008 12:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you mean "bupkis". Does that qualify as a Freudian slip?
Also, right on about the all caps titles. Reading them feels like getting yelled at.
April 11, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for correcting my ass.
April 11, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
If you can't handle the truth of the losing HRC campaign, I cannot do much about that. As for my work on behalf the Obama campaign... been there, done that, and am doing that. So keep snarking to HRC's final defeat.
April 12, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your argument is so three weeks ago. The dialogue on this site left that discussion behind at Easter dinner.
Your greatly mistaken to believe that Obama has the nomination locked up. His lead is very narrow and likely to become narrower as the primaries continue. It is very possible that Hillary could actually take the lead in the popular vote.
What is clear at this point is that neither candidate has united the party behind them adequately to win the nomination in the primaries.
So the question is: Who can make the most persuasive case to the super delegates:
April 11, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
While Merlot's post has any number of rhetorical flaws, it's hard to deny that this nomination is, for all practical purposes, over. I think even dedicated Hillary supporters are feeling this way now. Is it possible that Clinton could turn it around and win? Sure. It's also possible that I'll get my own TV show in the fall. But the chain of events that would have to occur for Clinton to pull this off is, at this point, ridiculously implausible. It's why Obama's new campaign strategy appears to be "run out the clock". Not so inspiring, but absolutely effective.
April 11, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't be so pessimistic. Americans can't get enough of wisecracking babies.
April 11, 2008 3:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the chances of Hillary winning the nomination in the primaries is remote if not impossible, but I believe the same for Obama.
The only way one could know who was going to win the nomination is if you knew how the undeclared superdelegates were going to vote. I'll grant you that we know how some undeclareds will vote, Pelosi for example, but for most we won't know until they declare.
I know the common wisdom is that they will goto the delegate/vote leader, who everyone assumes will be one person, Obama.
But I believe that Obama will look a lot less desirable the day after PR votes than he does now.
In fact I think Obama will look a lot worse the day after Penn than he does now. I suspect that within the next week we will see a lot of 3am ads, as well as a 527 bringing up the wright issue in Western Penn.
Hillary doesn't need a 15-20 point victory to go on, but she does need it to change the narrative and I think that is why you will see the ad campaign I described above.
She will get called all kinds of names at sites like this, but I bet it works. I bet that come April 23rd, Obama is going to have to explain how with all the msm saying Clinton was toast and should quit, and him outspending her by 3 to 1 he still lost to Hillary Clinton by 15+ points.
Would that give the nomination to Hillary? Not that alone. But it's been my experience that running out the clock too early is a good way to get your ass kicked.
April 11, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that where I disagree with you is over the notion that the superdelegates are going to reach a decision collectively. It may be that the DNC will step in to consolidate opinion, but I think that's unlikely. Dean has already said that this is an individual decision for supers. And as long as that's the case, Hillary's going to have to win the undecided supers by well over a 2-to-1 margin.
Supers just aren't going to have a good enough reason to, en masse, tell the black candidate with more pledged delegates and more of the popular vote that they've decided to give the nomination to the white person instead. Maybe this would happen if we were the Republican party, but we're not.
April 11, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
dream on, dream on... it is call hallucinating... PA, NC, & IN give Obama a gain in popular votes, pledged delegates, and super delegates whilst HRC continuation renders a loss in the popular vote, the pledged delegates, and the super delegates. As the number demonstrate, current numbers taken in the context of Obama's continuing trajectoy upwards gives HRC 50.01 at best in PA (recall, she once had a 26 point lead). Obama wipes HRC off the map in NC. And the battle in IN is increasing looking on a PA redux. Add to that, the continuing trickle of super delegates to Obama each week while you remains in a net loss.
The last 6 weeks have demonstrated HRC's unfitness as president.
April 12, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
But no one likes a mean baby. Especially when he's had too much Guinness.
April 11, 2008 3:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is no such thing as "too much Guinness. That lad will grow up to be Brilliant!!!!
April 11, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very good post.
"Progressives need to understand that HRC is about making John Bush-McCain the next president. It is her only hope."
It is.
And it is also dangerously foolish.
If McCain won, who knows what could happen. A war with Iran, another Al Qaeda attack, economy could turn up, he might win reelection. Also his VP could become an heir apparent.
Meanwhile hillary would be viewed as a Nader type spoiler who ruined the Dems best year. She'd be hated.
April 11, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
You guys are in too much of a hurry. The cat's not in the bag until the cat's in the bag.
But both cats should have been working on McCain now for the last month. Then we could vote on which of them looked most likely to beat the opposition, not on which of them looked most likely to beat the other.
It's a shame Mrs. Clinton didn't choose that path. Mr. Obama has been treading it for a couple weeks now.
April 11, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mrs. Clinton's been trying it on for a few days, but her unfortunate circumstances keep getting in her way.
So says Lemmony Snikket, or whatever that reporter's name is.
April 11, 2008 11:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
The race goes on and if Obama is the nominee, let the 527's have Senator Empty Suit of breakfast, lunch and dinner with the Reverend Wright and the Senator' attendance at the anti-white church, his vacation in Pakistan which of course were conveniently left out of two books. Obama is an empty suit as this blog.
April 11, 2008 11:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
your avatar creeps me out dude.
What were you saying again? Obama's so busy kicking ass, I missed it...
April 12, 2008 1:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
We're not going to destroy McCain with Obama. Did you see the video yesterday? Anger and cynicism about basic human nature is the way GOP nominees win the White House, by the very nature of conservatism. Democrats win the White House by being positive, hopeful and having faith in human nature. Not through anger and arrogance which is what Obama displayed yesterday.
April 12, 2008 3:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
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