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Why?

Over the Hedge was predicting 9 points. Are you disagreeing with RJ?

I should point out that with 78% reporting, the current votes are 914,680 for Hillary and 764,284 for Obama. To a ridiculous level of precision, that's 8.96% for Hillary.

It'd be surreal if RJ ends up being that exact.

Okay, okay....+8 maybe.

BFD.

What is up with Chester County?

Good question. Extrapolating from Lancaster and Delaware counties, it wouldn't be surprising if that's slightly Obama territory, as well.

SO agreed. What's going on in Chester County???

Anyone?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24248232/

Latest on Chester that I can find.

And George Bush's tax cuts still offend my conscience, and I'm sure they offend yours.

Uh oh, now a 10 pt lead with 80% counted...gee, afer outspending 4:1 and having MSNBC beating up on HRC he can't win ONE SINGLE big state besides IL--his HOME state.

I want someone tough in the fall, someone that can deliver a knockout punch--sorry folks, that would be Hillary.

If she delivered a knockout punch, how come he's not only standing but ahead in money raised, delegates won, and popular vote? That's what we call a "love tap" where I'm from.

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Well I was predicting a 10-14 pt win so I'm a little disappointed, but glad nonetheless. By the night's end, I'm thinking she'll hold onto a 9-10 pt win.

That's not mind-blowing, but it's enough to shut the dissenters up and to keep this going into NC and IN. Latest NC polls show her down 9, whereas last week's polls showed her down 15+. After this win (following OH, TX, RI) I think it's safe to say Obama DOES NOT have the momentum and that she's built some: probably enough to win IN by 4-5 pts and keep NC within 5-8 pts.

Either way, this isn't over yet!

Unfortunately, it's probably not over, yet. I'm pretty sure she's going to stay in until Obama passes the 2,024 mark, which will require more super-delegates to get off the fence.

One state does not momentum make, however.

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Ahem....about that avatar. :)

I still don't think it'll go past the first vote. I waffle on whether or not she'll concede before the convention. If she doesn't, it'll be just for show.

Link to our wager, in case you've forgotten some of the details. Note, I say on or before the first vote. If it's decided on the first vote, I win the wager. :)

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True, but at this point she has won OH, TX, and PA. I don't think they'll have any trouble spinning these big state wins as momentum for her.

Also, I think it's important we all keep something in mind: Obama was going for the kill. He spent more money in PA than any other state (11+ million). Not only did he lose, he was decisively beaten. I recall reading last month opinions of whether he should go all out. Well, he has. And he's lost. So it's going to be harder to spin it as "just another loss in Clinton territory." He contested the state intensely.

He didn't go all out. He has $40 million cash on hand. Hillary went all out, and then some. It's just that "all out" for her was a lot less than "not all out" was for him. :)

Maybe Hillary can get some of those snow shovels back from Iowa that she spent so much money on.

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Again, to spend more in PA than ANY OTHER STATE, to spend a month blanketing the state with appearances and ads, is to go all out. Or at least, it is to put some serious effort in an attempt to win, whatever you'd like to call that.

Either way, Obama contested the state heavily and was squarely beaten.

Argh. Need I correct this once again? Obama won Texas!

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