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Hillary Clinton Fired from Watergate Work For Lies, Unethical Behavior

Well, this is interesting.  It seems Hillary Clinton was fired from her Watergate work because she was a liar.  If this is true, it really says a lot about the state of our media that this hasn’t seen the light of say until now.

Watergate-Era Judiciary Chief
of Staff: Hillary Clinton Fired For Lies, Unethical Behavior

By Dan Calabrese

As Hillary Clinton came under increasing scrutiny for her story about facing sniper fire in Bosnia, one question that arose was whether she has engaged in a pattern of lying.

The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.

Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.

Why?

Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

Read more

http://www.northstarwriters.com/dc163.htm


Comments (84)

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Good read...thanks.

I'm piggybacking because this is important.

This is bogus. As I posted on daily Kos: Obama doesn't need this to beat Hillary, and though I'm increasingly disenchanted with her, it's unseemly to pile on her when she's down. We (Obama supporters) can't afford to associate with this kind of crap.

Don't stop now.

This post is an excellent object lesson for those who care to consider their own more intemperate comments along a similar vein and with similar veracity.

Holy Fraudulent Legal Briefs, Batman!

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So I did a google news search for "Zeifman clinton watergate fired" and the only links that came up were for the Hillary Project and OpEdnews. A regular google search only brings up blogs, with your northstarwriters coming up third. The story is spurious and you obviously just want to draw readers to your rubbish site.

Her name wasn't "Clinton" then, it was Rodham.

One wonders if the diary really is available:

"Zeifman says he was urged by top committee members to keep a diary of everything that was happening. He did so, and still has the diary if anyone wants to check the veracity of his story. Certainly, he could not have known in 1974 that diary entries about a young lawyer named Hillary Rodham would be of interest to anyone 34 years later."

Zeifman has written on his site:

"During that period I kept a private diary of the behind the scenes congressional activities. My original tape recordings of the diary and other materials related to the Nixon impeachment provided the basis for my prior book Without Honor and are now available for inspection in the George Washington University Library."

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Presumably any articles that add credibility to this story would have the word "Clinton" in them too. This guy is selling a book. It would be helpful if he could produce a credible source to verify his claim rather than offering to produce a diary of his. I just wrote "1974, fired Hillary Rodham" on a piece of paper. Therefore, I have proof that I fired her in 1974. Btw, I don't like Clinton, but this is an identical post to one that appeared a few weeks ago in an attempt to draw people to northstarwriters.com.

Turns out that Jerry Zeifman keeps a blog at:

http://www.jzeifman.com/

He's published a book on the subject as well:

"Hillary's Pursuit of Power"

"Jerry Zeifman, a former counsel to the House Judiciary Committee for 17 years,
takes you to a behind the scenes account of Hillary Clinton, in a book based on
his personal experiences in dealing with her. In 1974, he had supervisory authority
of a staff that included Hillary Rodham – who was then engaged in a variety of self-
serving unethical practices in violation of House rules. In 1998, as consultant to a
member of the Judiciary Committee that impeached President Clinton, he gained
extensive personal insights into the unethical practices of Hillary Clinton in her White
House “West Wing” office.

A lifelong Democrat, Jerry Zeifman has concluded that Hillary Clinton is ethically
unfit to be either a Senator or President – and if she were to become President, the
last vestiges of the traditional moral authority of the party of Roosevelt, Truman and
Johnson will be destroyed. "

A digital version of the book may be purchased at Zeifman's site for $3.00 for those interested.

Here is a link to Zeifman's own site. It seems credible to me and reinforces the notions of Clinton's penchant for secrecy, desire to win, and dishonesty.

http://www.jzeifman.com/

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Thanks for posting the info. It's new to me. Why won't the MSM report this? They might.

Right now, though, the MSM is afraid. If they present a bias, they'll hear from millions of people almost instantly. They're not used to this.

Being held accountable forces the media to edge closer to objectivity.

Blog journalists who have time to delve deeper into an issue, or to raise an issue that's being ignored and unearth the facts are a sort of checks and balances on the MSM.

Spin is being called out for what it is; spin. Thanks to the Bush administration, "spinning" has become so blatantly obvious that
it's outright lying.

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Martians gathering on dark side of moon to abduct earth babies - why won't the MSM report? They must be scared.

It's an interesting story, and quite damaging if true, but it does seem that this would need confirmation by a more mainstream and reputable news source to be considered a real story. The lack of such coverage means that the mainstream news organizations either 1) don't know about this story or 2) have investigated and find it without merit. In the case of 2), unfortunately, they don't usually write a story just to say a story is without merit (unless they are the Washington Post). Perhaps you should send it to factcheck.org or someone similar and ask them to investigate.

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An article in a main stream newspaper isn't confirmation, confirmation requires evidence other than this person's say so. He does sound like a legitimate source and there should be coroberating evidence. Where is this legal brief she was supposed to have written? Someone should ask Hillary about his allegations.

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This has to be presumed false until proven true.

The timing and tone make it sound like one of those artful right-wing hit jobs.

Why did we never hear of this before?

What reason do we have to believe this source? How is it the Republican hit machine failed to turn this up when trying to destroy Hilary in the 1990s?

Even if the claim truly is--and I'd assume it's not--from a person who was once Hilary's boss, how do we know he wasn't embittered by, perhaps, seeking high appointment from Bill Clinton and getting turned down?

I'm for Obama, but we must be very wary of hatchet jobs on all our candidates, Hilary included. Presume Hilary innocent until evidence shows otherwise. And the evidence will have to come from credible sources such as colleagues who served with her on the Watergate committee and have direct experience of her performance then.


Thanks for taking the time to look deeper into this (actually a lot of you have).

I've read through the comments and have to agree, that perhaps this "report" is suspect.

I wish there was a way to 'update" the diary to include a more visible "warning" that this might, in fact be false.

I think my excitement at the details and what it might mean got the better of me on this one.

I should have looked a little further into the source.

My apologies.

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Thanks for your honesty.

It looks like Zeifman has been trying to get some attention for this since at least 1999, when this was addressed in the New York Post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925684/posts

It seems to have circulated around the right-wing blogs since then. Hi sbook on the subject was reviewed in the National Review in Fbruary, so it looks like it might be picking up some traction:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925684/posts

My guess is that the GOP is keeping this card up their sleeve for later use, if necessary.

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Hillary was running or preparing to run for the Senate in 1999. Indeed, if you walk into borders today, I'm sure you'll see a bunch of books about her right up front. There are a lot of people trying to cash in on her. Maybe some of them have legitimate stories to tell, but you should be skeptical whenever someone is trying to sell you something.

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Freepers. National Review. Newsmax. If they believe these charges, we have every reason to doubt them.

What's needed is for mainstream media to interview Hilary's colleagues from the Watergate Committee.

Remember Nixon had friends on the Watergate Committee, including Fred Thompson, who leaked information to the White House. Sources who served on the Watergate Committee are not necessarily reliable.

The searches that might be most profitable would identify members of the committee staff and track them down for first-hand accounts.

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Thanks for the daily dose of Republican horseshit.

Here are two more interesting pieces from the alternate-universe files of Dan Calabrese, a conservative newspaper "columnist" (per Wikipedia).

Saddam’s Terror Ties, and the New York Times’ Lies

and

Hey, AP: The Goal In Iraq Is to Win, Not to Leave

Good to have Calabrese's name for future reference. Thanks again!

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My post is a response to the OP by thejoshuablog (not to lifelongdem's comment).

Btw, now I'm curious joshuablog: Are you really an Obama supporter or a Republican troll infecting the threads at TPM?

I vote troll.

Get out troll.

Or I will chase you out with a big spatula and a rubber hose.

We get Republican right-wing anti-Obama bullshit all day long from gotalife and dembillc but should someone post an anti-Hillary link from a Freeper site suddenly feathers get ruffled?

How about we Dems agree not to do Republican's work for them and try to have some reasonable level of discourse?

But until the Hillary trolls stop with their stopobama.com crap, expect to see more anti-Hillary crap too.

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but should someone post an anti-Hillary link from a Freeper site suddenly feathers get ruffled?

Um, YES!

Good.

Now that this got your attention, and gotalife and dembillc have managed to stir up Obama supporters with their trolling, perhaps we can all realize that we're Democrats and the REAL adversary is McCain and the GOP.

Both sides are very capable of spreading maliciousness about one another, there's no lack of material to chop one another down.

If we made an effort to keep it positive and face the GOP with a united front (whoever wins the nod), there's NO way McCain wins.

Thanks for taking the time to look deeper into this (actually a lot of you have).

I've read through the comments and have to agree, that perhaps this "report" is suspect.

I wish there was a way to 'update" the diary to include a more visible "warning" that this might, in fact be false.

I think my excitement at the details and what it might mean got the better of me on this one.

I should have looked a little further into the source.

My apologies.

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I wish there was a way to 'update" the diary to include a more visible "warning" that this might, in fact be false.

You already did update the diary. You deleted early comments from the thread, including one from lifelongdem.

Funny, but you didn't add a warning that this story is false when you updated your blog.

Nor have you added any such warning within the first few comments, which requires absolutely no "edit" or "update" function at all. Even though you know better now.

That's because you have no intention of adding a warning.

Only a Republican troll would insist on spreading this story.

LOL.

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More impropriety:

Hillary attacked 12-year-old's credibility in rape case

newsday.com — But there is a little-known episode Clinton doesn't mention in her standard campaign speech in which those two principles collided. In 1975, a 27-year-old Hillary Rodham, acting as a court-appointed attorney, attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old girl in mounting an aggressive defense for an indigent client accused of rape in Arkansas...

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-usark245589997feb24,0,2934440,print.story

I'm an Obama supporter who currently despises Clinton, but that story actually makes me think more favorably of her.

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Dude, your an independent. Come back when you decide who you are. In the meantime, let the grown ups decide who you are going to vote for in the fall.

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Smells a little fishy but only because of the source/timing. The accusations that Hillary's a self serving liar who would subvert the Constitution in order to further her agenda could only be shocking to those who either don't pay attention or don't care about such trival matters as the rule of law (getalife?)

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Check out Calabrese's other columns.

One attacks Obama and Hilary for aiding terrorists.

Another endorses McCain.

Don't be taken in.

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Oh, yes ... folks should definitely "proceed with caution" on this one.

Zeifman's own blog is quite, um, sketchy. The most resent post being a 'dream interview' with Eleanor Roosevelt attacking the Black Caucus and including sentences like this one: "If Senator Baraka were to advocated it
today he would alienate so many special interest groups that he would probably lose
the Democratic nomination."

That's not to say that he didn't hold the position he says or even that his account may not be true (although why all of the anti-Hillary folks over the years wouldn't have gotten it is a huge mystery?), but based on Zeifman's current statements, it would really require some credible corroboration from more **currently**-reliable source.

If Obama were using a kitchen-sink strategy, something like this would be dandy ..... but THANK GOD, he's not. No one, even Hillary, should be hit with accusations like this unless they appear to be valid.

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This stuff is pointless. We do not need to go back when she was a very young person. Who knows what happened. Let us stick to the present.

We know that she is a habitual liar. Her Fairy Tale about her being the death defying Heroine of Tuzla, who fended of deadly snipers is all the proof we need. Of course we all know that she always hated NAFTA, and she despised the Puppet Master of The Right Wing Conspiracy, and Rupert Murdoch, Right. Well we do believe her on those claims, don't we!

No need to try and gild the lily with ancient rumors.

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So saying

" I was never present when he uttered that language"

Not a lie?

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This whole thread is either authored by a Republican troll purporting to be an Obama supporter or by an Obama supporter duped by the Republican hit machine.

It's the latter.

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Right, Dan.

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I choose TROLL.

Like my choosing this Dan Calabrese as a valid source, you'd be wrong too.

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What's kinda funny is that there is all of this information out there about the Clintons. Does anyone believe, based on the behavior that we have all seen, that this would NOT be true? I call a spade a spade and everything I have seen with my own eyes is proof enough for me. All character issues with the Clintons. Its difficult to be a whistle blower, usually they get demoted and discredited trying to tell the truth! It happens daily in Washington.

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This is totally biased. One of you guys or gals who've been around here a while, shut this down or something please. It's not helping us newbies.

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In 1973 and 1974, Senator Kennedy and Professor Marshall supposedly used their clout to position and control Ms. Rodham on the committee staff? She did what they wanted, and she knows it?

1n 2008, Senator Kennedy and most of his clan feel free to come out against Senator Clinton?

I don't think those pieces go in the same conspiracy.

I would be glad to see the candidate's record in her Watergate work checked out, but I don't think this source counts as providing that vetting.

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No offense to Sen. Kennedy but in 73 he was hitting the sauce pretty hard still.

I agree with most people.

I have asked TPM to delete the diary since I don't have that power to do it on my own:

Hey TPM:

I should have looked into the author of this article a little further than I did, and as many of the commenter have pointed out, this story looks to be a right-wing fantasy which has no basis in reality. I made a mistake in posting it.

I’m not a fan of HRC, but the truth should be what takes her down.

Any chance you can delete this diary?

Again, my apologies.

I didn't do my homework on this one.

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I didn't do my homework on this one.

Yes you did. You wrote the original.

If it posts like a troll, and acts like a troll, guess what? It's a troll.

Oh, honey. Up your meds.

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I like your bio, too, Dan. It's a classified ad.

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Plus, there's no homework to do: Dan Calabrese has a John McCain ad on his site. If you look at the titles of his other posts, they are obviously wingnut. You don't even have to read any of his other pieces to figure that out.

Since Calabrese and Zeifman are only referenced on right-wing sites, they are being spread to liberal sites by Republicans. So, thanks for being a carrier to TPM, thejoshuablog, and consider yourself busted, but wiser.

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Ok,
But how refreshing is it to see Obama supporters, en masse, NOT jump on a story about Clinton?!

I haven't seen the same restraint or reason from many fervent Clinton supporters, who seem to jump on the slightest hint of something bad about Obama.

Bravo guys! Taking the high road is certainly the intellegent thing to do.

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Alas, you spoke too soon. See upthread and downthread, especially the supplementary research and extensive Zeifman quotes courtesy of the exemplary tag team of astral66 and Chris Brown.

Thanks thejoshuablog for being honest about this.

Now if only certain Clinton boosters would be honest about those lists of "OBAMA LIES" and other crap they cut 'n' paste from journalistically dubious sites.

Well, unlike Miss Hillary, I don't think admitting a mistake is a sign of weakness. ;-)

Not saying what's really on my mind to unhinged o ones on here is much harder!

Thanks, Bat.

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Interesting. Some of the early comments are now missing. I guess you figured out how to delete incriminating ones. Good for you, Dan!

It's on Daily Kos Right now. I linked over to it from there originally.

The second diary of the day is still on the main dairy list.

Like I said, I should have dug further.

You could digg a little deeper yourself with just a few clicks to know I'm who I say I am.

But you'd have to get your self righteous head out of your own lazy ass and I know that would mean proving yourself wrong.

So, here's the most recent story on DK. The other one, the one I actaully used the link to go to the story, was from earlier in the day. I'm not wasting time finding it for you.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/1/16471/83829/739/488432

You add a whole new dimension to the word putz.

;-)

Don't choke on your theory.

;-)

Actually, it was easier to find than I thought it would be:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/1/12146/80206

Unlike Hillary, acknowledging I made a mistake isn't a sign of weakness.

Can you say the same thing?

The veracity of the Zeifman claims was taken up by Ron Rosenbaum in his Slate.com piece, "Hillary I vs. Hillary II: Richard Nixon returns from the grave to haunt Clinton and remind us of the costs of unresolved history."

http://www.slate.com/id/2184373/

It's an interesting discussion of Nixon, the legacy of JFK, and circumstances surrounding Watergate.

Joshuablog, don't let the berating stress you. It's intellectually honest to realize you made a mistake, and reasonable people on the internet, especially a site like this, assume good faith.

You could have apologized like Hillary did for Bill's South Carolina comments, and (after waiting over a month) said, you were sorry if anyone was offended. This would clearly win over your chief beraters, Hillarystyle.

{big grin} Thanks articleman!

Usually real trolls are the first to call others out as being a troll.

I should know better than to engage idiots like readytoblowagasket, esp. since they have almost no online history under that name.

That leads me to believe it's a new identity.

And a new identity makes me thinks he/she changes identities often, becuase for someone with such a big mouth, they aren't new to this.

:-)

I dont understand why people cant see you just made a mistake. It happens. Good grief, people give it a rest.

I guess people see what they want to see, which is pretty much like I did when I saw this "damning" piece and my excitement blinded me to not looking at the source more closely.

The difference some can't acknowledge when they're wrong. I have no problem with that.

Thanks for your understanding!

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I too am very impressed with the level of discourse on this thread. Makes me feel even better that I am an Obama supporter.

I must admit, though, that first hearing this story, as skeptical as I was about it, I did think --"Well maybe that explains why Hillary left Washington right after Watergate to go marry Bill in Arkansas."

Joshblog, It's an interesting story and one that's received a much more focused discussion over at Kos. It also provides some basic information about one of the earliest stages of HRC's career. I see no reason why it shouldn't be discussed and analyzed. Your intial post could have been more objective, but otherwise it's a legitimate topic.

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Give it up. It's not real. We get that now. Time to move on.

Newsday has an excellent article up today on HRC and the Watergate committee:

"During Watergate probe, a 'star' on the rise"

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-uswate0302,0,4608515,full.story

It provides some interesting comments on her work ethic and character from some of the people that worked with her at the time. Some great quotes, too.

John Labovitz is quoted in the Newsday article from March 2:

"Nowadays, a lot of what we did would be done with a computer," says John Labovitz, who researched constitutional issues for the committee. "But back then it was all collected on white index cards ... You had to be objective, not to color the facts, and her job was to reconcile all those index cards into "proposed statements for inclusion" that would be put in binders for the committee members. She had a supervisory role."

He's the one that Zeifman mentions:

"John Labovitz apologized to me for the fact that months ago he and Hillary had lied to me [to conceal rules changes and dilatory tactics.] Labovitz said, "That came from Yale." I said, "You mean Burke Marshall [Senator Ted Kennedy's chief political strategist, with whom Hillary regularly consulted in violation of House rules.] Labovitz said, "Yes." His apology was significant to me, not because it was a revelation but because of his contrition."

I would imagine that Labovitz would be the one to talk to about whether Zeifman's account is credible.

And then there is this consistency. Though Newsday indicates "Woods and Doar had instructed her to draft a memo" to which Zeifman refers.

From the Newsday article

Woods and Doar had instructed her to draft a memo restricting the number of witnesses who testified at the televised committee hearings to just a handful. More importantly, she was told to add a section barring Nixon's lawyers from cross-examining witnesses.

Rodham's memo caused an immediate firestorm among the committee's Republicans and even some Democrats. Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino, a New Jersey Democrat who was acutely sensitive to charges he was conducting a witch hunt, rejected it almost immediately. Rodham and Woods defended the rules before one of Rodino's subcommittees but were instructed to re-write them.

"The committee was damn clear that the president was going to have the right to cross-examine," recalls Woods, still smarting over the slight three decades later. "They wound up giving Nixon and [his defense lawyer James] St. Clair complete access to everything we were doing."

From Zeifman

After hiring Hillary, Doar assigned her to confer with me regarding rules of procedure for the impeachment inquiry. At my first meeting with her I told her that Judiciary Committee Chairman Peter Rodino, House Speaker Carl Albert, Majority Leader “Tip” O'Neill, Parliamentarian Lou Deschler and I had previously all agreed that we should rely only on the then existing House Rules, and not advocate any changes. I also quoted Tip O'Neill's statement that: "To try to change the rules now would be politically divisive. It would be like trying to change the traditional rules of baseball before a World Series."

Hillary assured me that she had not drafted, and would not advocate, any such rules changes. However, as documented in my personal diary, I soon learned that she had lied. She had already drafted changes, and continued to advocate them. In one written legal memorandum, she advocated denying President Nixon
representation by counsel. In so doing she simply ignored the fact that in the committee’s then most recent prior impeachment proceeding, the committee had afforded the right to counsel to Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas.

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WATERGATE STORY ABOUT HILLARY'S UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR DURING INVESTIGATION NOT BOGUS!!

PUBLISHED IN THE TIMES:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1719879.ece

CARL BERSTEIN, the reporter who BROKE the Watergate Scandal, has published a 640page biography of Hillary alledging unethical behavior on her part during the Watergate investigation.

HILLARY-WATERGATE NOT BOGUS!!!

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Wow. This post is really a troll magnet.

Bernstein's book came out a year ago, idiot. Keep up.

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I think J. Zeifman, is more accuratly describing the current Geo Bush. Don't know if he "misspoke" or misremembered.

I also agree that he is a Ann Colter wannabee, but doubt his book will sell.

The termites are coming out of the woodwork.

P.s there are no Obama lies, just misrememberances.

Based on the evidence:

1) Zeifman has been pushing this story since 1996 and no one has paid much attention to it, although he has published two books and several articles on the subject.

2) HRC wasn't fired. Nixon resigned before before being impeached and the House Judiciary Committee's Impeachment Inquiry staff that she served on never got to present its material.

3} John Labovitz, the staff member who Zeifman claims to have made an apology for not keeping Zeifman (their supervisor) in the loop of what was going on, has yet to comment on Zeifman's claims.

4) Even if Zeifman had presented his ethics complaint to the DC Bar, HRC couldn't have been disbarred because she wasn't a member; she had failed the DC bar exam and never told anyone, at least not until she admitted it in her 2003 biography.

Sinbad was at the the Watergate trial, let's ask him.

Get thee to a therpist.

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FYI: Here's a 1996 article from the Washington Post describing an earlier book from Zeifman:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/reviews/matthewdallek.htm

WITHOUT HONOR
In 1973 Jerry Zeifman, chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee, decided to keep a diary of the "extraordinary events" surrounding the impeachment of President Nixon. Now, Zeifman draws on that diary to give us Without Honor: Crimes of Camelot and the Impeachment of President Nixon, in which he accuses government officials of obstructing the impeachment inquiry. Their reason? Not any sympathy for the besieged Richard Nixon, but a desire to protect the reputation of John Kennedy. Zeifman's book will surely excite conspiracy buffs on the lookout for sinister coverups in high places. But those wary of such unsubstantiated theories (myself included) will find Zeifman's book an unconvincing, if imaginative, tale of intrigue.

Zeifman's theory goes something like this: John Doar, Hillary Rodham, Bernard Nussbaum and other Kennedy loyalists investigating Nixon obstruct his impeachment "to cover up malfeasance in high office throughout the Cold War." The scheming starlets are abetted by Peter Rodino, a weak, corrupt chairman of the House Judiciary Committee who is afraid that Nixon might expose his own Mafia ties. Rounding out the list of conspirators is Burke Marshall, Robert Kennedy's assistant attorney general, who orchestrates the bogus investigation in the hopes of keeping Nixon in office, which will, he believes, help Ted Kennedy win the White House. Using a variety of dubious legal strategies -- still with me? -- Doar and his co-conspirators do everything they can to avoid putting the president on trial, a strategy, they hope, that will prevent Nixon's lawyers from revealing the "crimes of Camelot."

The lack of evidence makes this theory hard to swallow. Zeifman's most reliable source -- his diary -- contains few revelations and seems little more than a chronicle of his suspicions and speculations. The book's jacket cover, which promises readers "truths even more startling than those brought out in Oliver Stone's movies 'Nixon' and 'JFK', " does not help matters. Perhaps the book's publicists forgot that "Nixon" and "JFK" were, after all, only Hollywood movies.

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