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Gov Easley (so-called Democrat) of NC insults gay voters... is HRC as big a bigot as Gov Easely?
In yesterday's endoresement of HRC by Gov Easely, Mr. Easley enaged in insulting gay voters and pandering to the bigoted wing of the south...
See this http://youtube.com/watch?v=rHSGF3TDljw
at 4:50...
I've tried 3x over the past 4 hrs to get this posted... and yet. Josh has censored this website....
HRC, like Mike Easley are southern bigots....
Hillary is the candidate of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" which puts many veterans outside of the official Washington...
Bill Clinton promoted "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
I have one question, why would any self-respecting American gay person vote for HRC... Billary is nothing more than bigotry...
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Comments (13)
THE SELF RESPECTING GAYS WOULD
The self loathing ones will vote their white guilt.
(insert Gore Vidal guffaw here)
April 30, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
You seem to think that all white people supporting Obama is voting for him because of "white guilt." If that were the case, we would have had a black president in the 1980s but we don't. I happen to support Obama because he's the best candidate out there. You can blame it on my "white guilt" but you're really doing Obama's talent, integrity and intelligence an injustice when you attribute his success only to "white guilt."
April 30, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama Snubs Gays in S.F. And Worships at Gay Bashing Church
Barack pays lip service to their faces and is happy to take their money but when he's asked to take a photograph with the straight mayor of San Francisco who dared allow them to marry he runs away. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/05/BAM5US1B5.DTL&hw=obama+fundraiser+gavin&sn=004&sc=581
And do we even need to discuss Rev. Wright's stance on gays. http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/19/this-bigoted-speech-provided-the-origin-of-obamas-audacity-of-hope/
May 1, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good trolls don't capitalize a sentence unless it's meant in a purely satrical context. I rate RenStimpy a 3/10.
April 30, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
merlot:
Please be careful when using acronyms in gay-related stories! I nearly fainted when I read your headline!
HRC, while you intended it to mean Hillary, also stands for the HUMA RIGHTS CAMPAIGN, the largest gay and lesbian advocacy group in the world. And they have come down foursquare against Easley's word choice.
YOur headline makes it look like this group backs Easley.
So always spell out Hillary's name when it might be possible to mistake her for the NON-HUMAN HRC.
Thanks!
April 30, 2008 3:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
point well taken
April 30, 2008 8:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not all Southerners are bigots. Easley's comment offended a LOT of people in NC. But before you go and caricature the entire state or region, please consider the fact that you're not helping your cause or your candidate by stereotyping "southerners" as a monoculture.
As a North Carolinian, I'd just like to point out that 1) most of us *are* supporting Obama, 2) we're the only state in our region to defeat a "defense of marriage" law, 3) we've got a very active lgbt base and have been working hard to increase representation at all levels of government. In Chapel Hill, where I live, we have a gay council member, and our neighbor Carrboro had an extremely popular gay mayor who has since become one of our county commissioners.
On the broader state level, we've been working hard to get Jim Neal through the primary so that he can take on Elizabeth Dole in the fall. It's Chuck Schumer - the NY Senator who heads the DSCC - who decided that "a gay man can't win in NC," *not* the voters themselves. The full force of the Dem Party machinery, DLC branch, has been mobilized on behalf of Neal's opponent Kay Hagan. That has nothing to do with "Southern bigots." But it has everything to do with other people's perceptions of "Southern bigotry."
There are homophobes everywhere. Easley is a tool. He should be held accountable for his statement, absolutely. But his endorsement already marks a departure from the movement of the voters of NC, who are largely supportive of Obama. There is no reason to paint us all with his brush.
April 30, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, there are homophobes everywhere. I should have simply said that Easley's (and hence, Hillary's) message was directed at homophobes everywhere -- and her demographics certainly suggest this is the case.
April 30, 2008 8:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. I just have a general policy against answering negative stereotypes with negative stereotypes, or hate-speech in one form with hate-speech in another. I don't think you were really doing that - at least not deliberately - and I certainly don't live up to my own ideals all the time. I get angry, and in the heat of the moment say things that I regret. Or I make comments that I don't know are offensive till someone points it out.
It's just that it's entirely possible that Easley was doing the same thing. He probably doesn't immediately get why "pansy" is problematic. I don't like that, and I don't think that lets him off the hook. But, having myself referred to the Governor in many not-nice terms today (I think I probably called him a "tool" in print at least a dozen times), I've now calmed down enough to realize that I'm not helping to put forth a solid argument for why what he said is the problem.
I don't know, in this medium especially, how to balance the righteous indignation against what can too easily turn into vitriol. But I feel like there has to be a way. This is obviously more about me than you, so I'm sorry for going on and on. I just get tired of having people assume that all X people are Y, and all A people are B, but then getting really offended when someone suggests that all the L's are so M. So then they respond by calling all the E's f'ing G's, and no one gets anywhere, you know?
May 1, 2008 12:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I cannot give him the benefit of the doubt. He and Hillary both knew what they were doing. The perpared remarks would have been written by Easley's speech writers (and believe me, they know "pansy" is an insult), and then cleared by him and then, finally, reworked by Hillary's campaign.
May 1, 2008 9:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Merlot, don't think you've been keeping up with the news. Yes, Easley's "pansy" statement was horrible and bigoted, but Senator Clinton is the only candidate who has come out in full support of gay marriage.
April 30, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is not true... Hillary opposes gay marriage and has been a enthusiastic suppert of DOMA.
April 30, 2008 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
What stupid assholes people can be with Obama Fever ..... if you remember DontaskDontell was a compromise that improved the situation from GetheFuckOut which was in force before Clinton bravely attempted to end discrimination as he promised in his election. Conservative Democrats stabbed him in the back .... (Sam Nunn) as you recall. And that makes Hillary a bigot exactly HOW?
April 30, 2008 11:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
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