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Crabs in the Barrel

Ever heard the crab-in-the-barrel syndrome?  Put a bunch of crabs in a barrel.  As one draws closer to the top of his barrel, nearing his escape, one of the other crabs would reach up and pull his fellow crab back down.  Another one goes up, another one comes down.  This process continues until someone rescues all of them, or they die in the barrel.

For this reason, I'm done with Jeremiah Wright.  Barack Obama should be, too.

As an active Obama supporter and volunteer, I have worked diligently to further the campaign of the only presidential candidate in my nearly 33 years that has echoed my views on policy and inspired me as a Christian, a Black man, and an American citizen.  I have seen his campaign withstand the subtle (Bill Clinton) and not so subtle (Geraldine Ferraro) racial subtexts that the Clinton camp has repeatedly introduced into public discussion.  I've seen the GOP come at him, branding him at various times a Muslim, a terrorist sympathizer, a racist, a Marxist and of course, an affirmative action case.  These are things many of us expected.

We never saw Jeremiah Wright coming.

The power of his voice, skewered and sliced through various technologies and third-person interpretations, became an Sisyphean boulder for Obama and his campaign.  No matter how many times he distanced himself, or repudiated (and denounced and rejected) his former pastor's comments, he found himself back at square one because Obama couldn't find it in himself to do the "honorable" thing and disown completely the man who'd helped lead him to Christ. 

As a Christian who grew up in the United Church of Christ, the same majority-White denomination that Wright's Trinity church shares - to say nothing of a Black man who simply grew up in both urban and suburban settings - I am familiar with many of the arguments that Wright proposed.  Many a time have I had conversations that centered around the notion of conspiracies against African-Americans, mostly centering around crack, housing developments, politics and AIDS.  Whether those arguments emerge from the church or from the barbershop, none are unanimously agreed upon.   Quite frankly, many are dismissed outright, regardless of how many low-budget conspiracy documentaries are screened as you wait for your high-top fade.  (My adolescence was in the late '80s - cut me some slack.)

Likewise, the theories that Wright espouses at the pulpit aren't necessarily accepted as fact by his church audience.  But when I first heard his soundbites, I was reminded of the fact that there are still many people in Black communities across America who remember the fact that the U.S. government used Black men as guinea pigs as recently as 1972.  If you haven't heard, look up something called the Tuskeegee Experiments.

So what many would love to dismiss as paranoia is in fact based in the fear of what has passed coming to manifest again.  I understand Jeremiah Wright.  But as we all have learned in the last several weeks, his views do not exist in a vacuum.  And just because one might agree that he speaks some truth unto power (as well as some trash), it doesn't mean that that truth is simply accepted as such.  While that may seem obvious, today provided the proof that Wright:

a) thinks that his words are simply that, and doesn't yet understand how he undermines Obama

or, more likely in my opinion,

b) he fully understands what he's accomplishing with this PR tour of his: in a remarkably selfish act, he's using his moment in the public spotlight to sabotage Obama's candidacy at a crucial moment in this primary race, despite the fact Obama did not toss him aside during his own public crisis. 

In other words, he's one of the crabs in the barrel.  This expression has been used to describe African-Americans for decades, and it's one I learned early from my parents.  I saw it manifest first in high school, when my good grades, diction and personal achievements were met by derision by my fellow Black students as "acting white".  It wasn't just me - many of my Black friends went through the same thing, and many Black kids are going through it today.  The cycle continues, sadly, and it's sad to see a grown man perpetuating that same type of behavior - particularly to the first Black candidate to go this far in a presidential race. 

By repeating the same things, and dancing a jig while he does it (literally), Wright is showing no respect or consideration for the man who could've dissed him a la Bill Clinton and Sister Souljah.  He has to know how this PR tour would play out in the media, and how it would potentially affect Obama's campaign.  And from what I've seen today, it's been a complete negative for Obama and will continue to be. 

I can't tell you how many times I've talked to fellow voters around Philadelphia, a city that Obama won 65-35, and had people express concerns or anger about Wright and how that reflects on Obama.  Whether it was a middle-aged Italian guy from South Philly telling me Obama lost his vote over Wright, or African-Americans worrying openly about just that sort of thing happening, the Reverend's effect has been undeniable.  Yes, I know polling shows that it had a negligible effect on the outcome, but I also factor in what I've experienced.  Wright knows he's anathema to Obama's entire message of inclusion and understanding, and he doesn't care.

To break it down, here's what Wright is doing:  he's spitting in the face of the man who defended him, who said he was "like family" and did so without any undertones of private anger or resentment.  He did so unconditionally.  Now Wright is using his newfound notoriety to become the next racial demagogue, and who cares if it's at the expense of Obama?  If CNN, MSNBC and Fox News are booking me as the Black Pat Buchanan in a few years, then it's all worth it!

Obama extended his hand to help Wright above the fray.  Instead, Wright has pulled him back down into the barrel, making it even more difficult for the most talented politician we've seen in years to escape the politics of race, resentment and self-victimization that continue to condemn us all.


Comments (61)

Hm, for all the talk, I am still not convinced that Rev Wright is actually hurting Obama. I dare say that when he wins the next three races (the Guam caucus on May 3 and the IN and NC primaries on May 6) the fog that is clouding all of our brains will lift and we will see that Obama is doing just fine.

I pray that you're right, Greg. And thanks for being my first comment ever.

My pleasure. I always enjoy your posts.

By the way, Mr. Ellison, I should also thank you for the interesting and, for me, very informative post.

I agree Greg. I suspect by Wright using the platform, upon which he was thrust by vacuous media pundit, to expose his brilliance to the USA public he will have, in the end, helped Obama.

All depends on how Obama handles it. And I see that he's confronting it head-on, so that's good.

Thanks Greg.

I'm going to devote all the time I can to the phone banking effort for the next.


I agree with Greg. Of course.

(Let this be a maxim: Unless otherwise stated, Genghis agrees with Greg.)

The obverse of which is also true: unless otherwise stated, Greg agrees with Genghis (albeit in a more prosaic and less witty fashion than Genghis').

And the snake ate its own tail and regressed back to infinity/infancy, which was OK since it had a rattle in its mouth.

If you guys were twins you would never have been born. You go first. No, you go. Please, I insist.

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Good for you. Having watched his NAACP performance, I'm sick of seeing so many posts extolling Wright's virtues
Prior to that speech, I had concluded from the various possible reasons for his coming out now that the most likely was vanity/ego. Post that speech I'm pretty sure it's far more negative than that. This man is NOT stupid. When he shouted over again `Barack HUSSEIN Obama` he knew damned well this would be the most likely clip that would play ad nauseam on tv screens across the country. He knows how many uneducated people actually still believe Obama's a muslim.
He doesn't want Obama to win. His whole life - his church - is predicated on the thesis of blacks as victims and white supremacists. Obama winning would be a profound challenge to that.
If this pastor were the genuine champion of the black poor, what the hell is he doing having the church spend millions on a mansion in a white gated community accompanied with a 10m credit card? Why couldn't he have a pleasant, average house in a black or at least mixed neighbourhood and make sure those millions were funding the church's community programs? Or, given his insistence on acceptance of difference and how h talked of the differences in culture - music,dance etc, give those millions to funding a foundation that pursues just that - eg like the Daniel Perle foundation? (tolerance and respect for people of all cultures; unshaken belief in the effectiveness of education and communication; and the love of music, humor, and friendship)
The man's a charlatan.

i guess the "Arabic is not a religion" bit was lost on you.

as was the "love all god's people"

sigh..

Thanks for your perspective. I saw Moyers' show with Wright, and was quite impressed with him. I don't know if Wright is angry at Obama and is thus lashing out, or not. I can't read his mind and don't know enough about him to speculate on that.

I do think that he explained himself and his sermons very well. I felt it was easy to see why Obama was drawn to him and to his church. (I do agree with you that some of his comments about AIDS and so forth were over-the-top.)

I think it's appropriate for Wright to answer his critics, and I don't think that there is any better time for him to do so than right now.

I think that Wright and his comments will have very little impact on the race for the nomination and in the fall. Too many people are going to remember Obama's "Not This Time" and not be swayed from the important issues in this election: The War; The Economy; Civil Liberties; The Function of Government; and The Responsibilities of Citizenship; among others.

My $0.02.

Thanks again.

I thought so too after watching the Moyers interview. Not so much after watching this morning's thing. And I haven't seen the NAACP speech yet.

Either the people are ready to handle a grown up conversation on religion in America, and race, or they are not. Boy, can't wait to see what happens.

Great post!

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I think Wright is a real jumble of a lot of good and bad things. I've read his Audacity of Hope sermon and could see why Obama, or just about anybody, would be moved by it. I know his Church does a lot of good things. He's also proven his patriotism in a way that most of the chicken hawk gas bags never boethered with -- actually serving in the military. Still, he harbors a lot of resentment and anger and has not found a way of moving beyond those. Easier said than done, of course. While he's very willing to point out the failings of society in genreal, he seems unwilling to look at his own weaknesses and analyze some of his more outlandish claims in a calm and detached manner. But, his recent actions, using his new found celebrity to make a name for himself. I think Obama has managed to absorb the positive elements of Wright's message without buying into the anger and bitterness that the Rev. seems to have. This really is a case of the the pupil growing beyond the teacher, and perhaps this teacher doesn't like that much. Any way scientific, I think you have hit the mark here well. In this regard, I think Wright's ego has gotten in the way. Perhaps, like the rest of the culture warriors -- right and left -- he holds onto his anger and bitters -- feels comfortable in that place and resents somebody who wants to take him beyond it. It doesn't sound logical -- who wants to be angry and bitter -- but if that is waht you've grown used to, it can be hard to give up. In that sense, Obama really is a threat to a political status quo that is obsessed with wedge issues and polarization. In an odd way, Clinton, Wright, and the MSMS are all allies against Obama's new approach. Good thing the people are, for once, ahead of their leaders. We are the change we've been waiting for.

Good post. Wright is a catastrophe for Obama, and Wright knows what he's doing. There were so many startling remarks by Wright - "Barack HUSSEIN Obama", black/white brains, AIDS conspiracy, mocking LBJ, "I represent the black church" (more or less), white KKK robes, etc - from all three events, that he knew he was going to get substantial exposure. From the very beginning (February), I suspected this guy was a grandstander and a potential problem for Obama. Wright also knows the bind he's put Obama in, but he doesn't care. I have to agree with inspectormerlot: "He doesn't want Obama to win. His whole life - his church - is predicated on the thesis of blacks as victims and white supremacists. Obama winning would be a profound challenge to that."

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I'm Jewish, and months ago a Jewish friend told me his relatives were getting emails saying Obama was a secret Muslim and all the rest of it. That seems to have passed, whether because Jewish leaders issued statements, or Obama made a point of meeting with leaders in the Jewish community.
I wonder what the equivalent would be in this case. Would statements by Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Cornel West help? Better still, who are the top church leaders in the Black community? And what would they have to say, or whom would Obama have to address? Are there church leaders who could legitimately say Wright no longer represents the full Black Church experience in our country?

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He never has represented the whole of black folks!

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It's hard to overstate how depressing it has been watching the reemergence yesterday of Rev. Jeremiah Wright at the National Press Club.

It has been depressing to see the Obama campaign go through more "Wrightgate" in the wake of "Bittergate", and the loss of Pennsylvania. Obviously, this is the last thing in the world they needed.

It has been enraging to watch the news media obsess so deeply over the words of a man who is not even running for office, and then associate those words and positions with Sen. Obama—a man who has never uttered publicly any of those words or ideas, nor taken publicly any of those positions. It has been even more infuriating to hear a blowhard like Chris Matthews ask aloud "why won't the reverend just go away", then devote the entire hour of Hardball to picking over his every word. This, naturally, has been the reflex position of the entire political elite the last 24 hours.

It must be downright surreal for the Obama campaign to watch someone utterly out of their control pop off to the news media whatever he feels like saying, whenever he gets the urge, and then have the same media gallop over to Barack and demand an explanation.

More than anything, though, to have watched Barack Obama go to great pains several weeks ago to defend the character of the man he once called pastor, only to have Jeremiah Wright stab him in the back today with the following comments, was the most galling moment of all.

When Wright was asked today about his original remark that 9/11 was "America's chickens coming home to roost", rather than offer the sound foreign policy theory of blowback to explain, he used the Bible: "You cannot do terrorism on other people and expect it never to come back on you. Those are biblical principles, not Jeremiah Wright bombastic divisive principles."

On his feelings toward Farrakhan: "He is one of the most important voices in the 20th and 21st century; that's what I think about him. I said, as I said on Bill Moyers, when Louis Farrakhan speaks it's like E.F. Hutton speaks."

Not to stop there, he dragged all African-Americans down that road with him. "All black America listens." Really? So now Jeremiah Wright speaks for all black America?

On his theory that the U.S. Government gave AIDS to black people: "Have you read Horowitz's book 'Emerging Viruses: AIDS and Ebola'? Whoever wrote that question, have you read 'Medical Apartheid'? You've read it?" No, we haven't.

On the sincerity of Barack Obama's disowning of Wright's controversial remarks: "He didn't distance himself. He had to distance himself, because he's a politician..."

On his personal loyalty to Barack Obama: "If you get elected, November the 5th I'm coming after you, because you'll be representing a government whose policies grind under people."

I don't agree with the Washington Post's Dana Milbank, or the National Review, that this event may have doomed Obama's candidacy. I do believe, however, that it may have doomed his chances to win the Indiana primary—one that until today was essentially a dead heat. It also threatens to seriously tighten his popular vote margin in North Carolina.

I confess I don't know exactly where I stand on the near-unanimous media opinion that Obama's only escape from the newest controversy is to completely disavow Wright, once and for all.

I think there is a good point to be made that Wright's narcissistic rant today was a public betrayal of Obama, thereby providing a fair pretext for a disavowal. I believe there is an even stronger argument that since Wright has insinuated Obama is faking his distance from the controversial statements, this requires the senator to directly refute Wright, publicly and immediately. Obama certainly can't have anyone close to him—especially his former pastor—continue to give interviews telling everyone not to really believe Obama means what he says.

On the other hand, I get pretty nauseous when the media starts dictating to public figures whom they are and aren't allowed to associate with. Let's call it what it is: blackmail. The MSM is saying to Obama, "you can make this easier on yourself if you play by our rules, and cut Wright loose. Otherwise, we will hound you day in and day out with this until you drop out of the race." Not included in the threat is the obvious fact, of course, that nothing Obama says or does will ever shut the media up about Rev. Wright anyway. So, what's the point?

Also, wouldn't it look deeply political for Obama to kick Wright to the curb at the very moment the minister is causing him the most damage? And didn't Obama himself say "I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother"? You can just see the tabloid headline: "Obama Disses Wright; Granny Takes The Hint, Packs Her Bags".

I don't really know what Obama should do, though the thought of Barack having to cough up yet another mesmerizing "race" speech to get himself out of yet another jam certainly isn't appealing. I do however, have a question for Rev. Wright.

You're obviously an intelligent man, Reverend, who I surprisingly find a lot in common with ideologically, although I believe your leftist politics are of a more conspiratorial strain than my own. It is also obvious that you care passionately and profoundly about the African-American community you have dedicated your life to serving. With these two truths in mind, the obvious question surfaces:

Why are you knee-capping the first viable African-American presidential candidate in our nation's history?

Very good comment! I personally am utterly outraged by this whole "issue". Until I read TMM Cafe today I didn't realize the Wright was simply promoting his book. I can be as naive as anyone - I assumed he was on Bill Moyers show because Moyers felt he had some important things to say. I forgot that every single guest on a TV talk show is there to sell a book or a show, and that has no exceptions.

I'm increasingly angry with Obama for falling for this. While I don't know how he should have handled it, I'm also not claiming to be capable of being President.

If he is indeed doing this, it could be for several reasons. It could be ego or vanity. It could also be that his power is derived from a narrative which would be altered inexorably if Obama becomes President. Consider, should Obama go on to win the general election, who will be the biggest celebrity at TUCC? Who will be the biggest source of inspiration?

Consider also that Obama has been publicly contradicting Wright's perspective. His prescribed way forward is fundamentally different than the views espoused by Rev. Wright. If Obama proves to be successful, who then will the congregation be inclined to listen to?

I'm not saying that I think this is the absolute fact of the situation, but Wright is a man with a certain kind of power and power has a way of maintaining itself.

I also agree with Greg, Genghis and others that Wright may prove to not be much of a factor at all. He doesn't seem to have affected the PA primary and this next round of primaries will be particularly indicative of the impact that Wright may ultimately have.

Thanks for your perspective, Scientific. Great post. I, too, am over Wright, and I had defended him. But this self-promoting tour he's on, I guess it's like what happens with most of the pop media "stars" we see. The Runaway Bride, Spitzer's high class hooker, going all the way back to Amy Fisher -- they get their "15 minutes" and then start taking more and more (because more and more is thrown at them). More interviews, book deals, their own TV shows. Today's culture, sadly. I fear that the Rev. has decided to cash in as well.

Your avatar could be analyzed too, Scientific.

Check yourself.

Funny how you use the "crab-in-the-barrel" analogy as you bring down Wright to your "deficient because of different" definitions.

I never claimed Wright was "deficient" because he's different. Aside from you putting words in my mouth, I'm not trying to stop Wright or shut him up. I'm merely disagreeing with what I feel is his selfish act and one that undermines the efforts of, as he would say, one of his members to become the next President of the United States. Wright's free to say whatever he pleases.

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Yep! Gotcha back on this one!

Either people are ready to grow up, or they are not!!!!....What happens now, and what does that say about the people if they let this become an issue going forward. Obama is vetted he is who he is and has acted on his character, there is nothing there but high school attacks and conjecture. What do the people want now, change or the same its that plain and simple!!!

Insightful and interesting post. I agree with your points. The problem of Reverend Wright is not going away, ever. The immediate problem is the impact on North Carolina and Indiana. Should Senator Clinton win both, the nomination process will be in chaos. Even an Obama N.C win and a Clinton Indiana win will be a problem. Should Senator Obama win both the primary contest is essentially over. He needs to address this head on but he is in a box. He has said he can not renounce Reverend Wright but now he surely needs to distance himself more than he has. This is a opportunity for him to more forcefully address the issue.

Great post and congrats for the link from Andrew Sullivan's blog!

Thanks!

On one hand, I wish Rev. Wright would go away, because he's prolonging the nontroversy. On the other hand, there are several upsides to his news appearances. He's showing that he's not the madman and hater than Fox News had claimed. He's also demonstrating that Obama isn't in cahoots with him. And he's wearing out everyone's patience with this non-issue well before the general election campaign begins. I agree with Greg (as usual) that it's not at all clear that Wright is hurting Obama. And Obama is a very adept politician. I think that once again, he's gonna be able to spin this nonsense into electoral gold.

Here's hoping for a big win in NC and any kinda win in IN.

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Last night I could not sleep wondering exactly what Senator Obama could do to counter this seemingly bad news. I fretted and conjoured scenes where this would blot out this ugly stain. Then I came to my senses, and got out of my rumpled sheets (from all that tossing and turning) came here to the computer and made another donation. After that I scrolled around and found the fantastic video of the 82 year old caucasian lady who encouraged The Good Senator to keep lifting us higher and sent it to ten of my friends. That's how we counter the stain and gain victory in November 2008.
Thanks for doing all we are doing to make that the inevitable conclusion of our 'improbable quest.'

Obama got encouragement from Jean Weiss, 82, a Wilmington resident who told him not to go after Clinton and instead to ``bring us up higher.'' Bloomberg.com

Posted this on another blog but I want to reiterate this point.I'm one of those who feel that Wright helps rather than hurt Obama. The Republicans are going to run ads of his 30 second sound bites NO MATTER WHAT. By getting out and about, the public may get innoculated to his presence, and might even be bemused by his exasperating personality. They will also recognize the decent but misguided man in him, and at least they won't fear him.

He won't raise Obama's ratings, but he will at least help to beat back the impact of the Republican ads, neutralising that avenue of attack.

He is quick, witty and funny, that's going to go down well as a TV personality. Even Comical Ali, an "Iraqi enemy", was quite a hit - it was impossible to hate him. Wright'spresence will help diffuse the fears of the "unkmown" in Obama once and for all, and that's a good thing.

I think those crabs are just trying to get out themselves. They're not pulling the other crabs down on purpose. Maybe you're being a little hard on Wright.

I respectfully disagree. I think Wright knows precisely what his effect is, but I can see how one might come to your conclusion. Time will tell.

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Wright brought Obama to Jesus. He married the Obamas. He baptized their children. He was Obama's spiritual adviser. Obama called Wright "an important mentor". Wright is Obama's friend and inspiration. The title of one of Obama's books comes directly from Wright. Immediately before announcing his candidacy Obama prayed with Wright. Obama had intended that Wright be at his side when he announced his candidacy, but was persuaded that Wright was too controversial. Obama made Wright a member of his campaign's spiritual advisory council. Obama himself said he could no more disavow Wright than he could disavow his own grandmother. So Obama can not now disavow Wright. And even if he did, it would only be words.

But yours is a most remarkable post. Maybe Wright is pulling Obama back into the pot because Wright wants the message to remain the same. Maybe Wright fears being left behind. Maybe Wright can not let go of his anger. Maybe Wright can not imagine any form of black power other than guilt. Maybe Wright can not imagine any form of personal power other than his role as the noble and angry victim.

I believe another black politician will come along - one who is not inextricably entangled with Wright's attitudes and politics of the past. Such a man may well lead America into the post-racial era it so longs for. But that man is not Obama.

Maybe he finally realized he needed to start pandering. As an Obama supporter, I realize that this is damaging to his basic campaign theme and message, but it really came down to: pander or die.

I chose to give his campaign life.

Now whether this hurts him or help him overall is unclear, but what was clear was that Wright was an actively festering wound upon his campaign, and it was something he needed to remedy it pronto or risk losing everything.

Excellent post, Scientific. I'm glad you made is so personal: it gave me what I think is an insight into how you think, and by reflection, how some others may thing.

I disagree with you entirely about Wright. Some of what you wrote struck me as if you were apologising for him. He doesn't need to apologise. And you don't need to apologise for him.

I want Obama to win. I think Wright will help him do that. If it were necessary for Obama to disown Wright to win, I'd as soon he lost and look forward to another chance and better circumstances up the line.

I like the crab story because I see a different meaning in it. It doesn't apply just to Blacks. We are all of us the crabs.

Nice thoughtful post, Scientific. (I do love your name!)

Just as "Only Nixon Could Go To China", only posts with authenticity like yours can state the uncomfortably obvious.

It does remain to be seen, however, just what effect Wright will have. No matter what polls show, the privacy of a voting booth is the great mystery revealed.

Here's what I think happened:

Obama has been planning to cut all ties with the Rev. for a while now, and he decided to do it today. In preparation he went to Rev. Wright and told him:

"I am going to cut ties with you next week. You do what you gotta do to defend the church and yourself, and I'll do what I gotta do. See you on the other side."

It might have been just as simple as that. No collusion, just one sentence.

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a missouri voter: i love you for your enthusiam as an obama supporter myself, you put me to shame with your optimism; however, but i can't help but feel like the poster!

rev wright's selfishness shocks everyone! the only good thing about this is it highlights obama's altruism in my eyes-a boon!. obama had an opportunity to throw rev wright under the bus for political expediency and he didn't. instead, he took the high road. well, we are finding out that evil prevails in the short run...ask hrc, she will tell you all about it...now, let's hope evil doesn't do our man in b/f it is all said and done....

rev wright reminds me of one of those embarrassing uncles you love, but you cant take him out in public and you don't want him around when your intelligent friends are coming over. he is just that embarrassing! what a waste of a good education and brain cells! well, obama's embarrassment is out of the closet and nothing can make him go back in there. obama is going to have to deal with it.

to the poster--if rev wright's idiocy turned someone off and now they are claiming to be against obama, i have a newsflash for you and them--that person was never for obama and never will be for obama. any real consideration for obama would have been strengthened by rev wright's idiocy and selfishness period!!!!! obama is a victim in pretty much the same way my catholic priest duped me every sunday during mass.....you get the hint~

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oh gosh, i am at work and was unable to edit. the typing has multiple typos...do forgive me..
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a missouri voter: i love you for your enthusiam!as an obama supporter myself, you put me to shame with your optimism; however, i can't help but feel like the poster!

rev wright's selfishness shocks everyone! the only good thing about this is it highlights obama's altruism in my eyes-a boon!. obama had an opportunity to throw rev wright under the bus for political expediency and he didn't..... instead, he took the high road..... well, we are finding out that evil prevails in the short run...ask hrc, she will tell you all about it!...now, let's hope evil doesn't do our man in b/f it is all said and done....

rev wright reminds me of one of those embarrassing uncles you love, but you cant take him out in public and you don't want him around when your intelligent friends are coming over. he is just that embarrassing! what a waste of a good education and brain cells! well, obama's embarrassment is out of the closet and nothing can make him go back in there. obama is going to have to deal with it and pray it dies on its own.

to the poster--if rev wright's idiocy turned someone off and now they are claiming to be against obama, i have a newsflash for you and that voter--that person was never for obama and never will be for obama. any real consideration for obama would have been strengthened by rev wright's idiocy and selfishness not weakened!!!!! obama has gone above and beyond to show that he is a different person representing a more unified america. he allows hrc to pummell him in the name of the greater good. he refused to get rid of rev wright even though we demanded it of him.. applaud his positivity but condemn the likes of hrc and rev wrigh....

obama is a victim in pretty much the same way my catholic priest duped me every sunday during mass.....you get the hint~

Right on target, Scientific. Many other thoughtful posts.

Wright demonstrates the known but hardly mentioned political shift occurring with the Obama candidacy -- a shift not of race but of age. I imagine in my mind that Wright received numerous calls of sympathy from supporters, became reinforced that his cause was just, and decided to use the book tour to let the world know that he was not the kind of black man to take this abuse.

He has no clue how folks under thirty or forty find his old fashioned ways. There comes a time to let go, but his grip has been too tight too long to change.

This post was fantastic and spot on. I've been having chest pains on and off this whole campaign - it's unbelievably excruciating. I've been volunteering for Obama in the Northwest, though, and it really seems to me that America is busting out of its chrysalis or something - it's painful, exciting, and frightening all at once. I grew up in St. Louis, and lived there until 2004. I know about the "bitter" people, the hopeless and faithless people, stuck in the past, and it feels as though in moving here I stepped into a time machine to the happy future. People here are just braver or something, sick of old grudges and thinking that things can't change for the better.

It feels as though this is the direction that people all over the country are moving in, that they see Obama and it makes it tangible and reachable and they don't look back. I hope there are enough people who feel this way to elect the guy in time.

Because believe me, there's something very frightening about hope.

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Well Scientific, a part of being scientific is effort, time, and patientence; the scientific methods has not changed.

Your have well expressed an intragroup dynamic that is much the same among all groups, and most individuals recognize this phenomena. I have a near inherent distrust of religious folks, not religion; humans populate religious institutions. The mixture of faith and community in the relationship between Obama and Wright is of concern, something may have gone off the farm in this area.

My only qualm with Obama he speaks of faith a bit too much for my taste; he needs to talk with President Carter or go look at tapes of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen(from back in the day, as they say) for pointers on how to handle one's faith in public discourse. Wright's behavior is trying to understand, and regardless he has no place on the public stage at this point in time. Also, he fully knows he is being use by the MSM, and so on; I do agree his actions are selfish, but see some destructiveness for himself. Some have suggested a book deal is spurring his action, seems doubtful.

I do hope that whatever it is, the reason is not personal; the brew of faith, community and interpersonal relations can be caustic. Differing views are find but Wright is too old and experienced to have become snared in this madness. I do tend to agree with the view expressed in the first post,that this will blow over.

Scientific, you are rather perceptive.

The reason I went for Edwards instead of Obama at first was the faith thing - I agree and used to say he talked about it too much for my taste.

Obama... needs to... look at tapes of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen(from back in the day, as they say) for pointers on how to handle one's faith in public discourse.

Please, though, Sen Obama, do not succumb to the temptation to deliver your addresses while wearing that flouncy crimson cape.

Great post... thanks for sharing your insights and experiences.

Babe, I call those crabs "playa haters."

It's a common phenom

great post.

Indeed it is common. Thanks!

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Another reader here to say, yes, this is a great post. Thank you.

IF the 'Wright is clinging to victimhood' interpretation is correct, then, we might wonder whether Wright may just end up being more identified with another victimhood-prone one who lives in the past and is closer to his age.....to wit, Hillary Clinton.

Thanks for the kind words. I think he clings to it partly because he's a product of his times, but also because he's out of business, so to speak, if Obama's presidential victory helps erode that sense of self-victimization.

I mean, what will Jeremiah Wright do if he's not spending all day trying to save us?

Scientific,

I appreciate the perspective and insights you present in this post.

I have been shocked and saddened by some of the things Rev. Wright has said in the last few days. While I have sympathy for his anger and for his desire to defend his legacy from the smearing he's gotten due to Obama's campaign, I can't help but feel he is unfairly making Obama himself the target of his anger.

I am so sad for Barack, the Trinity United Church of Christ, the UCC, and...yes, for Rev. Wright.

The crabs in the barrel illustration you offer is hard for me to take because it seems so terribly petty. I don't know if you're right about this or not. My hope is that you're wrong, because it's almost too painful to accept.

We can only guess at Rev. Wright's motivation. Regardless of Wright's motives, your summary about the effects of his behavior is indisputable:

To break it down, here's what Wright is doing: he's spitting in the face of the man who defended him, who said he was "like family" and did so without any undertones of private anger or resentment. He did so unconditionally. Now Wright is using his newfound notoriety to become the next racial demagogue, and who cares if it's at the expense of Obama?

A few days ago, I heard Barack saying he believes in reconciliation and redemption. I hope that time, courage, and self-awareness will bring reconciliation and redemption to the relationship between these two men.

Thank you for the kind words.

It is a painful concept to accept, but it is real. I've experienced it during my childhood, and I have in my adult life. It's a sickness, and I hope we find a cure soon. Obama's election wouldn't cure it, but it might give hope to those trying to overcome it.

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I saw all of the broadcasts of Wright through the weekend. I thought his interview with Moyers was brilliant and nuanced, I thought his speech to the NAACP was inspired and humorous, and then I thought in his Monday speech, all the media attention had gone to his head and he began to spew, without any regard to how it might affect a vital decision facing the country right now - the selection of its next president. And because he did that, it must have dawned on Obama that he cared a great deal more for Rev. Wright than Rev. Wright cares for Obama or for the future of the country. He excuses it as being "answerable to God", but it was, at the very least, one of the most insensitive and selfish acts of an otherwise illustrious career. He must have thought for that moment he was running for president. I dunno.

Great blog, and thanks for posting it, Scientific. Regardless of what awaits us all, the dialogue is good to have, and long overdue.

louisev,

I had nearly the same experience as you did.

He excuses it as being "answerable to God", but it was, at the very least, one of the most insensitive and selfish acts of an otherwise illustrious career.

Indeed. I thought: what a luxury of conscience it must be to claim no responsibility for the damage he's doing and to claim he's only "answerable to God."

This is exactly the kind of arrogance I've seen in demagoguing religious leaders that completely undermines their credibility.

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Wright is nearly 67 years old and recently retired as pastor to a community for over three decade. He is well known is religious circles. Given the current day widespread retirements, it is not uncommon to know individuals who have difficulties adjusting to the cessation of their primary employment. Wright's circumstances has added additional burdens; unquestionably, he is accomplished but as all is flawed, which has been amply displayed of late.

I do have a clear bias concerning religious folks, in short too many confuse the life after with themselves in this life. Wright is not the exception nor are many from all ilks of life. Whatever the "black church" maybe it is known by ALL kind of folks nationwide, it secrets as well.

Scientific noted "racial subtexts" as used by the Team Clinton earlier this year, these are devices to evoke stereotypes and prejudices, which to the Clinton's demise many voters recognized. This phenomena will not go away, and it will grow to flaming glory in short order albeit temporarily; thus, I am not too concerned with "racial subtexts" and nearly welcome them. Other terms have been used as well that is far less descriptive: victimhood, self-victimization,post-racial era and(my own)the brew of faith, community and interpersonal relations can be caustic.

Do not want to get into the pros and cons of either but to suggest some thoughts on limitations of the use. The specific intent is to avoid "racial subtexts" as this is the underlying basis for this whole matter; the intent being to use Wright's words against him to evoke action from him(preferably spoken) that reflect negatively against Obama. In short to use you against yourself! This is what makes me mad as hell with and about Wright; Rule 1 Never, Never and Never give them an easy one, NEVER.

( I try like hell to avoid buzz words absent specific intent.)

Thanks for the post.

Your penultimate paragraph says it all, as far as I'm concerned. I was very angry yesterday. Today I'm anxious. I hope the tomorrows will only improve and Wright will be appropriately diminished.

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This is a terrific post. Found you via Andrew Sullivan.

I'm Black too, and what pisses me off about this is that it is TOTALLY CRABS IN A BARRELL.

And, it's so obvious A SETUP.

Shouldn't have had 3 events. I keep on trying to make this point. Having the 3 events is what steels me in my belief that this was done totally ON PURPOSE.

He knows that Obama had caught hell because he wouldn't distance himself from him. He KNEW THAT.

It would have been politically smart. It would have been politically convenient, but he didn't do it. Obama honored the best traditions of the Black Community, in honoring the Elders. He respected his Elders.

Wright set him up. Totally set him up.

There are folks that just don't ' know any better'. We all know them. We know their limitations, and don't expect anything too high from them.

But, he had THREE events. The Moyers Interview was full of substance and authenticity; the NAACP was full of substance and authenticity. He didn't have to sacrifice anything for either venue.

Which is why no one will be able to convince me that what he did at the NPC wasn't done ON PURPOSE.

He had done 2 events, and provided absolutely limited soundbites. Those that they DID play made those that played them look ridiculous.

So, he CHOSE to ' clown'. It was a knife to the heart for Obama. It was up close and personal.

But, Obama didn't see it coming.

I won't even get into the psychobabble of him losing his Black ' Father' for a second time; of being abandoned by him - once again. The second time for all the world to see.

Damn, that's messed up.

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