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Bitter: Email from an Attendee
Just received this from Myrna Melgar who was actually at the Obama Fundraiser:
As someone who was at that now famous fundraiser where Barack spoke about the bitterness folks in rural America feel, I have grown increasingly bewildered at the Clinton campaign's distortion of his words. The paragraph that has so spun out of control in the mainstream media was not a part of the speech itself, but rather a response to a question from someone in the audience (one of us!) who was planning on traveling to PA as a volunteer and was asking about what to expect. I listened to Barack's response and was stuck by his emotional intelligence, deep empathy and understanding of our fellow Americans. It was in no way condescending or demeaning. So that you don't think I am one of these so called elitist San Francisco rich who are out of touch with everyone else outside our bubble: I am a Latina, single mom, who immigrated to the Mission during the civil war in El Salvador. America has given me great opportunity, but I know struggle and discrimination. I have spent most of my career as a community and union organizer engaged in conflict with the "haves" and building leadership in poor communities of all colors to speak truth to power. Barack's message of hope and inclusion of us all speaks to me and mine: White, black, immigrant, Latino, Asian, male, female, gay, straight. Of course people are bitter and angry! One of the foundational principles of community organizing in America has been to tap into the discontent of people who are oppressed and turn it towards positive change, so that the emotinal energy that fuels the anger will instead be used to motivate people to action for positive progress and change. It is a radically different message that the Obama philosophy espouses: we can change the world ourselves - we need to work hard and turn our bitterness and anger towards the actual work of holding government accountable. It applies to poorpeople in rural appalachia as much as it applies to poor people in the inner city public housing projects in Chicago. I am writing to remind us to stay on message and stay focused. For the past four days, the media has been going nuts over that comment, including folks in the Democratic party who should know better but whose self interests is perhaps to protect the paradigm of division that has kept them at the top of the fragile balance between Republicans and centrist Democrats over the past 20 years. This moment in American history is about WE the people, and millions of us have elected Barack to speak for us now, because he speaks the truth. Enough is enough. Let's stay on message, and I have no doubt we're going to win this one. Here is an excellent piece by someone who lives in Western Pennsylvannia about this brouhaha: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/12/184747/973/89/485030 Peace to all.
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Comments (54)
No need to feel bewildered. The Clinton campaign is deliberately misconstruing everything they can, as they know that the window is closing fast, and they are becoming ever more desperate.
Clinton's Republican past is becoming more and more apparent in her chronic distortions.
It makes me nearly ill to admit the Republicans were right all along back int the 90's when they said that the Clintons had problems telling the truth.
Maybe she'd appoint better Supreme Court justices than McCain. Maybe. It's about the last possible rationale I can manage for holding my nose and checking Clinton's name in November should the near-impossible come to pass.
April 13, 2008 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's the smiles that keep us going. The bits of giggles and good cheer. I have dreams... of a rose, and then of falling down a long flight of steps.
April 13, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, is anyone encouraging this person to perhaps talk more publicly about this, i.e. outside of the lefty blogs? I mean, this email knocks a lot of preconceived notions over, including that everyone in the room was a big-money donor. Someone who was actually there could do a lot to bring this complex issue some more clarity.
April 13, 2008 1:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe Josh can get a hold of this. Turn it into an interview or something.
April 13, 2008 1:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would hope it's an interview that would catch the attention of the MSM. There's so much "silly season" going on right now that having someone who was actually there -- besides the HuffPo writer who got this all going in the first place -- talk about what happened and how she felt about it might just help.
Here's the root of all this: Obama was talking in the language of people who plan and analyze campaigns, and he was doing so behind closed doors in what was supposed to be a private function. None of what was said in that meeting was meant for the general public. Like two doctors discussing a patient, they talk to each other differently than they talk to the patient. Or any other professional talking to another. None of this means that Obama is saying one thing in private and another in public -- quite the opposite. He's been saying this in public for a long time, that things are so bad in this country that people are disillusioned, angry, even bitter.
Nothing wrong with the word bitter, by the way. It simply means: acrimonious: marked by strong resentment or cynicism.
April 13, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Unfortunately, they already have audio of his comments up on MSN with video to follow. No amount of selective perception and retention from Senator Obama's loyal fans is going to substitute for viewers' own impressions of the comments. He's just going to have to live with the fact that he talked about voters as if they were lab rats.
Putting my Clintonista hat on for a moment, I hope the video shows him sipping Merlot and smoking a big cigar.
April 13, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Billy, for once I agree with you in that we voters are not lab rats. We're not. Generally speaking, we're sheep. Baaaaaaaa!!!!!
April 13, 2008 7:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your "Clintonista hat" seems to be deeply embedded in your brain by this point, sir (or madam).
April 13, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your "Clintonista hat" seems to be deeply embedded in your brain by this point, sir (or madam).
April 13, 2008 10:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your "Clintonista hat" seems to be deeply embedded in your brain by this point, sir (or madam).
April 13, 2008 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
John, Thanks so much for this post. It is great to see some confirmation, from someone who was actually in the room, that this whole thing has been completely distorted and twisted by the HRC people and their minions in the MSM. And if you are in contact with Myrna, please thank her for linking to my Daily Kos piece (at the end of her email). I hope that this makes it way to Obama's people so that they know that he has touched on a profound undercurrent here in PA.
April 13, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Will do!
Will email her right now
April 13, 2008 2:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
astral's post at kos is pretty dead on.
its exactly the way a lot of people feel
I live among quite a few bitterly disgruntled individuals myself
April 13, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=1044
PA says Obama speaks truly.
April 13, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great e-mail. She's completely clueless about rural Midwesterners, but I'm sure she's dead-on about inner-city issues.
Oh well. Can't win 'em all.
April 13, 2008 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Beautiful - thank you so much. This is how out of touch Hillary is at this point - this is on the front page:
can you get much more Rovian? Remember the purple heart bandaids?
April 13, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not bitter.
April 13, 2008 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Neither are the special interests that are propping up Clinton's campaign, so they can go into the general with a 2-for-2.
April 13, 2008 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes they can!
April 13, 2008 6:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for this good post and thread and to Myrna Melgar for spreading the word. She is right that we should not get drawn into the overheated media thrashing. On the other hand, the context she provides is a very powerful counterbalance. Let's hope she will spread the word further.
ILreader
April 13, 2008 3:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Scranton newspaper endorsed Obama today even as she was out walking in the neighborhoods there. Called her a polarizing lightning rod.
April 13, 2008 4:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure Ms. Melgar heard exactly what she says she heard, unfortunately it doesn't sound that way to the "typical white person". What many Pennsylvanians heard was "we're bigots" and don't like people who don't look and act like us. No matter how you slice it, this is not particularly a good thing and cannot really be spun into more magic dust. This stinks and obviously Obama realized it or he wouldn't be apologizing. Just try to move on and hope for the best. You can pretty much count on the media saying Hillary overplayed it and that will end the tale.
April 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
John, thanks for posting this. I took the liberty of posting the email (crediting you) over at Kos, in the thread that's linked in Melgar's email. I also sent it to the Obama campaign. Like Liberal Elite, I'm hoping that both will receive wider attention.
April 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good e-mail. Clinton's distortion of this is just so freakin' cynical. She knows exactly what Obama was saying, and she'd be a lousy politician if she didn't understand it was accurate. She knows, but she's deliberately distorting it for the sake of a slow news cycle and some cheap political points. It doesn't speak well of her campaign, to say the least.
April 13, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
People are behaving like Obama said..they are so used to having lies thrown at them, what honesty has been seen in the last number of years...even from the Clintons, with a wagging finger and a "I did not have sex with that woman".
After a while you expect the lie, you do not believe a politician knows how to tell the truth...doubt layers everything you hear from those in DC. Obama knows that this happens..it is him that wants to break that chain. That will take alot of work, years after he gains the WhiteHouse he will be proving himself and his honor. I just hope that he will get that chance, to make the changes we so desperatly need.
April 13, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm not bitter.
Posted by readytoblowagasket
April 13, 2008 4:47 PM
Irony My Man; Irony!
Your name says the opposite. You and Hillary are well matched: She has now claimed that she is not a hunter, but she has gone hunting. That is what Ms.Orwellian Doublespeak actually said. Irony My Man, Irony. You lot need to start taking a Daily Irony Supplement. You are all anemic in your Irony Awareness levels.
April 13, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was cute wordplay, liam.
In fact, I can relate to Hillary's story. I am not a hunter, but I have gone hunting. I hated it. My father dragged me out into the Minnesota fields in August when I was a kid (maybe age 10?). It was hot, the gun was heavy, I'm nearsighted so I can't see anything from a distance, and my grandmother had to pull ticks off me when we got back to her house. Memorable but miserable.
Some family traditions are meant to die.
April 13, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
All this Obama-believing is fine and good, but keep in mind - it's not going to be enough just to believe. It's not going to be enough just to get him and Michelle and the girls in that White House. It's not going to be enough to elect the people into Congress who will smooth the way for his early efforts. It's not going to be enough to listen to the weekly Fireside Chats.
We comfortable, educated, employed suburban white folks are going to have make a lot of changes and many of them are not going to be pleasant. Just paying 3 times as much for solar shingles on the roof, and getting rid of that Subaru Forester trading it in for a Corolla wagon are going to have a big impact on our white suburban lifestyles. And that's just the beginning.
Actually working to change opinions of resistant white suburbanites next door is going to be much harder. And no real change is going to happen until we change our whole standard of living.
April 13, 2008 5:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hear hear!
We can have the biggest impact of all in the big change in Washington. Don't put up with the politics as usual. Don't put up with the tactics of division. Stay informed and keep government accountable.
But it will be helpful to have an ally in the white house that thinks along the same lines.
April 13, 2008 6:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is hard, elf. I couldn't even do the believe part.
April 13, 2008 6:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to study, so this will be quick...
I am aslo confused by Hillary.
A while ago, it was all about Barack only being about words and speeches. He needed to be a "do'er" not a "talker."
Jump ahead to this week. Now it's all about his speech and what he said. He said the wrong thing.
Even though he is now trying do things.
I mean which one is it?
April 13, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
It wasn't a "speech". It was an answer to a question at a fundraiser that somebody secretly recorded on a cellphone.
What would happen if a recording would leak of what goes on in Hillary's camp during strategy meetings?
April 13, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Front-page TPM story on that imagined "leak"---
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/188673.php
April 13, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Better yet, what would happen if that video showed Hillary Clinton analyzing and explaining the reasons why black voters aren't voting for her in this primary?
Shame on you people for the double standards you employ in the echo chamber.
April 13, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Her surrogates have been pretty clear on her behalf.
It'd be refreshing to see her show some understading.
But she still has no idea of why people aren't voting for her.
Obama's trying to understand and overcome the divisions. She's trying to exploit them.
That's typical politics. This year, typical politics WILL fail.
April 13, 2008 10:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well Billy, I'll take that one on. She might say something like:
"I guess Black folks ain't voting for me because I'm a got damn liar! But since this week I'm a bona fide heat packin', Yosemite Sam, gun freak -- another got damn lie -- lemme bust out my AK and show these MFs whas'up. Because none a' you bitches even count. Texas don't count. Shit, half this MF country don't count. Fuck them 30 states! Fuck it, because now I'm Ms Motherfuckin' Calamity Jane bitch! Fresh out the MF bunker. I'm battle scared and battle tested, bitch. What!
Proof my azz bitch. Got Bosnia battle scars on the left side of my pantsuit wedgie! That's all the MF proof I need! And no, the cameras cannot look! What the fuck I look like? Huh?
It's called, Pussy Control, Bitch! And I OWN IT! Now gimme that MF presidency. Before I sit down in the middle of this motherfuckin' coffee shop and start motherfucking crying for them bitch azz cameras!"
April 13, 2008 10:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're a credit to your candidate.
April 14, 2008 11:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Likelies. Opps I meant likewise.
April 14, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
For one thing, your argument is actually off.
For One: The two groups of people being compared here have very different histories (with some similarities - but I really get tired of the "what if someone said this about black people trope" as a black person, please stop coopting our history in order to make points that could be validly made without us... but just to put it out there, Obama said the same thing about inner city people who turn to drugs, guns and gangs) and in that case Hillary would have been "exonerating" the black vote of not voting for her, she would be showing that she doesn't believe she's entitled to their votes, and suggesting that is history and her approach for why they don't trust her and that it is her job to try to persuade these users to believe in her again.
Is that what she said? No. Instead what she and her husband have done is make a series of dismissals as to why she isn't gaining this. Then she shows up at the State of The Black Union and talks about how her husband apologized for slavery as the black community was literally creamed by policies that she approved. Unlike other people who say she didn't help in the white house, I think she did and she helped to pass welfare reform, she helped with crack sentences, she helped with don't ask don't tell. She helped with NAFTA. Don't take those accomplishments away from her, for every positive that Clinton did as someone who lived and was the poorest of them, she helped him and for every failure she helped as well.
I've seen the whole video and I've heard the audio, and I've read the quote. And I have also noted that very few people have talked about the paternalism of Hillary's response. As a poor person with urban and rural roots, the romanticization of the poor is not the answer to our problems.
April 14, 2008 12:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have to study, so this will be quick...
I am aslo confused by Hillary.
A while ago, it was all about Barack only being about words and speeches. He needed to be a "do'er" not a "talker."
Jump ahead to this week. Now it's all about his speech and what he said. He said the wrong thing.
Even though he is now trying do things.
I mean which one is it?
April 13, 2008 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
You said, "My father dragged me out into the Minnesota fields in August when I was a kid (maybe age 10?)."
I have the feeling that your claim is about as accurate as Hillary's. In other words it is BS. No hunting seasons are open in Minnesota in August.
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/hunting/smallgame/index.html
April 13, 2008 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
You don't get out into the country much, do you.
April 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think most single moms are elitist, living lives of luxury while living off the government. Obama is obviously an elitist, too, as most community organizers are.
Some of the people who most respect small town people are people who serve on boards of socially responsible companies, like Wal-Mart. Hillary Clinton has learned a lot about the value of the little people through her time as a Wal-Mart Board Director, because it's a company that helps the economies of America's small towns by letting them do one-stop shopping, instead of having to go from small business after small business.
People who live in Wal-Mart towns are not bitter, but resilient and fulfilled, even though they have minimal benefits and poor health care. They realize that they and their children haven't deserved to share in the economic prosperity that some Americans have had in the past thirty years. They just accept it because they're good Americans and they know their place.
Wal-Mart, always looking out for the little guy, also sells guns. That way, people in small, Wal-Mart towns can hunt so they'll have something to eat for dinner.
April 13, 2008 11:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Snark so thick you could cut it with a knife...
April 14, 2008 11:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
Brrr! Chillingly good writing! (Snarky, yes, but good.)
April 14, 2008 11:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
Having heard the audio AND read this email, I have to say, you would have to be mentally locked and loaded against Obama to hear it like Billy says he hears it. Either he's spinning and knows better, or he's so brainwashed that Lifton could use him as a role model.
Myrna's perspective is right-on, and even a former Edwards fan like myself would have to be very anti-Obama in mindset to twist these words into something akin to elitism.
For a reality gut-check, just transpose "uppity" with "elitist" and the sheer irony is astounding.
April 14, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
The Clintons will lie about anything and everything. This is just one more example to add to the ever-growing list.
April 14, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Please post this over at Obama's website for blogs:
mybarackobama.com
April 14, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Amen to that!!!
April 14, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's a good example of elitist thought. Check the comments, too.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/my-letter-to-josh.php
Imagine if Obama said something like that about the reason people join the military. Remember John Kerry? Can you imagine what Jim Webb would think of Obama if he thought that letter reflected Obama's attitudes. Are we sure they don't?
Hypocrisy abounds. I myself have said many times that the "value voters" vote against their own interests. It's a Democratic Party article of faith.
But don't expect me to back a candidate who gets caught on record calling the Republican base stupid. What a waste.
April 14, 2008 11:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe you could point out what is elitist about the author's statement? Christ, Billy, for someone who sits around passing judgement on everything you don't like that gets posted here, for someone that constantly points out how you are above everything, you've got a lot of nerve calling someone other than yourself an elitist.
Bitter much?
April 14, 2008 12:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Come on.
No one has done more for small town America than Barack Obama.
April 14, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Um, dude. Don't you realize that Hunting Seasons, Game licenses and the like are for elitists?
Seriously - if your freezer is empty, whether that critter you see is in season or not, it's dead.
April 14, 2008 12:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Plus, if it's your property, you can do whatever the hell you want on it. Especially when the nearest neighbor is miles away.
April 14, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
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