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Bill Clinton's Convention Speech
Two facts:
1. Barack Obama will be the Democratic nominee.
2. Bill Clinton will speak at the Democratic convention.
Discuss.
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Two facts:
1. Barack Obama will be the Democratic nominee.
2. Bill Clinton will speak at the Democratic convention.
Discuss.
Comments (15)
Awkward moment in the making! I must get tickets...
April 16, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't see what the problem is here. If the Clintons are as opportunistic, manipulating, and scheming as the majority of posters at TPM Cafe seem to think, then it will be just another day at the office for Bill. I mean, the Clintons have no honor or loyalty (Hillary pulled the trigger on Vince Foster, you know).
April 16, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, other than the strawman (I don't think that describes the majority of us, although I'll admit there are a few), how do you think it will be? I doubt any of us realistically think Bill will be anything other than smooth, but surely there'll be an awkwardness felt by all, right?
April 16, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I won't have any awkwardness. I know how to use my remote to turn off the TV.
The "strawman" was meant to be humorous. My apologies, I didn't realize that only 80% of the Recommended reader blogs were anti-Hillary today. I should have scanned first, and realized it wasn't the 90-100% it normally is.
April 16, 2008 12:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I felt it was meant to be humorous, but still felt the need to correct it. :P
Would you really turn it off, however? Aren't you interested in what Bill will have to say? (I won't watch it on TV myself, but I'll probably watch the whole thing over the internet.)
April 16, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm always interested in what Bill has to say. I'll probably read the transcript online, though.
April 16, 2008 12:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
1. Yay.
2. Ew.
I didn't know I felt the "ew" part until I read the post. He has to be invited, he has to speak, he has to get applause, but I am really not looking forward to it. That's how bad this has gotten.
April 16, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hopefully, they'll put him on at 1pm when there's like 40 people in the audience.
April 16, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary won't drop out until half-way through Obama's second term.
April 16, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
Reminds me of Kennedy's speech in 1980.
The only hope is that Hillary's harboring aspirations for another shot in 2012 or so and/or a shot at Harry Reid's post as Senate Majority Leader. If Bill can't restrain himself from being obnoxious, he just may blow any chances she might have for either of these.
April 16, 2008 12:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bill Clinton would see his convention speech as an opportunity to distance himself from the bitter taste people got from the divisive campaign by calling for unity and healing. It should be easy to dismiss the negative attacks as old school politics. He could co-opt Obama's position and say something like...
"what we've all learned from during this election is that people want to move beyond the game playing. We are on the cusp of something new, something exciting about America. People want to talk about the sun rising, not how hot it's gonna be today."
His legacy would mend, and he could still be a major player, not only within the party, but perhaps an Obama Administration.
One can only hope.
April 16, 2008 12:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I honestly think HRC and WJC are doing what they feel is in the best interest of the Democratic Party and the US of A. The problem isn't their motives, it's the manifestation of their motives. An analogy is Bush's invasion of Iraq. I'm not so cynical (yet) to believe that Bush intentionally did something he knew would be catastrophic for this country (I'll even go far as to say he thought he was doing the right thing for Iraq, too).
But my point (other than to demonstrate that without sound judgement the best of intentions can be just as dangerous as the worst of intentions) is that come August, when the only game in town is Obama vs. McCain, the Clintons will have the choice of being gracious or being irrelevant. I cannot imagine either Clinton willing to sit on the sideline and being labeled Poor Loser. In fact, I see them going overboard in the other direction, pretending the whole primary didn't occur, that we all knew Obama was going to win, we just wanted to toughen him up for the General, etc. ... I.e., being gracious will be the smart and expedient thing to do -- I have no doubt both will be attempting to charm the pants (err, wrong metaphor) off of everyone in Denver.
April 16, 2008 12:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Those facts are like saying the Cubs are going to win the world series...that only happens in movies.
April 16, 2008 1:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Surely you don't fact #2, do you?
April 16, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
(correction)
Surely you don't doubt fact #2, do you?
April 16, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
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