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Bill Clinton Race Card Rant "I Don't Think I Should Take Any Sh** From Anyone On That, Do You?" + New Yorker Article Says "He Doesn't Like Obama"
Haven't seen anyone talking about the colorful ending to Bill Clinton's "I love you darkies, my office is in Harlem!" race card radio rant so here it is in all of its glory.
The New Yorker also has an article to be published next week with a rundown of Bill Vs. Barack.
Here's one nice excerpt
When he makes news, it is rarely a good day for his spouse. Whether he
was publicly comparing Barack Obama’s primary victory in South Carolina
to Jesse Jackson’s campaigns in the eighties or privately, and
apoplectically, complaining that Bill Richardson broke his word by
endorsing Obama, every story has seemed to reinforce an image of
Clinton as a sort of ill-tempered coot driven a little mad by Obama’s
success. “I think this campaign has enraged him,” the adviser told me.
“He doesn’t like Obama.” In private conversations, he has been
dismissive of his wife’s rival. James Clyburn, an African-American
congressman from South Carolina, told me that Clinton called him in the
middle of the night after Obama won that state’s primary and raged at
him for fifty minutes.
Sounds like Bill needs to switch to decaf.
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Comments (27)
It's not Bill's fault. He simply felt entitled after Toni Morrison proclaimed him the first "black president". The black community seemed to accept that ridiculous assertion. I heard little or no dispute. There in lies the genesis of his feeling of betrayal. His expectation of Bill Richardson to deliver Latino votes for Hillary has been tested as well. Two essential demographics are in danger. Bill is mad as hell and vows not to take it anymore. Get out the sax.
April 28, 2008 7:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
No...there was dissension. Problem was white people ate that shit up and self-appointed Kings of Blackness rolled with it instead of giving the Morrison the smackdown she deserves for saying such stupid things. Add to the fact that sAKoBs never corrected the chuckleheads of the media whenever they said it, it grew. But trust...there's a lot of people who were pissed when it was first said and have been speaking out against it all these years.
April 28, 2008 4:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is one white boy who never ate that shit up.
Always kinda wondered.
Actually nice to hear someone saying it was dumb at the time. I didn't get how playing the sax, eating southern food, and being an empath made him black.
April 28, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm sure you read what Morrison actually wrote. Right? Didn't seem to me to be a compliment at the time. I sort of thought her point was that the white establishment was treating Clinton the way they always treat black men. And that's what she meant by first black President. But maybe I didn't get it right. I'm always willing to learn. What part of what she actually wrote do you object to?
April 28, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is this the part you object to?
"African-American men seemed to understand it right away. Years ago, in the middle of the Whitewater investigation, one heard the first murmurs: white skin notwithstanding, this is our first black President. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children's lifetime. After all, Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald's-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas. And when virtually all the African-American Clinton appointees began, one by one, to disappear, when the President's body, his privacy, his unpoliced sexuality became the focus of the persecution, when he was metaphorically seized and bodysearched, who could gainsay these black men who knew whereof they spoke? The message was clear "No matter how smart you are, how hard you work, how much coin you earn for us, we will put you in your place or put you out of the place you have somehow, albeit with our permission, achieved. You will be fired from your job, sent away in disgrace, and--who knows?--maybe sentenced and jailed to boot. In short, unless you do as we say (i.e., assimilate at once), your expletives belong to us."
I'm sorry. If you're going to rant about something, at least read it first.
April 28, 2008 10:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
And what really mystifies me is that when someone asked Barack Obama about this passage during the debate in SC, Obama blew it off, saying he'd have to see Bill Clinton shoot some hoops and dance before he could tell if he was a "brother." Talk about chickens coming home to roost. What the hell are they doing to Obama now?
April 28, 2008 10:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
'how dare that black man beat my wife hillary and make me look bad"
pathetic racist bill.
pathetic lier in chief.
perfect together.
April 28, 2008 8:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm seriously beginning to think he suffered some brain damage during his bypass surgery.
April 28, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's possible you're right, but the thing is, Bill's always gone into purple-faced rages, always wallowed in self-pity and victimhood, always been a narcissist. It's just that when he was president and the people attacking him were crazy right-wingers, it was easier to overlook or forgive these flaws -- flaws which, along with a lack of self-discipline, ultimately undermined his presidency. My theory is that Bill hasn't really changed; rather, this campaign has shined a brighter light on what has always been his dark side.
April 28, 2008 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree, there was so much crap coming from the rightwing, Bill's record - massive banking, media and telecom deregulation to the detriment of the ordinary people, inflation of the dotcom bubble, dismantling welfare for singlemoms, bombing Iraq and Kosovo, Waco, his lies about his affairs, etc. - got a pass from everyone. The prosperity was actually based on a massive dotcom bubble and the wealth proliferated through the crazy issuance of junk monetary instruments upon the repeal of Glass-Steagall by Bill himself.
Here's a chronology:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/demise.html
With both of them back in the White House, it'll be a nightmare all over.
April 28, 2008 11:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
I am ashamed that I defended Bill and Hillary Clinton during the impeachment fiasco. During the last 12 months I have come to realize that they will say and do anything to hold on to power, even discredit and attack a candidate who is, ultimately, a good man. My conservative friends and I have something in common.
I won't make the mistake twice.
April 28, 2008 9:39 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't be ashamed for having been on the right side of history during the 1990s. When Bill and Hillary were under assault by the radical right they needed us to stand up for them and for ourselves.
Problem is, they're not waging a fight against the radical right at the moment.
April 28, 2008 11:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
if we had actually stood up for ourselves as well as we did for them, they couldn't have gotten away with instigating all those disasters which Qwerty lists so accurately above ...
which, btw, are largely what got us to where we are now! or at least made what we have these days that much easier to 'achieve'!
April 28, 2008 3:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm ashamed I ever voted for him. At least he's taught me that no Democrat is going to get my vote without earning it. Wow! Maybe I've just become an Independent.
April 28, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
bill doesn't like barack?
but he does so well faking it, you'd never know...
April 28, 2008 1:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think it was you who once posted here that if Bill's wife weren't running, Bill would LOVE Barack and see him as some sort of protege.
April 28, 2008 3:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
no, i dont think that was me.
April 28, 2008 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, it was somebody else. I think it's true, though.
April 28, 2008 8:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is time to embrace Hillary Klintons as our new Dear Leader.
April 28, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think anybody has ever seriously denied Bill's narcissism. I have to say, I've been surprised by the degree to which Hillary shares it.
April 28, 2008 4:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have never seen this reported but
Bill has the classic Alcoholic nose.
Red, enlarged, and I notice it has gotten
bigger as time has gone on.
My theory is he is a functioning alcoholic
and therefore not as sharp and aware as
he once was. It actually explains a lot
about the man and his behavior.
April 28, 2008 4:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dr. Frist. Paging Dr. Frist.
gag me.
April 28, 2008 4:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh no, I can tell by the Internet that you're gagging.
Stand back, everybody.
I have 1st Aid training.
I can even perform on online Heimlich.
Frist taught me.
Everything's going to be all right fabooj.
April 28, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Talk about being an asshat! I don't care what Bill Clinton does or doesn't like. I don't give a damn that Bill hates losing. This primary isn't about Bill. Or, Hillary. Or, Barack. Its about us!
April 28, 2008 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's go back to Bill's interview. I don't care about the ending of it...this is a former president, so of course he's going to be prima donna about this sort of stuff. I want to go back into his explanation about the SC statement. He clearly had a "late night adult moment" when talking about this because he said it was in the morning before SC even voted. Now, I clearly remember sitting here in my living room getting ready to liveblog the returns. MSNBC was on and there was Bill saying that live. IIRC, polls were about to close in 20 or so minutes.
April 28, 2008 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's not his only "senior/Bosnia moment" in the interview. It's chock full of them.
Uh, no, it was not "a conversation" with "two African America members of Congress" that was somehow picked up on video; it was Bill's answer to this question from a reporter:
"What does it say about Barack Obama that it takes two of you to beat him?"
As you can see from the video, he is standing, not sitting; outdoors, not eating breakfast; and those two AA congressmen are nowhere in sight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqd2dfjl2pw
Didn't they learn from Bosnia that you shouldn't rewrite history that has been recorded on videotape?
OK, it's unclear what the "this" refers to in "this was started off..." but I would really like to know who made the claim 1) Barack Obama did not have African American support or 2) Obama's white support was "better" because Jesse Jackson had blue-collar working people.
Please, please, please, Bill, who on earth made EITHER of those claims?
This implies that Jesse Jackson tacitly admitted that the criticisms of Clinton were a political ploy on the part of the Obama campaign. But I bet $100 that Jesse Jackson did not say, "We all know what's going on." In fact, while Jackson did tell the NYTIMES that he was not offended by the comment, he also said:
April 28, 2008 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice pickup. I'm in SC and although I remember him saying that in the camera to a reporter I didn't know the setting so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.....I know I know
I'm just LMAO at Billy thinking he's being persecuted. John of Ark
April 29, 2008 2:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
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