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Won't be fooled again?

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Tim Russert assembled his usual panel of Clinton haters on "Meet the
Press" today to consider, among other things, whether Bill Clinton
thinks Barack Obama doesn't love his country.  As could be expected,
Russert played only the carefully snipped clip portraying Clinton's remarks in the worse possible way.

If he were fair -- which we know he's not -- he would have played a large chunk
before and after the offending remarks to show the general context of
what Clinton was saying.  But this isn't how the media operates.  They
want to stir outrage based not on what a person actually intended to
say, but the literal transcription of his or her words.

Bill Clinton was advocating for his wife.  Obviously he wants her to
win, so he was envisioning a race between two people, and those two
people, in his scenario -- if certainly not the media's -- are Hillary
Clinton and John McCain.  

I know the media considers this audacious, since Obama is leading and
how dare Clinton talk about the general election when Hillary's
losing.  The press  took the same tack when Hillary mentioned Obama as
a running mate; she's not allowed to believe she can win, no less
consider the guy who probably will as her second banana.  If she didn't
believe in herself, she and any other candidate in her place wouldn't
be able to get out of bed in the morning. The audacity!

But let's look at what Bill Clinton actually said -- and, more
importantly, meant.  He began the part of his speech leading to "two
people who love this country" by calling McCain "an honorable man" and
talking about the friendship he and Hillary share, despite their
differences on the issues.    While he was saying Hillary and McCain
are "two people who love this county," he wasn't saying Obama isn't. 
He wasn't denigrating him by omission -- again, how dare he not mention
Obama and make his case? -- he was praising McCain.  He was saying
McCain is the only Republican you could expect to run, if not a saintly
campaign, an above-board and civil one that tries to focus on the
issues and "not all that other stuff."  A Giuliani or a Romney would
not; they'd use wedge issues and other divisive means to distract
people from the issues.  Even here, I don't think he was saying they
don't love their country, just that they'd be less bound by ethical
restraints.

Was Clinton really saying that anyone other than these "two people" --
the dozen or more candidates on both sides who ran for president this
year, or anyone else with that presidential gleam in their eye whom
Clinton failed to mention -- don't love their country?  Do we really
have to be that literal?  Do we have to hold Bill Clinton to impossible
standards and dice and splice and dissect everything he says,
attributing only bad motives, never good ones?  Is there any reservoir
of good will left for our last good, if not great, Democratic
president?  I know the media hates him, but do Democrats have to? 

Remember how they hated Al Gore, called him a liar and a phony and a
nerd, and cast everything he did in the worst light? Were they right
about that? No. Were many duped by it?  Yes.  Did he lose the election,
and pave the way for the most disastrous presidency in our lifetimes? 
Yes (assuming you believe he lost.)  Is he now a Democratic hero? Yes. 
Does that cause you to reassess the media's character-judging
abilities?  It should.

Is it possible the media is up to their old tricks, and are wrong again? Yes. Will we be fooled again?  I certainly hope not.


Comments (10)

1. Mark Halperin has a page in Time where he says "the media would like Obama to get the nomination". So, let's admit, the media is in the bag.

2. The SREAM this weekend is that Clinton should drop out of the campaign. Why? Follow this link to find out:

http://www.correntewire.com/why_wont_that_stupid_bitch_quit_watch_0


3. Obama is becoming the Mitt Romney candidate. He is outspending Clinton massively and he lost Ohio and Texas. His prospects for the rest of the contests don't look so rosy:

http://www.correntewire.com/what_jerome_said


If you are a Clinton supporter, don't be fooled, that's all I can say. Clinton can win this nomination. Clinton will win this nomination.

Obama won Texas.

Out of 141 delegates in Ohio, Hillary had a net gain of +9, which is 6% of the total.

You're grasping at straws. Hillary can't win this unless the super-delegates ignore Obama's lead in pledged delegates, ignore Obama's lead in fundraising, Obama's lead in the popular vote even if you count Michigan where his name wasn't even on the ballot, etc., etc. They'd have to ignore all of that, and then buy into the argument that primary results extrapolate into general election results, and buy into the argument that Wright has hurt Obama irreparably in spite of the polls turning around very quickly.

She can't win. She won't win. She has every right to campaign as long as she wants but all she can do at this point is try to hurt the party as much as possible on her way out.

wow, suzynuze, this is a great post! i have been defending bill clinton's comments against all sorts of obama supporters over at election central:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/obamasupporting_retired_genera.php

thanks for posting this. you really make a lot of excellent points. i wish i had said some of them ;-)

"3. Obama is becoming the Mitt Romney candidate. He is outspending Clinton massively and he lost Ohio and Texas. His prospects for the rest of the contests don't look so rosy"

Nope, he won Texas.

"Clinton can win this nomination."

Nope.

"Clinton will win this nomination."

Nope.

:-) He won Texas with people who get to vote twice. Just like he won Michigan and Florida where nobody gets to vote.

Get your blinders off.

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Bill Clinton to impossible standards? how about Obama to impossible standards. You must have been watching a very different Meet the Press than was shown at my house, looking forward to any following posts to this one.

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PS:

He may not have shown all of Bill's clip, but he certainly showed Rev Wright's for the how many thousands of times!

"he wasn't saying Obama isn't.
He wasn't denigrating him by omission"

Nice try, but like you say, we won't be fooled again.

This is a little OT but related to the practice of media editing and misinterpreting comments to promote controversy. The Ferraro comments were in print for almost a week without a peep. As soon as the comments were decried by one side, media outlets declared that the statements were plainly racist, outrageous and offensive. I think her comments were wrong and a dig at Obama but not racist.

Of course, the context in the original story was completely ignored as if context has no bearing on what someone is saying. Also, the original reporter was playing the gotcha game himself. He transcribed a phone interview by breaking up sentences into sound-bites that misconstrue what was said. I.e., "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color), he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

Now, if you were transcribing spoken comments, would you end sentences before the conjunction, “and”? Thus, Ferraro said, “If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position” and nothing more. She also said, “And the country is caught up in the concept” but I don’t see it as a headline. It is just the typical sort of shoddy yellow journalism that pervades the media.

Just my two cents, but as an Obama supporter I didn't see anything wrong with WJC's comments. Also, I completely disagree with McPeak's ridiculous response - they need to get that guy out of public discourse.

Otherwise - I think the MSM is at it again - slow news holiday weekend for them.

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