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Un-freaking-hinged!

A leisurely saunter through todays "blogs" will take you past various and sundry insanity directed toward Senator Clinton.

* She is a racist.
* She's a bitch.
* She's a "dirty scumbag."
* She (supposedly) endorsed McCain.
* She's just like Karl Rove.
* She wants Obama to not win so she can run in 2012.
* She was the reason the Democrats lost the congress in 1994.
* She's a Republican wolf in Democratic sheep's clothing.
* Obama should start bashing her with--of all things!--Monica Lewinsky!
* He should bring up Whitewater.
* He should hit her with Bill's impeachment.   (how this and the Lewinsky thing tarnishes her is a mystery.)

Anyway, just a sampling. 

The word "unhinged" bubbles up.


Comments (36)

And what kind of insanity would you see directed toward Obama, or are you blind to that?

Certainly, you don't hold Obama responsible for what several bloggers here are saying, do you?

Ben,

By now you should be perfectly aware I have none of these kinds of issues with Barack Obama. So, of course not. I am not holding Obama resposible. Wasn't even suggested.

I wonder if any of this insanity goes on in the actual Obama campaign or it's confined to the crazies around here.

I'd bet big money that Barack Obama finds himself cringing inside at many of the folks that attend his "rock star" rallies. But you take whatever comes, I suppose.

Apparently there is lots of insanity going on in the Clinton Campaign Headquarters:
From the Washington Post

Even in Victory, Clinton Team Battling Itself

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/05/AR2008030503621.html

Sure, but those are only one half of the unhinged comments. One also finds claims that Obama is a secret Muslim manchurian candidate, that he is days away from being indicted as a co-conspirator in Rezko's wrongdoings, that he wants to disenfranchise MI and FL, that his supporters are all cultists, and "limosine liberals" (there's a republican talking point for you), that Obama will not say the pledge of allegiance, that he is weak and timid, &c and so forth. In other words, the campaign is making partisans of both sides foam at the mouth. It is not pretty, but why focus on only one half of the patently unhinged folks?

Well, I suppose it's because, like you, I can't prove it but I just feel it in my bones that the crazies are overwhelmingly on the Obama side and should be mocked whenever possible. ;^}

so when hillary clinton's campaign intentionally darkens barack obama's skin tone to make him "blacker" how is that not a play on racism?

note, i don't think hillary herself is a racist, just that her campaign is more than willing to exploit it as a tactic if she thinks it can help her win.

Clinton making Obama "Blacker"

Obama "Blacker" Ad No Accident

Oh and don't forget her, Obama isn't a muslim "as far as i know" line. I mean, he could be a muslim, but as far as i know, he isn't.

http://www.samefacts.com/archives/campaign_2008_/2008/03/hillarys_consistency.php

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Stop with the insanity already!

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/did_clinton_darken_obamas_skin.html

Why not fact check your idiotic claims?

Your shrink probably has a term for that, you know...

You, loki redux, probably the craziest of Hillary's lot seeing nothing but roving lunatics standing in opposition to your candidate...?

I think that's called projection...

The Lewinsky thing tarnishes her because she's using Bill as a surrogate and pointing to him as a reason to vote for her.

Like Bill's record as president, she's cherry picking. Taking the good without the bad.

Anyway, we need to get past this idea that dislike for a candidate is some kind of moral failing. Rightwing blogs love to cherry pick enraged comments about Bush, but does that mean bush hasn't damaged the nation greatly. No, those people have every right to be enraged at bush. And the Anti-Hillary legion has every right to be upset with her as well.

When this campaign started I supported Edwars and , frankly had little use for either Obama or Clinton as they are both , in my book "Corporate Democrats".
I went to different Democratic sites and pitched for John Edwards. And I was ATTACKED! Not by Clinton supporters but by Obama supporters!
They called me names and made personal remarks, which were sometimes amusing as I think they believed me to be a college age male, which I am not.After Edwards was forced out so the Democratic Party could "make history" I pretty much dis-engaged from the whole process.
But , hey , I watch the news and have been astonished and outraged at the treatment Hillary Clinton has received from the media and from Obama supporters.
Many Obama supporters have really mean mouths and that , in addition to Michelle Obama's constant inflammatory statements, and Mr. Obama making statements like"Well , I can get Hillary's voters but she can't get mine!" (Way to unify the Party Barack!) have caused me to stand way back from Obama and his supporters.
He will never get my vote just because of these attacks mentioned by the op.
Good manners are their own reward.

check out hillary's tactics and then talk about "manners"

Clinton Campaign making Obama "blacker"

Obama "Blacker" Ad No Accident

I looked at it and, again I'm no big Clinton backer,( I may well write in Edwards!) I thought it was a little silly.
I quite frankly, don't care how "black " Sen. Obama looks. His race shouldn't matter and if, someone truly is racist, the skin tone won't make a difference the very fact of his race is what will matter!
Are you suggesting that he has bi-partisan support because he is lighter complected? And that if he looked like Yaphet Kotto, who I adore, he would not be as popular? I don't buy that!
Or are you suggesting Clinton campaign operatives feel that way and adjusted the photo accordingly?
I copy a lot of photos on my computer and , depending on my toner supply, they sometimes are lighter or darker.

Hate to break it to you...but he's not "blacker" in those ads. He's grayer! He's monotone. There is some serious incompetence in reproduction there, that's all. He looks much more "Afican-American" in the original.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

I don't know the details either way, but I have to back you up on this one. I've seen myself "darkened" significantly depending on the type of film used.

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So you admit it is sanity to conclude that if you like Bush you will love Hillary?

Thank you for the concession. You're not all bad after all.

You might want to note the electoral maps by SurveyUSA. Hillary loses the most liberal state in the nation to McCain. That was the state that had cities vote to arrest George Bush. You need an explanation?

Best, Terry

Hey Terry!

Did ya hear? "Race" is still scientifically incorrect! Great news, huh!

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* She is a racist.
* She's a bitch.
* She's a "dirty scumbag."
* She (supposedly) endorsed McCain.
* She's just like Karl Rove.

* She wants Obama to not win so she can run in 2012.
* She was the reason the Democrats lost the congress in 1994.
* She's a Republican wolf in Democratic sheep's clothing.
* Obama should start bashing her with--of all things!--Monica Lewinsky!
* He should bring up Whitewater.
* He should hit her with Bill's impeachment. (how this and the Lewinsky thing tarnishes her is a mystery.)


emphasis mine. because they are true statements.

And I will add a few more...

*She is incredibly divisive and the most hated woman in American politics.
* African-American voters will defect from the party if she is the nominee.
*She may be in it, but not to win it.

What is unhinged is a post like this one. The heavens will not open up, celestial choirs will not start singing, you cannot waive a magic wand and somehow make this woman the nominee.

What to say?

*She is incredibly divisive and the most hated woman in American politics.


She is one of the ONLY well known women in American Politics!

* African-American voters will defect from the party if she is the nominee.
Then they deserve what they get!

Hello, President McCain!

If you think she is the only well known woman in American politics then you have not been paying attention. My first political hero as a preteen was Barbara Jordan. Hillary is a weak represnentative of women in politics. Moost of them earned their position and fame instead of getting there by nepotism. Here election would not be a victory for women it would be a victory for cronyism.

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She isn't racist, but she obviously has no problem exploiting racism for political gain.

She IS a bitch, this is true (and no, not because she is a strong woman, it is because she is a bitch, quite obviously, just looking at the nasty things she has said and done)

Dirty scumbag is an understatement I think.

She basically did endorse McCain for the general against Obama, and you can't really deny it.

I don't think she is as smart as Karl Rove, but she has a lot of the same tendencies. Her 3am ad was a perfect example of Rovian fearmongering. You can try to deny it...but seriously.

I think she wants Obama to lose out of spite, anger, jealousy and hurt pride...but the 2012 thing could be true...hard to say. THAT would be Rovian for sure.

She wasn't the sole cause of the Democratic loss, but the Clintons and how they ran things played a huge role. And I think it is safe to say that if she somehow beat Obama (not happening) and then somehow beat McCain (would never happen) and became president, we would see Congressional losses in 08, 2010, 2012 (and then we'll see if she got reelected).

The Democrats kind of are sheep, which pisses me off, and yeah, she is kind of a Republican in some respects, mostly in her ethics, character and foreign policy...not as much in her domestic policy, although she is quit corporation/lobbyist friendly.

Who the hell brought up Lewinsky? That is stupid, SNL will do that for us, if they ever stop their love affair with Hillary.

He doesn't need to bring up Whitewater, there are much fresher dirt to be gone through!

Who the hell brought up Lewinsky? That is stupid, SNL will do that for us, if they ever stop their love affair with Hillary.

He doesn't need to bring up Whitewater, there are much fresher dirt to be gone through!

Well, since you asked:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/destroy-hillary-now-my-march-5.php

Be sure to read the comments.

Truth hurts.

* She is a racist.
She might not be a racist or bigot, Ill take her word that she isn't, but she has no problem pandering to them to win an election.

* She's a bitch.
Could be a good skill for the job.

* She's a "dirty scumbag."
Well she is, as far I know.

* She (supposedly) endorsed McCain.
I can see why people see her remarks in that light. I don't necessarily agree.

* She's just like Karl Rove.
Not really. They play different positions but aren't afraid to do whatever it takes to win.

* She wants Obama to not win so she can run in 2012.
A reach. Who knows.

* She was the reason the Democrats lost the congress in 1994.
Her husband? Yeah. Her? I don't think her tea parties killed the Party but maybe that Healthcare fiasco in 93 had something to do with that. What did repubs run on in 94? What did they use as ammunition? Lifetime of experience. Her words.

* She's a Republican wolf in Democratic sheep's clothing.
A republicrat who can't admit that she made a mistake on Iraq? Where have we seen that flag wavin 3 oclock in the mornin routine before?


* Obama should start bashing her with--of all things!--Monica Lewinsky!
Well, since Bill's experiences are hers what do you expect? Plus wouldnt Bill, his cigars and his penis all be in the White House again?
Fair game.


* He should bring up Whitewater.
If Hillary and friends can bring up Rezko, where Obama is not implicated, why can't anyone else bring up Whitewater? What's good for the goose....

* He should hit her with Bill's impeachment.
(how this and the Lewinsky thing tarnishes her is a mystery.)
Would she leave Billy in Harlem? If so, I could see it not mattering. But if she's going to have a guy who lies to the American people over skirt chasing and gives repubs ammo to stop the Dems from doing business then that is a serious judgement issue. Don't pretend that there weren't Clinton missteps involved with the success of the Contract With America.

More victimization BS. She decides to get dirty when things get rough and her supporters cry if anyone MENTIONS hitting her with actual problems with her associates, judgement and experience. Gimme a friggin break.


It worked for her.
Hey its just politics right? Except when it comes to the perpetual victim Clintons. Why's everybody always picking on them?

I agree and find the tenor or the anti-Hillary polemics disheartening. I really don't care very much who the nominee is. There is much to like (and something to dislike) about either of them. But the level of animosity against Hillary is a huge turn off. Adding to your list, I would note that even heretofore respected figures like Paul Krugman and Joseph Wilson are dismissed as somehow being in Clinton's pocket. What really rankles is that many of these attacks echo right wing talking points. And to add to that, they are made by supporters of a candidate whose professed goal is to move past the "old divisions." So this is the new politics?

I'm quite in agreement with you.

It'll be a better day in America when Obama or Clinton is inaugurated. But getting there is awfully ugly.

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Have you paid any attention to the Clinton talking points that have been flowing out of Krugman and Wilson?? They are very much in her pocket, and even a chimp would find that obvious.

Tina Fey, who is having some kind of weird lesbian affair with Hillary (just watch snl and tell me i'm wrong) confirmed Hillary was a bitch.

So, I think that is beyond dispute now.

you say that like it is a bad thing!

Hey now...

Tina Fey's momentary lapse of sanity may be excused. Besides, Alec Baldwin counters her vote, so the 30 Rock segment of the population is all squared.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/obama-vs-clinton-what-t_b_87422.html

Tina may be my favorite woman in show biz right now, so I have to overlook her overzealousness to support a DLC DemoCorp. I think she deeply believes that electing a woman is important. In that, I agree with her wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, Clinton is the WRONG woman. Too polarizing, too nasty and triangulating and phony.

If it were Barbara Boxer or hell, Tina Fey herself, I would be singing their praises. Hillary Clinton would get my vote against McSame, but only because she'd be the 'lesser of two EVILS' if fate leads us down that path. Remember that the Supreme Court is on the line...

Hey! Come on, now. There's no need to be dissin' Tina Fey. She's entitled to her preference. And she's damn funny.

I got no problem with comedy and satire shows making fun of this election or the candidates.

You just humbly admit your moral superiority, right???

:-p

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Obama supporters are acting like this since the beginning of the campaign, anybody who dares to say something, anything, against him is being bombarded with non-stop hate and insults. It is clear it does not matter to them who is the opponent, in their eyes no body is good enough to compete against him. They would have behaved like this no matter which democrat would have run against him.
While Obama come across as a sane person and as an honest politician he attracts the crazies and the haters (at least in the blogosphere). I am sure Obama will, if he ever read these comments and blog, will “denounce and reject” them...

The same can't be said about Hillary supporters?
Some people really don't take it there, no matter who they support, whether dem or repub. Others hide their ravenous partisan antics in essays, blogs and op-eds behind a wall of suspect facts and citations. Some people have fun with the insults. Some are really out there- die hard misogynists, bigots, racists etc.
The only candidate I know has more than their fair share of psychos is Ron Paul.

If someone's reasoning is flawed, point it out. If someone's a troll - ignore them. Your broad generalizations about Obama supporters are not accurate.

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Unhinged? You are drinking the Howard Ickes Koolaid.

More like entirely accurate.


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This woman IS a monster:

In 1975, lawyer Hillary attacked the credibility of a 12-year-old rape victim:


"I found this story about a case where Hillary used her knowledge of child abuse to get a man off of rape charges to be very sad and disturbing. Of course, it was her job as a lawyer to provide a competent defense, but it seems like she may have crossed a line by aggressively attacking the 12-year-old girl"s character.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-usark245589997feb24,0,2670956.story

She seems to have carried that tactic with her when she actively participated in smear campaigns against the credibility of the victims of her husband"s harassment, even after he was caught lying under oath in a court of law. Making women terrified to report sexual harassment out of fear of being publicly humiliated and having their careers destroyed is a terrible role model for women, as is attacking the character of 12-year-old rape victims.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/24/164324/479/466/463280

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