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The Fierce Urgency of Hate

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As many devout supporters of Senator Barack Obama, yesterday could be viewed as "black Friday" - and that is not a bad pun.

It was a day that we saw our beloved Barack under siege. We wanted to lash out for him.We wanted to throw tomatoes at the TV (Fox News chief among them). We wanted to tell less committed Obama supporters, hang in there, don't doubt what you feel, what you think, what you know.

We scoured the usual places: TPM, TNR, HuffPost, Politico, the Page, Atlantic -- looking everywhere for signs it was going to be okay.

The we turned to Keith. And he was talking to Jonathan Alter and then Barack spoke. He was eloquent - but he was Barack. Why can't he push back harder, why doesn't he get angry, why why --- because he is Barack, He is a unique amalgamam of brains, diversity, vision and dignity.

And then a series of things happened:
Sen Obama went before the Chicago Sun Times and Chicago Tribune for over an hour and a half each ad answered every question on Antonin Rezko they had. Showed every document he had related to this. And low and behold today; those newspapers who have spent 16 months looking for "more" on this dubious alliance said - they were satisifed. That Barack Obama answered all their questions.
Today the Chicago Tribune editorial says:
"When we endorsed Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Jan. 27, we said we had formed our opinions of him during 12 years of scrutiny. We concluded that the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish him.

Nothing Obama said in our editorial board room Friday diminishes that verdict."

Then on the WRIGHT matter;
David Brooks on PBS noted the remarkable dignity with how Sen Obama was handling all this.
Doris Kearns Goodwin on Tim Russert said a true test of Obama's ability to lead will be our he handles diversity in the public arena.
David Kuo on Belief.Net wrote
"Some have said Obama needs to give a Checkers Speech. He doesn't. He has done nothing wrong. His pastor holds extreme views. He has clarified and distinguished his views from his pastor's. Done. The speech he should give is a speech about the nature of faith and politics - a speech that reminds us all about the dangers of confusing the political and the spiritual. We need that speech."

It is Saturday afternoon and now I watch Barack speak in Indiana giving that speech. He is  reminding me (and all of us) of why we supported him in the first place. Why he first got into politics - that he knew we were all ready for something new, and he says:

"This campaign started on the basis that we are one America"

"What I continue to believe in is that this conutry wants to move beyond these kinds of divisions. That this country wants somethign different"

"I just want to say to everybody here as someone who was born into a diverse family, as somebody who has little pieces of america all in me ----- I will not allow us to lose this moment, where we can not forget about our past, and not ignore the very real forces of racial inequality and gender inequality and the other things that divide us--- and not forget them but not let them divide us "
"and remember what Bobby Kennedy said ---it is within our power to join together to truly make a United States of America ---- and that we have to do that not just so our children can live together in a more peaceful country and a more peaceful world but we can join together to solve our nations problems.
We cannot solve healthcare - divided
We cannot solve terrorism - divided
We cannot take care of our veterans - divided
We cannot educate our children - divided

We have to come together
That is why you are here
That is why we are going to join this country
That is why we are going to win this election"

And that is why I know am going to be alright and than Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States.


Comments (46)

Please pass the pipe, muchas gracias.

Please note: Marginal Player has stated that if Hillary isn't the nominee of the Democratic Party, he will support McCain. See his profile. At least we know what sort of person we have here.

And he thinks Bill O'Reilly and Fox News offer un-biased Hillary coverage.

I haven't figured out if he's a troll or just a little delusional.

Yes, it's rather galling to have someone quote Robert Kennedy in this context. Kennedy came out and spoke words of wisdom, condolence, inspiration and peacefulness to a largely black crowd when Martin Luther King was shot. What does Rev. Wright think of Kennedy? What does Wright think of Kennedy's message?

Obama didn't read Wright's Spiegel interview a year ago when he noted that some whites don't have time to go lynching? (I suppose that's a major accolade for whites). Did no one from his campaign think about this? This is the first time in 20 years Obama's figuring these things out? We're not talking about private behavior - we're talking about public speeches.

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Great post. I needed something like this to get my spirits up again after all the negativity of the past couple days.

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Thanks for posting that speech and your opinion. It's encouraging.


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This is great. On a side note, I belong to the UCC in Seattle (albeit not a predominantly African-American parish). I've never belonged to a less dogmatic, more inclusive, more philosophically enlightened church. And this is part of their national mission, not just a local one.

For everyone who thinks there's something wrong with Obama's church I would ask them to attend it. To look at their web site. To subscribe to their newsletter. I promise, even if you're not a person of faith, it is thought provoking and enlightening. Two things not commonly associated with churches.

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Sorry folks, Obama had plenty of years to find a church and leader who was much less prejudiced and abrasive. I know no one who is willing to sit in the pews of a church where the pastor makes them feel sick or angry. If Obama doesn't like his pastor's rhetoric, he sure has a funny way of showing it. 20 years funny.

I know no one who is willing to sit in the pews of a church where the pastor makes them feel sick or angry.
Jesus did.

He overturned the tables in te Temple, shamed the Pharisees, and never claimed to be abything but a Jew (not even the King of the Jews).

How about liberals sitting in their Catholic services listening to the anti-gay, anti-women rhetoric? Many people fall into the camp of attending a church or following one denomination with church leaders pushing a viewpoint that the attendees don't agree completely with. It still remains important for the attendees to attend. Happens every Sunday everywhere.

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Hi Fremont

if you read "Dreams from My Father" he explains why the church became so important to him:

"And in that single note - hope! - I heard something else; at the foot of that cross, inside the thousands of churches across the city, I imagined the stories of the ordinary black people merging with the stories of David and Goliath, Moses and Pharaoh, the Christians in the lion's den, Ezekiel's field of dry bones. Those stories - of survival, and freedom, and hope - became our story, my story; the blood that had been spilled was our blood, the tears our tears; until the black church, on this bright day, seemed once more a vessel carrying the story of a people into future generations and into a larger world.
Our trials and triumphs became at once unique and universal, black and more than black; in chronicling our journey, the stories and songs gave us a means to reclaim memories that we didn't need to feel shamed about, memories more accessible than those of ancient Egypt, memories that all people might study and cherish - and with which we could start to rebuild. And if part of me continued to feel that this Sunday communion sometimes simplified our condition, that it could sometimes disguise or suppress the very real conflicts among us and would fulfill its promise only through action, I also felt for the first time how that spirit carried within it, nascent, incomplete, the possibility of moving beyond our narrow dreams."
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and further David Kuo on Belief.net talks admiringly of someone standing by their church as a sprititual center - it isn't about the pastor - its about the spirituality - the sense of belonging

"One of the biggest problems in modern American Christianity is the "church-hopping" phenomenon. People stay in churches for a certain period of time, get bored, find someplace new and repeat.

I am a perfect example of this problem. I've been part of a wonderful church for the past five years. But due to babies and health and inertia and occasional frustration with the church, Kim and I have been there rarely. We've both talked about the things that annoy us - we wish for more of this and more of that and so on and so forth.

We've had this discussion with two of our dear friends who are also part of the church. They understand the issues but they have taken a different approach. They have jumped into the middle of the church. This church, they've said, is their home. And the Bible, they say, calls them to be vibrant, vital parts of their church home, not people hovering on the outside.

They are right. Our church isn't perfect. No church is. But it is our spiritual home and we are blessed by it and we understand our job isn't to take and take and take from it but to give and give and give.

Barack Obama understands this approach. That is why he didn't just rip the church wily nilly. Lots of American Christians should use his faithfulness to his church as an example in their own lives.

He didn't forego his spiritual home for political convenience. Whether or not that is good politics is yet to be seen. That is is good spiritually should be applauded."

He is a man of principal
This may hurt him politically
But he is something different

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Thank you for this post.
I think he truly is our only "hope".
Yesterday was rough. Barack Obama has displayed how we can grow from pain and turn hatred into love and acceptance and yes, unity.

I think he truly is our only "hope".
Obama-Wan Kenobi.

Heh. Cute snark.

It struck me immediately that your first few paragraphs sound just like a preacher telling his flock not to lose faith in Jesus when times are bad.

Do you realize the religious language you are using? "Devoted" supporters? "Beloved" Barack?

Same day, same site, another poster, Obama suspiciously sounding like Jesus....

Of course you're fully entitled to voicing your opinions this way, just don't be insulted when others claim Obama supporters show "cult of personality" behavior.


"Of course you're fully entitled to voicing your opinions this way, just don't be insulted when others claim Obama supporters show "cult of personality" behavior."


Gee, thanks so much for your "permission"?!?!

I'm an Obama supporter, but I have to agree that "beloved" goes a bit far.

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artapraiser-

I am actully jewish and not very religious - so that's interesting that you say that (as a matter of fact I have to leave now to go to a bat mitvah in florida -- more the demographic of a hillart supporter!)

I used the word "beloved" because it started with a "B" and thought that was better writing using "B"-"B" -- aliteration in Grammar 101
- no ulterior motive

I don't see the words "supporter" or "devoted" as particularly "devout"

I do see the word "cult" as derogatory - so you made your point - just figured I'd explain mine


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As a former Edwards supporter who only recently joined Obama's cause, I can say that Obama is now our country's greatest hope, and more and more I'm persuaded of the depth of his character. The more I hear him, the more I like him. In fact, I prefer him to Edwards now. He needs his supporters to come forward - it's a crucial time in the campaign. If this is a cultist's view, then I plead guilty.

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Excellent reminder of why we need to elect this beautiful, compassionate, thoughtful man. I don't imagine this I KNOW this is our next president. We gotta keep our eyes on the ball and ignore those voices of hate and dissension, and see that this country comes together for the greater good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFlrJXTjXN4

Obama/??? 08

Obama/!!!!! 08

How people are judgmental about this man. They haven't even attended his church and they conclude that Rev. Wright is saying these things over and over for 20 years. Are they stupid?

I don't agree with some of what he said, but a lot of it is spot on.

If I were religious, I'd probably be going to Wright's sermons, finally a Christian that sounds Christian!

Here's another good diary on this weekend:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/15/203514/051/358/477634

THANKS!

You know what? Wright's position is the sane one. American blacks are one not-exceptionally-long lifetime from a time when they were routinely murdered for nothing but their blackness, or for looking the wrong way at a white woman.

One of the saddest stories of Mississippi Fred McDowell's visit to england in the sixties concerns his reaction: he was the lionized old bluesman from the delta, and after one of his first folk club dates, a young english girl spojntaneously gave him a hug and a peck on the cheek, much as she'd with her grandfather.

Only this time, Fred McDowell froze and went white as a ghost as soon as she touched him. He was nearly trembling. In the world he grew up, that was the kind of thing that could get black men killed by an angry white mob.

That's reality. That's the reality that Wright was born into, and spent his formative years living among. He didn't pick that; he was born into a society in which great effort was expended teaching him to think like that. Teaching him that black men can't look at white women. Teaching him that black folks have the right to vote but they better not use it. The USA has come a long way from that era, but people who were born in it, didn't come by their attitudes by accident.

These days in the USA, its fashionable to get all weepy at the PTSD your soldiers came home with from Vietnam; when 4th of July fireworks go off and some vet hits the deck screaming, Americans shake their heads sadly, and allowances are made.

I know that Wright was both a veteran and a marine, but what I want to say is that he didn't just do one or even two tours in Nam as the vets with PTSD did. He grew up in a war zone. Lived it, among people who'd also lived their entire lives in the same war zone, with the same experience of trauma and the same instincts.

And just like a vet who can't hear fireworks or an engine backfiring without freaking, Black americans of Wright's generation and earlier sometimes have and express similarly irrational reactions and beliefs.

Remember in the 70s, when all America wanted to do was to forget Vietnam? When Vietnam vets couldn't get anyone to even discuss--let alone accomodate--their memories and their reactions of the war? Before Springsteen wrote Born in the USA; before Taxi Driver, or The Deerhunter, or even Apocalypse Now. LONG before Platoon. The vietnam war was an american defeat, and that was a painful, even humiliating thought for patriotic Americans. What was nearly a society-wide conspiracy of silence took hold, and veterans with PTSD suffered alone. The American defeat, and the shattered heroes were taboo topics. Sly Stallone, who'd never been to Nam, rewrote history in films in which he single-handedly won the war.

That's where black america is right now. Whites like yourself don't want to hear about race or organized racism. It's bad taste to mention Jim Crow, let alone Colonel Lynch, 'strange fruit', or even slavery. It's playing the race card. It's hate, unquote.

Only it all happened, and the people it happened to were marked by it. Indelibly. Marking people was, after all, the whole point of Jim Crow. GIs who came back from Nam or Iraq with PTSD were marked by accident; no one was trying to send them a message; they just ended up in a sh!tty place and learned a bad message regardless. Black americans of Wright's generation or above were deliberately taught that they were inferior, that they'd never be president, that America wasn't their nation and America didn't really include them.

And sometimes it comes out, regardless of how many white Americans scream "shut up shut up shut up!" about it. It boils to the surface, because you don't forget that stuff; it's as irrational as a vietnam vet breaking into a cold sweat or a panic attack when he hears a chopper.

I don't know about you, but I'm a child of children of the depression. My parents were born in the early twenties, and went through the depression as teens. I've worked a lot in social services directed at this generation. Unlike their kids (the boomers) many of them saved til the end of their days; repaired everything instead of throwing it out; didn't waste food; mended or made do; didn't buy on credit. The lessons they learned in the lean decade after 1929 are all still there; for many it followed them to the grave.

So when a septagenarian starts hoarding--hoarding meat, for instance, meat he isn't even able to cook--we don't scream "Shut up!" at him. We know why he's doing it, even though it's both disgusting and a health risk for the people in the next apartment. Yes, this is behaviour that can't go on, and some social worker or building manager is going to have tackle the problem and clean out his apartment. But we know that he's doing this because at one time in his childhood, people around him went in fear of starving. And six decades later he can't forget it.

That's Wright, and all the black americans of his generation or older. They lived it; it was real. And sometimes, that programming slips out.

At which point people scold them for it; call them haters or bigots, poverty-pimps or perpetual victims. Don't they know it's OVER? Don't they know it's bad taste to talk about that stuff? Don't they understand that white people are fed up with the endless guilt tripping and recriminations? Why can't these people just forget it and move on with their lives? Are they EVER going to stop crying?

Sound familiar? That's what hurt vietnam vets so much, until American began to get over the loss and the humiliation and began being able to treat them with compassion. It's the same damn thing.

Great comments, S1mOn. It really wasn't that long ago when a child, Emmit Till, was savagely beaten to death in Mississippi for the egregious crime of making a fresh comment to a white woman in public. And the perpetrators were acquitted. Quickly. Easily.

During Jim Crow, African Americans were victims of terrorism, and our government did nothing to protect them. Most whites considered it tolerable or even acceptable. And terrorism is still being practiced--the shocking tolerance in the white community of Jena, LA for white students using the symbolic noose hanging from a schoolyard tree in order to threaten black students. It shouldn't be shocking that human beings who have lived with generations of socially- and politically-accepted terrorism would be angry with their country.

PTSD is a great way to look at this.

Well put S1mOn. I think Wright's comments should be discussed in he broader context that you describe. I think comedy has done that for a long time, but it's not alright to talk about such things seriously . I'm glad you brought up the PTSD point of view because often I feel racist comments should not be tolerated, but perhaps I should be more compassionate and think about the historical context. I still abhor anyone saying things that are patently disparaging of another group of people, but ignoring these comments is not a solution. I think Obama is handling his relationship with his pastor and his campaign as well as anyone could expect. I'm glad to have him as a candidate for president.

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Here! Here! Well said!

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Great post, Simon Outstanding analysis.

The only point I would add is that folks seem to think that Obama was absorbing and being indoctrinated with the anger and frustration that Wright expressed.

He wasn't, he could see through it, understand the source and it serves as a profound motivation to transcend it. The brillance of Obama is that he is not only a good listener but he can synthesize information and create a plan to get beyond the problem and resolve the issues so that they do not continue to tear this nation and Americans apart to the point that we are unable to tackle the issues that we have in common.

Like healthcare, the economy, jobs and ending the war.

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Our objective is to have a Democratic President, and a President Obama or President Clinton is less important. This country is in a recession created by the economic policies of the Bush Administration. Clearly, McCain is an economic Neaderthal and does not possess the understanding of economics that can equip him for the Presidency. A President Clinton or President Obama can do better for us. This is an imperative.

Now if McCain picks Romney as VP what does that do for the likelihood of a Clinton Obama or Obama Clinton ticket? Or if Dems pick such a ticket what does that do to make McCain pick Romney.

McCain is already campaigning. We dont need our two candidates to hack each other apart. We need to have a candidate on the verge of campaigning creating a foreign policy confrence and economic policy confrence. Dems need to show they have a plan which can bring America out of recession.

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See, I disagree... I think there is a HUGE difference between a President Clinton and a President Obama. Neither are just "generic" Democrats.

I think we can safely say is that a vote for Clinton is a return to the same divisive politics of her husband. The smoke and mirrors, say one thing and do another. (We have seen it in her campaigning.)

I think we can also say that a President Obama will be markedly different. I think we will se a willingness for Republicans to work with him in a way that they will not come together with Clinton.

I think we need to decide whether we want to spend the next 4 years in political gridlock if Clinton is in the White House -- again.

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DITTO!! Jade, you are right there is a HUGE differnce.

It boils down to character, integrity, honest and what each will do on the basis of character.

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Gragnani,

I pondered the same thing about McCain picking Romney and how would that strengthen the ticket. I do not see how it does. McCain does not appeal to the core GOP base of evangelicals and Romney appeals to them even less. McCain is a straight shooter whose strength appears to be war in perpetuity but who does not have the same social value fanatacism of the right wing conservatives. Then Romney has the 'strange faith' and track record of waffling on social values but is strong on the fiscal management. These do not seem to be attributes that will appeal to the GOP base, but are likely to appeal to Wall Street.

So, it doesn't seem to be a particularly strong ticket to me. You can't have war in perpetuity and strengthen the economy the two are diametrically opposed. Folks on Wall Street who Romney would appeal to know this.

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Great post. I am impressed by how the Chicago papers were impressed. They know him best and endorse him.

Great post!

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Alison

I really enjoyed reading your message. It was very uplifting and timely. I especially liked how you re-focused us on our goal. It it so easy when working for something to get lost and feel despair as we encounter the obstacles and challenges along the way.

Your post rejuvenated and reaffirmed what we are working for and gave us the hope to keep moving forward and not forget what it is we believe in.

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Great Post.

But I want to say. He is just human with all the faults that come with being human. He will make mistakes and I do not believe he should be put up on a pedestal.

What I like about him is that he is smart, he is passionate about not being divided. He has a vision that it will take ALL of us to move forward.

Can anyone doubt that this country is floundering? And separate we will not be able to do anything. Our strength is all of us. We'll have to work together from bottom to top to change direction so that our children can have a better world. I don't believe that Senator Obama will fix everything, but I believe he can put us on the road there.

I just hope that we, the people, are up to the challenge.

Peace

Amen to that!

The daily tracking polls suggest that Obama handled the Wright thing decently by Friday. He blipped down, but his lead over Hillary, which had been fairly decisive (6-8%), stabilized at 2-3% in Gallup and Rasmussen. He is trending a little behind McCain (see Gallup), but I ascribe that more to the Clinton campaign's successful mobilization of fake Democrats behind Gerry Ferraro's hate speech.

Wright's remarks will be used in the fall by 527s and conservative hate radio to hold down Obama's crossovers. Unfortunately, we have some Dems who basically won't vote for a black man (he leaks more of the base than Hillary), so we need the crossovers. Fortunately from a tactical standpoint, McCain has sought and received the embrace of a man who has vilified Catholicism, which will be brought up in response if Wright's remarks get heavy play.

Obama finally dealt well with Rezko this week, which is great, as the Chicago media was the only group doing much with it. It's good to get the Wright thing out this week, long before PA. The timing could be good for us in the long term, since it was going to happen.

I hope the Democratic blogosphere gets that we really need Republicans and independents this fall. We need to be talking positively in our lives and online to these folks. (They'll decide the election, not the tiny wedge of pissy folks who desert Obama and the party because they didn't get their way in the primaries, and get all amped up for Gerry Ferraro.)

So when it comes to Wright, like any other issue that gets raised, I suggest to the group that we all please keep that in mind.

I just don't see it.
I hear Obama and hear empty and careful rhetoric.
He just doesn't resonate for me, but I seem to be one of the few.
Hillary really doesn't resonate with me either but I have a tendancy towards feeling compassion towards anyone or anything so consistantly under attack!
I get tired of Obama supporters defending the indefensable in Rev. Wright. and some of the truly offensive statements made by Michelle Obama.
Obama supporters seem to be sending the signal that ANYTHING that come out of the Obama camp is right, no matter what. I find that kind of blind devotion troubling.

Perhaps the gap is in what you consider indefensible versus what others think is acceptable.

Any thoughts or points to back it up? Otherwise all I hear is you Obama supporters are wrong, and I am right.

Clinton/Victim '08

You know what I am right about?
The fact that each one of these accusations and insults that fly from camp to camp have to be looked at objectively!
You can no more say that everything Obama stands for is good and everything Clinton stands for is bad than you can do the opposite!
I am not , and have stated before that I am not, disposed to be a Clinton supporter BUT I am tired of the relentless badgering from camp Obama! I don't blame him personally for it but it should stop or the Party will not come together in time to defeat the Republicans.
Rev. Wright is in the wrong and it should not pain the Obama camp so much to admit that.
But it seems to!

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Whatever else Obama is, or is not, he is the candidate with the real baggage now. He is the candidate that is most controversial and divisive. Hillary can't compete with him on that score. He may be too polarizing to win the general election, and I hope the voters in the remaining primaries recognize this reality. I am sure some of the super-delegates already have. At this moment in time, things look quite good for McCain. The last polls I've seen show another disturbing reality. The Clinton supporters are much LESS likely to move behind Obama than the Obama supporters are to get behind Hillary. The difference was six or seven percent. Many of these conservative and moderate Democrats have indicated they will move over to McCain. Too many Obama supporters are fixated on delegates and getting the nomination, almost as if THAT were the real election. This short-sightedness may cost us. This whole process has been about getting a Democrat in the White House, nothing else. When you break it down, looking at all the elements from purple state support to Clinton backers vs. Obama backers, Hillary appears to be the more solid horse in the
race. The important race, to reach the White House.

It might help if you had a little bit of substance to back up your argument.

I do agree that it is rather sad that HRC supporters will not back Obama, but I am on the fence in terms of supporting Hillary, so I understand the need to question.

The question is: why do HRC supporters not want to back Obama? Is it because he is black? Is that his baggage? Is he divisive because white people (HRC supporters) can't vote for a black man?

Primary does not equal GE

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There are multiple reasons why folks attend a particular church and, although the less informed or more religiously dogmatic voter will not recognize this in themselves or in their congregation, they are not the voters that Obama will attract anyway...

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Hako:
you reveal your support for Sen McCain in your post thereby it is understandable that you want Sen Clinton to be the candidate

One of the things I have been thinking about is why Fox News is so aggressively trying to get Sen Obama out of the race at this stage? Why not save this all out assault on Sen Obama until the general election?

The answer is pretty simple: Fox News as most republican strategists want to run against Hillary Clinton --

They want to run against Sen Clinton for all the obvious reasons that she energizes the republican base but also look at this in terms of "turn out" for the Nov Election

On the republican side, look at the turn out generated by Sen Clinton --
On the democratic side, look at the depressed turn out generated if Sen Clinton gains the nomination through some political machinations which at this point - is the only way
For independents: this has always been a contest between Sen Obama and McCain

Combine fewer democrats at the polls with more republicans and the root of the FOX/Republican strategy becomes crystal clear --

What we are seeing is the republican general election strategy -- odds are they know a lot more about the Clinton library donors and the archived sealed records than any of us do --

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