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Shocked, shocked to find such anger in the black church!

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The discussion of Rev. Wright's sermon clips (not his sermons; just a few soundbites, remember) has highlighted for me how one-sided our so-called "discussions" of race often are.  We would be so much better off if we had more black representation in the media, in the commentariat, in the blogosphere (not to mention, in other positions of power).  The whole Rev. Wright issue is being presented from the perspective of isolated white folk -- shocked, shocked to find such anger in the black community! 

Rev. Wright's sermons play very differently in the black community.  Particularly for the older generation.  There is a lot to be angry about.  It's way better to express it than to bottle it up.  Then you can start to deal with it, to take constructive action.  Hell, if I was black, I think I'd be at least that angry.  Being white, I have the luxury of being philosophical and judgmental if I want to.

Meanwhile, as a Chicagoan, I know that Trinity UCC is a church with an excellent reputation for constructive work in its community -- the black south side of Chicago.  It is full of smart, constructive, social-justice minded folks, leaders in the black community in Chicago and beyond, leaders in business and politics and entertainment.  Trinity builds strong, community minded leaders.

Let's look at what Obama has become, after 20 years in that church: an amazingly unifying leader, bringing people together across racial, ethnic, age, and political divisions.  From his earliest public life, as an organizer, as a state senator, in the Democratic convention speech, in his first book, written before his political career, as well as in his second book, written as a part of his political career, Obama is clear about his approach:  he wants to unify us as Americans and help us live up to our highest ideals.

My favorite example of his unifying spirit at the moment is the old white working class, small town Wisconsin man who was asked by NPR who he was going to vote for in the primary.  He said, "I think I'm going to vote for that black boy.  He makes a lot of sense." (or words to that effect)

As a white woman who can recall being chewed out years ago as a camp counselor for referring to a ten year old black kid as a boy, I cringed when I heard that -- and then I smiled, because I suspect Barack smiled when he heard it too.  He is helping us transcend a whole era in race relations, move into a new period where we can have a new level of conversation about what we want our society to be.

Not an era that will be post-racial politics-- let's not kid ourselves.  But one in which the conversation will have progressed from the anger of Rev. Wright's generation.  Perhaps if we are lucky to a place where we can discuss substance rather than just react and react and react from places of mutual ignorance and pain.

I felt excruciating pain watching Barack denounce his pastor on CNN last night, and overwhelming admiration at his ability to remain calm and true to his high ideals, even when attacked in a very personal way.  When Anderson Cooper asked at the end whether Obama could sing God Bless America or not, I was so offended for Barack I would have happily throttled Cooper.  But Barack only smiled and said that he didn't think Anderson would want to hear him singing, defusing the tension with what looked like an easy smile (although it couldn't have been easy).

This is my defnition of a leader, guys.  He's taking us to a new place, a place we didn't even quite know was there before he pointed it out, a place some of us haven't quite been able to believe in yet.  He's calling forth the best in everyone-- including the black community.  I can't imagine watching Anderson Cooper's self-righteous arrogance last night if I was a young African-American and not wanting to smash the TV (I'm a middle-aged white woman, and I wanted to smash the TV)-- but Barack is showing us all a different path, leading us from the angry path (quite literally, in the case of Rev. Wright) to higher ground.

So, after much agony over this whole episode, here is what I think.  Anyone who thought we would get through this campaign without some excruciating discussion of race was naive.  And this is it.  The question is, how will Obama handle it, and how will we, his supporters and potential supporters, handle it.

Obama, I think, is coming through well in his response.  I do not think anyone can ask ever again if he is tough enough.  The question then is, are we tough enough?  Will we let the white media crucify him?  Will we run in fear to another candidate so that we never have to discuss race this frankly again?  Will we tsk, tsk, and watch silently to see what happens next? 

Or will we stand up for the man who has spent his whole public career defining a new approach the things that divide us, a new way to move us toward the vision of an America that tries to live up to its ideals, rather than make excuses for why it isn't possible.  Yes we can.


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Not an era that will be post-racial politics-- let's not kid ourselves. But one in which the conversation will have progressed from the anger of Rev. Wright's generation. Perhaps if we are lucky to a place where we can discuss substance rather than just react and react and react from places of mutual ignorance and pain.

What many forget is that this transition will be neither instantaneous nor uniform in its occurrence. It will happen one mind, one heart, one worldview at a time, and from those evolving individuals, it will spread outwards, slowly at first, and, we can hope, with gradually increasing effect, much as a positive chain reaction.

And we'd also best not forget that there will be pushback. Hard. The reactionary side deploys a wide array of forces against change, for their own reasons.

Still, there is hope, and I do see many younger people simply not getting as exercised as their elders about many things. This is not the end-state, not yet, it is just a good stop on the way.

I don't think anybody is "shocked" to find there is anger. I think many people are rightly offended by the ignorance and utter bullshit that Wright has been shown to spew. OK, so I'm really just speaking for myself. But still. ;^}

In your honest opinion, aside from Wright's rhetoric which is absolutely counterproductive, are these not legitimate complaints?

1. That african-Americans are punished more severely for the same or similar crimes than whites?

2. That the radicalisation of the current generation of islamist terrorists was to some degree a result of U.S. foreign policy and decades-long interference with sovereignity of the people of the Middle-East?

3. That the country has historically been and still is run by the wealthy?

4. That the country has historically been and still is run without proportional representation of the minorities starting with the Native Americans?

You can never, ever allow the right wing to brand these thoughts as unpatriotic. Not even if you feel it helps your candidate in the short run.

Maybe you can find a little empathy for the man, no?

I find at least a few, (and those few too many) very ready to believe the worst of an African-American. They perhaps feel that because of mistreatment, blacks may someday revolt. They feel that if one was in the same church as some firebrand espousing denigration of our perfect moral scorecard, then that African-American must secretly harbor disloyal feelings. Such a man must surely be a dangerous fifth-columnist ready to subvert our institutions.

I do not accept anybody's protests that Wright's sentiments are unacceptable, as long as the protestor is white. Let Bob Johnston of BET say, it, perhaps. But let the white majority shut the hell up. We will hear enough from McCain's camp, who actively sought the endorsement of a true wacko, Rev. Hagee.

Wright is merely bitter. Hagee is demented.

And leave my name out of this, huh? Starting to wear on me.

I do not accept that one's skin color should exempt them from criticising insanity when it rears it's ugly head.

Wright may be bitter, but if he actually believes the government invented HIV to kill off all the people of color then he is also demented.

And let Bob Johnson say it? Yeah, sure, how'd that work out last time?

Yeah, that comment is quite ignorant. But, as usual, it does not automatically invalidate everything he says as I mention above.

The HIV comment allows us to put this thing in perspective, too.

First, most people in the United States would fully condone the church's basic function without question. Indeed, most of the population of the United States shares the Trinity Church's belief in the Magical Sky Daddy that no-one has ever seen and are prepared to live their lives according to arbitrary standards set thousands of years ago for a nomadic tribe.

In comparison with that an allegation of a government conspiracy to test biochemical warfare, which has caused no-one to take some type of radical action, seems rather tame.

Yet the first is accepted without question, nay, hailed as a virtue.

This is one fucked up world, loki.

Oh, and if I offended someone, I am terribly not sorry at all. Live by reality, die by reality.

While their isn't evidence to prove Wright's HIV assertion, things like the Tuskegee Experiment don't instill trust in the government among certain African Americans.

Let us also remember our nation hasn't spent billions on biological warfare out of a sense of compassion for our fellow man.

Is it demented to think that those who have systematically murdered and oppressed would undertake such an action like trying to create a virus to wipe out certain ethnic groups?

South Africa tried to do exactly that during apartheid. What was the difference between the US and South Africa up until the 70s? Not a lot.

While I don't agree with some of what Wright has said, I cannot pretend to believe our nation is innocent of acting in intentionally harmful ways towards persons of color.

"While there" :)

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the writer says: "Let's look at what Obama has become, after 20 years in that church: an amazingly unifying leader, bringing people together across racial, ethnic, age, and political divisions."

um, what election have you been following? I've voted Democratic since McGovern in 1972 and this is the most bitter, divisive primary campaign I can remember. and as much as I'm sure you'd like to blame it all on HRC, that's simply not the case.

there's a disconnect in this country about "racism" and here's why, IMHO: some people see racism everywhere, which dilutes the ability to deal with REAL racism. and a lot of white people are fed up with being blamed for things that are a) not their fault, or b) not real.

for example, maybe one of the reasons so many young black men are in jail is because they commit so many more crimes than young white men. maybe the way to change that is to look at the root causes of why that is, and work to change them, as people like Bill Cosby have advocated.

as long as we liberal, latte-drinking whiteys claim that it's all because of racism, we don't work toward resolving the real problem.

Sorry, gretz, but who are you arguing against?

This may be an unfair characterisation and I would be happy to have you correct me, but you seem to be one of the many white people who feel put-upon. At the very least you can clearly relate to these people. Would you be able to explain what makes them feel like they are being blamed for something?

See, I honestly do not understand it. It is one thing if I am at the grocery store and some guy starts accosting me because he thinks my ancestors were slavers (which would be a deliciously ironic accusation but that aside) and no matter what you say he does not believe you. I can understand how that would be hurtful.

But does that actually happen that much?

I get the feeling that most of these things causing blame come through the TV, media or otherwise, not directly aimed at the person getting upset and I just cannot relate to how some random guy talking sense or nonsense on TV directly causes someone to have such strong emotions like feeling unfairly blamed for something.

"White guilt" is a very fashionable term recently, but as is often the case with fashionable terms, it is usually misused. "White guilt" is what you are talking about. It is not feeling guilt but feeling like you are supposed to be feeling guilty and it is generally . Its specific characteristic is the feeling of being unfairly accused of something that you, directly, are not being accused of.

Unfortunately, I do not really have a solution for those people but to try to use self-reflection and maybe mull over this:

Being white in America is not an automatic ticket to happiness, wealth and success. But, broadly, being born black in America is still one step behind that. It is the truth. Individual circumstances will always vary but for discussions like this we can only address large, statistically significant swaths of populations.

You have to just let it go and accept that sometimes people get oversensitive and there are overreachings to both directions. Huddling up and getting defensive is not a solution.

In this matter, just like life in general, you have to accept a couple knocks to get over the hill. And yes, it is your responsibility to help in that just as it is mine and everyone else's.

Anyway.

To address a couple of your specific points regarding black men in jail: Wright, for example, never said it was racism, only that it happened and that it was a grave injustice.

Lots of black youth being in prison is not a problem of racism right now and no-one is claiming it is (individual cases exist, I am sure.)

It is a problem in great part caused by past racial injustices and in reality, it is mostly an economic boundary, not racial--it just so happens that black people are disproportionately poorer.

...and in reality, it is mostly an economic boundary, not racial--it just so happens that black people are disproportionately poorer.

I also suspect that the large majority of white people currently incarcerated is also drawn from somewhere further down the economic ladder than, say, the "managerial class" and its equivalent.

It only takes the police throwing you to the ground, accussing you of trying to rob a store, carrying a weapon and carrying drugs to realize that all of Rev. Wright's statements aren't all of the mark. Yes! some of his statements are crazy; but no more crazy than being beat by the police.

Oh, I was walking home after casting my presidential ballot that unfortunate evening without a gun or drugs and I certainly wasn't trying to rob a store.

I thought I was crazy because this didn't really happen in the United States. It was a myth. After I was allowed to get up off the ground, I knew what black meant in the United States.

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roo P, I actually agree with just about everything you've said.

I DO think it's about white guilt, and I think a large part of the Obama vote is people who, as one of the TV talking heads put it, like to pretend that he's "the hip black friend they don't really have."

I do get frustrated when writers like the one who wrote the article we're discussing seem to give Obama a free pass where they wouldn't do so for Hillary Clinton.

one thing tho: I don't know where you are, but I live in a liberal bastion of a college town and I hear suggestions that racism is the root of black men being imprisoned ALL THE TIME. however, I appreciate your viewpoint--perhaps I need to get out of my little enclave more.

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Hello,

I posted the following comment elsewhere on this site, but I offer it here as I am an African-American female who attended Trinity.

I am writing to offer a perspective on this situation that I hope will provide some insight.
I was a member of Trinity United Church of Christ for over twenty years, and I attended regularly until I relocated, several years ago. I have a large collection of sermons preached by Rev. Wright that span the 20+ years I attended. The clips that are getting played across the Internet represent a few minutes extracted out of thousands of minutes of sermon footage. Here’s what I would hope the readers of this forum will consider:

In the African-American worship tradition and experience, the black pulpit is a symbol of freedom and catharsis. Congregants, many of whom have experienced more nuanced but still painful instances of racism during the week, are set free. Worshippers experience this freedom vicariously in the freedom of the preacher. When I attended Trinity and heard the sermons preached by Rev. Wright, I heard his words in context. I therefore clearly understood (and I believe most who attended understood) that his messages gave voice to very real pain experienced by older and not-so-old African Americans. Most important of all, his sermons did and do offer hope that by coming to know Jesus’ example as a healer and liberator, we would be inspired to follow the example, go out into the world, reach out to others, and work to bring about change in our communities, cities, and country.
When I left church after service, I wasn’t filled with hatred or venom towards anyone. I was usually hungry, in search of a decent meal, and ready to get on with whatever the week was to bring. Trinity’s members certainly possess the ability to make the distinction between hyperbole and homily. Knowing what I do about the church firsthand, I understand why Mr. Obama did not cut ties to the church—his experience at Trinity (and mine) was simply not what some in the media and the political arena are trying to portray.

I do believe that more African-Americans need to participate in discussions such as this one via blogging,and I hope my comments are helpfl.

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Rita, Thanks for the comment. This is the voice of reason and fact that I wish the media would cover rather than just jumping to the worst possible conclusions.

And of course virtually everyone who is grilling Obama in the media (and most of the blogosphere)is white and is either ignorant of cultural differences or pretending to be ignorant of cultural differences (can they really be that ignorant?). With only a handful of exceptions that I saw (though I admit, I could only bear to watch a bit of the cable shows, it was too infuriating). Surprisingly, David Gergen was a much more perceptive commentator that just about anyone else I saw.

"...ignorant of cultural differences..."

All it requires is not being steeped in a particular milieu. In any arena, there are things that "outsiders" do not see.

As much as I try to get "out in the world" I know I am living a pretty Midwestern life - albeit an urban Midwestern life. And yet I am stunned to find out how much more insular the life experiences of many of my fellow Americans are compared to mine.

Lest you think this is particular only to Americans, it is not. Friends from overseas regularly ask questions about things that I simply regard as facts of life. Maybe the difference is in their bothering to ask in the first place - we Americans tend to be an incurious lot.

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