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"Elected officials are the image of the people they represent" Gov Paterson, May 17 2008.


"If you don't like the people, dissove them and elect the new one" Bertold Brecht, 1953

 
Do you want a Democrat in the White House?


If you do, let's admit the stark truth (in the midst of our mutual vitriol): there is no all-out winner in this nomination. Neither will win in a landslide. The winner will have the votes cast on the convention floor, but the nomination will come without an overwhelming unified mandade.

So if we want to win, let's remember that divided we'll fall.

If we think only about the votes cast in the contests so far, Obama and Clinton each represents roughly half of the party (discounting the crossover vote, the primary vs caucus argument, and similar reality-altering details).

This should tell us a thing or two about who we really are as a party going into the general.

We can pretend that this doesn't matter. We can shrug it off and hope that the other side will come around, if our candidate is the nominee. We can withdraw to our spacious echochambers. We can look for fresh evidence in the "opposition research" to reinforce the talking points.

Or, we can recognize that this nomination is bigger than Clinton as it is bigger than Obama.

There are several ways we can analyize the primaries. So far we have done it by discussing and defending the character, record and qualifications of our candidates. But there is another way.

Historically, roughly 40% of Democrats identify themselves as liberal or liberal-leaning. Roughly 60% identify themselves as working class, low income, etc. The way the cards fell in this nomination, Sen. Obama attracted the former and Sen. Clinton the latter. Obama used the netroots to mobilize new voter registration, so it's very possible that this balance has shifted. We don't know by how much and we don't know how reliable the new voters are, but they are there for Democrats.

So, it's clear that that both Obama and Clinton represent two different constituencies within our party and that the candidates are now positioning their campaigns to reinforce these constituencies and make inroads into each other's.

Let's remember, too, that our nominee (whoever it is) will be running against a Republican. It's tempting to shrug them off as broken and unelectable, and our party has done it many many times before, only to pay the price for being unprepared.

I would be great if we could come together in one big happy family. We could at least try to find a way to co-exist.

But since this nomination is now entering its most painful phase, with risks and consequences either way, I think it's vital that we continue to talk each other and not get too distructed by the trolls.


Comments (4)

I think what you've said is very true.

Regardless of who wins the nomination, one candidate is going to need the support and ACTIVE participation of the other's base.

While our choices for that candidate to lead America differs, our ultimate goal is the same. We NEED a Democrat in the White House. We NEED Democrats in the House of Representative. We NEED more Democrats in the Senate. We NEED to get more Moderates and Liberals in the Supreme Court.

The venom that is spewed forth from both sides in this great decision NEEDS to be directed at McCain who is getting a free ride for the next few months.

And whoever wins, whatever the outcome, we NEED to remember we're all Democrats (except the occasional trolls).

Democrats '08

"Historically, roughly 40% of Democrats identify themselves as liberal or liberal-leaning. Roughly 60% identify themselves as working class, low income, etc."

Are you saying one must be liberal to make or have money? News to me.

I assume the rest of the DEMS are just white trash or poor blacks or whites and of course they're for Clinton, unless they're black who vote exclusively for Obama.

You start with ideology for 40% of DEMS then economic status for the remaining 60% DEMS.

You are right. I should have corrected it to 40% professionals and 60% working class, low income, etc. Sorry

You speak wisely here. I'd much prefer looking at the Democratic contest as a race for the top of the ticket. We all win if they join forces.


P.S. I am NOT a troll. I am just new at putting my thoughts out there. I apologize in advance for violating the customs . I just don't know them all yet.

I've been a loyal reader of TPM for years, gave Josh $$ when he needed it to build his site, and hire staff etc. and only came to commenting recently because I have been so distressed by the Hillary hating that erupted here.

My desire for this peaceful out come, that you seem to be suggesting in your post, is what has made me overcome my natural inclination to keep my thoughts to myself.

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