I'm sorry but I represent an annoying segment of the population and I have a duty to help them annoy people up through the convention. Onward to Denver!

GO NADER!!!!!!!!!!

This has been the best post that I have read anywhere.

Too funny.

As a whinny Obama supporter, I can only laugh in half-hearted (you know which half) agreement.

Thanks.

"My dad is better than your dad. He's got eight cars and a house in Ireland. SING IT!"
-McClusky

I feel your pain.

Where is Al Gore?

So you want all those people who are lately involved in the political system - many for the first time, to simply go away?

I have it! Let's go back to w, cheney, chickenhawk & co.s way of by-passing the majority of Americans...

I think not!

If you are going to trash Hillary, at least use verifiable facts. Her supporters said "Yes she WILL" which is in line with her message and her argument. It is not enough to hope, which is what "Yes we CAN" represents. You must be able to deliver. There is a difference between can and will. It isn't subtle. It is a core difference in philosophy.

I am not an Obama supporter and have no great enthusiasm for him. He's far too cozy with the centers of corporate power in this country, he's voted to fund the wars consistently, his medical insurance plan is just that--a plan to put money into the private insurance companies when it's obvious that we need a single-payer plan akin to those in Western European countries. That said, he did oppose the war in Iraq, and could vote for him, albeit without great enthusiasm. Hillary, however, is consistently on the side of the monied interests, has a steady and consistent history of war enthusiasm, has a career of showing interest in little except her career. I could not vote for her. If she is nominated, I will vote for Nader instead, or for some similar alternative. This is not a case of a pouting Obama supporter saying that I will take my ball and go home. It simply is thus: I could vote for Obama, although without enthusiams, but I could not vote for Hillary. She's far too similar to McCain. Even she said so.

cscs, you have outdone yourself! This thread could actually go on and on with arguments back and forth, just like the good ole days of the ole Cafe!

Yes, cscs, you have revived the soul of the Cafe.

I salute you!!!! Go ahead and disagree if you like, but I love this post!

Go-Bama!!! ♪♪♪

And blessed be the Peacemakers!!! ♪♪♪

I think both sides can unite over this insult. Our dual-cultism must be acknowledged and respected!

I do agree, as an Obamalamaramabamamaniac, that the talk of switching to Nader or not voting or sulking so hard you vote for McCain isn't acceptable. We don't want four to eight more years of right-wing Supreme Court appointees, 100 to 1,000 more years in Iraq, a few more wars, a president supported by corporate lobbyists, etc.

Are you sure knitting is popular? I don't want an unpopular hobby.

I live with a won't-vote-for-the-bitch person and it's frustrating. I think a lot of Hillary supporters--the women--will vote for whomever gets the nomination because they will remember what's really at stake: the Supreme Court. One more conservative justice will lurch the court rightwards for another fifty years and will sink abortion rights. I hope the Obama supporters will remember this, too, but maybe a lot of them are too young or pissed to remember that to liberals (including me), Bill Clinton seemed like a disaster, too. He was a triangulating capitulator just like his wife. It took Bush for me to realize that a disastrous Democrat wasn't so bad after all.
The perfect is the enemy of the good. I'm pulling for Obama, but I'm not ruling out voting for a pet rock, if that's what wins the Democratic nomination.

That, sir, is a sexist insult. May I challenge you to a duel?

I agree. Both candidates' supporters should just shut up and let Rahm Emmanuel pick the Democratic candidate.

Seriously though, we are on the verge of seeing the first woman or the first non-white President in our history. Why shouldn't the process be a difficult one? Let it play out, and let the candidate with the most committed delegates at the end of the process be the nominee.

A drawn-out political fight between two excellent candidates, each with their own rabid group of supporters, is not going to destroy America. The majority of Americans is going to take a good look at John McCain (and his stated goal to prolong the Bush/Cheney presidency and all that it stands for) in November, and overwhlemingly vote for the Democratic candidate, no matter who it is.

WHY WON'T THE CLINTON'S RELEASE THEIR TAX RETURNS AND QUIT THE STONEWALLING ON THE RELEASE OF THEIR PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY RECORDS?

Hillary indicated to Tim Russert of MSNBC, in the last debate, she was "working on it". She then went on to blame Bush for holding up the progress of her ability to release the records of her time as first lady. Bush's press secretary responded the very next day, that Clinton has not yet turned them over to the administration?!

So, once again, the question.... WHY?
Hillary's cat and mouse game has run it's course. This speaks directly to her arrogance and credibility. It makes anyone with an ounce of sense, revisit the old Clinton baggage of Vince Foster, Whitewater and Lewinsky.

THE MEDIA NEEDS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! No more softball pandering to Hillary on this count.

By the way, I thought Terry-Thomas was dead.

re the op: word.

TPM should stick to Investigative Reporting where it excells because it really sucks as a political site.

No Shi%! But none the less I like their efforts, it is just funny how both crowds complain about unfairness in coverage while drowning out the continued abuse of the US by GWB. God he is really smart, I betcha he knew that his ratings would improve as the Democratic race slogged on and on. Did you hear that GWB and John are going to have a jamboree with tents, marshmellow and weenies on the WH lawn with Larry, Tom, Dick and the gang tonight!

i believe the republicans have been influencing our primary all along. they have stated they were voting for OBAMA because they thought he was the weaker candidate. if rush can make the 80% who have previously supported OBAMA switch sides to clinton that easily why do you think he lost last night. these same 80% will be voting for macain in the general election. don't be fooled to think republicans are NOT voting...they are but their numbers are boosting democratic turnout that WON’T be there in the general election. i still believe HILLARY has the majority of REAL democrats or people who really do plan to vote for a DEMOCRATIC nominee this fall.

Stop-Clinton movement takes root
“Obamacans,” as the campaign likes to call its Republican supporters, offer a variety of reasons for turning out for Obama, not the least of them a lack of interest in the Republican primary now that Sen. John McCain of Arizona has all but wrapped up his party’s nomination. Others say they genuinely think Obama is the best candidate for change.

But a significant proportion say they are temporarily backing Obama for strategic reasons. They plan to vote Republican in November, but for now, their goal is to try to make sure Clinton cannot win.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23394070/

I hate knitting. I suggest all political junkies learn to sew, make pants suits for each candidate, and wait to see if any actually wear them.

"Anything, anything but your insistent and continual droning on and on about how perfect your candidate is."

Can I talk about how messed up my candidate's opponent is?

I'd wait to take up knitting until after the economic stimulus package goes through. Then we can take up loom weaving instead.

Teh funny, cscs.

I think Ma creme would be a more acceptable hobby for such liberal minded thinkers as ourselves. it requires the use of hemp,a natural fiber, to create a variety of useful and beautiful plant hangers, hanging tables and even hanging chairs.

Any thoughts?

Yeah, I agree. I just decided to join a Buddhist monastery. Then I will defrock after Obama wins the nomination. See ya. But...how will I know? Never mind.

Frankly - the future of this Republic is actually engagement and participation - which had been sadly lacking for decades. So I'll take & be annoying - over the apathy that was an embarrassment to the world's wealthiest, most powerful democracies.

I just have to say that outside of the original post, this:

Never pay serious attention to someone who doesn't know how to use apostrophes.

And no, don't know the URL.

I'm sure this is all in good fun, but really there are some serious issues that need to be addressed by BOTH campaigns.... chief among them being the fact that I LIKE PIE.

There, I said it.

Or maybe instead of knitting, we could possibly pay attention to something else going on in Washington that has direct impact on all of our rights. The wiretap immunity that is about to be passed by the spineless jellyfish we call our democratic congress.

I heard on Thom Hartmann that they don't even read the mass emails sent to them by this or that advocacy group. But they do respond to phone calls.

While we have been diverted with this campaign our civil liberties are being abused yet again.

So folks, lets channel our anger for the greater good.

Phone listings your senator:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

For you representative:
http://clerk.house.gov/member_info/mcapdir.html

Afterward, maybe I can get around to making that Afghan blanket. :)

"Shigh, Remy, this isn't the thread for that (though I agree)."

Gee Bat,

IT WAS A MISTAKE........no need to be a condescending jerk**f! Knock it off!

Wow. Awesome power.

Front page.

Also, got an email telling me this is the greatest post ever.

Read it yesterday, enjoyed it then.

But, as always with the reader posts, the gold is in the comments.

NADER AND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT IN 2008 AND FOREVERMORE!!!!! ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!!!!! NO FUNNY BUSINESS!!!!!!

cscs, this has almost been a knitting all-nighter for me. I had heard by way of the grapevine that you had been acting up. And some of your friends have been in on it. Now there's PROOF!!
It has been a while since I was afflicted with an out-loud chuckle, or two, or three. Thanks for all your purls of wisdom.
And, good for you, lynne.

The only thing worse than a warmonger or a hopemonger is a sanitymonger.

You have got to be kidding. Obama has more corporate supporters than anyone in the race. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.