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Now That That's Out of the Way, Let's Talk About the Suspicious Timing of the Wright Story
I don't like to post more than once in a day, but, hell, I've got a cold and too sick to go out and too wired on Sudafed to go to bed. So, that's how I came across this.
Politico, which like the rest of the MSM, is totally in the bag for Obama (NOT!), is running a story about the story.
Here are some fascinating excerpts:
The fracas started Thursday morning, when ABC’s “Good Morning America” ran a Brian Ross expose on Wright that included old video of him saying: “
Blah de blah de blah, we know what he said. Let's move on to the good part, wherein, shockingly, we discover this is not the first time this story has come up.
The minister’s controversial history has been written about countless times throughout the campaign. Wright has ties to the Rev. Louis Farrakhan, the black supremacist leader of the Nation of Islam — a fact that has been noted in more than 100 news stories just in the past few months, according to the Nexis database of news coverage.
Got that? Countless. More than a hundred. (Which, actually, most people would classify as "countable," but who am I to quibble with the Fourth Estate?) So why start again? A tantalizing clue emerges.
Opponents of Obama have constantly pushed reporters to write about the minister, which these critics considered a ticking time bomb for his campaign.
Hmmm. “Opponents of Obama" who consider this story a "ticking timebomb" have been pushing it. Who could that be referring to? What “opponents of Obama” would be contacting the press urging them to write more about Wright? Are there any clues that could help us puzzle out this mystery?
On Feb. 20, after a fiery guest sermon by Wright in Little Rock, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ran an article that said: “On Tuesday, Wright criticized the U.S. invasion of Iraq and likened the insurgents to the Israelites under Babylonian rule.”
At 9:20 that morning, Obama opponents were already trying to get Politico to link to the story.
Okay, that narrows the list of suspects. We're looking for “opponents of Obama” who are known for “routinely reach[ing] out to reporters to provide information they might use to attack her Democratic opponents,” perhaps someone known for sending such information via “behind-the-scenes e-mails to newspaper reporters and bloggers.” Nope, nothing's coming to mind. Oh well, let's return to the fascinating behind the scenes account of how this important story has hit at this time.
That’s why many news outlets — including Politico — did not initially pile on with rehashes after Ross’s story on “Good Morning America.”
Great. We've been over this ground before so they saw no reason keep running over and over again it until it finally caught on and stirred the wingnuts into an hysterical fever pitch. What changed?
But that was a reminder that it’s possible for regulars on the trail to be too familiar with the material. With the video widely available in the heat of the race, readers and viewers were thirsty for coverage.
Glad we could clear that up. It wasn't the doing of mysterious “opponents of Obama” after all. It's us, we ourselves. We are to blame, we foolish news consumers. We were simply dying for more news about this important issue. “Thirsty,” even. Silly me, thinking it was a rival campaign.




Comments (79)
Makes you wonder how long Clinton was sitting on her race-baiting portfolio waiting for Pennsylvania to come along.
Let's face it, we know all of this is being said for their benefit.
March 15, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Furion of Hussein,
A Russian immigrant in Philadelphia asked me where I came from.
I told him New York.
"No, no," he said, "all Americans come from someplace else."
I was going to tell him Oregon but then thought better of it. This was Pennsylvania after all.
I lied and told him I was Irish. Both Obama and his cousin Dick Cheney claim to be Irish like most all Americans.
He was satisfied.
Wonder how Hillary can convince Oregon voters that Obama is a Californian Muslim?
Oregon isn't Pennsylvania but there are vulnerabilities there too.
Best, Terry
March 16, 2008 6:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
HAH! Terry, you seem to know a lot about tribal prejudices and resentments. I confess, the intricacies are often lost on me.
I moved from Louisiana to Texas when I was 22 (a 300-mile distance), and was shocked to discover that I was going to have to get used to a new set of prejudices (In Louisiana, all whites against African Americans and Cajuns/Creoles). Without having had the "benefit" of acclimation, this new set of prejudices in Texas (Northern European whites against African Americans, Latinos, and Slavic whites) seemed so stupid and arbitrary...but effective, nonetheless.
March 16, 2008 1:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
laurajordan,
The nonsense is endless.
My mother spoke mostly Finnish when she started school and complained to her last day on earth about starting school with Latinos, who also spoke little or no English. At least they could speak to each other.
She had no idea where all the Latinos came from since the town was divided down the middle betweens Finns and Norwegians. Nobody ever crossed the street except tourists. Go to Astoria, OR, today and it is obvious the Finns won.
Funny thing about that is that her parents were not Finns at all but rather a Swede and a Saami. Naturally they denied it. Who wouldn't?
Okie was the N-word where I grew up. It was best not to hate the Indians too much. Person could die early that way. They weren't like the Irish who beat each other to a pulp for fun. Indians didn't seem satisfied with pulp.
My son's girlfriend is a very sweet person except when you mention Gypsies. Once he had asked her if she might be a Gypsy. That was not good, not good at all. She is a Transylvanian. I hear stories about such people.
My daughter startled me when she started complaining about Chaldeans. At the time I didn't know there were Chaldeans. They must be survivors the equal of Jews and Gypsies.
- Barack Obama
What a wonderful president we are going to have.
Best, Terry
March 16, 2008 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is a fair enough point. I'm not saying targeting Pennsylvania specifically makes sense; I attribute it more to Hillary's campaign becoming somewhat manic and shooting from the hip anytime they can bring up something they think will slow Obama down.
That sort of basis for a campaign isn't going to lead to reasonable behavior.
March 16, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
lol! You are wired on Sudafed. This is funny (because you are so exquisitely exasperated) and well-written. Thanks for the great post.
Now turn off your computer and go to bed. You need to rest. Obama can take care of himself.
March 15, 2008 11:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I find it strange that it came out during the day Obama was in the senate all day, which made it hard for a fast response.
March 15, 2008 11:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I love it when the Clinton campaign gets all concern troll-y.
Now, feel better. NYQUIL, I think.
March 15, 2008 11:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
To wildly speculate further, if these opponents were the Clinton campaign (as opposed to some guy whose girl Obama took in jr. high) why now, exactly? PA is 5 weeks away, it seems the story would be more effective closer to that primary. Unless there is truth to Donna Brazile's "this will be over in a couple of weeks" statement and there is some movement among the supers they are trying to stop. Other ideas?
March 15, 2008 11:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
I dunno... Stroking the seeds of racism requires time to sink in?
March 15, 2008 11:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think the timing was counting on a long drought of useful news and a calculation that it would echo in the MSM until the primary.
It just plays too well to those who want to hear it. And it works nicely when it is dovetailed into the racially demarcated voting results in Mississippi. Even if those numbers get chopped down by removing the Rush Effect, the memory of the story remains. Corrections never make the splash that the original story does.
March 16, 2008 1:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Stroking the seeds of racism requires time to sink in?
It does. They're slow on the uptake.
March 16, 2008 1:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
Stroking the seeds of racism
Stroking the seeds of racism???? Now that's a metafor!
March 16, 2008 9:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
They've got to stop the slow bleed somehow...this is just one way. There will be a new story about Obama's ties to Mabarak next week, a story about Obama's cat named Ahmed the next week, a story about Obama placing puppies in blenders the next, etc, etc and so forth.
March 16, 2008 11:16 AM | Reply | Permalink
I foresee a "death by a thousand cuts" strategy. If you want to deliver a message that has impact, eg. 'race', you've got to do it in a multi-dimensional way and to keep a constant, relentless refrain. Notice there's the Ferraro flap, the opinion pieces about urban communities racial schisms, and now this Wright imbroglio. I think we need to brace ourselves for more race-tinged issues to come. This is the last throes of the kitchen sink strategy, but the oven might blow up anytime now.
March 16, 2008 2:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
You IDIOTS!!!! Wright went down to Little Rock to give a "guest sermon"???? Why not send a DVD to Richard Scaife with the "Best/Worst of Jeremiah Wright" collection? Why not guest on the PTL club Sunday brunch show? Let me guess, was he a personal guest at Huckabee's church?
But yeah, blame it on Hillary. Why not. Nothing else makes much sense either.
Listen to Jeremiah's words of reconciliation a year ago: "You got some Christians who ain't got time to lynch people. We need to stop lumping folks together and start living together."
That's right, them whites been good lately cause they just ain't got time these days to do all their evil. So let's just all get along.
If you get caught eating an apple under an apple tree, don't be surprised someone thinks you stole it.
March 16, 2008 8:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
As long as we're spculating wildly and all, my guess is that the Unknown Opponents wanted the story to break before Ohio and Texas, but were not successful in accomplishing that goal. I would not be at all surprised if the fact that a long pause between elections was beginning was not part of the private editorial calculus at ABC, i.e., if we're going to do this, we shouldn't do it at a time when the guy's got no chance to fix it before the next primary.
KInd of unfortunate that the Canadian media, which should have been even more circumspect in making that kind of calculation, was less so on the NAFTAgate story, and then the NAFTAgate-gate story.
March 16, 2008 9:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
NCSteve,
Good hyperfocused pseudoephedrine writing.
I noticed that the story linked to chopped off the real punchline of Leno's joke, which was that Obama ran into Hillary who was running from Ferraro...gives a bit of insight into the bias of the writer doing the story.
Delving into your analysis though, it was interesting how the Clintons had been nudging the press all along and then came up with a nifty tactic to get it in the press only to see the national media not bite..how frustrating that must have been for them.
Here's my question, when was an invitation to Wright issued to come to AK?
How did this well-laid trap come about, how long in advance was this guest sermon booked?
Let's recall Novak saying that the Clintons had a stink bomb to unleash quite awhile back. And good ol southern boy Billybob started pushing this race card right after the IA win. It has only escalated since then with Wright being like the cresendo of a symphony or climax of Shakespearen play.
P.S. Here is some stuffy nose advice. At nighttime if you wish to sleep take ACTIFED during the day when you wish to be awake take SUDAFED.
Actifed makes you sleepy.
March 16, 2008 5:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Desidero, the quotes above clearly say "Obama opponents." That's either Hillary or McCain. And since it's framed as if it might "hurt" Obama, it's more likely it's Hillary's campaign. This isn't that nefarious; it's not like we're accusing them of making this story up. The Clinton campaign has a history of pushing the press to cover unflattering stories about Obama, quite overtly. And of course they do. It's basic politics, not a crime. If you think it's so dirty that you're offended we'd suggest it happens, you might want to find a new candidate.
March 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Reverend Wright went down to Arkansas to enlighten them with his Chicago-style speaking, I don't think Hillary had to lift a finger. Wright is easily capable of shooting himself in his own foot.
But considering the Obama team manages to ignore anything racist out of Jesse Jackson Jr., I imagine it's an easier explanation to just blame it all on Hillary.
March 16, 2008 2:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
So the preacher who converted Obama to Christianity turns out to be the type of preacher who orates 'God Damn America' and it's a dirty trick for Obama's political opponent to publicize this?
Must have been a dirty Clinton trick to put Wright on that board too huh?
Wright goes well over the top in his righteous anger about America but such an anger can fuel a push for social justice.
So it is not so much Wright's positions which trouble me as Obama's pretense that he was clueless about what Wright has been preaching.
To claim that you only learned what your Preacher was saying about 9/11 when you started running for President is ridiculous.
March 16, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
My point, hidden in the haze created by my cold, was about how this story didn't pop up until after Gerry had injected the idea that Obama's campaign is racist and Obama himself is just another empty-suit moulie suckin the tit of affirmative action.
Having said that, I do not discount the possibility that it was Obama's campaign that moved this story out at this time. Not saying they did. Just saying that if I were them, I would have done deliberately what they have in fact done, whether by accident or design.
That is to say, they knew full well that Hillary's people have been incessently firing off emails and memos and phone calls and god knows what else to the MSM trying to get them put screaming REZKO! and WRIGHT!!! headlines on the front page since Iowa. Knowing that, were I Obama's campaign, my plan would have been to actively avoided adding any fuel to the fire, even at the cost of getting accused of stonewalling, until precisely this point in time.
Is that what happened? Damifino. I do know that, were I them, I'd want the "exhaust the story" conference on Rezko and the Wright blow-up to happen at exactly the same time and that this is precisely the best time it could happen. One really bad weekend is infinitely better than three continuious weeks where you can't get on message.
March 16, 2008 12:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
My point was "why did Wright go down to Arkansas?"
To kill Obama's candidacy, or something less obvious?
March 16, 2008 2:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that is more of an insinuation than a point.
March 16, 2008 3:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's not an insinuation, it's an observation and a relevant question. Who knew about Wright going to Arkansas, and didn't they think that was a stupid idea?
March 16, 2008 5:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
And, again, he's a preacher, not a member of the campaign other than is former honorary poohbah to the spiritual advisory thingamajigee capacity. Possibly, just conceivably, he accepted an invitation to preach in his capacity as a, well, preacher. The idea that he's an active member of the campaign who would be coordinating all of his movements and activities with the campaign is an idea Hillary would love to get going, but not one that's true.
March 16, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...converted Obama to Christianity..."?
Where did you get this idea from? Please, people, go back and do some research on this story. It's pure political bushwhacking whoever is responsible. Good god, why do Democrats eat their young?
March 16, 2008 4:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
"The fracas started Thursday morning, when ABC’s “Good Morning America” ran a Brian Ross expose on Wright that included old video of him saying: “"
Brian Ross has some good stories, but he is also infamous for publishing false links between Saddam and Al Qaeda and that Saddam was behind the antrhax attacks.
I'm very curious about the origins of this.
Did HRC push this? The timing suggests so. The GOP would likely have wanted to use this in say late October.
Also, the lack of context, the spliced up "greatest hits" montage, is hardly responsible journalism. We have no way of knowing from Ross' hack job whether Wright has any positive message or what is typical at the church. Seems like hit-and-run journalism to me. HRC's silence on the issue makes it seem even a little more suspicious.
March 16, 2008 11:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think the timing *is* very suspicious.
As the USS Hillary starts to sink, look for more ugly attacks, smears, fearmongering.
If Hillary is outed as pushing this story, will she be attacked for a covertly racist portrayal of a "scary black church" for white PA???
The MSM tone about Wright is fundamentally prejudiced. We have white pundits gets all huffy and scared because a popwerful black preacher is angry at American arrogance and racism. I note that the MSM doesn't invite any black commentators to give THEIR view. It's only the white perspective. (And of course, conveniently, white fire-and-brimstone preachers get a pass -- why? because of the white comfort level) The response to this is totally irrational. Wright is proudly black and indignant about Americas failings. BO aside, I think the MSM is, to borrow a phrase, truly engaging in a "high tech lynching" here.
March 16, 2008 11:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
It seemed to appear at a time when there were a few negative Clinton stories in the news; questioning her "experience", questioning her role in Ireland and other peace talks. To me it broke at a point when I felt, Wow! All this negative Clinton stuff coming out. Looks like it's over. And then came the Wright story.
The timing was very suspicous to me and I doubt it was an accident that it broke when it did. It put the anti-Clinton stories on the back pages which is just where the Clinton campaign wanted them.
March 16, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or maybe ABC was simply behind in the ratings.
Not everything is a conspiracy.
March 16, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I dono i don't like how http://abcnews.go.com/politics tally's there vote population count.
March 16, 2008 1:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Suspicious or not, it's better to get this out now, so far in advance. The Obama campaign had to know the Wright screeds were out there. And if they didn't, then they're incompetent.
And I'm quite impressed with Obama's response.
Nonetheless, the damage has been done. The question remains how effective his response has been in limiting the damage.
And good for the Obama campaign being able to, at least publicly, stop the "REZKO REZKO REZKO" drumbeat.
Although, what will Rae have to say?
March 16, 2008 1:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
More sheet wearing campaign tactics from the HRC camp. Cold triangulating power calculus that it will play well in parts of Pennsyl-tucky -- and open up the festering sore of racism that can always be counted on to drag things down into ugly divisive politics.
These are amazingly odious tactics for an allegedly Democratic candidate to employ against another fellow Democrat. This Hillary monster will do anything, stoop down to any low, troll through any gutter in order to drag this race down into the swamp she evidently lives in.
HRC has reached out for the same lows as George Wallace. She is showing her own color -- the color of ugly greed for power.
I believe HRC is pursuing a strategy of destroying any chances Obama has of winning the general election -- at this point she knows she cannot win -- so that she can crawl out of her crypt in 2012.
Hillary Clinton is a study in how far greed for power can corrupt a person -- she is one of the most odious figures in national politics right now -- she is sinking down to truly Rovian lows.
Be gone Hillary. Be gone to the rotten hate seething greedy place your heart lives in. I despise you and everything you stand for. You are a monster Hillary -- your actions prove it.
Hillary you are no Democrat -- you are a disciple of Karl Rove.
March 16, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's drink a toast to President-to-be John McCain...
March 16, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sense a bit of honesty in that toast.
March 16, 2008 3:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would like a little more scrutiny of where Brian Ross got this story. Who "pushed" it? It would seem it was Hillary as far as timing goes. GOP would be in November. Anyone disagree?
Also, it doesn't seem as much a news story as just a video montage of the most inflammatory stuff. NYTimes and others have discussed Wright a long time ago. I question the "news" here.
Indeed, imagine if ABC just printed the transcript of the videos. The reaction would be mild. It seems like the "inflammatory" nature of the videos was in part due to the image of an angry black preacher. I think race is very much a factor. And now we get to listen to a bunch of white pundits get all worked up about it.
March 16, 2008 2:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
NC Steve -
I think you are on to something in suspecting that the timing may have come from the Obama campaign. This stuff was going to get out there at some point & they must have known that. The timing seems serendipitous for Obama: he has plenty of time to address it before the next big contest & it is playing in a context with Gerry Ferraro. It also coincides with him dumping more info on Rezko, which seems to be a concerted effort to clean out the closets.
Doing so not only frees Obama to 'draw contrasts' with what is in the Clintons' own vast closets, but it cuts to the core of her argument to the superdelegates: that there is something we don't know about Obama that makes him unelectable.
I am worried that the Wright flap may be that thing, but we will see Obama's ability to overcome this line of attack (fair or not) - and better now than in August or September. If this doesn't sink him in the next month or so, then I think her key argument to the SDs will be deflated.
March 16, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Now, since it seems that Barack Obama has been running for President since primary school, what I don't understand and am really having a lot of problems understanding is why Obama didn't cut this relationship off years ago. Is Wright that big a deal on the Chicago South Side? Would it have cost Obama the Senate seat to have distanced himself from Wright years ago?
What hold does (did) Wright have (had) on Obama?
The business of "God damn America" sounds like that old chestnut, The Man Without a Country. I don't think even Karl Rove could dream up something better thant that. Certainly it puts in doubt Obama's judgment.
March 16, 2008 3:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I sense that you assume that there was racism in the Wright comments or that being an "angry black man" is inherently wrong. Add that to your assumption of Obama running for president from primary school, I am not sure I see room for a logical discussion.
What kind of "hold" do your beliefs have on you?
It certainly puts doubt in your ability to engage in objective judgment.
March 16, 2008 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Being an "angry black man" isn't wrong, but it is political suicide, because a great many white people, who make up the majority of voters in a presidential election, are both frightened and bored by angry black people. An essential part of Obama's pitch is that, although he is black, he isn't angry.
What I cannot understand is how somebody as smart as Obama didn't uncouple from somebody like Wright who could harm him this much politically, long ago.
http://seaton-newslinks.blogspot.com
March 16, 2008 3:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're making the unfounded assumption that the 4-minute clipshow is representative of all, or most, of Wright's sermons, or even of his overarching worldview. I don't think anyone but Wright's closest friends, and members of his congregation, would know that.
I've been in church many times and a pastor said something I simply couldn't agree with. Did I abandon the church for one man's hyperbole? No. No churchgoer would abandon the community of which they've become part over something so trivial.
Obama even said in his interview on Fox that if that had been the overarching tone of Wright's message, he would have left the church. He didn't, so apparently it wasn't. That right there provides far more information than you seem to be currently operating on.
To argue otherwise, in the face of Obama's own statement, is pretty much to call him a liar, and to make baseless assumptions about the majority of Wright's 30 years of sermons. That's a pretty extreme response.
March 16, 2008 4:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
David,
here's a thought.
As you know Barack is biracial. I suspect he is 'not white enough' to have been frightened by Wright and 'not black enough' to have believed much of the fire and brimstone statements about God Damn America. His white side kept him optimistic while his black side allowed him to listen and comprehend far beyond to what needed to happene to transcend the anger of generations of blacks.
Politically and spiritually, Obama was on a learning curb and being steeped in the black culture which enabled him to communicate to a greater mass of people. Wright is a genuine product of the black experience in America and probably the first adult male who despite that anger channeled his passions into giving back to the commununity, which Barack had the same drive for. Jeremiah Wright provided another piece of the diversity of America for Obama that was non-thretening in that the only thing Obama had to do to measure up in Wright's eyes was community service to the poor, downtrodden and disenfranchised.
If you recall, Obama had the 20 year white perspective down from childhood and adolescent, growing up with his white grandparents.
As Obama says...he has all kinds of little bits and pieces of America running around inside of him.
All of which drives his motivation to have Americans rise up and move forward as the UNITED States of America.
March 16, 2008 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
David,
here's a thought.
As you know Barack is biracial. I suspect he is 'not white enough' to have been frightened by Wright and 'not black enough' to have believed much of the fire and brimstone statements about God Damn America. His white side kept him optimistic while his black side allowed him to listen and comprehend far beyond to what needed to happene to transcend the anger of generations of blacks.
Politically and spiritually, Obama was on a learning curb and being steeped in the black culture which enabled him to communicate to a greater mass of people. Wright is a genuine product of the black experience in America and probably the first adult male who despite that anger channeled his passions into giving back to the commununity, which Barack had the same drive for. Jeremiah Wright provided another piece of the diversity of America for Obama that was non-thretening in that the only thing Obama had to do to measure up in Wright's eyes was community service to the poor, downtrodden and disenfranchised.
If you recall, Obama had the 20 year white perspective down from childhood and adolescent, growing up with his white grandparents.
As Obama says...he has all kinds of little bits and pieces of America running around inside of him.
All of which drives his motivation to have Americans rise up and move forward as the UNITED States of America.
March 16, 2008 6:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
vicissitudes,
We are all mongrels. Every blessed last one of us.
It is somewhat odd David doesn't understand that as an ex-patriate but then maybe it takes some culture clash growing up to truly understand.
Culture is not race, not race, not race though most Americans peculiarly seem incapable of grasping that simple fact.
There is no white race, no black race.
There are distinct races. Your lying eyes will tell you that but you need to engage your brain to understand what race is. Few bother.
When a reporter asked Jack Dempsey what a black fighter was doing at a table in Dempsey's restaurant of White Hopes to beat Joe Louis, the old Manassa Mauler proved he wasn't brain damaged from his years in the ring. Jack laughed and said that was the only one who had a chance.
Democrats are taking longer to understand the best White Hope isn't white. Maybe we need some knocks in the head too.
Best, Terry
March 16, 2008 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
I know this is going to come as a shock to you, but he's not highly paid genuius campaign consultant, like Mark Penn, or even an unpaid "advisor" who's job it is to say things the candidate can't, like Gerry Ferraro or Bill Sheehan.
He's a preacher. He went there to preach.
March 16, 2008 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well thanks for the help, preacher, but perhaps it'd be better if you stayed at home till say mid-November, eh? I know you're not Mark Penn, but here's a hat tip - them Southern boys might not like the message that seems to draw the black folks on the South Side.
March 16, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
NCSteve,
Good hyperfocused pseudoephedrine writing.
I noticed that the story linked to chopped off the real punchline of Leno's joke, which was that Obama ran into Hillary who was running from Ferraro...gives a bit of insight into the bias of the writer doing the story.
Delving into your analysis though, it was interesting how the Clintons had been nudging the press all along and then came up with a nifty tactic to get it in the press only to see the national media not bite..how frustrating that must have been for them.
Here's my question, when was an invitation to Wright issued to come to AK?
How did this well-laid trap come about, how long in advance was this guest sermon booked?
Let's recall Novak saying that the Clintons had a stink bomb to unleash quite awhile back. And good ol southern boy Billybob started pushing this race card right after the IA win. It has only escalated since then with Wright being like the cresendo of a symphony or climax of Shakespearen play.
P.S. Here is some stuffy nose advice. At nighttime if you wish to sleep take ACTIFED during the day when you wish to be awake take SUDAFED.
Actifed makes you sleepy.
March 16, 2008 5:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here's more important advice. Avoid the 24 hour Sudafed tablets like the plague. A Red Bull IV drip would have made me less twitchy.
March 16, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
OOO, you are soooooo right about that. As a rule it is just not good to take long acting anything because you never know what medical emergency could occur and you have that stuff on board and it just keeps releasing and there is not a darn thing the medical folks can do.
It is wise to take something twice a day rather than once a day. Especially something that causes vasoconstriction like ephedrine...high blood pressure, cardiac dysfunction and/or stroke potentiated is not a good deal with long acting ephedrine.
March 16, 2008 8:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually I go for a 24 hour sudafed combined with naproxen sodium (Aleve). It makes you feel better, it jacks you up nicely and mixes well with a little herb-al intake.
Kinda like the old hippy speed-ball.
March 16, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
All of your comments that blindly support Obama, reflect not the ignorance of those reporting, but perhaps your own. Obama did not handle this well. The uncle comment does not pass the smell test. One does not choose one's uncle but a 20 to 25 year relationship with a pastor is a chosen one and one does not attend a megachurch to have a close relationship with fellow church members but rather for that pastor's preaching. I know I attend one. I would leave a church that allowed ANY form of racist preaching.
This type of blind lemming approach to the democratic nominee will lead to the election of McCann and perhaps rightly so. Should the only racism to be tolerated today be that of those against whites and the only stereotypes to be allowed are those against women. YOU LEAVE A CHURCH AS A MEMBER when this occurs. YOU CANNOT COMPARE IT TO BEING ENDORSED BY HAGEE. McCann does not choose to get his spiritual advise from Hagee. I have listened to this blog forever and up to this point been pleased with JMM's fair reporting. You have become so partisan that you lose all sense it is aking you look "fair and balanced" in the truest sense of the Fox spirit.
March 16, 2008 4:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe you don't. How dare you speak for the motives of 200 million other Americans?
March 16, 2008 4:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Referring to Wright as a "racist" is to indulge in false equivilence, one that makes many white people feel better about themselves, but one that is dangerously self-deceptive.
"Racism" is not the same thing as prejudice or ethnically based rage. Racism is an ideology founded upon the belief that one's ethnic group is genetically and/or culturally superior to others and that, on the basis of that superiority, is entitled to have power over the inferior races.
There are a handful of black racists, but they are few, very few. Whatever Wright is, he is not a "racist." He is not preaching a dogma of black superiority.
Further, I find it fascinating how quick some have been to leap to the conclusion that this five minute compilation of soundbites culled from many, many hours of sermons is typical of Wright's ministry rather than exceptional, the testimony of Obama, Wright's congregants, his bishop and his successor notwithstanding.
March 16, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right on, Commenter.
March 16, 2008 7:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama's chruch is not a "megachurch." It's a big church, but its in Chicago, a big city. I do not suggest you go there, or to any black church, and tell them they have no sense of community, do not attend in large part because of that sense of community and that they can just shrug that community off when you find out the preacher said something you didn't like.
And,though I am apostate, I went to a (kind of) Christian college and was raised in a denomination that shares historical roots with the UCC. In my view community is as central to Christianity as communion and the Lord's Prayer. It simply amazes me that you say you go to church and yet you don't feel, or seek to feel, any sense of community with the other members.
Far be it from me to critisize the quality or nature of your own faith experience, but, before you start tossing around accusations of "blindness" and projecting your faith experience as definitive for everyone else in the nation and the world, I'd respectfully suggest you go give Matthew Chapter 7, v. 1 - 5 a look.
March 16, 2008 5:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually as an Obama supporter I think it's an opportune time to get the Rezko and Wright garbage out of the way and finally put them to rest. There's 5 weeks until the next primary which is plenty of time to get his story out and neutralize the attacks. As we've seen so far Barack has been able to turn back the smears and come out stronger. All the while he's piling up bigger pledged delegate margins than she is due to superior organization in county and state conventions in IA and TX.
This has gotta be incredibly frustrating for Hillary supporters and will be even more so in the weeks to come as their attempts to keep these stories alive will only hurt her.
March 16, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Kitchen sink means kitchen sink.
March 16, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Barak and his campaign people have handled this just right, and that most Obama supporters - at least the ones most in evidence on this and other liberal blogs - have the right idea: we must have change from the old-style politics, the divisiveness and all the other evils the Clintons and most older white people have wreaked on America, no matter what must be done or how we do it. It's them or us. Once elected, Barak will have the power to set things right and we can proceed to bring the country together. Then blacks will stay loyal to the party and I'll bet even Rev. Wright will calm down a little.
If Barak does not get elected, for whatever reason, the authority and political power of these blogs will be threatened, too, so there's a lot at stake.
March 16, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
That was a good one. Power and authority... over what? How many letters and words we use to repeat ourselves?
March 16, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think Barak and his campaign people have handled this just right, and that most Obama supporters - at least the ones most in evidence on this and other liberal blogs - have the right idea: we must have change from the old-style politics, the divisiveness and all the other evils the Clintons and most older white people have wreaked on America, no matter what must be done or how we do it. It's them or us. Once elected, Barak will have the power to set things right and we can proceed to bring the country together. Then blacks will stay loyal to the party and I'll bet even Rev. Wright will calm down a little.
If Barak does not get elected, for whatever reason, the authority and political power of these blogs will be threatened, too, so there's a lot at stake.
March 16, 2008 5:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
After hearing Obama's recent speech in Indiana, in which he referred to the Wright controversary among other things, what came through for me was his sense of compassion, inclusiveness: i.e., disapproving Wright's approach/statements but not blasting the man at the core. (Hate the sin, love the sinner).
And it strikes me that this fundamental compassion is one of the things I really like about this candidate. So the fact that he hasn't left Wright's church over this and hasn't refused to associate with Wright over this makes sense to me in the context of the values Obama exhibits. I get it that it would be more politically expedient to disown anyone who might be scrutinized for their deeds ... but as we've seen, Obama is not the standard politician. His message has been that despite great great differences amongst us, we can be compassionate toward others, recognize that we are all flawed, find a way to respectfully, even forcefully disagree, but still work together. i.e., apply the same compassion to the broader human race that we often do within our families (thus, his "uncle" comment).
Sort of related to this, I remember talking to a woman while I was making calls for Obama campaign who said: "I like a lot of what he says, but I don't like the way he says it. He talks like a preacher. I want him to talk like a politician!"
Well, yea, she was right -- his oratory is informed by preacher style -- and by values beyond the simply political. If it's a dyed-in-the-wool politician you want, yep, Obama's definitely not it!
March 16, 2008 6:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very much on point, there's an excellent diary up at Kos about the historical roots and purpose of inflamatory preaching in Christianity. Read it all.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/16/17571/2310/136/476847
March 16, 2008 6:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jeff Sharlet gets quoted over at Crooks & Liars, and it's a doozy:
In contextualizing Jeremiah Wright’s “God damn America,” it might be worth remembering another Jeremiah who expressed similar sentiments: namely, Jeremiah. As in, the prophet of the Hebrew Bible, or the “Old Testament,” if you prefer.
Why does that matter? Because it reminds us that a core function of one who attempts to speak in a prophetic voice is to remind us that we are in this together and that we’ll both prosper and suffer together. Many evangelical Christians speak of a “gift of discernment,” not unlike the “gift of tongues.” Us democratically-minded folk might do well to remember that that core concept of a democracy is that we all have some gift of discernment. So let’s use ours and consider the prophetic statements on offer:
1. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said America is damned — cursed by God, though not permanently — because we tolerate feminists and queer people.
2. John Hagee says America is damned — cursed by God, though not permanently — because we tolerate Muslims.
3. Jeremiah Wright says America is damned — cursed by God, though not permanently, suffering from hate and division, from bitterness and envy — because we succumb to hating one another.
For my money, my Bible, and my democracy, that last sentiment has the ring of truth, and I’m not even a religious man.
That doesn’t mean it’s a sentiment for a campaign trail. But it does mean that in framing this, we might want to turn our anger toward Fox and the NY Post and all those denouncing Jeremiah Wright rather than the man who says we suffer because of racism. Here is a pastor trying, perhaps not successfully, to preach accountability for hate, not for tolerance. And here is a media that is demanding that we NOT be held accountable for hate.
That is, mainstream media is telling us we must tolerate hate — Hagee — but not those who don’t believe we should tolerate hate — Wright.
Jeremiah Wright’s words were harsh, as were Jeremiah’s. As were Martin Luther King’s — “I have a dream” wasn’t his only speech, and he died holding America accountable for the war in Vietnam and the war against the poor at home. That’s not left, that’s not right, that’s not “racial,” that’s not “post-racial.” It’s prophetic. The Right’s screeching, meanwhile, is simply pathetic.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/16/remembering-another-jeremiah/
March 16, 2008 7:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. Nicely put.
March 16, 2008 9:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
This begins with the question. "Why Now?"
And we know the answer:
It is needed as ammunition that it can be distorted, disseminated, and destroy a candidate.
March 16, 2008 7:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great post, PFKANCSteve!
I too might have to try Sudafed as wit enhancer...
LOL!
March 16, 2008 8:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Right Hillary the evil one had been sitting on this the whole time. Get off it, This should have been out there a long time ago but because of the MSM love fest for Obama and now that McCain is the running mate they waited as long as they could for Obama to bring this out. Why does this matter because the Pastor is his mentor, confidant, inspiration, part of his family, sounding board, advisor for the past 20 years. Obama claims not to have known this pastor had given sermons like this. Bull, even Obama's wife make racial comments and they get away with it because of their race. It's too bad that Obama who preached a good sermon did not believe in what he was preaching. I've done my homework on Obama and could see throughout his life he held on to the same beliefs as his pastor. Why would you stay with a church for that long if you don't believe in what the pastor was preaching? The audacity of Obama to use and manipulate the youth at a time when we are in peril and need sound representation in the world.
March 16, 2008 8:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
You should share some of this homework. Otherwise it sounds like you are just trying to be offensive.
March 16, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
For those who haven't seen it, this is the text of Wright's sermon "The Audacity of Hope" -- one that we know Obama heard and attended to:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/for-the-record.html#more
Which is more typical of Wright's ministry? I don't know but it is certainly a critical and important question.
As to the timing of this story, I can't believe that Clintons or even the Republicans are behind it, because there is not a time when it would be LESS damaging to Obama. It may still be terribly damaging, but I think it would have been immediately fatal at so many other times:
-- last fall when he was barely struggling along and the race was in the 'elimination' phase?
-- after Iowa when he was brand new as a 'serious' candidate?
-- after NH when you could say Iowa was a fluke?
-- after, or before, SC when the push was on to make him look like the 'black candidate'?
-- the week before Super Tuesday, which was Clinton's best chance to knock him out of the race?
As fascinating as "why now?" may be, I am transfixed wondering "why not earlier?" I think that on Friday a lot of people thought "Okay, that's it. Obama's candidacy is dead." A lot of people still think that way and maybe they are right ... but the number is fewer than it was on Friday, and maybe it will lessen each day.
And, the "beauty" of this timing (from Obama's perspective) is that there is NO WAY to declare it dead until April 22nd, quite a long while from now. Until then, he will have to be treated with the respect due the unarguable front-runner. And some people are going to conclude from that treatment that maybe it wasn't so awful after all because no one seems to be shunning him. So, given that the story was inevitably going to come out, it probably could not have happened at a better time for Obama.
Which takes me back to the utterly fascinating question of "why not earlier?" I can see the Republicans waiting - don't let it come up until the general election when there isn't a chance for Clinton (or Gore or Edwards or anyone else) to step in and be the candidate. However, the Clinton campaign? As much as I have objected strenuously to the techniques of the Clinton campaign, I couldn't have faulted them for bringing this out -- even if they had to do it themselves -- at some more critical time. This is not a made-up story (Muslum, NAFTA-gate, Reagan-loving); it is not insinuations or not dependent on code words. It has teeth and raises legit questions (to which I believe there are legitimate answers, but perhaps most voters won't), and THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN THERE ALL ALONG. All you had to do pick up on the mumblings that have been around all along (including Obama's own dis-inviting of Wright to his formal initiation of the campaign), buy copies of the sermons readisly available on DVD, and then piece together a sample (or perhaps the complete list? an important question) of 'lowest moments.'
So why did they NOT do it at a time when it would have been far more effective? (And 'squeamishness' or 'wanting to take the high road' simply don't pass the believability test.) (Nor will concern that they could get tarred in the process, since - I've read - Bill and Hillary Clinton themselves met with Rev. Wright during their days of crisis. Whitewater didn't stop them from pointing fingers at Rezko.) I'm more puzzled by this question than I have been by anything else in this whole campaign.
March 16, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hi Elizabeth
I was pondering this as well. If I let my creative imagination run wild I speculate that this was recommended by the super delegates to be releashed at this time.
They knew it was there and they want to see if this is going to know Obama out, if it does...there is still time to nominate Hillary.
I think this based on Brazille's comment of the nominee will be known in 2 weeks. I thought that was strange as there are no states that vote in the upcoming weeks.
So what else could be the determining factor? I think it is the superdelegates. They are ready to stand behind Obama but first they pushed to have this released to determine if Obama could weather this political storm.
After all, if he doesn't it takes the pressure off the superdelegates having to 'decide' who is the nominee.
Of course this is sheer speculation but it may just be the price the Clintons demanded to step off the stage. The Clintons play hardball and this was their worst stink bomb I think they had to sell to the superdelegates.
The next 2 weeks will be very important in terms of how beat up Obama is.
March 16, 2008 11:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
jennie3233 -- You say "I've done my homework on Obama and could see throughout his life he held on to the same beliefs as his pastor" Well, I've done my homework also and not seen any. So could you please point to specific examples from Obama's life that you believe show he holds views consistent with the views expressed in the video clips that are now making the rounds? I'd really like to know. ... And if you are correct, then I really wonder how he explained those views to his mother and grandparents? (I don't expect you to know that part, but it would be a puzzle.)
March 16, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
One thing i always find annoying about the MSM is they act like it isnt their fault that they are talking about race all day instead of talking about the issues or other news.
March 16, 2008 10:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think NC may have a point about it not being so bad to get some of this out at this point. Wright would get out--but pretty clever to get the extra Rezko stuff and the earmarks out. And almost all in the same news cycle.
If this is all the problems, he has a clean house, he can really take Clinton to the woodshed. Tax returns, donations to the Foundation, Bill's lobbying for creepy international financiers and all the rest.
This could be genius.
March 16, 2008 10:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
While some cynics still view Barack Obama’s appeal for “change” as empty rhetoric, it’s starting to dawn on Washington insiders that his ability to raise vast sums of money from nearly one million mostly small donors could shake the grip that special-interest money has long held over the U.S. government.
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This spreading realization that Obama’s political movement might represent a more revolutionary change than previously understood is sparking a deepening resistance among defenders of the status quo – and prompting harsher attacks on Obama.
Right now, the front line for the Washington Establishment is Hillary Clinton’s struggling presidential campaign, which has been stunned by Obama’s political skills as well as his extraordinary ability to raise money over the Internet. Obama’s grassroots donations have negated Clinton’s prodigious fundraising advantage with big donors.
Powerful lobbies – from AIPAC to representatives of military and other industries – also are recognizing the value of keeping their dominance over campaign cash from getting diluted by Obama’s deep reservoir of small donors. It’s in their direct interest to dent Obama’s momentum and demoralize his rank-and-file supporters as soon as possible.
So, neoconservatives and other ideological movements – heavily dependent on grants from the same special interests – are now joining with the Clinton campaign to tear down Obama by depicting him as unpatriotic, un-vetted, possibly a “closet Muslim.”
Bill Clinton even joins up with the conservative right wing and goes on Limbaugh to view voters as both he and Hilliary are deeply indebted to the lobbyists. The latest attack is one of character assasination with Jeremiah Wright meant to paint Obama as morally bankrupt and racially divisive at heart.
Hopefully Americans realize this is their moment and take back their country.
March 17, 2008 2:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
I been in this church 20 years and have known and admired the Rev even longer, but have never been aware of the things exposed today, while I was busy in the senate voting all day.
"I have never been a Muslim"
'as some one who has little pieces of America in me"
Is there anyone who knows who said these things, understands them and can vouch for the voracity of same.
March 17, 2008 1:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
The President of United Church of Christ
Rev John Thomas
speaks on Rev Jeremiah Wright
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYla5xdPTUg&eurl=http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/
March 17, 2008 1:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Wow. vicissitudes -- that never even faintly crossed my mind, but it surely makes sense. It also makes sense with the multi-hour sit-down with the Tribune and Sun having the same timing. That is something that obviously was going to have to be done as well. I didn't think any more of that than that this is one of the only times there have been a day or two for it to happen.
I hope you are right. I also hope he survives it because I very much want him to be the nominee (and the President!) but if he's not going to be, for goodness sake end it now!!! And if he is, even more reason to end it now.
Someone in addition to Donna B. said something about a decision being made in the next week or so. I wish I could remember who, but someone else on the inner circle who would know. I'll try to remember. Pelosi has also been consistent in saying there will be a candidate before the convention, although that is more vauge. Very interesting. Thank you.
March 17, 2008 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
The MSM tone about Wright is fundamentally prejudiced. We have white pundits gets all huffy and scared because a popwerful black preacher is angry at American arrogance and racism. I note that the MSM doesn't invite any black commentators to give THEIR view. It's only the white perspective. (And of course, conveniently, white fire-and-brimstone preachers get a pass -- why? because of the white comfort level) The response to this is totally irrational. Wright is proudly black and indignant about Americas failings. BO aside, I think the MSM is, to borrow a phrase, truly engaging in a "high tech lynching" here.
As an aside, the WaPo columnist Colby King, a black man, said he has heard preachers like Wright many times before. He said it is a way for the black community to vent their frustrations. And he pointed out that the most segregated day of the week is Sunday morning. Apart from him, I haven't seen anyone ask a black person for their perspective on this. Just whites talking about white's feelings.
Wright's view is not uncommon among black America.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bOOL3BYaIEQ
"Don't let anybody make you think God chose America as his divine messianic force to be a sort of policeman of the whole world. God has a way of standing before the nations with justice and it seems I can hear God saying to America "you are too arrogant, and if you don't change your ways, I will rise up and break the backbone of your power, and I will place it in the hands of a nation that doesn't even know my name. Be still and know that I'm God. Men will beat their swords into plowshafts and their spears into pruning hooks, and nations shall not rise up against nations, neither shall they study war anymore." I don't know about you, I ain't going to study war anymore."
Martin Luther King Jr.
Address to the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (1967-08-16)
March 17, 2008 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
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