I haven't read that. Can you post a link to the diary that the Kos quotes are from?

Glad he finally saw the light. Not sure what took him so long. Trying to be politically correct in running his blog I suppose. Glad he now realized that the future of the country is probably more important than the future of DailyKos -- I do see a bright future for both though.

Dailykos has been in the Obama camp for a long time while MyDD has earned as much respectability as Matt Drudge with a pathological trashing of Obama.

Numerous liberal blogs are filled with Clintonoid refugess from DailyKos.

Best, Terry

Kos was initially sceptical about some of Obama's specific policy positions. He had similar concerns about Edwards and Clinton and he held back on any outright support or endorsement early on. As time went on Kos warmed up to Obama, and he admitted in a diary prior to Feb 4th (which I'm too lazy to look for right now) that he had voted for Obama via California absentee ballot.

Since then, Kos seems to have become convinced that Obama is truly attempting to wage a 50 state, grass-roots national campaign, and this has swung him into his enthusiastic support for Obama. That and Kos (along with many other progressives) has been personally offended by some of Clinton's campaign strategies at this point.

This ain't new, the Great Orange Satan has always liked Obama. It's sad that Kos doesn't care that Obama cozies up to anti-gay bigots but everyone's entitled to an opinion, I guess.

Quote: "It's sad that Kos doesn't care that Obama cozies up to anti-gay bigots"

But of course he does no such thing. One suspects you already know that.

Quote: "Uh... but he does."

What Terry said.

Quote: "As for kos' support of a particular candidate? Doesn't mean squat to me."

If by "squat" you mean marching orders, then it doesn't mean squat to me either. But I still find kos' telling as an indicator of what may be a shift in public opinion re the Clinton tactics.

And Hillary refuses to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from a company with 113 sexual harrassment suits against them. She's waiting for them to be adjudicated. All 113 of them. Great feminist, there, Hillary.

Obama did do one event with that guy. But his record is pro-gay. I think you know that.

Barack Obama has made it perfectly clear that he's in favor of equal treatment of people, regardless of sexual orientation. You must not be from Illinois, because he stood by it when Alan Keyes tried to make it an issue during the election. I also submit this video from a speech in Texas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp4GyMoqC2U

I'd love to hear Clinton say it's not Christian to be homophobic. But I find that unlikely.

Daily Kos is rabidly pro-Obama. This is definitely not a surprise.

kos is talking about the effect Obama will have on down ticket races.

I can say that the head of the party in our county, the largest county in our red state, is very excited about an election with Obama at the head of the ticket - he believes we will go purple, possible blue, for the first time in a long time.

We had an enormous turnout and made substantial progress in republican precincts.

I hear you, Bobeau. Obama could be very exciting for Utah dems. Salt Lake County's an island of blue in a raging sea of red, so the state party is scared of its own shadow and won't support anyone but the most republican of democratic candidates. But Salt Lake City just ran roughshod over the party to elect a progressive mayor, and we might just do the same with a few legislators. At least enough to irritate the good ol' boys on the hill.

Daily Kos is a crazy place sometimes, that is why I like it. I check that place out everyday.

It is an open site and all types of people come there and post. Regulars, special interests, newbies just finding out about the blogsphere etc... even 'gasp' Republican operatives from those awful sites seeking to make havoc and mayhem! (My tinfoil hat moment) There are some very talented writers as well great information. I have been a regular for years.

I gave up on the MSM years ago...talk about bias. How can any sane person stand it?

But anyways, if it is not someone's cup of tea then they are free to go elsewhere. Different strokes for different folks.

He does not push his ideas on anyone. He and other people who contribute there just put it out there. You can take it or leave it. It is up to you. That is how I always approached it.

I find myself coming to TPM more regularly than in the past because I like it here as well. :) I like the cafe idea.

I'll just sip my tea now. May I have another scone please? With lots of butter.

Peace :)

Many posters on the Kos site do seem slightly deranged. I think part of it is the Obama has brought in many newbies to the political process. They are unseasoned and think everything is black and white with no shades of gray. If you aren't for their golden one then you must be evil. I also agree that this is hurting the site, as is this latest obsession of Kos with allegedly doctored photographs. It does not ring true and the fact that he pounds on it day after day is puzzling and discouraging. Perhaps he should spend a little time investigating the strong ties Obama has with the Chicago Daley machine, which is currently under grand jury investigation (the Daley machine, that is). They gave Obama a political leg up and he has recently returned the favor by endorsing one of the worst hacks in Chicago history for President of the Cook County Board, rather than the reform opponent. That Board, now led by Obama's hack, has just raised the regressive sales tax in Cook County to the highest level in America, all so they can pad their payroll with more patronage jobs. I don't support Obama, but I like him. Still, I think he needs to explain to us how he reconciles these connections with corrupt machine politics and his supposed politics of hope and progressivism.

destor23,

While I definitely respect your point of view and your dismay that a Democratic candidate for President would accept the support of someone who is known to disapprove of equal rights for Gay and Lesbian citizens, I think that you are missing something important. Barack Obama's support of equal rights for all persons without regard to sexual preference is well known and demonstrated. So for Donnie McClurkin to endorse him caused quite a bit of controversy among evangelicals. It could have resulted in McClurkin getting the Dixie Chicks treatment.

What this tells me, and might tell you if you look closer, is that you and Donnie McClurkin have one very large area of disagreement. But it is also possible that you have other very large areas of agreement on issues you both care quite a bit about. Rather than focus on how wrong McClurkin is (and I agree with you about that) when it comes to equal rights, why not build a coalition around areas of common agreement. Then when there is a working coalition, it is far more likely to reach agreement on the areas of disagreement.

This is the essence of the new politics. Building relationships in areas of mutual agreement, followed by building trust and coalitions, and then building a working majority that helps to resolve conflicts while actually accomplishing government.

But it requires that when someone from what we have considered the opposition takes a step toward our side, we don't slam that person and refuse to receive them. Donnie McClurkin put his career on the line to endorse gay enabling Barack Obama. I give him credit for taking the risk. Especially because people like you are going to hate him anyway.

Actually Hillary was caught as a hypocrite and liar since her campaign actually reached out to the Canadian government to tell them to take what they say on the campaign trail with a grain of salt.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080305.wharpleak0305/BNStory/National/home