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John McCain supports Obama on Wright
I'm not sure if this will work or not. But here's a youtube of John McCain essentially saying, "I do know Senator Obama, he does not share those views." This is on Fox directly to Sean Hannity's face.
He goes on to say that there are a lot surrogates that say things on both campaigns that the candidates clearly don't agree with. In fact, at one point he sighs as he seems annoyed that this is even an issue.
I have two thoughts on this. One, McCain is trying the good cop/bad cop thing where the 527s will be the bad cop. Two, he actually is annoyed that this is an issue - he himself has a problem with it as well.
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If that doesn't work, here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQquSOnlxJ8






Comments (38)
I must be TPM illiterate. Not sure how I was supposed to post the youtube embed. Any ideas?
March 16, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
The link works, and I suspect that you can't do embedded video at all. And thanks for posting it. It's a powerful statement.
I don't know McCain's motive. It could have been politically calculated, it could have been his genuine views.
But McCain gave a classy response. He gave the right response. It's the sort of response Obama might hope to get from a Democratic opponent, but of course he won't get that from Hillary.
And to the Hillary supporters who are posting on this site, trying to use this issue to tear down Obama: How does it feel to be out-classed by John McCain?
March 16, 2008 4:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rabbitt
I agree with you a very classy response. It is reminescent of the way Obama stood up for Joe Biden in the debates, when Biden was being challenged on his remarks about Obama.
obama spoke right up and vouched for Bidens' character saying he had not experienced any such negativity from Joe.
Mc Cain is doing the same thing here.
This is what you call statesmanship, refusing to get down in the muck and mire and drag this nation to our lowest common denominator by disparaging a man's or nations character.
Contrast this with Hillary who left the door wide open on 60 minutes with her ...'as far as I know' snide aside when asked about Obama being a Muslim.
Just goes to show the differnce in character, dignity and integrity.
March 16, 2008 6:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Three: He's trying to soften the ground to woo Obama supporters should Hillary get the nomination.
Basically a smart strategy.
Ironically, Hillary Clinton currently looks like the most belligerent candidate of the three.
March 16, 2008 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good point. Clinton does seem to look less Presidential because she lets too many things ride, hoping that her ambiguity on denouncing things will let her still be seen as somehow outraged, but yet subtly reinforcing the thing she's denouncing.
March 16, 2008 1:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wonder why this has gotten no play outside of the reader blogs? It would seem that this refutes some of the worry that this may actually kill Obama's chances, no?
I'm also wondering why TPM doesn't post this - and why they keep headlining their main page with the Wright story, when there are so many other things to talk about.
March 16, 2008 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's also a subtle dynamic here that should be reported: Note that McCain sighs at one point... almost as if he is as fed up with FNC and its mindless "journalism" as anyone else.
Hannity must have been upset the way that McCain dodged the bullet -- because he couldn't use his follow on question. So, in true FNC, Hannity asked it anyway.
It must really gall Murdoch that the candidate whom he backs most is Hillary Clinton. What's an opinion maker to do? Who do you focus the insipid hate on that FNC is known it do?
March 16, 2008 1:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I noticed that and mentioned it up above. I was a little surprised at that frank show of emotion. One thing about McCain - I never really think of him as a person who uses each and every nuance for political gain. So he must have been bothered by the line of questioning.
Or it simply was a flashback to what he went through with Hagee.
March 16, 2008 1:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oops! I hate reposting an observation already made!
Cool enough -- it must be obvious if we both saw it!
March 16, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
You haven't been paying attention. McCain can take the high road because his campaign was busy sending out the WSJ editorial by Ron Kessler criticizing Wright and Obama.
You don't think of McCain as a person who uses "each and every nuance" because you've been trained by the press to think of him as a straight shooter.
March 16, 2008 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
McCain can take the high road because his campaign was busy sending out the WSJ editorial by Ron Kessler criticizing Wright and Obama.
And Hillary can't take the high road because ... why?
March 16, 2008 9:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Clinton had nothing to do with this Wright business. This is pure McCain, Steve Nelson bullshit. McCain has a pattern of this kind of dirty trick, the Bill Cunningham issue is a case in point. McCain puts this crap out there and then "denounces" it all the while his campaign is pushing it.
March 17, 2008 11:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Give credit where credit is due. The surrogates from all three campaigns (Including Schumer for Clinton) were trying to get off this issue as a non-issue this weekend. From what I have seen the Clinton campaign has handled this on fairly well.
March 17, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
I find fault with much about McCain. His sucking up to Bush after his defeat in 2000, and caving to the fundies are right at the top of the list. But no one has ever accused him of being carefully scripted and staying on message no matter what. He does say things that are impolitic and that is one thing we can still like about him as we opose his positions on the issues.
I look forward to seeing an Obama v McCain campaign because I think it will be the most substantive debate in more than a generation. Neither candidate is likely to go for the personal trivial destruction of the other that seems to have become the standard mode of discourse in recent elections. I want to see a debate on the issues because on the issues we win.
March 17, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary has just shown that she didn't even pass the threshold test, of protecting and defending, our civil liberties.
My point is this; What preacher Wright stated, should have been a test for all the candidates.
When and if it should occur, that someone or group say's something, and some opposing group demands a "crucifixion".
Yet some claiming a right to be called leaders, hide themselves for fear of alienating the perceived Politically correct class.
Like the "Love it or leave it crowd" of the 60's, or those who found that God Da... is worst than God bless, when in reality, God is not caught up in the petty squabbles of Earthly politics. Probably offended, of association, with any group. Damners or blessers.
How long before we end up like Rwanda, Kenya, and our leaders being afraid, to speak up and protect everyone’s right of opinion, and that's exactly what the preacher was expounding. His opinion.
Those bent on finding fault, with Obama, guilty by association. "You're one of them."
Would our current candidates be so afraid to defend against reprisal? Or did they sit back and say, "I'm glad it's him, not me? Or thank God this may work in my favor"
Then you begin to understand, what it means to protect and defend. Not only your positions and opinions, but also the rights of others, who you may oppose, and disagree with.
This was a perfect example: when the rubber met the road, some of our candidates were more worried about perception, rather than defending everyone’s rights.
When our nation starts the blame game, and pressure mounts, I can assure you, many will suffer, because some of our leaders were cowards and we saw first hand how they responded.
It may be that McCain, after days of political persecution of Obama, showed he finally understands, but if the situation had turnd deadly as some nations have found, Mccains failure to make a statement earlier rather than days later, would be little comfort for the sufferers.
Where is Hillary?
March 16, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Apparently she's busy trying to suppress votes, pad her resume with exaggerations and lie about her finances and voting record.
March 16, 2008 4:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Put yourself in McCain's shoes--
He comes back from iraq, having just seen firsthand more dead American soldiers, having just been escorted through a more violent combat zone in a vehicle surrounded by soldiers, Blackwater guards, Humvees and helicopters.
He barely has time to take off his bullet proof vest, he sits down and Sean Hannity asks him what he thinks about Obama being a member of a church where a preacher says bad things.
I think that sigh was McCain thinking about just walking out of the interview right then and there, but decided to stay.
He's a soldier. He was tortured. His instinct is to go head to head with an opponent on issues--not by talking trash about his friends.
March 16, 2008 4:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
That's a good point. I'm starting to get the sense that McCain is slightly tired of this political gaming. He wants to get it over with - unlike Clinton, he doesn't see this as fun.
March 16, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Was that interview before McCain left for Iraq? If so, sorry, my post above suggests it was after. My point, though, centers around McCain's mindset vs Hannity's, in general, regardless of the date of the interview.
March 16, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
It could be that McCain is practicing to out-Obama Obama. One of the things I've admired about McCain over the years (at least when compared to other Republicans) is his at least apparent honesty and civility. Not that he can't get pissed, but I haven't heard as many lies as one might expect.
McCain and Obama could be the most civil opponents we've ever seen. The 527's and sleazy internet-based attacks would be there, but the tone would be unrecognizable in American politics. Perhaps McCain recognizes that and is already starting to court independents and disaffected Republicans (like my Mormon officemates) who are leaning towards Obama because of his civility.
March 16, 2008 6:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I hate Republicans, they all suck, but I gotta say, for as much as McCain is wrong about so many things, I think he is really a better person than Hillary. He has much more integrity, he isn't shameless and power hungry like her. I don't trust Republicans for shit, but I would trust him before I'd trust her.
That's sad.
March 16, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, that means it's okay then.
I was worried for a minute.
March 16, 2008 8:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, that was big, coming from a Republican Presidentil nominee.
Last Friday, in Morning Joe, Joe and Tucker C. were talking about the same issue and their conclusion is that Sen Obama is a good man and somebody you are comfortable having conversation with. Tucker was saying that he touched on this in one of his shows but not thoroughly. But they look bothered. Bothered that this thing about Sen Obama was exposed? I wonder. Maybe they have changed their political view. Maybe they decided that they are followers of Sen Obama. But wait. Two die hard Republican Goebels changing their political view? I smell a rat. I see a trojan horse.
The suspicious me concluded that they are disappointed that this was exposed too early. Maybe they want Sen Obama first to be the Democratic nominee then they expose this. Then they harp the question of patriotism and racism and bad judgement. Then they are all happy again for another 8 years. Stupid us.
I think I am right in my suspicion.
March 16, 2008 9:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
you forget that Karl Rove (any thing goes) will be running McCain's campaign, and John will do anything Karl says to get in the WH.
That will be your good cop/bad cop scene.
March 16, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think McCain is a genuinely decent human being. It's just a shame that he holds dangerously insane views on foreign policy and is mixed up with a criminal racket like the Republican party.
March 16, 2008 9:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well.... it's obvious: John McCain is also the spiritual ally of an insane man.
March 17, 2008 12:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rich, you influenced me in putting up a post (http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/fox-news-unites-democrats.php).
One note that I'd like to make that I read in the Daily Kos about the whole Wright thing is asking the question why more of the sermons from Rev. Mike Huckabee were never scrutinized. It brings up lots of questions.
"...We have now seen more sermons from Barack Obama's minister in 48 hours than we ever did of Mike Huckabee ---- and Mike Huckabee was a presidential candidate for 14 long months. Why is it acceptable to scour every last sermon given by Wright, but only weeks ago we weren't allowed to see or read Mike Huckabee's sermons? In fact, not only was it totally ignored by the traditional media, but the few times the question of Huckabee's sermons was raised, it was brushed aside as inappropriate.
Why the hypocrisy? After all, Mike Huckabee was an evangelical Southern Baptist minister who's entire campaign was based on the fact that he was the Christian candidate. Are we to believe that he didn't rail against the US government over abortion in previous sermons? Or homosexuality? We know what he had to say about AIDS victims. I don't imagine one gets to be the be president of the Arkansas Baptist Convention without passionate fire and brimstone sermons as part of his repertoire.
So, I find it curious that the traditional media now has its white hot focus on Barack Obama's religion and a few select words by Reverend Jeremiah Wright. After all, Huckabee made his career as an actual preacher. Why the change of heart in the last few weeks? Why does Obama have to be held responsible for every word spoken during Wright's passionate sermons - while Huckabee is allowed a free ride and never questioned about his own words? From his own mouth?"
http://scout-finch.dailykos.com/
March 17, 2008 6:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for link.
I think that McCain - having been royally slimed himself in SC last go 'round v. Bushie - realizes that he's got to take the high road & let the peripherals (527s & surrogates) do the mud slinging or appear to be a hack. I think there's also a sense of honor there. This is the same approach he took w/ Cunningham - immed denounced in stark contrast to a Clinton-surrogate smear that same week where crickets were all you heard from her.
Sadly, also since the Clinton camp has been doing all the dirtying-Obama work for him - no need to get in the fray.
He also knows that FNC will turn on him in a min (as they have in the past) - so he'll give no quarter to them.
He knows that the voters that'll be in play in a GE v. Obama are Indies, Mod-Repubs and angry Hil-supporters - he'd rather not alienate the first 2 groups - who aren't entertained by the sludge.
March 17, 2008 6:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
I rec'd this article. Why this isn't on the TPM Election Central front page ?
March 17, 2008 7:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I've often thought that Josh's idea that McCain will allow surrogates to say one thing, and then for him to dismiss it, ignores the fact that McCain honestly hates smear ads. After all, he was a victim of them himself when running against George Bush.
We can dislike his policies, even his temperament, but I believe McCain really wants to run a smear-free campaign.
March 17, 2008 9:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
And one that will work. If Obama does not get the nomination, and I feel compelled to vote based upon the character and integrity of the candidate, then McCain wins, hands down.
March 17, 2008 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
gah! I did not meant that far, of course.
Think of the Supreme Court! That alone requires a Democrat to be in office, no matter how odious he or she is.
March 17, 2008 10:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think you are on the right track with your second explination as to why McCain handled it this way.
Since there is no Wright or Hagee attached to Hillary Clinton, McCain sees his association with Hagee (and a few others, too) as a disadvantage if he runs against Hillary. So McCain doesn't want to criticize Obama on this. If McCain criticizes too harshly on Wright, it will only play up his own Hagee disadvantage or set a precedent that Clinton will use against him if she wins the nomination.
Just imagine a Clinton ad that depicts McCain criticizing Obama for his association with Wright, then a clip of Hagee war rants and endorsement of McCain. If Obama wins the nomination, the Hagee and Wright rants sort of cancel each other out. So McCain is just implementing a rational strategy here?
Surely the media has been aware of Wright's statements for some time. It's a legit story to cover, but now that's it's down to the wire and Obama is still going strong, there's an all-out, 24/7 media brainwash campaign. Anybody recall hearing the Hagee rants on the news over and over and over for days on end like we have with Farrakhan and Wright?
Gee, should we conclude the status quo media would prefer McCain or Clinton to Obama's change?
I'm really surprised Obama didn't see this coming and renounce Wright long before anybody else had a chance to do it for him.
March 17, 2008 10:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Have you actually read the sermons (or at least the relevant parts) in context? If you had you would see it is mostly a question of how things were said rather than what was said. Fox likes to take them out of context since that makes them a lot more shocking and gety people riled up.
The other thing is generally people I know who regularly go to church don't think this is anything worth getting excited about and that comes from both Republicans and Democrats. The people that seem the most outraged are both right-wing and not regular church goers.
March 17, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Surprised more people haven't mentioned Hagee. It would be a tad hypocritical for McCain to go after Obama on Wright.
My two-cents on Wright (because I haven't posted on the issue before): Unless the guy makes more inflammatory statements on the record, this will be ancient history in a few months. I think it's a problem for Obama, as Ferraro has been a problem for Clinton and Hagee has been a problem for McCain, but anyone who thinks that these problematic relationships are candidacy-defining need to step back a have a little perspective. Every election, there's some asshole that has a relationship with some candidate, and everyone makes a big fuss about it, then a few years late, you can barely remember who the asshole was. It's not that ill-timed news about a problematic relationship has no impact; it's just unlikely to be big enough to determine an election. That said, I do wish that Obama had been more forceful in distancing himself from Wright.
March 17, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
In one of his interviews he said that Wright's statements 'angered and distressed' him. I thought this was his most effective formulation of his distancing statement but he did not repeat it. I was sort of disapointed when he did not.
March 17, 2008 11:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
So McCain is a better Democrat than Hillary!
It's hard to be outclassed by the GOP, but Hillary has.
March 17, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm cynical, this is the most politically adroit thing for McCain to do now. This Wright business is so tainted, it's better to distance oneself asap, leaving Hillary the only plausible dirt merchant out of the 3. He looks clean, honorable and people won't associate this clip with his camapign even if Republicans rolled this out. Funny Hillary didn't come right out to deplore the whole business which makes it hghly likely she's got her hands in this one. She's tarred now. Obama supporters will never forgive her for playing this card.
March 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
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