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Is Hillary Positioning for 2012? (Huffington Post)
The Politico laid it out very clearly yesterday - and solidified what we've known for weeks - this race is over. Obama has the nomination.
Even Hillary Clinton's own campaign admits it! Politico reports, "One important Clinton adviser estimated to Politico privately that she has no more than a 10 percent chance of winning her race against Barack Obama, an appraisal that was echoed by other operatives. In other words: The notion of the Democratic contest being a dramatic cliffhanger is a game of make-believe."
It's somewhat hilarious to watch the media eat up the campaign spin on the record, that she's got a great shot to win this and win the Presidency. Of course, the race gets a whole lot more boring with lower ratings when it's Obama vs. McCain, probably with a huge lull in the campaign, where - God forbid - the news media will actually have to go out and find and report news, and not just campaign talking points sent to them.
I've been trying to figure out for weeks why Hillary Clinton is still in this campaign because the math has been obvious for quite some time now. Even Mitt Romney had the - what would you call it, decency, wisdom, common sense - to drop out after he realized it was mathematically impossible (or next to impossible) for him to win.
There is one possibility as to why Senator Clinton might still be in this race, inflicting heavy damage on the presumptive Democratic nominee. That reason is Hillary 2012.
Now that's a heavy charge. I can't read her mind, so I don't know what her true intentions are. We can only judge based on her actions. Her staff understands and agrees that she has a very, very small chance of winning, but she is still willing to go after front-runner of her own party in the strongest possible words.
Look at what she has said about the man she privately believes will be the Democratic nominee for President:
He has not crossed the "Commander in Chief threshold" like John McCain has.
He cannot be trusted to answer the phone at 3am.
His only experience is a speech from 2002.
That he is disenfranchising voters in Michigan and Florida (even though she agreed to the same rules he did when those states stepped out of line in the primary process).
And, as Bill Clinton intimated yesterday, he doesn't love our country, like Hillary and McCain do.
Those are some serious blows against someone in your own party and might seriously hurt his chances of winning the general election. In fact, every day that Senator Clinton stays in the race is another day she spends money damaging Senator Obama. And every dollar she spends is a dollar in John McCain's pocket.
It almost makes you ask - does she want him to lose?
If Obama wins, then Senator Clinton couldn't run again until at least 2016 (unless something goes terribly wrong). At which point, she would be almost as old as John McCain is now. If she's ever going to become president, she has this narrow window.
On the other hand, if Senator Obama sustains serious political wounds going into the general election and winds up losing, then Hillary Clinton is sitting pretty in 2012.
In four years, John McCain will be 209 years old, and coming off a disastrous first term. We will still be in Iraq and the country will be dying for change. If you thought the voters wanted change now, imagine what the situation will be in 2012. Imagine how starved the electorate will be for a Democrat if McCain just spent four years replicating George W. Bush's policies - as he is adamantly promising to do on the campaign trail.
At that point, Senator Clinton would be able to swoop in and say, "See, you went with Obama last time and he lost, just like I told you. Now, nominate me, and I will take this White House back like we should have four years ago!"
Having narrowly lost to Obama in the primary, she would be in a great position to say "It's my turn! Let's get this right!"
Is she that cynical? Does she care that little about her own party or her own principles? Remember, a McCain win signs us up for more years in Iraq, a possible new war with Iran, an untold number of conservative judges on the Supreme Court, a probable overturn of Roe v. Wade, four more years of economic pain for the lower and middle class and ... no healthcare reform for another four years.
Is anyone that politically craven? To risk all that so they have a better chance of winning in 2012? I hope not. I hope she is just being delusional and thrashing about in misguided desperation as she continues to wound Obama going into the general election.
But if she is doing this on purpose - and she wants Obama to lose this time around so she has a better chance of winning in 2012 - she better make damn sure that news doesn't leak. Because that kind of political crime would be unforgivable. Unforgivable.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/is-hillary-positioning-fo_b_92904.html













Comments (9)
If this race is over, I must have missed when Obama won the delegates he still didn't have last time I checked.
Link?
March 23, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
He won the delegates when his lead became too large for HRC to overcome. He did that a month ago.
March 23, 2008 8:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've actually been suspecting this for the past couple of weeks. It will, of course, remain conjectural, but it does seem in character for Hillary.
It's also one of the reasons I'm hoping Obama wins the presidency. For, if he wins the big one, I really think it will be a changing of the guards in the democratic party -- away, at last, from the hold of the Clintons.
March 23, 2008 7:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dee: You may be right on this as it would be consistent with the cynical nature of Clinton, Inc. ... however; she can no more win in 2012 than she can in 2008. She gave up her right to seek the presidency when she refused to do so in 2004 and could have won. What HRC fails to understand is that her base shrinks each passing day as they die off. The sound strategic move for the Democratic Party is an Obama candidacy and presidency in 2008 as it will herald in 40-plus years of sane, Democratic political dominance a la FDR.
March 23, 2008 8:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
He has the nomination in your head. If he loses PA....why should he have the nomination. Show me the electoral map that allows that? Its not there...UNLESS......You folk want to lose again..which is probably the case.....I hate losing Clinton08
March 23, 2008 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dee read the rest of it. And Merlot are you two serious? Stop watching Fox news. Cynical nature of the clintons? That is straight out of thier playbook? Exactly what is cynical? Balancing the budget and creating jobs....getting folks to belive they can live a good life? Good backing in the world?...what....I don't get it...tell me what is cynical. Winning is cynical? That they don't do the typcial liberal thing and lay over and play dead for republicans? Obamaistas....gotta luv em.
March 23, 2008 8:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I understand the suspicion, but it's not probable. The negative turn the Clinton campaign has taken lately -- praise of McCain, etc. -- would not actually make much sense as positioning for 2012. It has hurt her position in the party at least as much as it has damaged Obama.
No, I think she figures it's now or never, and I think she's right.
Until this weekend, I also think it made perfect sense for her to persevere. If there had been MI and FL revotes, it would have been (barely) possible for her to catch Obama in the popular vote, and generate enough last-minute momentum to win the thing via the supers in early June.
Without the revotes, there's no way the MI/FL issue will be decided until considerably later. And the party isn't going to wait until August to have a candidate.
So it's really just in the last few days that the election has become unwinnable. It's going to take a while to sink in. I think it's actually possible that she will bow out before PA. Not likely, but possible.
March 23, 2008 9:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
You think Jennifer Granholm and the rest of contingent from michigan arent going to go to Denver? Howie Dean made a large miscalulation. I sure hope he understands what he has wrought. If Michigan and Florida broke the rules...why was NH given a free card to move thier primary to be 2nd after things were all agreed? How ludicrous is it that NH/Ia/SC/Neve...could seriously decide the Dem nomination and not Cali/NY/NJ/Ohio/PA/MA/MI where most dems live?
March 23, 2008 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
You think Jennifer Granholm and the rest of contingent from michigan arent going to go to Denver? Howie Dean made a large miscalulation. I sure hope he understands what he has wrought. If Michigan and Florida broke the rules...why was NH given a free card to move thier primary to be 2nd after things were all agreed? How ludicrous is it that NH/Ia/SC/Neve...could seriously decide the Dem nomination and not Cali/NY/NJ/Ohio/PA/MA/MI where most dems live?
March 23, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
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