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I Wish I Was Black!!!

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Silly me. I always thought blacks had it pretty tough. Now I know they're "lucky" to be black.

It seems odd at first. Look at the fact that while "blacks account for only 12 percent of the U.S. population, 44 percent of all prisoners in the United States are black." Or how even though more white people overall use crack cocaine, "blacks constitute the great preponderance of persons prosecuted for federal crack offenses."

Just lucky, I guess! Who knew?

I always thought that since so many people that look like Obama are still called "nigger," or find nooses hanging on their front lawns, or how the overwhelming majority of racially-motivated hate crimes are against blacks, that was something we'd consider *unlucky*.

But, really, it's lucky!

Good to know.

Note: Please look for my next post, entitled:

"I Wish I Was Muslim!!!"


Comments (89)

Excellent post, cscs!!!!

I recommended it - cuz you wish you were black. I'll give you that!

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Being black can be a problem in America but usually not in Kenya. Being black can be a problem in Manhattan but generally not in Harlem. How is it in Hawaii? If you're trying to get elected in a majority black district, is it a disadvantage to be black? If you're a high-rated scientist with flight experience trying to get on the shuttle, does it hurt to be black? If you're going for college admissions and you're competing against a white with the same qualifications, does it hurt to be black?

Yes, there are thousands of ways that being black makes life difficult for millions of blacks in America. But that doesn't mean Barack Obama suffered from all of these. He came from a relatively privileged childhood with a good education and good access to schools. I don't know whether being black hurt or help him in his particular US Senate race at *that time*. Obviously not very blacks have been elected to the Senate, nor have women, but occasionally the "trifecta" comes together to help.

Hillary may be lucky to be an older woman in getting votes from the elderly and females. And loses votes from people who would never vote for a woman. And for ways in her career that a male would obviously be chosen over a female. Is that sexist and agist to say that? Barack is considered good looking - would he get the same kind of support if he looked like Danny DeVito? Well yeah, if he was running in an Italian district against an Irishman. There you have it. We have our differences and different currents in American society and politics. We all have burdens and assistance - some are tilted further one way, some the other. Blacks growing up in New Orleans ghettos had life much worse than blacks growing up in suburban Hawaii. That doesn't mean it's all peaches and cream for the latter, but it doesn't mean it was terrible either, or worse than many whites, Hispanics or Asians might go through. Hey, what about the Chinese that couldn't get citizenship just 70 years ago?


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It is difficult to argue with the crowd here. They have low level of comprehension of anything. Ferraro was saying Obama is in today's situation because he is lucky to be black as a presidential candidate. She never says directly or implies that being a black is overall an advantage for everybody. You are exactly right. Good luck if you run as a white for a congress seat in Harlem. It all depends on the context.

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Ferraro's comment was so taken out of context. All she was saying was that Obama was lucky at the right time to be a black anti-war candidate. Either alone would have not earned him the position now. She never said he's not good. What's wrong being both good and lucky. Saying somebody's lucky is not equal to saying somebody is not good. People are becoming too defensive!

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Anyone who's saying that she was taken out of context is just a racist who's ashamed to be one...Be responsible, assume your beliefs and revendicate your racist. But for God's sake, stop being hypocrites. If you believe tha Negroes are incompetent no matter what they do, even if they graduate from Harvard and teach constitutional law in Columbia, if you think that they're inferior no matter how smart they are, well assume your beliefs.

I am for one fed up of racist people not wanting to assume their beliefs and always speaking about "context". There is no context you fools. There're just racist remarks aimed to show that Obama is an inferior being, a negro who's dumb with no experience (even though he's smart: harvard/columbia etc...)

Wannabe.

Reminds me of the Wall Street Journal's crying over the "lucky duckies" who make under $18,000 a year because they don't have to pay any taxes! Wow, they're so lucky!

I think your snarky remarks about prejudice in society at large really miss the point here.

The point that Ms. Ferraro was trying to make is specific to the US Senate, and to campaigns for president. However hard it may be to be black in society at large, it's extremely *easy* to get into the Senate. There have been, what, three African-American senators, just since 1967?

And running for President -- Jeez! Show me the black man in America who *hasn't* run for president. Basically, once you make it into the House of Representatives, it's smooth sailing the rest of the way.

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I was going to make those points in my upcoming "I Wish I Was A Senator!!!" post...

Ha! I gotta trifecta: I'm black, I'm Muslim and I'm a female.

I'm on easy street, over here.

I'm like a flippin' god to you people.

BOW DOWN!!!!

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fabooj, 2012 is your year. I feel it.

No way, fabooj - you're a fippin God to me because you have "The Stars My Destination" on top of your book list. Now here's a tip: rumor has it that Bester's story is gonna be moviefied - http://www.theendoftheuniverse.ca/node/107

Will they mess it up? Prolly..

Oh wow...yeah, I think they'll mess it up...it is sci-fi. I plan on re-reading it anyway, so that will be neat. Shame that Bester isn't more respected. Seems Dick stole a lot of Bester's stories and got famous off of them.

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better yet if you were also a transexual lesbian with one hand, one eye, one ear, and half mouth missing! Of course, I don't wish any of this on you although nothing wrong with being transexual or lesbian.

How lucky some folks are, to be unlucky!

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And women have it so easy, and so do hispanics, and so do jews and so do immigrants and so do the poor and so do single parents and so do gays...

Hey I'm a half-hispanic woman. I have nothing but contempt for extremists. I'm antiwar. I operate on a small budget in a fairly inept manner....

I think you should all vote for me.

:P

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Why women complain when the have it so easy is beyond me - 135,000 sexual assaults every year, 79,000 rapes, the most interesting statistic being the "injured" or "not injured" statistic. Oh those angry white females...

Bev, don't be divisive.

You see we're into post-racial politics here, where we don't consider race an issue except as an assumed handicap and hurdle that every black person has overcome to get to where they are.

But being a white woman, you wouldn't understand - you can get a job in any diner or as a nurse or volunteer in a craft shop or even as a grade school teacher and no one will hold you back. You can even get something a bit more upscale if you don't suffer too much from "female problems" and don't let family issues distract you from work. And you have a leg up - if you go out with the boss, you might get advanced faster. The guys can only go have drinks and discuss business - how much of a career booster is that?

And you can probably avoid all these sexual attacks and such if you dress appropriately. Isn't it the "hotties" that have most of the problem with this? Oh, it isn't? Never mind.

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No one ever explained it so well, Desidero, thanks.

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Yeah, that's the point.

In fact, I'd say what really determines luck in this country is money.

If you've got money, it's amazing the amount of serendipitous luck that seems to spring up around you each day.

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Okay, cscs, tell me what qualitative difference there is in Obama surrogates claiming that Clinton got where she is because she married Bill, and Clinton surrogates claiming that Obama got where he was because he's black? Geraldine Ferraro pops off and Maxim Thorne pops off and what does it prove? That people get so emotionally involved in this shit that they act like assholes. That's the point.

Personally, I think supporters on both sides have gone off the deep end. For every single claim made by an Obama supporter, a Clinton supporter can match it, venomous point by venomous point.

It is only on the candidates reactions to these gaffes that they should be judged. Clinton fails again.

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I don't think so ... Hillary and her camp have far exceeded Obama's on such slime! An easy out trying to say they are both equally guilty about this stuff.

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Ummmmmmmm..no.

The difference is this: One of these claims is demonstrably true, the other is demonstrably false. One of these claims has nothing to do with race or gender, but rather the choices that someone has made, and the other has nothing to do with anything except race. See?

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Except that, as DF says, it's not true that Obama got to where he is because he's black.

I'd say in spite of that fact. There's no way being black in this country can ever be construed as "lucky."

It's easy to argue the "pox on both houses," and I not so sure what that gets you. Sure, each campaign is going to have supporters say stupid things -- we're all going to have our own personal lines that are crossed, and we're all going to have to decide which statements are worse than others.

I don't agree that each one cancels the other out.

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I'm not arguing "a pox on both their houses" I'm pointing out that both campaigns have supporters who are popping off and saying stupid things. The problem here is a complete and utter lack of objectivity and maturity by supporters of either side. Obama supporters say just as offensive things, but I see absolutely no recognition of that with these posts.

It is this childish reasoning to think that everything you say is right and good and everything someone else says is wrong and bad that is ridiculous. Maxim Thorne made some pretty damned filthy allegations about Clinton but you wouldn't know that from the news. Douglas Wilder claimed there would be rioting in the streets if Obama didn't get the nomination, but that didn't even rate a mention and those are but two examples of how outrageous this has become.

I don't criticize Obama, I don't write shitty posts about him, I don't whine and complain about him, because I know when this is over we're going to have one candidate and one shot to stave off catastrophe for four years.

Except that, as DF says, it's not true that Obama got to where he is because he's black.

You're right. He didn't get to where he is today because he's black. He's just ridiculously lucky. He trailed the Democratic senatorial primary front-runner, Blair Hull, until he got tackled with domestic abuse claims.

Then, of course, Jack Ryan pulled out as the Republican candidate, because of sexual impropriety. Obama's eventual Senatorial opponent was Alan Keyes.

Oooo... tough Senatorial race, there.

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Upcoming post: I wish TPM Cafe had an edit function on their blogs!!!

(Doesn't have the same punch as snarking on this race issue, but...a freakin' blog editor to fix formatting problems would be nice.)

Only in America would the first African American to get this close to the nomination be accused of having it easy because he's black.

If you're wondering what Michelle Obama meant about finding it hard to be proud of America, this is one of the reasons.

Personally, I've started to think that Ferraro is saying this to take the steam out of Obama's Mississippi win. Think about it. Black people are only voting for Obama because they're black! To wit, the black vote doesn't matter! Don't believe me?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080312/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_exit_poll

Tonya Harding became notorious for allegedly conspiring to harm competitor Nancy Kerrigan in an attack, which occurred on January 6, 1994 at a practice session during the 1994 U.S. Figure Skating Championships in Detroit. Harding's ex-husband Jeff Gillooly and Shawn Eckhardt[5] hired Shane Stant to strike Kerrigan on the knee. Harding won that event, while Kerrigan's injury forced her withdrawal. After Harding admitted to helping to cover up the attack, the USFSA and United States Olympic Committee initiated proceedings to remove her from the 1994 Olympic team, but Harding retained her place after threatening legal action.

Similarities?

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Are you suggesting Obama and Clinton decide this whole primary with a figure skating competition?

If so, I am SO totally for that...

Yes, Ice Dancing!!!

As I recall that was the competition, where you were supposed to get your "turn" and it all turned on whether the judges were giving marks for the couple whose "turn" it was to win or for the couple that really did the best

Many times I've thought that this primary looked like the Ice Dancing competition.

Finally we're getting around to the real issues!

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Clinton would lament the unfair advantage in the 'Dancing' part of the competition. Snark alert.

Obama would need to, you know, see how well she dances first.

I have a post in the works to this effect. Just so you don't accuse me of plagiarism.

And I'm lucky to be a white man because now I get to be the victim. White power!!!!!

Plagiarism won't be a problem unless you alert the Canadians. In that case it would be water-boarding on ice! Quite the competition!

Believe me, I intend to stay as far away from Canada as possible. I'm already wanted on like 8 counts of aggravated plagiarism in British Columbia. They have my picture up in the post offices. (And they darkened my skin color too.)

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heh heh

Hey, where the heck have you been the last few days?

The conversations around here have been mighty heavy in the last few days. We need you and cscs to keep us sane with your humor.

Trying to keep my head above water. I'll be back, as a wise man once said.

Funny you should mention that (darkening your skin color.) I'm trying to unravel something. While channel surfing, I saw Bill O'Reilly display two Obama pix on his show, and one was darker than the other. Bill-o was making a point that the darker pix was used by the Clinton campaign. Ambient lighting aside, was Orally suggesting the Clintons were playing the race card, or was he pointing out incompetence (with regard to the cscs postulate we are discussing?)

The real question was how Bill-o escaped Oberman's "Worstest Person in the World" award for this? How that that get under the radar?

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The Canadians have outlawed waterboarding. Instead they make you watch curling on TV until you beg to talk.

Knitting is so blaise, I want to see a triple salchow with a twist. The winner is the one who can recite their stump speech while doing the move repeatedly throughout.

Now That's a contest!

Excellent! You get high marks for that one! Possibly the audience will win this one!

Yeah. I've noticed it several times during this campaign. ;-) Although, I didn't look at all the detail like you did. I just noticed early on, with the "help" of her campaign strategists and Bill, a great candidate was starting to look like the Tonya Harding of the 2008 Dem primaries.

And now this. It's pitiful that we're submerged into this mess that has many Dem voters arguing over who is more entitled to win the nomination, based on which of the candidates is the bigger victim. Crazy.

Check out a good piece in the current issue of The Nation:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080324/williams

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What does this have to do with anything?

Nothing at all, BevD.. nothing at all.

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Thank you, finally someone who agrees.

Nothing at all, BevD.. nothing at all.

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I have it within my powers to grant your wish. You are black. We all are. Just as Obama is [ugh] white.

See how easy this race stuff is?

Ferraro and Hillary are in for some bad hurt however.

Not much can be done about that.

Best, Terry

P.S. Nice post.

Uh, haven't you been receiving your orders from the Female establishment. Being female is unbelievably...unbelievably hard, that is why Clinton is still considered a contender after losing twice as many states, down a million in the popular vote and 3 digits in delegates.

Every vote for Barack is a vote for continuing the oppression of white rich former first ladies everywhere!

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presidentraygun,

Every vote for Barack is a vote for continuing the oppression of white rich former first ladies everywhere!

True.

Thank you so much for pointing out this horrendous threat.

Best, Terry

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again it's post like this that are becoming insulting to blacks i know. farraro was specking of OBAMA's experience not blacks in general. to site that his luck and accepetance for blacks is representative to what many other blacks experience is unacceptable. there are some blacks who whites find accepetable. (how many times have i been told ...well michell your different)...once they find you acceptable they appreciate the ability to work with you to feel better about themselves and enjoy you as the wonderful person you are regardless of race. many of them will be the first to say the ole line...you know i'm not racist cuz i have black friends. whites here are going off track and should be careful as you are starting to insult blacks without realizing it. many in the country wish to end racism on some level. hence BARACK, who is an "acceptable" black is benefitting from his race. he is also reasonably accomplished and well spoken. he is actually lite on the experience side in my book and look forward to him cutting down a bit on his ambition and doing the real work that shows me who he really is on issues over the next 8 years. after that, i think he is well qualified to be elected president.

Amazing how all these white women have such a deep understanding of the black male experience.

She's a black woman.

May even be a short black woman.

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Why do you hate women so much?

Oh, you became a parody of yourself months ago, but this a flippin' hilarious comment.

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What does that mean, "a parody of yourself"?

Not big on cultural reference are you? Why do you hate America, fabooj?

BevD,

All these tantrums just because your candidate is not winning?

Dunno. Maybe he's just prone to it--like those libruls who hate America.

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I do not HATE women. I'm just a Black Muslim Plagiarist who LOVES to beat them.

OK, so I'm not Black or Muslim, but you can't deny that I'm a pretty good plagiarist. I just repeated a Clinton campaign claim about Barack almost verbatim. But that's OK. It's not entirely a lie either.
He is sort of Black in case you haven't noticed. (He's actually a lot like Tiger Woods. I wonder if Hill would like to settle things on the links?)
And he has been beating her regularly, (but you shouldn't pay any attention to that.)

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Oh read my blog about this topic.

From a post titled "I wish I was Black" we infer that cscs hates women?

Huh?

I wish I had a sense of humor.

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Me too!

:-)

Actually, she was making a joke..."why do libruls hate America"....

BevD apparently has a great sense of humor--she just doesn't let it show often enough.

Hey I may be white but I think Obama is only in this because he is tall and that all Americans have a general aversion to short men! Come on almost all of our presidents have been tall white men, never mind whether there weren't women or minorities. First things first, we need to accept our bias towards tall people, especially those with big heads, over small people before we can deal with gender or race. Everyone knows that if Barack Obama was 5'3" he wouldn't have prayer in the race!

James Buchanan would like a word with you.

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And Stephen Douglas would like a word with you...

who me? I am short stop spitting your bias in my direction, although to be fair your spit went over my head!

And Pope Cornelius "Action" Jackson would like a word wi....AHHH I suck at these shorter men of history games.

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pssst...Madison...

Hush you I'm trying to think of short politicians!

All the women would qualify.

And Dennis Kucinich.

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not the cupcakes, the president...

What do you think of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU

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That's just weird. Obama's a mac daddy?

New post idea: "I Wish I Was A Mac Daddy!!!"

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Oh my gosh this guy is an embarrassment to the human race. I've seen his a couple of his videos: complete nutcase and a cultist.

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Isn't it, "I wish I *were* black"? No? Oh. What was OJ's book, "If I Had Done It?" So would Gerry's be, "If I HAD Been Black?" I am very confused by all of this subjunctive/conditional stuff. I only learned it for French.

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Yeah, that stuff always gets me, too.

But it's a blog -- we don't have editors! So who cares!

:-)

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Rettet dem Dativ!

Excellent.

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Thanks for the comic relief, although I guess it wasn't quite enough to overcome my mood of the moment because I find myself absolutely compelled to say, "...and I voted for this woman?" (Ferraro)

And I also feel compelled to say that Nader is sounding a lot more sensible right about now...

(Sorry, cscs...try as I might, I just couldn't find anything funny to say about the ongoing destruction of the Democratic party by all this ugly nonsense. Good thread though. :) )

BevD writes:
"tell me what qualitative difference there is in Obama surrogates claiming that Clinton got where she is because she married Bill, and Clinton surrogates claiming that Obama got where he was because he's black?"

Others have had a try at this, but here goes. A) The first thing hasn't happened. Show me one person affiliated with the campaign who has made such a claim with impunity. B) If "Obama surrogates" were to say such a thing, they wouldn't be evoking well-worn racist code for "affirmative action let the black and brown people take your jobs away, Pennsylvania!" and C) While you'd have a hard time proving that any substantial number of people voted for Obama for State Senate, or Senate, or Democratic nominee because he's black, it's pretty incontrovertible that Hillary's main claim to "experience" is her time as First Lady, and since we haven't yet elected a woman as president in the U.S., and since Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, ergo: she'd pretty much need to be a woman to have gotten where she is.

Clear now?

i don't want to rock the boat, but i have always felt extremely lucky to be bi-racial, although it has been difficult for people to recognise and treat that with respect. Ferraro's comments are inexcusably uninsightful and unconstructive however - and, i nearly forgot, just plain wrong.

I'm glad I'm white.

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Perhaps Jim Crow Hillary Clinton will address the John Birch Society in the near future. It would certainly not come as a surprise, given what we have witnessed thus far. Denigrating ethnic minorities, insulting their intelligence and their commitment to this republic. Openly appealing to every hidebound bigot in the nation. Why not make it official, Jim Crow Hillary? Why not abandon the subtle racism and adopt the overt variety?

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