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Hillary Supporter who will NOT vote for Obama
I am another one who will not vote for Obama in the general. McCain will beat him soundly and Hillary will run in 4 years if she cannot make it this time. Obama's dirty laundry that has not been revealed yet will allow an easy McCain win so we better hope that Hillary wins the primary.
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Who are you kidding? In another comment you said you preferred McCain to Obama. If that's the case, you're either a conservative or an idiot.
March 22, 2008 9:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, this post was a whole lot of empty speculation and thumbsucking. I have little love for Hillary Clinton, but ultimately, voting Democrat this time around is a duty that goes beyond all emotional investment. Clinton isn't who I want, but like hell I'm voting for a hundred more years of war and Bush tax cuts. Obama supporters should take notice, too.
Really, I wouldn't do this. A vote for McCain is flushing the toilet on our soldiers, on innocent lives in the Middle East, and on the economy. I'm not going to enable that kind of loss on even an abstract level. And I can guarantee you aren't going to walk away from your spite-vote/non-vote feeling any better about your decision. Do the right thing come November, regardless of who's the nominee.
I mean, Jesus. Listen to yourself.
March 22, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
...so Hillary has NO dirty laundry to be revealed is she somehow gets the nomination?
This is the thing that has been bugging me lately. Between Whitewater, Monica/Bill/Impeachment, the 1993 health care fiasco, Bill's financial dealings since 2000, Hillary's exaggeration/lies about her "experience" in Bosnia, Northern Ireland etc., you're trying to tell me that Hillary would have LESS baggage in the general than Obama? With Bill Clinton as the "first gentleman" candidate standing next to her?
Good luck.
Oh, and a couple more things. Whether people realize it or not, this is Hillary's last serious run for the White House, win or lose. She's burned so many bridges among Democrats that the likelihood of her getting the type of institutional support in 2012 that she enjoyed at the beginning of this campaign are next to zero.
Finally, I think it's despicable that people (on both sides) are prepared to let their grapes sour to the point that they won't support a Democrat for the White House this year just because it's not THEIR Democrat.
Grow up. There are bigger issues here than either of these candidates - the war, our financial crisis, not to mention the SUPREME COURT. To pout and stay home this November just because Hillary is getting beat fair-and-square in the primary is beyond childish - it's anti-Democratic.
March 22, 2008 10:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
BFD
March 22, 2008 10:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did you used to throw your toys out of the crib when you were a baby too?
March 22, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
i have 2 brothers on their FIFTH tour of duty in iraq and a sister who was an army medic who came back from afghanistan with severe burns and disfigurement. i have friends and relatives who lost their homes in the foreclosure. i had to come home from college because my parents couldn't pay. i've had to forgo my medication for severe depression and anxiety that was likely due to my family being in Iraq and the injury to my sister. i could not afford it. you don't know what your vote means. and you're selfish if that's how you are going to go about it. your vote shouldn't be just for yourself and your personal and emotional investment in your candidate of choice. you should think about the people suffering and vote for their sake. i have been an active supporter of obama and will vote for hillary, even if the superdelegates overturn the pledged delegates. what about you?
March 22, 2008 10:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
No
March 22, 2008 11:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Got a question for you, mary cesario: are you twelve years old? If so, your petulance is excusable (although my ten-year-old niece has a better grasp on reality). If not, you need to wake up and smell the mochachino -- if we don't elect a Democrat president this year, the Republicans will make permanent the damage they've already done; and it will take many, many years to get our country back. It's really that simple.
I voted for Nader in 2000. In 2008, I will vote for Papa Smurf, if he's the Democratic nominee.
March 22, 2008 10:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Again, further sad proof that Hillary and her supporters care more about winning than they do about their country or their party. And you say this like you're proud of yourself?!!
March 22, 2008 10:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
At least give some reasoning other than McCain will beat him and Hillary can run again in 4 years. At least others go to the effort to make their decision seem less selfish.
March 22, 2008 11:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
And do not forgot all the fundraising scandals--which Obama's people have not been getting into. You can bet the Republicans will. Remember all the pardon-gates? Mark Rich's wife gave 400K to the Clinton library. Norman Hsu? All those Chinatown donations?
To argue that we should vote for Hillary because Obama has dirty laundry is absurd. The swiftboaters are going to have a field day. Do you remember the 90s? All of it, again, Rose Law Firm, Whitewater, Monica, Travelgate...
And I'm pretty upset with Hillary Clinton, but not so upset that I'd vote for John McCain. I'm not going to vote to kill other women's sons and daughters because I'm in a political hissy fit.
March 22, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
What is more important to you:
The person or the ideas and issues that she stands for?
Because if you actually care about the issues, Obama would be more in line with Clinton than McCain as president.
If the actual person, rather than what they stand for, is more important to you, then I suggest you sit out in November when Hillary does not get the nomination.
March 22, 2008 11:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
The shell life of Democrats who fail to make the cut on the first run is rather short, so if you think that Hillary will be viable after 4 years of the McCain administration I think that you are in for a rude awakening. Go back and look at the success of failed nominees and also rans in mounting a successful comeback. I think that you suffer under the illusion that in 4 years there won't be another upstart who does think that Hillary is the ordained savior of the Democratic party, much less the country.
March 23, 2008 1:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
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