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Hillary Has Found Her Voice and It's Republican
After months of chameleon-like changes with her campaign strategies, Hillary Clinton has finally found her true voice. Surprise, surprise, it's Republican! With all the venom of a Karl Rove or the late Lee Atwater, who to his credit sought forgiveness for his actions, Hillary has unleashed a barrage of innuendos, record distortions, fear-mongering, race-baiting, and flat out lies aimed towards Barack Obama, that would make most right-winged Republicans recoil.
Hillary isn't just using the Republican playbook, she's releasing her own edition. It's a win at any cost strategy that will surely cost Democratic Party unity in November. If Hillary benefits from her ill-advised tactics, in the fall a lot of people will have to decide which Republican candidate is more acceptable. Today in a vote between Hillary and John McCain, I choose McCain.
Right now for Democrats and voters at large, the choices couldn't be clearer. If we want more of the same old rhetoric, the same old Democrat/Republican partisanship, the same old Red State/Blue State mentality, the same old class/race/religion divisiveness, the same old war, the same old Machiavellian Clintonism, which has revealed its true stripes with an air of entitlement, then vote for Hillary Clinton.
However, if we want civility in governance, like-minded Republicans and Democrats working together to find those real solutions that Hillary touts (because leadership does start at the top), if we want to unite the country and truly have a United States of America with it's people working together instead of placing a dagger in each other's backs at every opportunity, if we want to achieve real change or at least have the faith that real change can occur in our lifetime, because "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" (Heb. 11:1), then vote for Barack Obama.
For the United States of America, it's our Robert Frost moment where,
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and
I--I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."








Comments (36)
That's the conventional wisdom -- out with Hillary and the old partisan politics, in with Barack and a new era of bi-partisan statesmanship. Just one problem, their Senate records speak volumes otherwise. Hillary was re-elected overwhelmingly as Senator in New York because she surprised Republicans and won their respect by reaching across party lines. She has a good record of co-sponsorship, and signing on to bi-partisan bills (as does John McCain on the other side, for that matter). Obama, with the most liberal voting record in the Senate, is often the dissenter who opposes bi-partisanship. Read:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/29/AR2008022902784.html
March 4, 2008 12:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'd sure love to have a Democrat who talks like a centrist and votes like a liberal, instead of a Democrat who talks like a centrist and votes like a Republican, particularly one who votes for their $3 trillion dollar wars.
March 4, 2008 6:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey TrueBlue,
Hillary will not have any loyalty to you either. Maybe you should think about that before you go off defending her.
Just remember that black widows kill their mates. And Hillary has shown her true colors today complete with the little red hour glass on her belly.
March 4, 2008 12:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why don't you try responding to TrueBlue without using any gender-based attacks?
Oh, I see, you can't because there is nothing in your post except a gender-based smear. Does that mean that unless you resort to sexism and misogyny you have nothing to say?
March 4, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
The reason why Obama's voting record in Congress is more liberal than Hillary's is that he favored an independent public integrity office in the senate deemed to be liberal (I guess that would equate conservatism and corruption, which is pretty much how I see it).
So now Hillary supporters are using labels from the Lee Atwater playbook to attack Obama. It must really feel good to dig back 28 years to lift political tactics from the man who gave us Reagan and his two Bushes, before recanting on his deathbed from a brain tumor. Congrats, Hillary, nice work.
March 4, 2008 1:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
I found a keeper quote in the OP:
"Hillary isn't just using the Republican playbook,she's releasing her own edition."
Excellent zinger.
March 4, 2008 1:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
"My illness helped me to see that what was missing in society is what was missing in me: a little heart, a lot of brotherhood. The '80s were about acquiring -- acquiring wealth, power, prestige. I know. I acquired more wealth, power, and prestige than most. But you can acquire all you want and still feel empty. What power wouldn't I trade for a little more time with my family? What price wouldn't I pay for an evening with friends? It took a deadly illness to put me eye to eye with that truth, but it is a truth that the country, caught up in its ruthless ambitions and moral decay, can learn on my dime. I don't know who will lead us through the '90s, but they must be made to speak to this spiritual vacuum at the heart of American society, this tumor of the soul."
- Lee Atwater, 1991
Many have indicted the surprisingly successful campaign of Barack Obama as empty and superficial, the stuff of cheap marketing ploys and mere sophistry. I contend that he is attempting to fill the very void that Atwater described.
The most cynical part of me sees the Democratic primary as this choice: Behind door number one, there is more of the same. Triangulation, calculation, vicious partisanship, corporatism. Behind door number two is a possibility. Not a guarantee, but a possibility. Will Barack Obama indeed come to fill this vacuum? Only time will tell, but what choice is there? I can tell you that neither Hillary Clinton nor John McCain will.
I'm not a gambler, but when I've dabbled in it I've learned that caution rules the day. I have friends who gamble that like to say, "You have to bet big to win big." Truly, you also have to bet big to lose big. I don't contest that Obama represents a gamble of sorts. He is relatively young, his career relatively brief, but the last seven years have shown us that a gilded resume does not a leader make. Who had a better resume than Donald Rumsfeld? Or Dick Cheney?
At the end of the day, I see the choice between Obama and Clinton as a choice between a most certain continuation of our current trajectory and the possibility of charting a new course. Perhaps Barack Obama will turn out to be just like Hillary Clinton. Perhaps he is only paying lip service to the ideals that he describes. Perhaps he will only concern himself with the interests of power and not the interests of people. But if this does turn out to be the case I do not see how we have lost anything. We have no alternatives and we will not get another chance like this again.
There are forces at work right now that will most assuredly make these discussions impossible in the future. I take it as a terrible omen that the success of Starbucks is flagging. This might sound silly, but it represents that the days of American excess, of vast amounts of cheap money, are coming to a close. We must tighten our belts. We must become educated and industrious. We must get out of debt and learn to live much, much leaner lifestyles. Petroleum is only going to get more expensive and more scarce and this will undermine everything that we attempt to do.
I don't think we'll get another opportunity to take a chance on someone like Barack Obama. I expect the election in 2012 to be one that will be conducted on completely different terms. The story then will not be Iraq, it will be Iran, Russia and China. The 21st century will be defined by competing geostrategies that endeavor to control the last vestiges of petroleum on planet Earth. The cabal that has been running our government for the last seven years has already begun our first moves in this new era. This is what is meant by a "New American Century." When Dick Cheney says that our "way of life is not negotiable" he is not talking about fast food and faster cars. If you think that the fear exhibited in the wake of 9/11 was startling, just wait until we're engaged head on with Iran. Kyl-Lieberman is not simply some token piece of legislation. Ahmadinejad has been in Iraq this week and this will continue. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if we find ourselves in conflict with Iran before the year is out. If you don't think Hillary Clinton's vote on Kyl-Lieberman is significant, think again. If you think she merely exhibited poor judgment in her votes on the Iraq war, think again. These facts are not unknown to her.
It is of the utmost importance that we are united in facing these challenges. I suspect that those who have so easily written off the leadership skills that Obama has exhibited in this campaign simply do not understand that a continuation of the politics that we've seen in the Bush-Clinton-Bush era will cost us more than they imagine. It's not just a matter of liberals and conservatives bickering on websites. This will come to to look like a frivolous luxury in the days ahead. Fellow blogger clearthinker has observed that he thinks the discussion of health care won't even last until November. If we start to see gasoline move above $4/gal. this summer I think he will be proved correct.
None of the minor policy differences between Obama and Clinton are relevant in the slightest. What matters is who will be able to lead. Some have observed that Obama bears some similarities to Reagan, but they seem to mean this as some sort of slur against him. I say, good. That's what we need right now.
March 4, 2008 7:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
DF--you are drinking the kool-aid...That was powerful and insightful. It beautifully summarized the driving dynamic behind the Obama campaign.
The Clinton campaign seems to draw a lot of folks that want to stick it to the Republicans. Who doesn't want payback? But as an American, I want a unified country and a leader I look to with pride. I don't want four or eight more years of the Clinton/Bush, red state/blue state dance.
March 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
DF - your post is dead on. You nailed it. People need to see this election as a watershed moment, an opportunity for a new wave.
The Bush years have been so awful that we actually have an opportunity right now. For so long, being "liberal" was a four-letter word. However, the reality of the times we are living in show that Americans are open and ready for a new message, a new paradigm, where we can actually talk about government making a difference in peoples lives again - for the better. This just wasnt possible during the cold war years - but maybe now, we can start to have an adult discussion in this country on what we the people need.
Hillary Clinton is making this impossible at the moment because it is all about her, and gaining power. She is making it impossible to have a discussion on these issues because she is too busy making innuendos about who Obama is, and "scaring up" votes. Enough already.
And no, I'm not drinking kool-aid. I have read both of their books, and Obama clearly, from the beginning of his career, was and remains in politics for altruistic purposes.
Not so with Hillary.
March 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
The only problem I have with this post is your quoting Hebrews. It does not take faith to see what Obama has to offer. Look at his record. He has cosponsored legislation with Republicans on tough issues like nuclear disarmament and ethics reform. Hillary just crosses the asile to bring home the pork. That is what got her re-elected
March 4, 2008 7:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Larry, in all fairness, I should point out that in addition to Hebrews, I also quoted Robert Frost. But let's stay on task.
Hillary is known for saying that she would be a tougher foe for the Republicans. If Obama survives Hillary, believe me when I say, that Obama will have been tested by the best that the Republicans could offer. Hillary hails from a family of Republicans and apparently she feels comfortable returning to her roots. What her campaigning is doing lacks integrity.
Too many people make money off the misery index so they work hard to perpetuate it. Mark Penn got paid $10 million for what. You can bet it wasn't to bring folks together.
I hope that the country will move towards motive change. But Obama can't do it by himself. The people have to decide that enough is enough. Like many of the other movements that have taken place in this country, it will probably take the young people to be that catalyst. I hope that they keep their energy and be the real change agents.
March 4, 2008 1:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
I couldn't agree more! When Clinton said something like, "Make no mistake, there are men in caves plotting to hurt us," she had gone over to the Dark Side. She sounds and acts like a Republican, and her little smear about Obama's Christianity, "as far as I know," was the capper for me.
As for quoting scripture? I don't need faith for this election because of what I've seen. I've seen Clinton help get us into a war that will cost three trillion dollars according to a Nobel Laureate who has penetrated the lies and distortions of Pentagon budgets and administration reports. I've seen her act like a demagogue when she voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and the anti flag-burning amendment. Both of these were loathsome sops to the right wing, and utterly shameful. Yes, if she's the nominee, I'll have to vote for her because McCain is dangerous, but I will do so reluctantly. I have lost all respect for her over the course of the campaign.
March 4, 2008 8:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
She is Karl Rove as far as I'm concerned.
http://thepersonalispolitical.tumblr.com/post/27622528
March 4, 2008 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
If there are enough skeletons in Obama's closet for Hillary to defeat him in the primary, what do you think that the Republicans would do to him in the general?
Obama has a long history with Rezko that has not been fully investigated and which Obama has done his best to obfuscate -- you can't google 'a certain individual' but you can google Tony Rezko and it is worthwhile. Obama should not have run until he was able to tell a straight story about that relationship. So far he has not.
Obama is the one who maintained for a week that no one in his campaign had met with the Candadians. Now either the senior official in his campaign omitted to tell the campaign or Obama thought we would buy the line that the senior official was acting under his alternate capacity as a professor. All of this is Obama -- not Clinton.
Obama is the one who has disunited this party. Some can see through him and some can't.
March 4, 2008 11:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
AJM, the question isn't what the Repubs can do with the meager fodder at hand against O. Sure, they'll exploit the Rezko connection, though it's been scrutinized by the Chicago media for years and there's nothing new forthcoming. The question is: who will be more vulnerable to the Repub attack machine? The answer is not O.
While the O campaign has had the dignity and class to raise none of the Clinton baggage specifically, you better believe it's going to come screaming back at the the electorate if HRC is the nominee. The ironies are astounding... O has not sought to capitalize on HRC's greatest weakness, a history which renders her unelectable, and his failure to do so could result not only in his losing the nomination, but in delivering victory to the Repubs. It's pathetic to see a Dem party leader trodding the path to defeat by embracing Repub tactics, denying us the chance to move beyond fear and smear as the center of our electoral discourse.
March 4, 2008 12:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
AJM, Newsflash. Obama is running against a former closet Republican now. Is there really a difference between running against one that is not in the closet?
March 4, 2008 2:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think she's a 'closet' former Republican. She was president of the Wellesley Republican Club and an acknowledged Goldwater Republican. It's out there, it's just that nobody really cares to look at such things as a candidate's past associations or voting records while in office.
Her foreign policy votes (not just on Iraq and the Patriot Act, but also on Feinstein/Leahy cluster bomb resolution and Kyl/Lieberman) show that she is still quite hawkish on foreign policy, and didn't stray far from her Republican roots there.
http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/special/forums/candidates/clinton.html
March 4, 2008 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't give a fig about Rezco. I'm supposed to be angry Obama's campaign talked to Canada and forget Hillary helped give us a $3 trillion war!
March 4, 2008 6:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
The skeletons you need to worry about are Hillary's. So far, Obama supporters are trying to play nice and follow his example. Some with more success than others. My copy of the Obama volunteer handbook contains explicit instructions that we are not to speak disparagingly of other candidates. His wishes on this point are crystal clear. But...I don't think discipline can hold for much longer. Pretty soon, the people who know where the Clinton's bury their secrets are going to start speaking out.
Her supporters have been complaining with very little to complain about. I hope they are ready to stand the heat. It's coming.
March 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
You have got to be joking, right? You say the Obama supporters are following discipline, holding back, not speaking disparagingly and that" I don't think discipline can hold for much longer." Did you not read what was posted above?
She's called a black widow; she is called Karl Rove; Lee Atwater and a closet Republican and if you read elsewhere here at TPC, she's called a racist, shrill, a harridan and on and on. What holding back and what discipline are you talking about?
March 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
"You say the Obama supporters are following discipline, holding back, not speaking disparagingly and that" I don't think discipline can hold for much longer." Did you not read what was posted above? "
Um, that was a TPN poster's opinion. Not something that is in an Obama ad. Hillary's campaign has ruined my assessment of her husband; I actually see him as the scheming shit that he is. As for Hillary, she has made me embarassed to be a Democrat.
March 4, 2008 8:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rezko = Whitewater.
It's a shame after 16 years of Democrats defending the Clintons against the sham that was Whitewater, we're right back at it. This time, the Clintons playing the part of Jeff Gerth and the Arkansas Project. They say there are "unanswered questions" and "suspicious timelines" but just like with Whitewater, there is no accusation - let alone proof - that Obama did anything wrong.
Welcome back to 1992. Brought to you by Hillary Clinton.
March 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rezko = Whitewater.
It's a shame after 16 years of Democrats defending the Clintons against the sham that was Whitewater, we're right back at it. This time, the Clintons playing the part of Jeff Gerth and the Arkansas Project. They say there are "unanswered questions" and "suspicious timelines" but just like with Whitewater, there is no accusation - let alone proof - that Obama did anything wrong.
Welcome back to 1992. Brought to you by Hillary Clinton.
March 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Damn straight.
Instead of remembering all of the slanderous charges of Whitewater, Rose Law, Vince Foster, Ron Brown's death, lucky investments, etc. and the true charges of Bill's womanizing...
..Hillary decides to dish the dirt herself against a fellow Democrat and painting a Republican in a better light than Obama???
Remember back (I'm sure someone has the clip) when Hillary said her favorite Bible verse was the Golden Rule (Treat others as you wish to be treated). Typical Hypocrite Clinton. No worries, she can rest assured that when McCain (with MUCH more experience and MUCH better Nat'l Security credentials) and his GOP slime-machine will treat her exactly as she's treated Obama. When he really gets to rattling Hillary's skeletons, Hillary best not come to Obama supporters looking for help. None will be coming.
While I will vote for the Democratic nominee whoever that person is, I can assure you that if it is her, it will be done while holding my nose. I hope true Democrats turn their backs to her at the convention...and if she loses the nomination, she shouldn't get to speak at the convention at all.
The Clintons are dead to me now.
March 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Amen.
And just like Whitewater, the "answers" are either right under our nose...from the Chicago Sun-Times (the paper that is still waiting for that one-on-one interview with Obama) here's a one-on-one interview with Obama from last year:
Q: How many fundraisers has Mr. Rezko hosted for you? Were these all in his home? How much would you estimate he has raised for your campaigns?
OBAMA: He hosted one event at his home in 2003 for my U.S. Senate campaign. He participated as a member of a host committee for several other events. My best estimate was that he raised somewhere between $50,000 and $60,000.
And yes members of the Illinois Project he underestimated the amount raised (actually ~$120K), but that's pretty much a distinction without a difference. Because even if Rezko had raised $120 million, it still begs the question - what is the actual accusation against Obama?
March 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
HRC is a loser and she's acting like a sore one. It's sad she wants to take the party and the country down with her.
March 4, 2008 3:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've had a slightly uneasy feeling about Senator Clinton with respect to her identifying with and "feeling the pain" of out-of-work laborers. Maybe it's because she started out a Republican--indeed, she was President of the Wellesley Young Republicans while in college. You know the old Francois Guisot (1787-1874) quote: "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."
The longer this campaign goes on, the more I feel that Senator Clinton has no heart. Particularly when she employs Rove's tactic of perpetuating half-truths and innuendos about Obama. Then when the accusations are disproved, it doesn't matter--the person's reputation has been irreversibly tarnished. Mission accomplished.
P.S. I did vote for Senator Clinton in a Super Tuesday primary, but I now regret it.
March 4, 2008 3:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary Clinton has never really been tested in an election. She amassed huge warchests to fend off the likes of Rick Lazio in 2000 and John Spencer (who?) in 2006. Her wins were all the product of huge fundraising efforts that scared off better known Repubs like Pataki, Weld and Guiliani imploded.
She tried to bigfoot it again and it's not happening this time. And because it's not happening the real Hillary is coming out and I gotta say it's not pretty. When push comes to shove she plays the game just like a slimy Republican.
March 4, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Today should be interesting but the media-hyped momentum that HRC and co have spun seems to be tip ping the scales. Then we'll be reading tomorrow morning about the big "win" where a candidate who was up by double-digits a couple weeks ago (her) barely scrapes by. I guess that's because she's such a fighter...
Let's just keep her fighting spirit in perspective for a bit: it got her to fail miserably with her health care initiatives when she was First Lady. Then her fighting spirit got her to win two cakewalk senatorial elections here in NY - the first against a last minute replacement for Rudy Giuliani (who would have given her a real fight for the Junior Senator seat) and then a re-election in 2006 against another virtual nobody: the Mayor of Yonkers. So what major victories can she really claim to so far? Carpetbagging and riding Bill's coattails seem to be the spunk that stakes her political victories.
That "fighting spirit" she peddles is synonymous with her divisiveness, which, for me, is the key factor when having to choose between two candidates who by and large are identical in a policy debate. If there were any question whether or not HRC is a divisive character, let's just see what this scorched earth strategy does to the party she thinks will rally around her after she's ripped it to pieces bashing and attacking a good candidate and his supporters.
March 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary went on a "Listening Tour" to hear our concerns. She has now "Found Her Voice" to express solutions. When asked about Social Security at one of the debates, her response (paraphrased) was: "I will appoint a committee to look into it". A useless non-answer and an unformulated solution.
March 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow -- got some responses there! Okay, just briefly; I do not object that Obama has the most liberal voting record in the Senate for any other reason than that I think that fact will hurt him against McCain. But, again, I don't anticipate that his rhetoric about being the candidate who will heal the partisan rift is something that we're likely to see become reality. He has proven thin-skinned, even more so after we witnessed his press conference today. He's asked eight tough questions, and he walks out of his press conference, probably the first adversity he's faced from the press. I doubt his readiness for the Presidency, and what can we expect when the adversity comes from the Republican smear machine? Since he's a messiah figure, will he turn the other cheek? Just asking...
March 4, 2008 7:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just like the emperor's new clothes, if the emperor is really naked, then we say that the emperor is naked. If Hillary is acting like a Republican with her super negative ad campaign, doctored photos of Obama, and flat out lies, all which lack integrity, then she is a Republican except in name. And come November she will be treated like a Republican.
March 4, 2008 7:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary was a Goldwater Girl, and now she has Endorsed John McCain over Senator Obama. Hillary loves Republican Senators from Arizona.
From the desk of:
Mark Poison Penn.
Breaking News. Stop the presses.
Our new campaign talking point will be:
It Takes A Clinton To Raze A Village, in Order To Capture It.
March 4, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't breathe...despair setting in...where's the red phone?...
That ad will help the Republicans in November, but who cares? WE ALL IN, as they say.
Some words from Chris Hedges, posted Sept. 17, 2007:
"The appreciative oligarchs and corporate class have made Bill rich. He is fond of boasting in public about how wealthy he has become. Hillary raised $26 million in the first quarter of the year, almost three times as much as any politician previously raised at that point in a presidential election.
We face the prospect of having two families govern the country for 24 years. The system is rigged. Our democracy is a consumer fraud. The government has given up any pretense of serving the interests of citizens. The corporations rule. And for all Clinton’s charm and talent for self-promotion, he is largely to blame.
Half a century ago, corporations paid 45 percent to 50 percent of the income tax. Today they pay 6 or 7 percent. This is why our infrastructure is crumbling, there is no universal health care, our public education is in crisis, regulatory agencies are impotent and our poor and working class are desperate."
24 years. I really thought all that Bilder-burger Illuminati or whatever stuff was crap. Get ready for Jeb in 2012. Chelsea's coming along just fine for 2020.
Hillary voted for the war, and continued to support it long after the jury was no longer "out." HOW DOES THAT NOT MATTER? This blatant travesty of immense proportions. One million dead.
The sun set on America in November 2000. And just like I said that fateful day,
I'll be in the bar.
March 4, 2008 11:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hiya,
Some good posts here. I wanted to address the issue of Obama holding fire against Hillary. What about the refusal of Hillary to release her tax returns? They must be pretty damaging, since releasing tax returns is pretty standard for presidential candidates. And, it's not like she didn't expect to face the moment. So despite all the laundering and obfuscation possible, she still is holding on.
And what about her First Lady records, including the calendars? What will the calendars show?
Obama left these up to the media, which has basically given Hillary a pass. If it was me, I'd show up at every debate with a copy of my tax returns, point out they've been made public for "X" months, and ask Hillary for a reason hers are hidden and a date certain they'll be disclosed.
So, yes, Obama is doing quite a bit for the unity of the party, and getting kicked around by Hillary ("as far as I know") Rodham Clinton.
March 5, 2008 12:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
My God, you Obama supporters disgust me. Clinton has not endorsed McCAin, that's a lie. Clinton is not a Republican, that's a lie. Clinton's policies are actually more progressive on Obama's on most issues, but facts don't matter, do they. Yes, National Journal made Obama most liberal, but they do that to the Democratic Candidate everytime because they are a corrupt rightwing outfit who rigs the questions or do you really believe John Kerry was more liberal than Ted Kennedy and Bernie Sanders? Really?
Get a grip, your candidate is not a saint and his opponent is not Satan.
March 5, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
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