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Ferraro and Olbermann and Wright. And Hill and Bill. (Oh my.)

 I'm recycling some related comments I made on other reader blogs with some additional content, because I realized they were related, had a guilty sense of having thread-jacked a little with each of them, and, finally, that what I said about Wright in one comment compelled me, in all honesty, to cut Gerry Ferraro a tiny slice of slack.

Let's start with Rev. Wright.

The the same logic that says Obama must reject and denounce Rev. Wright requires millions of people in the South, and indeed, throughout the nation, both black and white, to reject and renounce their grandparents and never enter their homes again. At least, that's apparently what they have to do to hold public office.

Obama should have tried to change Wright? A thirty or forty odd year old congregating trying to change the views of a man that age? How utterly presumptuous and futile that would have been. Obama should have found another church where there was no chance that, on occasion, the pastor would let loose with some cringe-inducing rant of anachronistic brimstone? How utterly pointless, and yes, I dare say wrong, that would have been.

In a brutally funny routine (aren't they all?) Chris Rock observed that the most prejudiced people in the world were old black men, the reason being that they grew up when "having the white man on your back" meant having a the white man on your back. Forget not getting a taxi, they were the taxi -- and here he pantomimed a man jumping onto another's back cracking the whip and shouting "heeyah, giddyup boy!" Younger black men recognize this, make allowances for it and take the bad with the good. Just like we white people do with our own elders.

Both of my grandfathers, long dead, were about as racist as they could be. They were also both possessed of much wisdom. Even as a small child, I knew one from the other and made allowances for the times they grew up in. My father was as broadminded as a man of his age and class in the South could be expected to be, but the attitudes that made him something of a racial progressive in the 60s made him more than a bit bigoted by the time he died. It wasn't his attitudes that changed, it was the times. I didn't try to change him, and I didn't reject and renounce him. I loved him, honored him for having been as progressive as he was when it counted, despite his age and upbringing, learned what he had to teach me, and made allowances for what could not be changed.

This is exactly what Obama was alluding to when this Wright clip was raised before, and what I hope he (tactfully) sends out the same message again: our old people grew up in a harsher, uglier time and much of that ugliness is permanently etched into their souls. Many have achieved far more change within themselves than we could ever have believed possible had we lived in their times. We take the good that they all have to offer and let the bad pass by knowing with certainty that it will die with them, soon enough.

If there was any basis for believing that this sermon was typical rather than exceptional (other the fact that a bunch of outragemongering Fox News thugs say so), it would be different, just as there's a difference between an old Methodist pastor who occasionally says something cringe-inducing about homosexuality and Fred Phelps screaming "God hates fags!" every Sunday. One is a fallible human being being a human being, the other is a psychotic being monstrous.

And, in this respect, I have wronged Gerry Ferraro. She is old, she grew up in the same 'hood as Archie Bunker. I should have made allowances for that.

But I did not wrong her by much. She's a public figure—one who is duly impressed with her own place in history—talking to the media, first local, then national, not some preacher talking to his flock whose taped sermon was leaked to the enemy at Fox. Second, and I'll take this up in detail at the end, it is impossible for me to believe that this was not deliberate messaging by the Clinton campaign. It would not be the first time they sent out Gerry to speak that which the candidate dare not speak herself. They sent her out to pitch the “those mean men were ganging up on her at the debate” line to the single middle aged white women of New Hampshire when Hillary herself was saying the opposite and now, at this odd juncture where the demographics of Mississippi and Pennsylvania make it fortuitous, Gerry suddenly pops up to tell us that Obama would not be where he was today if he weren't black.

At one level, Ezra Klein is quite right about Ferraro's comments. The statement means little because it is nonsensical. If Obama wasn't black, he'd be somebody else with a whole other portfolio of experiences and accomplishments.

At another level, however, it is a far fouler, appeal to the prejudices of, say people in a state where the demographics trend white, blue collar and older than just about anywhere else in the nation, than anyone seems to have appreciated, one narrowly targeted to get them to apply their prejudices specifically to Obama.

Barack Obama is a staggeringly accomplished man. Merely to describe his accomplishments makes one sound like a drooling star-struck Kool Aid drinker with a Chris Matthews style man crush. Obama got his B.A. from Columbia, majoring in political science with an emphasis in international relations. He was a community organizer in his twenties who, among other things, was behind a remarkably successful voter registration drive in Chicago. He received his J.D. From Harvard Law, Magna Cum Laude. He was research assistant to Lawrence Tribe, who called him "the most all-around impressive student I had seen in decades." While working for Tribe “Obama analyzed and integrated Einstein's theory of relativity, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to gravity, for a Law Review article that Tribe wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space.'” In his third year, Obama was elected president of the Harvard Law Review. After law school, he eschewed the incredibly lucrative job offers that await presidents of the HLR, and, instead, went to work with a respected, but small and not very remunerative, civil rights firm in Chicago. He also taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago and, it is said, could have had been full professor any time he wanted, had he not chosen to also pursue a political career. He had a meteoric rise from state senator to U.S. Senator to Presidential candidate. He is the author, the actual author, not some pol claiming credit for the work of a ghost author, of of two best selling books. Both of his books are extremely well written, the first a remarkably insightful memoir, the latter a cogent synthesis of recent events and our political and economic history that lucidly explains where we are, how we got here and what we can do about it. Chock full of policy precriptions, wonky yet readable and remarkably self-reflective.

As a senator, he has sponsored some very serious signature pieces of legislation and gotten them passed while he was a member of the minority. And, oh yes, the guy happens to be the most outstanding political orator of his generation, and may be one of the four or five best in the history of the party. He has created and run a tight, well-run and remarkable harmonious campaign organization that has upended the carefully laid plans of the Mighty and Inevitable Hillary Clinton Machine and run up huge margins against her in, what, fifteen out of the last seventeen states now?

Was he fast tracked by the powers that be in the Illinois legislature and by the Democratic Senate leadership? You bet he was. That's what organizations do with prodigies. Businesses do it, universities do it, the military does it and, yes, they do it in politics.

And yet when you look at the comments of Hillary's supporters on this blog, over and over again, you see him dismissed as “an empty suit.” It is a central meme in Hillary's campaign now. Empty suit. Pretty speeches and no content. Just a vacuous, content-free pretty boy.

Do you really think anyone would buy that drivel if he were white? That's the subtext Gerry was pushing. “Accomplishments? C'mon, he's a moulie. Columbia? Affirmative action. Harvard? Quota baby. President of the Harvard Law Review? Just a bunch of northeastern liberals exorcising their white guilt. University of Chicago? Reverse racism. Illinois legislature? Blacks takin' care of their own. Senate? Affirmative action. You know how it is today. Those blacks get everything, and us whites get the short end, know what I'm sayin'?”

Which is why, in the end, Gerry gets no slack from me after all. She wasn't just some random old lady ranting the way old people do when the topic turns to race. She was on a mission. Which, in turn, is why Hillary deserved every last second of the caustic soda sandblasting Olbermann unleashed on her last night.

I've lived in the South, or the border South, my whole life and I'm old enough to remember the bad old days when white supremacy was mainstream political thought. I've lived through the days when racial politics transitioned from fire hoses and bullets and George Wallace screaming "Segregation Now, Segregation Forever" to Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy," Ronald Reagan's speechifying about "states rights" in Philedelphia, Mississippi and Jesse Helms "white hands" ad. (God, I'll never forget how utterly appalled I was by that ad and that whole campaign. In the waning days of the Bush I Administration, I thought the country was past that sort of thing. Now that was naïve.)

I'm a white guy, but I know the politics of racial dog whistling when I see it.

The racial dog whistle isn't directed to the people who have swastika tattoos and Klan robes in their closet. It is directed to the angry blue collar white guy who starts all his pronouncements with "I'm no racist, but . . ." and then goes on and on and on about "them" and how "they" act. People who know they're getting a raw deal and need a scapegoat. People who genuinely think it would be profoundly foul and offensive to call a black person "nigger" to his or her face but see nothing wrong with using the word in private conversations with other white people.

I've seen that tune oh-so-skillfully played in a wistful minor key by Jesse Helms and the other Republicans in North Carolina for more than two decades. Mostly, its all about a wink and a nod, a codeword here and a subtle image there and all to convey a simple message: "those blacks are privileged and getting special treatment and stealing your tax money and it just ain't fair.: And you quickly learn that when its time to get blunt and say something really foul, they always out a black man to say it for them.

The inevitable protestation of complete innocence is the most sickening part of the act. In every case, when someone calls bullshit, the candidate pulls his halo and his best wounded expression out of his desk and sorrowfully bemoans the way his opponent makes everything about race (but, you know, that's how those people are, idn't it? Everything always a racial thing with them).

Since Helms retired, those tactics have faded just a bit in North Carolina, but they're still alive and well when you get into Tennessee and Mississippi and Alabama. And while the lyrics to the song are a little different in Ohio and Pennsylvania and Indiana, the tune is the same.

We know how this game is played down here and so do Bill and Hillary Clinton. Bill and Hillary lived in Little Rock frakkin Arkansas throughout the 70s and 80s. Bill was growing up in Arkansas when the 101st Airborne stood between crowds of screaming white adults and five kids who had to have U.S. marshals escort them to every class. Bill and Hill are two of the finest political minds of their generation and avid specators of the game of politics.  They know all there is to know about that game because they've seen it played by experts for decades.

And that's the point. Knowing how that game is played, Hillary and Bill know exactly what you must avoid saying and doing if you don't want people, black and white, to think you are playing it too. If you know what not to say and what not to do to avoid that perception and then go ahead do it anyway, not once, not twice, but over and over again, it is impossible to avoid the inference that you know what you're doing and you are doing it deliberately. Sure, its an inference, but juries are allowed and encouraged to send people to jail, and even to die, on the basis of inferences of similarly quality and strength.

No one is accusing Hillary or Bill of being racists. No one thinks they are white supremacists or harbor any racial prejudice whatsoever.

No, what they are doing is much worse. They stand accused of coldly mobilizing the racial prejudices of white voters, prejudices which they do not share, as a means of getting votes from people whose views they hold in contempt.

No doubt they rationalize it by telling themselves about all the good things they'll do for black people after she wins.

And, worse, still, many of Hillary's supporters are blithely enabling the effort, either because they are blinded by the Kool Aid and applying the Reverse Clinton Rules ("no matter how blatant the activity, anyone who accuses Bill and Hillary of being ruthless and calculating is repeating Republican Talking Points") or because they are themselves the kind of people who are being targeted.

That's what Olbermann was was so upset about. This was her chance to say, “NO! We will not do this, even if it costs me the nomination” and she did not do it.

Keith was shocked, and appalled, furious and saddened.

I was merely furious, appalled and saddened.


Comments (86)

Wow. That was a great read. Well put.

Nice Job, Steve. Didn't realize at first it was a compendium of earlier comments, but you hit the nail on the head, repeatedly, until it was countersunk.

That's how you do it, folks.

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Amen.

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Much of what you said I agree with. But I do not agree with your equating Wright with someone's family member. In another thread someone tried to do that by suggesting that asking for a denouncement of Wright would be like asking Hillary to denounce Chelsea.

Wright is like Farraro. A public figure. Not as large or as famous as Ferraro but public none the less. He is a major figure in Obama's life as stated by him many times. Carter was unfairly attacked by the antics of his brother Billy. But the views of his pastor would have been fair game especially if one sites him as a pivotal figure in their life.

If Clinton had, like Obama did with Wright, suggested that she was embarassed by Ferraro and that she was geting old and near retierment so her views would pass from the world soon, and if Ferraro's coments were not part of an overall patern of behavior by Sen Clinton's campeign of using race and knowingly decieving voters she would not have been tarred with these remarks made by her friend.

So, you don't think Chelsea played a "pivotal role" in Clinton's life? Wright is only a public figure because of Obama, and now he's retired. He does not and did not ever work for the campaign. His remarks were made to his own congregation, and if he made them with the intent to get them publicity, then why did it take 2 months for the tape to show up on CNN? His role in all of this is a lot like an old uncle or grandparent, and should be taken with a grain of salt just like this post advocates.

Ferraro is a politician. She's an adviser to Clinton and was on the finance committee. She made her crazy comments while speaking to the press. BIG difference.

The issue of whether or not Wright intended his remarks to reach a wider audience is entirely irrelevant. Indeed, I'd find it more disturbing if he were to assume he could spew venom to his congregation while making nice in the mainstream media.

Respectfully, that's ridiculous. Wright is a pastor of a large community church, the alternative religious institution to Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam congregation in the South Side of Chicago, from what has been written. He is not a democratic party figure, a superdelgate, a former VP candidate, or anybody even remotely associated with politics. That is a very VERY different type of "public figure" than Gerry Ferraro.

His remarks are over the top, but much less so than 1,000 thingis Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and other mainstream Baptist evangelicals have said over the years, including about the Clintons. And THE critical difference is that Pastor Wright was not saying something Obama wants to say, but can't say himeslf (like Ferraro), nor was he solicited and is suddenly embracing (even though he disagrees with him) in order to get support from his supportters (like McCain and Hagee) -- after all, black voters are now going for Obama at an 9-1 (or better) ratio. No, it's actually exactly what Obama describes, and it is radically different than Ferrara (who is a Clionton surrogate and clearly seems to be saying what the campiagn would like to say on its own, but can't. But I would not expect Clinton supporters, McCain supporters and the MSM to appreaciate such nuances -- its so much easier to attack and slime your way to an undemocratic victory.

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Wow is right. That is the most impressive prose I have read in a long time. It encompasses all of the relevant issues eloquently. Thank you for putting my feelings into words.

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Thank you for this insightful post, Steve.

When Ferraro indignantly defended herself against accusations of racism by saying that she had fought for racial equality all her life, it occurred to me that the two impulses are not necessarily mutually exclusive. It is possible to champion the equal treatment of all human beings while at the same time harboring latent feelings of superiority. I have struggled with accepting this interpretation, but I haven't come up with a more plausible explanation for her rather bizarre and reflexive behavior. And I'm beginning to wonder if the same dynamic could be a factor in the almost militant sense of entitlement we have seen from some quarters of the second wave feminist community.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

It is possible to champion the equal treatment of all human beings while at the same time harboring latent feelings of superiority.

Bingo. That's the history of white involvement in the civil rights movement from the beginning of the abolition movement up to and through -- hell, I don't know when or if it ended.

The entire immigration "debate" has forced me to confront the fact that you can never truly root out the latent belief in white superiority that our culture imbues in us. You can only be aware of it, confront it each time it rears its ugly head and try to move past it. This is the ultimate test of citizenship for a white American, today, IMHO. Thankfully, I'm sensing that the next generation may finally be turning the corner.

Fantastic post.

Thanks. And I've been meaning to say, I love your avatar. Issue 5, right?

Excellent writing! (You must be a professional writer or a scholar). I have to say that I hesitated at plunging in because of the wordiness, but I'm glad that I read it. You made so many great points that I won't analyze too much but encourage others to take a look. Powerful, well thought out and organized.

To make it short, I wholeheartedly agree. Wonderful post.

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This is the best summation of this topic I've read anywhere.

What a load of shit, Steve.

Wright is not Obama's father...or uncle. He is a public figure of significant influence in Obama's life. Wrights comments appeal to a particular segment of the population as well.

Your twisted attempts to justify Wright...or Obama... is simply ridiculous.

Nope to loki and dembillc:

Rev. Wright does not work for Obama, does not make those remarks on national TV, and does not direct them at the other candidate. What is the equivalence?

Add to that the fact that older black guys have damn good reasons to damn the US. Racism is conveniently used to mean any race loyalty or distrust of another race, but it has a couple hundred years of one-way use. For the foreseeable future it is wholly laughable for whites to call blacks racist.

Dude, there is absolutely nothing Obama, or anyone else, can say or do on this topic that will satisfy Hillary's supporters, nor is there anything he can say or do that will satisfy the people who were looking for a reason to be against him that's less stark than "he's black."

That's really not true. I'd be satisfied if both sides would stop trying to collect surrogate pelts.

Destor,

I sense some real honesty in your comments, but I am not sure you appreciate this particular argument. I agree that the hunt for surrogates is a waste of time. I would also tender that Obama is not really "hunting that dog" either. The people around him may go there, but I think Obama tries to stay out.

I know you do not see the Ferraro-gate as much and are offended by Wright, but I think that is the line trying to be drawn here. The group of oppressed people that Wright was talking to and about have every right to be enraged as to their (ongoing) oppression. I have a regular argument with a Republican friend and I will draw my knives when the dominant "hetro-superiority line" gets pulled. Here we are arguing about the rights of women and black people when the homosexuals are still denied rights. Hell - we have an entire party focused on denying those rights as a constitutional matter.

Up in arms we should be. This goes for all humans and the rights of all humans. The battle for equality is not done, and we need to keep our eye on the prize.

That's really not true. I'd be satisfied if both sides would stop trying to collect surrogate pelts.

That's one sentiment I can definitely agree with. At this point it's just getting ridiculous.

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Wonderful post, you are so elegant in your words and speak such truth with so much sincerity. Thank you for putting my thoughts in writing, as well.

It is a let down, to say the least, the I had to read replies like that of loki redux after your thoughtful analogy.

In response to it, let me say:
Obama grew up without a father and a preacher and/or close friend could easily become a surrogate for him growing up.

Also, in response to the harsh words his pastor said that you feel that Obama supports or hasn't sufficiently separated himself from... I have to say:
That it might be understandable when put into the context of the complexity of his family and his upbring... the fact that he was brought up by the white side of his family would have no doubt caused him to have a kind of "lack of identity." Questions like "Who am I?" and "Where so I fit in?" must have overwhelmed him as a young man. During your youth, when you're forming your identity it's hard to not be accepted by any group..to be an outsider. Not white, but not black enough. I'm sure his relationship to this preacher and congregation gave him an insight into his other side that he desperately needed to understand and yes, his preacher could have been a father or an uncle figure. I'm convinced it was something that he needed at the time, so that he could give himself a complete identity. The fact that he has this background and is able to bring a message of unity to us now is what we should celebrate.

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Racism is not excused because of age!
Excusing Racism makes you a Racist.
In the next debate Obama has to be asked about his relationship with the Racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright. This guy married him baptised his children is his spiritual advisor and close friend
and his clearly one of the biggest racist's in America. He says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America." In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.
This guy is as Racist as they come.

He was saying God damn America after talking about injustices in America, if you watch more then just the fox news clip. Things like the three strikes and your out, which is highly fucked up. AND YES America's foreign policy is what led to 9/11. That is just Historic fact. If America didn't set up AQ in Afghanistan during the war with Russia then AQ wouldn't of had control there, if America didn't put bases in the Middle East and didn't do the gulf war then Bin Laden wouldn't have set his sights on America. To say America isn't at all responsible for 9/11 is ridiculous it is a cause in effect situation, not that it was right but its just historic fact. He is being attacked for what his pastor said going back all the way to 2001, these videos aren't new they have been in storage and are being used at this time for a reason. Wright is RETIRED as well he has been for over a month. He is also not a racist the church Obama goes to even has a white reverend but w/e this is all just BS being brought up AGAIN by people who dont want Obama to win. O here is their website http://www.tucc.org/about.htm hey look a white minister is on the front page, jezz they sure hate white people dont they.

It must be wonderful having the strength of character to reject, denounce and forever separate yourself from every friend, relative, coworker, boss or random stranger who ever made a remark that displayed ethnic animus or told a racist joke. Or, perhaps you are fortunate enough to live in some isolated utopian corner where the tangled and ugly racial history of our country has left no mark. I admire your strength of will and envy you the evident perfection of your social and family network.

However, as a profoundly imperfect adult living in an imperfect society, I have, alas, often been so weak as to make moral compromises from time to time out of a desire to obtain harmony in my social, economic and family relationships, I feel disinclined to cast stones at others for doing likewise. To be an adult is to be morally compromised, and such sins of omission are the currency paid.

I do, however, feel free to cast stones at politicians who cynically exploit racial animus that they themselves do not share for political gain. Its a sin of omission that is destructive to the health of the Republic and a civic duty I feel free to perform, hiding here, as I am, behind the safety of my psuedonym.

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I suppose it's only Jerry Fallwell that was allowed this kind of statement. How about McCain latest endorser/buddy saying Katrina happen because of an upcoming Gay parade. These people get a free pass from the media, but I'm sure this thing with Obama's preacher will just be all over the news over and over again. People like these Pat Robinson types are allowed to get away with this kind of divisive rheteric and go on to represent and endorse candidates all the time. We are killing ourselves in the general election if we continue to make to big a deal of of it.

Thank you for this post. You have hit the nail on the head.

Off their website http://www.tucc.org/mission.htm

"Mission Statement: What Trinity Is About
Trinity United Church of Christ has been called by God to be a congregation that is not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ and that does not apologize for its African roots! As a congregation of baptized believers, we are called to be agents of liberation not only for the oppressed, but for all of God’s family. We, as a church family, acknowledge, that we will, building on this affirmation of "who we are" and "whose we are," call men, women, boys and girls to the liberating love of Jesus Christ, inviting them to become a part of the church universal, responding to Jesus’ command that we go into all the world and make disciples!

We are called out to be "a chosen people" that pays no attention to socio-economic or educational backgrounds. We are made up of the highly educated and the uneducated. Our congregation is a combination of the haves and the have-nots; the economically disadvantaged, the under-class, the unemployed and the employable.

The fortunate who are among us combine forces with the less fortunate to become agents of change for God who is not pleased with America’s economic mal-distribution!

W.E.B. DuBois indicated that the problem in the 20th century was going to be the problem of the color line. He was absolutely correct. Our job as servants of God is to address that problem and eradicate it in the name of Him who came for the whole world by calling all men, women, boys and girls to Christ."

O yeah they sound like Crazy radical racist church... or as Borat would say....... ...... ...... .... NOT!!!

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Agreed. And here's from the UCC website:

"The UCC was founded in 1957 as the union of several different Christian traditions: from the beginning of our history, we were a church that affirmed the ideal that Christians did not always have to agree to live together in communion."

DID NOT ALWAYS HAVE TO AGREE TO LIVE TOGETHER is the important part. Those of you not understanding this are from a religious tradition that only accepts that folks can be a community IF THEY ARE IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT.

Nice summation.

I only have one little, tiny yellow flag that pops up in my head in the middle of all of this. While I don't have any trouble at all thinking that this sort of sneak attack could come from the mind of Mark Penn and Howling Wolfson - and have said as much elsewhere-- fairness demands one comment.

Until there is direct evidence connecting Hillary to these latest incidents, we have to at least keep in mind that it might not have been her. Ferarro was her, but not every such thing has to be. There are machiavellian minds on the Right, as well, and they're perfectly capable of stirring slime in the shadows and would not be happier if we ended up blaming each other for stuff they throw out.

Let's not forget, the Reagan democrats are also the very demographic that the Ferrarro messages, and now the Wright messages, have the most appeal to. Who's been better at attracting their support for the past 20 years?

And it's also worth noting that it's just as much in the interests of the GOP to see Obama damaged now, as it is for Hillary. They don't have to coordinate this stuff, but they do have similar objectives.

I'm just sayin... The Wright thing may not be coming from Hillary. It probably is, but it may not be.

I think it's time for The Speech to get Barack back onto the stage and doing what he does better than either of the other two: address this whole racial issue and tie it to the past, and talk about the America of the future he wants to help us to create.

NCS: Excellent explanation. Anyone denying this exegesis is willfully dense or just being a jerk.

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Folks, we can talk about history and oppression against black people, how older people are hardened by these experiences and that it is reflected in their language (as in Wright's case), but the bottom line is that Obama can't legitimately talk about uniting and bringing everyone together by moving away from the old ways while he's been so closely connected to someone who doesn't reflect that. Religion is way too often a disuniting force in our country. Whether language that drives wedges is from White Evangelicals or Black preachers, it's wrong. As a strong Obama supporter, I say he has to address this in a much more forceful way, almost as Romney did in response to bigotry and misunderstandings surrounding his beliefs. He has an opportunity now both to dispatch with these ridiculous, insidious Muslim hate rumors and to put in their place Wright's more scurrilous and hurtful remarks - all while articulating what he believes, how it supports and underwrites his public policy views, and speaks to the proper role (or none) of religion and belief in politics and society. Not every voter has read his book[s], and now that he's viewed as a very likely nominee for president and very potentially the next president, he needs to really lead on this and take control (as much as he can) of the debate about him and what he's about.

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I agree in that the media is having a field about this and a speech by Obama would clarify all of this and may be the best this for him to do. It will definitly help put the issue to rest and it will also help his contests in the upcoming primaries and the general if that is where he is heading.

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"Only words". WOW. Can you condense this somewhat and send it to Pennsylvania newspapers.

I know a 95 year old who has a black nurse's aide assist her, yet when she refers to a black person she uses the word "colored". Is she being derogatory. No. That's the word that was used back then. Beliefs are informed by a person's experiences. And yes there are generational differences. And yes people can change, but again some people may be more open to change.

Another possible take on Mrs. Ferraro: As a student of psychology, I know that when someone expresses such emotional intensity about something, the outer experience is triggering something internally from their past(unprocessed hurt and anger - possibly from her own experiences when running as VP)

And perhaps that's why she wasn't able after her original comments to say something like: "My comments weren't intended to be racist. If they were interpreted like that by anyone, I apologize." And then gone away quietly. Instead, she got really defensive (another sign of some internal button being pushed) and dug herself in deeper, making it inflammatory.

That's one of the things that draws he to Obama. He brings light instead of heat.

Obama is associated for 20 years with a racist Reverend and I will love seeing and hearing the Reverend Wright's tape over and over again. It's not going away. It's clearly racist and it will endure Obama, the empty suit, will never be POTUS.

Praise the Lord and his racist hand, the Reverend Wright.

Many of us hope for a future when Wright's attitudes are history, but they are not racist, but based on experience. Whereas American racism has a particular meaning, and it is not the generic one of being blindly loyal to one's race or blindly antagonistic to others. It is being specifically antagonistic to and dismissive of African-Americans, in conflct with facts.

When white Americans would say blacks were incapable of X it was patently untrue, or as a result of imposed handicaps. But when Rev. Wright details the iniquities experienced by American balcks it is historical fact. He has reasons to be less than reflexively loyal to the country.

Forget your false symmetry---there is no reverse racism here. Bitterness, yes.

Since I have to explain this I assume you won't get it.

Marginal,

I remember on a previous post you mentioned you are a loyal Bill O'Reilly fan. I can see where you are going to watch all the carnage against Obama unfold.

And I can certainly see where you get your view of the world.

How is it racist?

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the silence from obama on the wright issue is deafening..........what judgement ????? tony rezko.....what judgement ??????? william ayers.....what judgement ???????i said from the beginning this guy is a is a con artist.....jst maybe people will wake up in time .....he will never win the GE.....i can see the swiftboaters and 527's from the GOP now .......dem party is in trouble if he is the candidate,,,,,,,sorry but thats reality.......im a dem but i think the party is too far left and it may sink us in the long run

I'll admit it. I am compeletely biased against bloggers who use extra periods, question marks and a complete lack of correct capital letters.

I second that.
Consider me a punctuation bigot.

Well, it's out there.

The voters will decide how important or not it is.

But, frankly, the people here calling Rev. Wright a racist, sound more racist than he does.

And I think anyone who doesn't worship FOX news recognizes that fact.

Appreciate the post. Allows much more sympathy for the real injustices suffered by African Americans than that favored-son FlyOnTheWall post from yesterday.

Two things:

1) Wholely apart from the merits or lacktherof to the viewpoints of either, I believe there is very rightfully a double standard between what Ferraro says and what Wright says. The historically oppressed and the oppressing races comments/viewpoints can not be equated word for word, merit for merit, in some vacuum apart from the social realities around us. When we finally have true racial equality, economically, politically, and otherwise, then we can judge the comments of Wright and Ferraro on equal terms. Otherwise, you have the comments of someone from a privileged race, not to mention that white women have been the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action, and you have the comments from someone sticking up for some of the most marginalized people in the history of this country.

2) There are a lot of young folks still angry about the continuing racial inequalities in this country too. As one example, remember how everyone was so upset about the poor folks in N.O. after Katrina? Well, while "white" majority concern has largely passed, those folks still exist, in N.O., in Chicago, in Oakland, CA, and all across this country. And, while you don't hear about it in the mainstream corporate media, many people are still pissed.

400 years of slavery, God Bless America!
Lynchings to this day, God Bless America!
It's only because he's black, God Bless America!
MLK Jr assassinated, God Bless America!
RFK assassinated, God Bless America!
One in ten black men in prison, God Bless America!
High unemployment among blacks, God Bless America!
Black on black violence, God Bless America!
Guns and drugs and prostitution in the projects, God Bless America!
A bunch of rich white folks doing everything they can to smear Barack Obama, God Bless America!

You critics are right, it does sound better that way! Someone send a memo to the pastor! He's got it all wrong!

I think I can add one to your list, more recent.

Victims of a major hurricane, fleeing to safety over a bridge and blocked at gunpoint by law enforcement.

News Footage from that time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSsgwajStCo&feature=related

And the sheriff who ordered it who just happened to be a loyal fundraiser and family friend of a certain presidential candidate. GOD BLESS AMERICA

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/us/politics/20commence.html?_r=2&scp=2&sq=Milestones%3A+Hillary+Clinton&st=nyt&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Amen, brother.

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I disagree with people who say that Obama should have just dumped Wright because he was not a relative. He was just his pastor. Have they ever been involved in a church? Your church is not just a place you go to on Sundays, spend an hour there and go home. Your pastor becomes part of your family, fellow congregants become part of your family. In essence, it is your community, your extended family, and you don't always agree with your extended family. I certainly don't always agree with my pastor, but I know he is a good man, and when I disagree with him, I do it in private, not disrespect him in public. Obama, in his position, needs to come out publicly, though, and say what he believes, just so there is no question. Let Obama put this controversy to rest.

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I agree, this was a good read. This is the 2nd article on here, that I think is so well articulated. Keep up the good works folks.

Thanks! Thanks so much for the common sense. All the spin about Wright is insane. This is a pastor talking to his congregation, not a politician talking to the media (Ferraro).

When I read much of the insane accusations that people have raised about this I conclude that

a) most of them do not attend religious services, do not practice a faith on a regular basis, and do not understand the relation between a person of faith and his/her mentor. This is a very profound connection that it is in spite of political ideologies or social ideals. That "in spite" can and does often make it stronger. You do not need to think the same and yet you can share and pursuit a spiritual path in spite differences that in other contexts would be somewhat poisonous.

b)many seem to think that because slavery is behind us and we are much better a people than before that has to automatically equate black and white experiences and feelings about it. I think that this approach is partially blind. Black folks of Mr. Wright age were called the N word and ignored by cabbies and much more way too many times. That does not excuse hate but makes anger understandable. Seems a bit arrogant all this outrage as if they could magically forget and heal all their life experience.

My late grandma and grandaunts had pretty horrible thoughts about every non-Jewish person born in Germany. Their parents had been killed by nazis. I did not agree and I found some manifestations of their Jewishness a bit extreme, but I got it. Why is it so hard to get it when it comes to old black people? Do you guys really think that they had it easy?

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Nice attempt to get Obama off the hook. But it doesn't work. Anybody running for president these days has advisor(s) who are going to say the wrong thing. The candidate is forced to make a judgment each time -- how serious was the mistake and how should it be corrected? I am sure Ms. Ferraro didn't think she would kick up such a fuss with her comments. But when she saw that she was damaging the campaign, she stepped away. She may have felt she was right but the campaign meant more to her.

Rev. Wright is a smart cookie. He knows the media wants to give Obama as much of a pass as possible. He knows he can be pushed to the side as a wild-eyed maniac given to extreme statements and it not only won't hurt his candidate -- it might strengthen him a bit. To that end, I found Olbermann's (and Steve's) outrage a bit contrived.

It is naive to think there are blacks who are voting for Obama for no other reason than his race. The same is true for Clinton and her gender. It is only logical their supporters will, at some point, slip and play the reverse card.

Your thoughts reveal ample wisdom. The only problem is that we are in a midst of a campaign to select the nominee to represent the Democratic party in November, and the average voter is not going to see this issue about Pastor Wright with the same nuance, historical perspective, and tolerance as you do.

So sad to say, Obama needs to respond not on the basis of your wisdom but on the basis of how voters will perceive this issue. That is the reality of politics in general, which is made all the more acute in a presidential election.

Is this demagoguery? Tragic to say, to some extent it is, but as one reader above put it, how can Obama position himself as a uniter when his own pastor invokes divisive language? (Forget that the video is 5 years old. People are not going to care about that. They care about what the guy said.)

No one is saying Obama should disown a man whom he regards as an old uncle. But he needs to sever whatever official bonds he has with the pastor in order to more ahead. And he needs strong language doing it. How Obama does this will go far in telling us what kind of president Obama will be.

I say this as an Obama supporter who is saddened by this controversy. My sadness is partly assuaged by the profile of Obama's mother in today's NY Times. Among the things that are revealed, Obama has said that his mother represents the best that is in him. The Wright issue gives Obama a chance to show that side. What that will be only Obama knows right now, but he does not have much time.

Great post.. great post. Don't pay those ridiculous commenters no mind - I support you.

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Rev. Wright is his "spiritual" adviser, not an uncle who only spews his views to family and friends. He lead a congregation for TWENTY years. TWENTY. In which this was not the only time he's said things of this nature. He's called America the "U.S.KKK of A" amongst other things. This was NOT an isolated incident. He IS retired from the church but NOT from Obama's campaign.
You don't choose family, you're born into it. Senator Obama CHOSE to listen to this man for twenty years. You don't go to a church, or anywhere else, where you disagree with someone so strongly about issues that are that extreme without believing them to a certain extent, at the very least.
It's insane and shortsighted to think otherwise.
Should this derail Senator Obama's candidacy? No. But it needs to be addressed and investigated.

One Comment:
Where is the KKK based out of?

Make that two:
What country lynched black people within the last 100 years?

James Taylor said, the mob started at 2:30. At 4:15 they hanged two African Americans who were coming from work, to a telegraph pole and shot them to pieces.

An Associated Press dispatch of July 10,1917, from East St. Louis had the following: "A man arrested by Capt. O.C. Smith, F Company, police, ostensibly "on order of the state's attorney." Captain Smith asserted that he heard the man say," I've killed my share of Negroes today. I have killed so many I am tired and somebody else can finish them."

When Capt. Smith went to the police station yesterday to prefer a formal charge he found that the prisoner had been released." This was just a small part of the horror of the racial massacre which occurred on July 2,1917 in East St. Louis, Illinois. It's estimated that from 40 to 150 African Americans were killed and that 6,000 African Americans were driven from their homes, that were indiscriminately burned. All the impartial witnesses agree that the police were indifferent or encouraged the barbarities, and that the major part of the Illinois National Guard was indifferent or inactive. No organized effort was made to protect the African Americans or disperse the murdering groups

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_St._Louis_Riot

I agree that it would be much better to disassociate Wright from the Obama campaign, for the reasons you cite. His statements are so terribly inflammatory and troubling, they're difficult to accept, no matter what context we use to process and understand them.

However, I disagree with your assumption here:

You don't go to a church, or anywhere else, where you disagree with someone so strongly about issues that are that extreme without believing them to a certain extent, at the very least. It's insane and shortsighted to think otherwise.

Having spent the first 23 years of my life in Louisiana and the remaining 23 in Texas, I know from my own experience that I'm capable of having much love and esteem for elder role models in my life who embrace varying degrees of racial prejudice. It always hurts and disappoints me to hear them express those prejudices (and yes, sometimes it is starkly hateful), but I've had to accept that their own experiences have shaped their opinions. And I'm grateful that I'm free of much (though sadly, not all) the social conditioning and racist beliefs they have absorbed.

In general, I think racist fear and distrust fades with each new generation. It's sad to see those feelings of fear and distrust stoked in order to give racial divisions more power and relevance than they deserve.

Good post...

Of his accomplishments, you missed a recent one:
Grammy winner, for the audiobook of "Audacity".

i know i just commented, but i have to respond to silverhood, zumper and that goofy ice cream head...

please stop crying about "black racism" and "racism cuts both ways".

it's a bs straw man argument.

white racism against blacks in america is a historical, documented reality. with documented effects on people of african descent. from slavery to jim crow to the war on drugs. police brutality and unequal justice. economic apartheid. offensive, stereotypical images, comments and depictions, right up to the present day. Life expectancy figures. infant mortality figures.

what historic wrongs have white people suffered at the hands of "black racists" in this country?
were they lynched? segregated? enslaved? disenfranchised? nope, nope, nope.

so waddya you got? hurtful words? affirmative action? white women have been the biggest beneficiaries of AA.

one minute i see you all crying "political correctness, wahhhh!", then the next, applying your own twisted version of PC to criticise "black racists".

so the black man's keeping you down, huh? didn't think so.

what you're feeling has a name:

WHITE ENTITLEMENT

own it

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NC Steve: Great post! Thanks for taking the time to move through so much territory so thoughtfully. I'm from NC also, and have never experienced a sadder disappointment than the last week of the Jesse Helms/Harvey Gantt Senate campaign in 1996. I, too, have been writing in since the fall about the dog whistle that Southerners recognize so readily while those from the North just scratch their heads. Bill and Hillary know the routine inside and out.

Very well put, particularly with regard to the issue of dealing with the sometimes offensive (or just wrongheaded) views of people we love, respect, but don't always agree with. I remember my grandmother taking me aside when I was about ten years old, shortly after my best friend (who was - and I assume still is - black) left my house; with deep concern, Gram solemnly explained how it was fine for me to *like* black people, but I had to remember that "they all stick together." This was only one of the issues she was wrong about (she had a subscription to the National Enquirer, for God's sake), but she also told wonderful stories, raised eight children by herself, cooked a mean pot roast and could always make me laugh until the very end of her life. People are complicated - and the MSM tendancy toward hysterical overreaction takes normal human complexities and inconsistencies and turns them into proof of evil intent.

But you're right - Ferraro gets no pass on this; it's a calculated, cynical move that Clinton should revile, and doesn't only out of political expediency. (If you have yet to see Matt Taibbi's brief article on Hillary Clinton in the current issue of Rolling Stone, I recommend that you check it out - it's profane, sardonic, and about as incisive a summary of Hillary's ongoing martyrdom as I've read thus far.)

Thanks again for a good read.

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Wow, excellent piece!!
Thank you.

Steve,

Thanks. Great job.

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Olbermann has been lowered to hack status to stick up for Tweety and the other bums at MSNBC. He used to be a lot better before the campaign started but now that he has picked sides he is no longer worth watching. He has lowered himself almost to Bill O status, and if he doesn't watch he will be with Tucker and soon Chris Tweety Matthews. Watch some of your old tapes Keith, and try and get back what you once had.

I disagree. I think Olbermann's comments were motivated by concern for the Democratic Party and the country, not any presumed preference he has for Sen. Obama in the Democratic primaries.

Olbermann has not declared a preference for Obama. And prior to the beginning of the primary contests, I've never gotten ANY indication that Olbermann had a bias against the Clintons or for Obama. I think assumptions of Olbermann's (or any other media figure's) preference might be shaped by sensitivity about criticism directed at your preferred candidate.

I believe Olbermann was sincere when he said that he has high personal regard and personal gratitude for Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Also, it's a mistake to using Tucker and "Chris Tweety Matthews" to make Olbermann appear less credible. Guilt by associataion--watch out!

It's hard for us, once we're emotionally invested in a candidate, to keep from internalizing criticism. I do it too, and so does almost everyone else on this blog, though they may try to deny it.

After the nomination's over and done, you will probably have an easier time watching Keith again.

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I'll add my kudos to those you have already received and ask that you send it to the talking heads at MSNBC and CNN and FOX and the like. The majority of them won't read it, of those who read it, most won't "get" it, and those who "get" it, won't say that they did. But it just might help the one or two who do, to speak up.

Bravo!

Kieth Olbernamm flew too close to the sun. Great rant, lost to O'Reilly 2979 to 1001. Great ratings there KO, only the Kool-Aid drinkers remaining and that was before the "REVEREND" Wright and "God Damn America." Olbermann/Tweety worthless PC socialist trash.

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Amazing work! This needs to be shared and digested.

So, Loki, Zumper, Silverskreen, Loki, crazyass ice cream head guy,

  • satisfied?>
  • No? I didn't think you would be.

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    That's such a politcally astute move. I am impressed.

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    Great post NCS. Long, but well reasoned. While I agree to a lot of your points, I chuckled when I read:

    "While working for Tribe “Obama analyzed and integrated Einstein's theory of relativity, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to gravity, for a Law Review article that Tribe wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space.'”"

    That reminds me of Gore and the internet thingy. Haha.

    You are aware that there would not, in fact, be an Internet as we know it if not for Al Gore, right? So says the guy who actually invented it:

    http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200009/msg00052.html

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    That's just politics (similar to Hillary's claim of bringing peace to Ireland).

    I still think it's funny to hear some of these lines related to technology from politicians.

    Yeah i really wish Gore fought back on that.

    Formerly Known As.... very well done. Thank you for all the thoughts.