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Did Clinton Win Ohio on a Lie?
Suppose someone in the North Korean government released a false story that shifted a key American election. If Bush were negatively affected, we might be bombing Pyongyang by now. But this just happened with what Hillary Clinton called "NAFTAgate" Without it, she might never have won Ohio, or her margin would have been minuscule. But as a Canadian Broadcasting Company story reveals, practically the entire story was a lie, one that played so central a role in Clinton's Ohio victory as to thoroughly taint any claim she raises about a swing state mandate.
As the Ohio primary approached,
Obama was steadily closing what a month earlier had
been a 20-point lead in the polls. He pointed out that the NAFTA trade
agreement was a centerpiece of Bill Clinton's term and that it cost massive
numbers of industrial jobs. Instead of creating a trade-fueled boom,
NAFTA helped hollow out America's industrial base, with over 200,000
manufacturing jobs disappearing in Ohio alone since the 2000 election.
Even Republicans I talked with while calling the state just before the primary
made clear that they thought it was a disaster.
Given these sentiments, Hillary
chose not to defend her husband's actions, but instead claimed Obama was
distorting her position because she'd privately opposed the agreement at the
time, had "long been a critic" and now similarly supported stronger
labor and environmental standards. Echoing her reinvention on the Iraq
War, these claims were flat-out nonsense. As David Sirota points out, she'd praised NAFTA repeatedly in public
settings from the time of its inception, even praising corporations for mounting "a very effective business
effort" on behalf of its passage. And as Obama highlighted their
contrasting positions and approaches on this and other issues, he was gaining in the polls
Then, on Feb 27, the Canadian
network CTV reported that even as Obama was publicly
attacking Bill's role in NAFTA, and arguing for a drastic overhaul, he'd had
key economic advisor Austin Goolsby arrange a meeting with the Canadian
ambassador where Goolsby reassured them that this was all just "political
positioning," pandering for campaign trail. The likely source of the anonymous Valerie Plame-style leak was
right-wing Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Chief of Staff, Ian Brodie, and US
media jumped all over it as proof of Obama's hypocrisy. The Canadian embassy denied the story and Obama also said it was
false. A follow-up March 3d leak then sent a supposed memo summarizing the
meeting to the major US media outlets, quoting Goolsby as saying Obama's
statements were more "political positioning than the clear articulation of
policy plans." Clinton made the controversy a centerpiece of her
home stretch speeches and ads, saying "You come to Ohio and you both give speeches that are very critical of
NAFTA and you send out misleading and false information about my position
regarding NAFTA and then we find out that your chief economic advisor has gone
to a foreign government and basically done the old wink wink, don't pay any
attention this is just political rhetoric." She even ran a radio ad
that misleadingly presenting itself as a news
story, which concluded, "As Senator Obama was telling one story to Ohio,
his campaign was telling a very different story to Canada."
John McCain similarly attacked Obama for the presumed
contradiction in his stand, saying "I don't think it's appropriate to go
to Ohio and tell people one thing while your aide is calling the Canadian
Ambassador and telling him something else. I certainly don't think that's
straight talk." The week before, key Clinton ally, Machinist's Union
head Tom Buffenbarger used recycled language from ads the right-wing
Club For Growth ran against Howard Dean by dismissing Obama supporters as
"latte-drinking, Prius-driving, Birkenstock-wearing, trust fund
babies." He now attacked Obama again by saying, "Working families cannot trust
a candidate who telegraphs his real position to a foreign government and then
dissembles in a nationally televised debate."
These attacks unquestionably made a
difference. They flipped voter perceptions on an issue where Obama should have
had a key advantage. In 1994, union, environmental, and social justice
activists were so angry at Clinton's staking all his political chips to pass
NAFTA that many sat out that critical election,
helping lead to Gingrich's win. Now Hillary Clinton ended up getting a majority
the 55 percent of Ohio voters who expressed a sense "that trade takes
jobs away," a majority of those worried about
their family's economic situation, and a majority of union members, whom Obama
had been winning in his recent victories. She won a 10 percent plurality in a
state where Ohioans overwhelmingly picked the economy as the top issue. And she
won overwhelmingly with late-breaking voters, the opposite of practically all
of Obama's other campaigns. Most
important, by casting doubt on Obama's integrity, the cornerstone of his
campaign, they made him seem like just another hack politician who'd say
anything to win. This gave the supposed scandal a likely impact in Texas and
Rhode Island as well, even though NAFTA was less of a central issue there.
But as the CBC report and others
make clear, the core of the story turned out to be false. The Canadian
government contacted Goolsby to clarify Obama's position on trade, not the
reverse. Although Goolsby did meet with Canada's Chicago consul general George
Rioux (not, as was reported in the original leak, Ambassador Michael Wilson),
there's no evidence that he ever described Obama's position as mere political
posturing. Instead, Goolsby responded to Canadian questions by clarifying that
Obama wasn't pushing to scrap the agreement entirely, but that labor and
environmental safeguards were important to him. The memo was simply
inaccurate, as even the Harper government now acknowledges after a firestorm of criticism by opposition
parliament members, who've accused the Harper government of
trying to help their Republican allies across the border by trying to take down
the likely and stronger of the Democratic candidates. In response, Harper called the leak "blatantly
unfair," pledged to get to the bottom of it, and said, "there was no intention to
convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a
different position in public from views expressed in private, including about
NAFTA."
Ironically, the day before the story hit American TV, Brodie told reporters questioning him on trade
that "someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to
take it with a grain of salt. . . That someone called us and told us not to
worry." But that never made the headlines and no one raised it in the
campaign.
As Matt Wallace writes in the Daily Kos, "this scandal
was manufactured out of whole cloth. Goolsbee said something consistent with
Obama's official position--that he wanted protections added, but it wasn't
going to be a fundamental change or revocation of NAFTA, and that Obama was not
a protectionist. This was morphed somewhat going into the memo, and now the
embassy admits they "may have misrepresented the Obama advisor." Even
after the memo misrepresented Obama, the Harper government took it a step
further and then leaked a completely fantastic version of the story to the
press, in order to maximize the bloodletting."
The Harper government has now apologized for any interference in an
American political campaign, but the damage is done. Clinton had other factors
that benefited her this round, including pretty questionable ones. Her 3:00 AM
ad echoed the worst of Dick Cheney and Rudy Giuliani. When asked if she'd
"take Senator Obama on his word that he's not a Muslim," she left the
door open to the right wing lies by saying "there's nothing to base that
on. As far as I know." She just handed McCain his campaign
script by saying, "I think that I have a
lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator
McCain has a lifetime of experience to the White House. And Senator Obama has a
speech he gave in 2002." These, taken together with a week of media
framing that the respected Project for Excellence in Journalism described as overwhelmingly critical of
Obama, and initial twenty five-point margins based on name familiarity and
insider connections, also contributed strongly to her Ohio victory.
Back-to-back sympathetic Saturday Night Lives shows (the first after the
strike) probably helped as well, as did support from popular governor Ted
Strickland. Clinton may even have benefited from Rush
Limbaugh's exhortation to his listeners to cross over and vote for her to keep
the Democrats bloodying each other up. But "NAFTAgate" was key.
Without it her victory would have been non-existent or minimal. The nine delegates Clinton netted from Ohio
can't be changed, but the salience of this lie casts into doubt everything she
says about the lessons of this victory.
Paul Rogat Loeb is the author of The Impossible Will
Take a Little While: A Citizen's Guide to Hope in a Time of Fear, named the #3
political book of 2004 by the History Channel and the American Book
Association. His previous books include Soul of a Citizen: Living With
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Comments (14)
"""Did Clinton Win Ohio on a Lie?"""
Which one? :)
March 6, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
YES.SHE.DID.
March 6, 2008 10:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Today Clinton compounded the disaster she is for the Democratic Party by endorsing McCain as having "crossed the threshold" to being qualified to be Commander in Chief, as had she, but not Obama. She may well find other such immoral tactics which just might get her close enough to the nomination that she can sell herself to the super delegates and win that way. She cannot win the general election though, having virtually admitted that McCain is a better choice than she is.
And, if she fails to get the nomination she will probably have so damaged Obama's chances against McCain as to ensure that she can become the Democratic Candidate in 2012 when McCain retires to a nursing home. Today I decided not to vote for Clinton at any time for any job.
March 6, 2008 10:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is Hillary Clinton's Comeback A Fairytale?
Did our Republican friends help make the Democratic Primaries held on Tuesday a FAIRYTALE for democratic voters by PUBLICLY CLAIMING they voted for (AGAINST) Hillary Clinton in the primary election?
Are Hillary's wins due to an overwhelming desire of democrats, independents, and truly converted ”republicans for democrats” wanting her to stay in the race or were her wins due to votes AGAINST her by our Republican Friends.
Did our Republican Friends write a fairytale chapter in Hillary’s claim of victories on Tuesday?
Well, let’s see. The last time I checked, the definitions for the word AGAINST, meant:
1. In a direction or course opposite to...
2. In hostile opposition or resistance to...
3. Contrary to; opposed to...
4. In competition with...
5. Directly opposite to...
If Republicans voted AGAINST Hillary Clinton in the democratic primary (as publicly claimed and reported on national television and radio broadcasts by Republican voters) to then later vote AGAINST her in the national election, what does this substantiate?
I realize cross voting is allowed in some primaries. However, when this happens and our Republican friends PUBLICIZE their choice AGAINST her, can she continue to claim TRUE victory based on the vote of democrats and independents, and truly converted republicans for democrats?
Thus, how many of the votes counted were FOR Hillary and how many were AGAINST Hillary?
Fairytale Win?
March 7, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did Clinton win Ohio on a lie?
The Obama supporter answer: Yes, and it shows that she'll stoop to anything to win, even using lies to tear down a fellow Democrat.
The Hillary supporter answer: Yes! And that's why we love her! If she can't have the nomination then screw the Democratic party!
March 7, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey you guys remember Monica Lewinsky?Bill Clinton pointing his finger at the Camera and saying I did not have SEX with that woman!!!So what else is NEW?If the people in PA are that STUPID to vote for the IRON WITCH on the Basis of a LIE (ie. Nafta Gate) which now turns out to be totally FALSE then you deserve what you get!!!
This alone proves that they will say or destroy anyone that gets in there way to Obtain Power!!
Then to keep it at all COST!!!She is already trying to steal the election by a backroom Deal.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
March 7, 2008 2:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wow, I didn't even realize it was that bad. How come this is getting no coverage? I would have thought this was the sort of thing TPM would be covering. Instead, they're wasting time on nonsense like the "monster" comment. What's going on? Has TPM been taken over by the GOP?
March 7, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Goolsby did provide the wink and nod assurance to Canada to take it with a grain of salt. The memo which he now claims misrepresented his position circulated to some 120 officials in the Candadian government. Obama denied that such contact had been made for about a week when the memo surfaced. If this was all the Goolsby was doing why didn't Obama just say so rather than pretending it didn't happen. Lying about what happened is not the politics of change. It is the politics of phony.
I doubt that the voters care to much about this type of back channel reassurance to Canada that both candidates will be reasonable (and there is reason to think that the Candadians would be delighted if we strengthened the environmental protections involved) but when a candidate gets caught -- a representative is proved to have done something -- and the candidate continues to lie about it, it is simply ridiculous.
March 7, 2008 3:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Shorter AJM: I want to tear Obama down and therefore I want to believe he is a liar, so I will never think or speak of this in any other way.
It couldn't have possibly been a case of understanding on Obama's part that Goolsbee's meeting in Chicago was not a meeting about Nafta, or that the Canadian note-taker put Goolsbee's words into a different form that gave them an different slant.
March 7, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
"...but when a candidate gets caught -- a representative is proved to have done something -- and the candidate continues to lie about it, it is simply ridiculous..."
"...someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. . . That someone called us and told us not to worry."--emphasis mine
You're talking about Clinton, right?
The same Clinton who claimed bringing peace to Northern Ireland (LIE), opening the already opened borders for Kosovo refugees (LIE) and singlehandedly took on all of Red China in a speech about womenfolk (SIGH)???
She claims that the GOP candidate is ready to be commander in chief, but her Democratic rival isn't. Hmmmmm.
THOUSANDS of people work as a part of the White House operation every day. Dozens (if not more) work there so much, they might as well live there. There's not a single one of them who has less of a claim to Commander-in-Chief fitness than Hillary Clinton.
The President doesn't work in a vacuum (Dubya excepted). The President relies on many advisors and staff persons to inform the decisions that direct our country. Clinton is SO duplicitous as to disparage Obama non-stop for the last week ALL THE WHILE DROPPING HINTS that he would be her running mate!!!
How do you reconcile her judgment on selecting such a "loser" as SECOND-IN-COMMAND? By her stated criteria, wouldn't McCain be the better choice? Think about it...
March 7, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why hasnt the national media [especially the tv media] picked up the "real" story even half as much as they made out of it initially. I heard a very short reference to this by Keith Obermann yesterday and that was it. It is starting to sound more and more like HRC's campaign was the one who made the statements that Obama is accused of making and that Obama was set up by the Conservatives in Canada. This is a critical issue given how it likely affected Obama significantly in Ohio and could adversely affect his credibility going forward.
On an unrelated note, why is the Media playing into the Clinton Campaign's spin that we should look at the current race as if they are starting over and whoever wins Pennsylvania should get the nomination? Obama is again going to get over 60% in Mississippi, possibly over 60% in Wyoming, and probably over 60% in North Carolina, while HRC gets 55% in Ohio and under 51% in Texas (and likely loses the delegate count in Texas). PA is her state to win just like NC and Miss are his states to win; but I would bet that he will net more delegates out of NC and possibly even Miss than HRC nets out of PA. Someone needs to summarize why the two candidates are where they are -- Obama wins his states in Landslides and she wins hers by less than 10%. That's how you accumulate delegates. Isnt the "media bias" really favoring Clinton or is it just that they are trying to create news by helping this election to stay a horse race?
It may not sound like it, but, before Iowa (and listening to a few of Obama's inspirational speeches), I was a Hillary supporter. Now, if she manages to steal the nomination, I will have to hold my nose in order to vote for her.
March 7, 2008 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
AJM:
Several problems with your post:
(1) Hillary has been having her own back channel conversations with the Canadians, with the key difference being that her campaign actually initiated the conversations with the Canadian government (as opposed to Obama, whose campaign we now know was contacted by the Canadian government).
(2) Obama made a mistake by saying that there had been no communication between his campaign and the Candians -- not a lie, a mistake -- but he made that statement in response to the charge (now proven false) that Obama's campaign had reached out to the Canadians, which was in fact untrue. But that has not stopped the Clinton Campaign from conflagrating the situation in order to score important points in Ohio on March 4. When it was about that mistake, it was fair crriticism. Now that she continues the attack -- and she did it again today -- it is a smear, one that would have made Lee Atwater proud (at least befor ehe got the brain tumor and recanted his evil political deeds on his deathbed).
(3) The contention that Obama "continued to lie about it" once the communication had been established is a Clintonian fantasy, a much bigger lie than the mistake Obama made in denying it when it was first alleged, and her continued smears on this issue tell me that we cannot trust a thing that is said by her or her campaign.
So this is who we want picking up the red phone, or protecting rust belt workers from Free Trade?
In his presidency, Bill Clinton championed two things that actually got enacted -- both of which were mainstream Republican ideas: Welfare Reform and NAFTA; and one thing that failed miserably - the initiative for a single payor universal health care system, which was a wonderful idea that went nowhere (and set universal health care back alomst 20 years) in large measure because of Hillary Clinton's leadership style -- top down management, which alienated legislators in her own party, and is reminiscent of Dick Cheney's style of politics. And this latest round of negative campaign tactics also brings Dick Cheney to mind. In all candor, I will vote for Hillary despite this if she is the nominee -- because the Supreme Court is too important to lose for the next 30 years because she has so deeply disappointed me in her race against Obama. And it was only a few months ago where I was really confused and unsure of which of the two I preferred to vote for, and was really struck by how firtunate it was that we lucked into such a strong group of candidates, especially her and Obama. Although I will vote for her, I no longer have any confusion at all. She has proven herself unworthy as a democrat, and deeply unwiorthy of the nomination this year. I am 50 years old, and have seen a lot of politics over the years, and I find her tactics in this year (of all years) to be absolutely despicable -- kitchen sink smear tactics worthy of the sleaziest Republicans I have been critical of these past 28 years. Against a Republican, I understand it, although I disagree with it. Against a Democrat, it is almost unbearable (and if the tables were turned, and it was Obama regularly smearing Clinton in this way, I would feel just as strongly the other way).
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. You should never shit in the bed you sleep in. For all of her vaunted (and self-described) experience, she does not seem to have learned these two lessons, which are among the most obvious and endearing principles to live by, for a very good reason -- one that seems to have escaped her and her campaign advisors. But exposure to light is the most powerful disinfectant, as we are about to find out in the sad case of Hillary Clinton.
March 7, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Simple answer to a simple question: YES.
March 7, 2008 5:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Hillary: Obama Camp Tells Americans One Thing, Foreigners Another
By Greg Sargent - March 7, 2008, 3:17PM
Hillary addresses the resignation of Samantha Power and her comments about Obama's withdrawal plan, tying them to NAFTA-gate...
Well I think Sen. Obama did the right thing, but I think it’s important to look at what she and his other advisors say behind closed doors, particularly when they’re talking to foreign governments and foreign press. It raises disturbing questions about what the real planning and policy positions inside the Obama campaign happen to be.
"Particularly when they're talking to foreign governments and press." So Hillary, in seeking to tie Power's Iraq comments to NAFTA, is claiming, in effect, that the Obama camp tells Americans one thing and foreigners another, right?"
For as long as the media (and especially the national media) allow the Clinton Campaign to run with this bogus NAFTA story, we are going to hear her saying things like this. Who is going to call her to the carpet on these misrepresentations, misstatements and distortions. The Superdelegates should step in now and tell her that if she continues this type of distructive behavior, then it is over.
March 7, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
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