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Dembillc wins the "Troll You'd Most Like to Have a Beer With" award
TPM reader, dembillc, who goes by the name de guerre of Bill C, has shocked TPM pundits and insiders by winning the prized Troll You'd Most Like to Have a Beer With award. After posting a comment listing 63 (yes, 63) alleged lies by Barack Obama, billysumday, who heads the TYMLTHABW committee was moved to remark, "You sound like a lot of fun. We should hang out sometime." Dembillc was so excited by this endorsement that it proceeded to post the same list of 63 lies again in the same thread.
But previous frontrunner, gotalife, refuses to bow out. In a TPM interview gotalife vowed to continue the race:
Yes, dembillc, is eloquent, but it has no experience. ItBoth trolls have aggressively sought the endorsement of former candidate, Marginal Player, who dropped out several weeks ago. Marginal Player has so far refused to endorse. Trolls close to Marginal tells us that it intends to play the role of elder statestroll in order to end the race before convention. A bitter race might threaten the chances TPM's nominee the Annual Troll Games in November.
only joined the site in March. I've been fighting the good fight on
TPM since late February. If you choose me to have a beer with,
I'll be ready to smear on beer 1. dembillc can wait its g-ddamn turn.
Saddle up folks, this one is going all the way to convention.
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Comments (189)
dembillc hasn't yet passed the Keg-Stander in Chief threshold which is somewhere in the range of 10 seconds plus. Rumor has it, with consistent training, gotalife may declare that said threshold has been passed sometime in August.
March 30, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd also like to have a beer with that guy who called Obama a "condescending prick" simply because Obama stated that he'd like to see Clinton continue her campaign.
A person like that just seems like a chill, roll w/the punches, easy-going kind of guy.
Me: You seem cool, wanna grab a beer?
Them: Get your head out of your ass, Obama will destroy our country!!
Me, backing away slowly: Mmmmmmmkaaaay.
March 30, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're the head of the committee. Add it to the list.
PS Thanks for the inspiration
March 30, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
March 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has the committee given due consideration to Lalo and Louisville1975?
I just want to make sure that all the people's voices are heard and all the votes are actually counted...
March 30, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh and don't forget that ever lovable CR1992
March 30, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well inasmuch as I just want to pour a beer on gotalife, I guess that would be a vote against him, in favor of dembillc, so I think I agree.
March 30, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
He deserved the victory but please use my actual words.
His Obama lies list is a classic but we need to add this and is ongoing.
"Addressing civil rights activists in Selma, Ala., a year ago, Sen. Barack Obama traced his "very existence" to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother. Key details are either untrue or grossly oversimplified."
It is hilarious to be called a troll for supporting a Dem on a Dem blog.
Anyhoo, congrats to dembillc and keep up the great work.
God bless America!
March 30, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said! You just got my vote.
March 30, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
(Why am I responding to this?)
Obama "misspoke." The program that brought Obama's father to America was not funded by Kennedy originally. Obama's father came to America in 1959. Kennedy funded that program in 1960.
So technically you are correct in that Kennedy did not literally pay for Obama's father's plane flight. But if we're looking at the spirit of the law instead of the letter of the law, I'd say it's pretty much the same thing. Also, Obama's campaign has acknowledged this mistake.
Buddy, ya need a beer.
March 30, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, now I'm torn-- does this place have PBR? Or is that the next place?
March 30, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obviously you'd have to ask Sinbad.
March 30, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheap shots and beer, right here. Why go anywhere else?
:)
March 30, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, the shots here are cheap alright. I'm presently buzzing from the rounds that Desidero just bought me.
March 30, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheap buzz? Ugh.
A (good, expensive) beer and a couple of aspirins ought to clear that up. .
What I want to know is Genghis paying? I noticed when the topic came up he skedaddled....
March 30, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course the guy who brings up having a few cold ones is nowhere to be found when the tab shows up. Typical! :)
March 30, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
This Romulan Ale is pricey stuff.
{hic}
March 30, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but it's that extra kick you're paying for.
March 30, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually it's the Rohypnol that does it, not the cheap ale. Figured DF wouldn't mind, it being the Southern Comfort of the jet-set crowd.
March 31, 2008 4:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's taking animosity to ridiculous heights.
Totally unnecessary.
March 31, 2008 6:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know, sometimes the thing's Desidero writes are so ironic that I wonder if it's intentional. Of course, the irony here is that this cheap shot was in response to me accusing her of taking cheap shots. Then again, maybe it's not actually ironic since it's more or less what I've come to expect.
March 31, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm part of the jet set crowd?
Woo hoo!
March 31, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Next place.
March 30, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
*sneeeeeeerk*
Ah, Sinbad.
March 30, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
For PBR, I'd say here AND the next place!
Or Hamm's.
March 31, 2008 12:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
But this place has quarter wings.
March 31, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pew! pew! pew!
March 31, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did Obama misspeak about his father being a goat herder when he got the grant to come to the US, or was that just some misunderstanding fan of his?
(Barack Sr. was a clerk in Nairobi for about 5 years before leaving for the US if the chronology his first wife tells is correct).
March 30, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every time I've ever heard him say it, he claims that his father worked as a clerk for the British.
It was his grandfather that he claims was a goat herder.
March 30, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm.. I'm glad you brought this up because, no matter how it turns out, it's incredibly relevant and for this reason is an issue at the forefront of everyone's mind.
March 30, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. I've gotten excited about electing a guy whose dad was a goatherder. Historic step for America. If in October it turns out his dad was herding cattle, or, jeesus christ, just growing taro or something -- you are going to be looking at one disappointed voter. Probably switch my vote to Nader.
March 30, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hahaha!! Goatherders of the world, unite!
March 30, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well then why did we have to hear so much about "Dreams of My Father"? So now his childhood and extended African/Indonesian connections are irrelevant, but back when Marc Andreessen met with him, all this stuff gave Obama his extended world view that will make our enemies love us.
This is the crap in the Obama campaign that drives me crazy. It's important as long as Obama's team is talking about it, just no one else talk about it or they're playing petty politics or some kind of identity card.
March 31, 2008 1:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think anyone would dispute that you have been driven crazy.
March 31, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me tell a story that I've told many time:
At one time my grandfather was the superintendent of schools. However, he had a drinking problem and after a while he was "demoted" to being principal of a school. (Insane, right?) The drinking problem continued, and he was then "demoted" to being a teacher. Further insanity.
So, what's the purpose of me telling this tale now? Well, it turns out that it's not true. It was something I'd been told by one of my aunts or uncles, and it was such a good story that I repeated it often.
I never had a chance to know my grandfather who died before I was born due to cirrhosis of the liver (the drinking problem part was true). Similarly, Obama wasn't there when his father left Africa to come to America, so I think it's understandable if he gets a few of the details wrong. Just like I think it's understandable that Hillary had thought for a while that she was named after Sir Hillary. Stories get told in families that sometimes aren't exactly true.
March 30, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just like after telling the Tuzla story over and over eventually she was ducking and running for cover even though her own story was different in the book she wrote five years ago.
March 30, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ben, telling stories about your alleged Alchoholic Grandfather for laughs reminds me of Obama telling stories about his alleged Racist Grandmother to spin his invlovement with Rev Wright. Really sad.
March 31, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm disturbed that you thought the story was funny, dembillc.
Of course, since you totally missed the point of both my story and Obama's speech, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Seriously, though, what in the world did you find funny about it? That he was an alcoholic?
On the basis of this, I'd like to request the committee to consider revoking your "most like to have a beer with" status. I'm not usually so direct, but you disgust me.
March 31, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, this was pretty cold. I thought your story was a very good one.
March 31, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks.
I re-read what I posted, and I still have no idea where he got his "laughs" from.
March 31, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's likely that it was simply the obvious way to shoehorn your story into a dig against Obama.
March 31, 2008 6:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama misspoke that Kennedy supported the program, they supported the second airlift.
That doesn't change the fact that the FIRST program DID help Obama's father.
He got the essence right, the details off just a tad.
He must be given the benefit of the doubt since he was busy dodging sniper fire while passing NAFTA, SCHIP and FMLA all at the same time when he gave that answer...
March 30, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or Obama could be a born liar.
March 31, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, you are called a troll for posting off-topic, excessive, inflammatory, racially troubling, highly rude statements without remorse or even, it seems, self-awareness. You never participate in any conversations, just repeat talking points and lies in the most insulting way possible, trying to derail conversations with your own rhetoric.
March 30, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotalife, it is fun to attempt to argue for Hillary on a Obama Blog. I will have to give TPM credit for letting my voice be heard and not just shutting me off like Huffpost or DailyKos, and I actually am impressed that some Obama folks have a sense of humor, like the guy who started this post. I figure that the Reason Obamaites rule the blogs is that they are mostly Limosine Liberals who have trust funds and don't work or they are kids who do not work yet. Since I work from home, and am my own boss, and am horrified by the Clinton bashing going on in this campaign I try to chip away at the ignorant hoodwinked Obama supporters. I really want tro know what is it these trolls did not like about the Clinton years? Was it the Peace or the Prosperity?
March 31, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I have been banned at Daily Obama and censored at the obama post. No difference from dissent of the dittoheads at the lgf. Charles let me post there for months before he had enough of my truth and reality.
When Clinton wins, we will take over these so called left wing progressive blogs.
March 31, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
When Hillary wins we should just scrap most Obama sites altogether and promote Talkleft and Taylor Marsh to the top of the heap.
March 31, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now this is funny. You all should start a support group.
March 31, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hilarious. Or dare I say: Hillyarious.
March 30, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did someone say let's go out for a beer?
I'm game. You buying?
I'll drink you all under the table.
(heh.)
March 30, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah...gotalife is running on the old 35 Minutes of Experience platform.
March 30, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know if he intended it or not, but Obama did get a nice dig in at Hillary with the "she should run as long as she wants" comment, since it seems to suggest that the only criterion to her continuing to run is whether or not she wants to, not whether she's a viable candidate or has a chance of winning.
And isn't that what her campaign has come to?
Meanwhile, this troll thread is hilarious!
March 30, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Addressing civil rights activists in Selma, Ala., a year ago, Sen. Barack Obama traced his "very existence" to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother. Key details are either untrue or grossly oversimplified."
This may be the best one yet, because you know, gotalife, that Teddy endorsed Obama. I suspect this one will be exploded forthwith.
LOL!
March 30, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this one is my favorite.
"30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially."
March 30, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
At the time Obama made the comment, I assumed he was talking about the generosity of the Kennedys either as public servants (and thus the scholarship was part of a foreign aid program) or as philanthropists through a family foundation or something.
Seems like it'll be one or t'other, and the Hillary supporters will be caught, once again, with their desperation and dishonesty showing.
March 30, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Being from Mass. I must say how impressive that it is for Obama that the woman killer Teddy Kennedy, leave Mary Joe in the car to die and save myself, came out for him.
March 31, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not even an original list.
A simple google search shows the same thing posted in other places. link
March 30, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Marginal Player has not conceded this race! He is the Mike Gravel of trolls! Or has Gravel dropped out? I can't remember...
March 30, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's going Libertarian on us.
March 30, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to worry Des. Marginal Player has reappeared. It looks like he has abandoned the cafe for just the headlines on TPM frontpage.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/hillary_raising_money_off_call.php
March 31, 2008 3:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or has Gravel dropped out? I can't remember...
I think Gravelmentum has been halted.
March 30, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Confession: Gravel still sends me weekly emails. I think there was a "Please Buy Mike A Sandwich" day, recently. Note: no, I never sent him money. Note: yes, I might consider buying him a sandwich, but how can I be sure he won't just blow it on booze?
March 30, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's true that he might, but let's be honest: Doesn't the guy probably deserve a drink?
March 30, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotalife is intellegent and I love the avatar. I'm sticking with gotalife.
One troll that has been left out is Louisville1975. Maybe it's because that one's not intelligent. And a true asshole. I definitely would not want to have a beer with that one.
Hey, Genghis--nice job! :-)
March 30, 2008 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I dunno.
There's been some posts where he's been quite reasonable.
I think dembillc is the most unreasonable, most virulent.
We all get passionate and say things we'd probably take back if we were talking to one another in person.
Dembillc is the only one I've read (PrObama or Pro-Clinton) that has never ever sought to see the other side of the discussion at least once.
I respect gotalife because he's said he'd vote whoever wins Dem primary, he just STRONGLY prefers Clinton. Nothing wrong with that (other than the Right-wing talking points from time to time).
March 30, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lalo is feeling totally left out about now.
March 30, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I've got to defend Louisville too. I've called him a troll myself, but I was out of line.
March 30, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Louisville1975 isn't a troll, he's a Cleveland Browns fan. That's an entirely different species, one that I believe has yet to be properly classified.
March 30, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey now... I'm a Brownie for Obama. Don't go lumping us together like we're batter or something. Okay - Okay... I'll admit we're a different breed.
March 31, 2008 1:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Numbers 2 thru 9 are my favs. Couldn’t stop laughing.
Before you anoint one or the other of said trolls as the winner of the "Troll You'd Most Like to Have a Beer With" award, I think there should be some way of defining who won the CIC (Creeptoids in Caca) test.
March 30, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why no love for Lalo35adm? Somehow I think Lalo's incoherent mumblings or posting of blind links might make beer taste even better.
For real.
March 30, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw, don't be so harsh with Lalo. I have a soft spot for him, although his posts often do seem emotionally over-wrought. I don't think Lalo's a troll--just a bruised Hillary supporter.
March 30, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree; there's something lost and forlorn hidden deep within his vicious diatribes.
March 31, 2008 12:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I vote Lalo. As tireless as he/she is nonsensical. Sure, gotalife has a good presentation, but Lalo comes up with something original every time. When compared to Lalo, gotalife's trolling is awfully textbook and strikes me as being rather pedestrian.
March 30, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you, though I am torn by the random effect that is provided by Louisville.
Ya just never know which one you will get.
March 31, 2008 1:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Every time I've ever heard him say it, he claims that his father worked as a clerk for the British.
It was his grandfather that he claims was a goat herder.
March 30, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've *never* heard Lalo claim either of those things. Please, if you're going to attack the poor guy, do it with some evidence -- talk about the quality of his posts -- not these random assertions about his father being a goatherder.
March 31, 2008 6:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's Lalo or Louisville for me...
I know people are probably wondering how anyone who is paying attention could still be undecided this far along into the process, but I would just remind them that this is a closely contested race, and none of the candidates are all that far apart on the issues.
March 30, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ew. Louisville? Really? Well, it might be fun to get him really drunk and then dare him to do a bunch of stupid and humiliating things in public. Okay, maybe it would be fun to have a few beers with Louisville.
March 30, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
His grandfather was a goatherder, but I've heard him say that his father grew up herding goats in Kenya - i.e. in his formative years before he went away to college.
March 30, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, no. Now you're getting Barack confused with Louisville 1975. It's *Barack* whose grandfather herded goats.
March 31, 2008 6:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hechuva job, gotalife!
March 30, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where is Marginal? I suspect foul play, or maybe just foul attitude.
March 30, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very funny thread. Thanks to all the jokesters for the many laughs.
March 30, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I need will need to elevate my level of vitriol to get in the running!
March 30, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
You will need to proof read before posting as well. Happens to me all the time : )
March 30, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
thats a low blow
March 30, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
But I am willing to overlook it as I am running for office and I will have to gently walk along the divide.
March 30, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha!
March 30, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
You might never make it...
March 30, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish that I could nominate you, but you proved to be a little too willing to engage sincerely during our last encounter. If you're really interested in upping your game you could always take a cue from Lalo: Take some hyperbole, sprinkle with a little Latin, roll it into a ball, chuck it and then run for the hills.
March 30, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I need to learn from Lalo.
March 30, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROTFLMAO - Funniest thing I've read here yet. This Buds for you Ghengis - DF too.
March 30, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dembillc hasn't even seen fit to troll on a post celebrating him, so I don't know ...
March 30, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I cannot afford to blog 24/7 like Obama supporters who are either Limosine Liberal trustfunders who don't work because they don't have to, or college kids for Obama who don't work yet, or dare I say, unemployed Black voters. Most Clinton supporters are hardworking Blue collar type Reagon democrats who work to hard to blog all day.
March 31, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is there sniper fire while this beer drinking is going on? Sniper fire would make it much more exciting.
Also, what kind of beer? If it's Obama beer, I think it would be Guinness - dark and delicious with a good head. As for Hillary beer? I'd have to guess Coors Lite.
March 30, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its in everyones interest to be drinking Yuengling.
March 30, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hah! Well played.
March 30, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yuengling is great stuff, I prefer the Black and Tan the most, it is so much better than the Coors Lite which I find to be tasteless yet still bitter and lacking any robust substance. ; )
March 30, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
or Rolling Rock
March 30, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is that what they deliver to offices? Filtered water or something?
March 31, 2008 1:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wish I could handle Guiness but I can't. I'm a wuss.
I like Fat Tire. Or a good ol' frosty, cold Lone Star.
March 31, 2008 1:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. Lone Star's out. You had your primary already. Turns out Rolling Stone is out too. It's brewed in Newark now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Rock
Here's appropriate photo for you all: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/us/politics/29penn.html?em&ex=1206936000&en=88c08c19d481ba5d&ei=5087%0A
March 31, 2008 2:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just as soon as I saw that photo yesterday and seeing it was at a pub in Latrobe I had to wonder if he was going to have a word or two with A-B about moving the Rolling Rock production back to Latrobe. It hasn't been the same since they bought the brand and stole much of that town's economic blood.
the bastards...
Hope he was enjoying a Yingling in spite.
March 31, 2008 6:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
WHAT?!
As an Obama supporter and a proponent of transparency in beer advertising, I reject and denounce Rolling Rock.
March 31, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whoops! Guess I should worry more about my post than not spilling my beer.
Anywho...there is no way Hillay is Coors. She will not be MADE in Colorado.
No, no. I think she is more like Stag. Cheap, leaves a bad taste in your mouth, and only slightly better than no beer at all.
March 31, 2008 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama does not have a beer as Muslim's do not drink Achohol.
March 31, 2008 12:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
You must've missed Sunday's huge Yuengling story:
"He shook a few hands and took a few more sips of beer before he walked out, the headline writing itself: 'The Candidate You Can Drink a Beer With...'"
Obama drinks beer in violation of Islamic law! He also doesn't have facial hair, doesn't pray to Mecca, and I'm sure he's been spotted eating pork.
Oh, yeah; from the same story:
"At Altoona's Original Texas Dog restaurant yesterday, the campaign planned a round table with three women at the local stop. Munching on hot dogs while talking health care is much more 'man of the people' than shouting, 'I love you back,' to adoring, screaming crowds."
Hot dogs are a violation against many dietary laws.
March 31, 2008 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let's be fair: hot dogs are also a violation of many sanitary and possibly natural laws, as well.
March 31, 2008 1:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've always liked Labatt's. Which means I live in Michigan under Gov. Jen Granholm, eh.
March 31, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah, no. Drinking Canadian beer might display an unseemly ambivalence about renegotiating NAFTA.
Besides, Labatt's tastes almost as bad as Coors.
April 1, 2008 1:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know about "have a beer with," but I will say this:
Chelsea has a crush on Billy Glad.
He's a nice looking boy, but hardly in her class.
Especially since she got her jowls lifted.
If he emails her one more time to come over to his trailer and slam Gallo Sangrias with him... his IP address is going to the FBI.
March 30, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
party foul
March 30, 2008 10:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, I can't take it when I see or hear meanness toward Chelsea. She's a lovely young woman.
Please don't do that!
March 31, 2008 1:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yuengling and Rolling Rocks it is. On me.
You kids have been having all the fun without me. At least I had mobile-delivered entertainment for my train ride home. The best thing about TPM posts is that the comments are always funnier that the original post.
As to the question at hand, I'm on the fence. I was an early Marginal supporter, but since Mar-mar's gone Libertarian and refused to endorse, I'm stuck. On one hand, gotalife showed some class for congratulating dembillc, which hasn't even paid respect to its own thread. I don't drink beers with classy trolls, so advantage dembillc. On the other hand, gotalife had the cojones to re-post it's talking points on this thread. Now that's a troll! So we're back to deuce.
Lalo and Louisville are not in the running. Yes, they are trolls, but at least they respond to you sometimes and don't cut-and-paste the same shit every time. DF, I know that you have a personal beef with Lalo, but you'll have to have a beer with it on your own time. airwon, nice try. You're too smart for your own good. Tough break. (Personally, I might be tempted to nominate newcomer MillaJ, but MillaJ is racist enough to be scary, and I worry about what might happen if it gets drunk.)
Billysumday, you're the Howard Dean of this party. Lead us wanderers from the wilderness.
March 30, 2008 10:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
The funniest development of this thread, for me, was a simple observation... this whole time, I had thought that gotalife's name was actually "GoatLife!" Who knew!
March 30, 2008 11:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another Freudian experience, eh?
;-)
March 31, 2008 2:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, gotalife and goatlife are two different people. I'm surprised goatlife hasn't posted on this thread yet, because her father actually *was* a goatherder.
March 31, 2008 6:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, if that's the case then, although I'm admittedly torn, I think I might have to go with gotalife. The tie-breaker: Scalia fangul avatar.
Sometimes it's the little aesthetic touches that really make the difference.
March 30, 2008 11:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes! The avatar is what makes gotalife my favorite.
March 31, 2008 1:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
If Billy G doesn't win this contest, there is no justice in the universe. He's hilarious when sober (if I can assume he's sober when he posts saying things like "McCain has already won the 'character' issue over either Obama or Clinton", or his bizarre rant comparing something Wright said that Obama denounced with something Malcom X and Ron Paul said, proving that Obama was toast). After a few beers he'd be standing on the bar explaining the connections between Obama, Area 51, the number "33" on the Rolling Rock label, static electricity, Fidel Castro and shoes on the side of the road.
If anyone tries to say that he isn't really a troll according to "the rules" then I say the rules be damned, I simply refuse to allow his many contributions to be disenfranchised. If necessary I will take this fight all the way to the convention.
Besides, with some of the others mentioned here I'd feel like I had to make sure there weren't any knives or forks or other sharp implements or breakable bottles with reach before I'd want to sit down for a beer with them.
March 30, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
No way. I stand up for Billy Glad. If you want to nominate Billy Glad, you'll have to nominate me first. Yes, he would be fun to have a beer with. Yes, he can be a little wacky. But he is no troll. He's funny, he can criticize his own candidate, and I appreciate his uncommon perspective. Sorry, rabbit. You can't go changing the rules just because they disadvantage your preferred candidate.
March 30, 2008 10:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd have to second this. I definitely don't agree with him most of the time, but he's not a troll. If we let the standard merely become people that we don't agree with then we all end up having to have beers with each other which admittedly does not sound all that bad, but would potentially turn into a drunken sloppy mess.
March 30, 2008 11:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I like Billy too.
And judging from his posts and comments, I suspect we don't have to get him drunk to get him to say a bunch of loopy, funny shit.
Though it'd probably be fun to get drunk with him anyway.
March 31, 2008 1:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
I may be a bit nostalgic because I haven't seen her for a while, but I always wanted to tee off on Aimey May...with that stupid damn sheep she (?) uses for an avatar.
I'm always telling people not to feed the trolls. But in this very funny thread, it's like you guys have put them in a zoo...and we're just throwing peanuts. A very effective way of reacting to what has become a sort of interesting collection of trolls.
BTW, I'd like to point out that while gotalife claims to be "a Dem supporting a Dem on a Dem blog" his avatar is saying something else.
March 30, 2008 11:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
And you probably don't have to be Italian to get the memo.
March 31, 2008 12:02 AM | Reply | Permalink
I defend Aimey May as well. (How did I become the great defender of Clinton supporters?) Not everyone who irritates you or has an annoying avatar is a troll. I humbly submit Genghis' Rules For Troll Spotting:
Anyone who meets three or more of the following criteria is definitely a troll. Anyone who meets two is probably a troll. Anyone who meets one might be a troll.
1) Posts identical comments on multiple threads (or, in the illustrious billdemc's case, the same thread. Accidental double posts excluded of course.)
2) Consistently posts complete non sequiturs and comments unrelated to the topic.
3) Repeatedly invoke the same tired cliches, e.g. drink the kool aid, empty suit, etc.
4) Consistently engage in insults and ad hominem attacks against candidates and other posters. (Witty repartees are permitted, and occasional flashes of anger are forgiven.)
5) Exhibit overt racism, sexism, or homophobia. (And I mean overt.)
March 31, 2008 12:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
I forgot 6) AGGRESSIVE USE OF ALL CAPS AND EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!
March 31, 2008 12:29 AM | Reply | Permalink
excepting Idiotic, of course :) s/he gets a pass because it's all good harmless fun.
March 31, 2008 12:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, you mean Rae! Obama people are all Hitler Youth Rae! In this weird way, I started to find her kind of sweet.
March 31, 2008 12:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry anneeliz. I just noticed that you already presented the same rules more succinctly:
March 31, 2008 12:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
By that definition would that make the HRC campaign trolls?
Snarky? You bet.
March 31, 2008 1:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, snap.
March 31, 2008 6:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
And Thanks, Anneeliz, for mentioning Rae... though I was torn, in that I thought that if I mentioned her, that it would just be 'feeding the troll'. There are far more entertaining trolls to follow.
March 31, 2008 12:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You define the contest in terms of trollishness, I define it more inclusively in terms of "people I disagree with", and under that category Billy G is absolutely the best choice for having a beer with. Can anyone dispute that? You're trying to disen-beer-ize all of the non-trolls you disagree with, but I'm fighting to include this key demographic.
I also maintain that anyone who argues that McCain has already won the "character" contest against Obama must thereby gain some sort of "honorary troll" status at the very least. But I yield to the rules committee on that point.
March 31, 2008 12:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought they defined a troll as anyone they disagreed with.
March 31, 2008 1:12 AM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe you came late... but you are not a troll Candidate.
Try as you may.
March 31, 2008 2:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
I thought they defined a troll as anyone they disagreed with.
No they weren't. But then I tried to go all Hillary on them and change the rules in the middle of the game and expand the definition of "troll" that way. They aren't having any of it, though.
March 31, 2008 2:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
rabbit, I have no wish to deny your first amendment right to have a beer with whomever you like, and I'll happily join you for a pint with Billy Glad. But the contest is called "Troll You'd Most Like to Have a Beer With". You can't just change the nature of the contest because you want to drink with Billy Glad. You can speak to committee chairman, billysumday, about offering an honorary troll degree to Glad for his excellent work in the field of McCain talking points, but I plan to oppose.
March 31, 2008 1:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
All I can picture for the post-troll presidency is a big conference table with pitchers of beer for all.
Real debating!
March 31, 2008 2:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perhaps we can stick with Bitter for a title. Bitterness stems from an incomplete acceptance of the changing times. Life is a river.
Over time bitterness can get worse and solidify, or it can be used as a point to grow from. Encouragement is the ideal salve.
March 31, 2008 2:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
LATE UPDATE: In an desperate gambit to take back the lead, gotalife has changed it's avatar. The new avatar features a woman holding a sign that says "God Damn America". Noted troll expert, Dr. B.G. Gruff, believes that the change will pay off:
dembillc has no avatar, relying instead on eloquence and repetition to win over voters, but this latest move by gotalife may force its hand. Developing...
March 31, 2008 2:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
The "B. G. Gruff" allusion clarifies something that had been bothering me deeply throughout this whole thread.
Trolls . . . goats . . . trolls . . . goats . . . I knew they had *something* to do with each other.
March 31, 2008 6:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Trolls . . . goats . . . trolls . . . goats . . . I knew they had *something* to do with each other.
Well, that explains goatlife's handle.......what? Oh. Never mind.
March 31, 2008 1:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Genghis, can you clarify the purpose for said beer-drinking meet-up? By definition, I'd prefer not to have a beer with any trolls. But if we have to, then it would be for either a) entertainment value, or b) to spend the time using the techniques of re-education to de-trollify them. Oh, and getting them to see the wisdom of Obama would be nice, too. So, with all that, I'd pick Louisville... s/he's the most fun of the bunch and strikes me as impressionable enough to turn for Obama if confronted over a beer.
March 31, 2008 2:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
gman, you're taking the contest way too literally
March 31, 2008 11:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
But, but, but... if we can't get such a simple question resolved how are ever going to figure out where we're all going to meet for a beer??
March 31, 2008 1:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
How often is this award given? It is my personal goal to win next time. I will do anything to win.
But one thing some of you aren't taking into account is how much fun the particular individual would be to have a beer with? Sure, it's one thing to be a troll. And it's even better if that troll is so obtuse in their trollishness.
But it's another thing altogether to be a troll worth having a beer with.
I am not that great (yet) at the first two. But I figure that's something I can learn. I just signed up for a University of Phoenix online course in Trolling, with an emphasis in political blog trolling.
But the third part I assure you I have down! I would be GREAT To have a beer with!
I will:
* Laugh at your jokes
* Agree with you whole heartedly, but not right away. At first I will disagree, but after your convincing arguements, I will be dumbfounded by your eloquence, and speechless.
* I will make an effort like I am willing to buy my own beer, but give in to your generosity.
* I will do what it takes to hook you up with that guy/girl/troll at the end of the bar who keeps glancing your way.
* When you are sloshed, I will make sure you don't take off your shirt while you karaoke INXS "I need you tonight." I will do my best to prevent people from taking cell phone photos and will try to convnice them not to post those pictures to your blog.
So, keep an Eye out for BloodyIsland troll posts starting NOW! I promise the best trolling for your beer!
March 31, 2008 6:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
You get my vote. I particularly appreciate the willingness to be persuaded by my convincing arguments. But if you could just stop me from doing karaoke *altogether,* that might be even better.
March 31, 2008 6:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
That will cost extra. If your photo/icon is any indication, I bet you do a mean Michael Hutchins impersonation.
If you throw in a cup of queso dip, I'll *probably* stop you from doing karaoke.
If you make it a bowl of queso, I can arrange for you and the hottie at the end of the bar to do a duet of Love Shack.
March 31, 2008 7:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I knew if I drank enough of this blue stuff, I'd start seeing Romulans.
"BloodyIsland" has the same numeric value as "Romulan.""
Oh.. my head.... and it's MONDAY! ohmygosh!
March 31, 2008 7:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Look, Trolling is one thing. Making star trek references is another. I charge extra for that.
March 31, 2008 7:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Look. If you can post here a latest video of Hillary going all nukular and kitchen-sinky over Bill, I will gladly paypal a buck and twenty three + tips.
March 31, 2008 9:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
I love Akbar...or Jeff.
March 31, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another Nine-
1. Obama claimed credit for nuclear leak legislation that never passed.
2. Obama misspoke about his being conceived because of Selma.
3. Sen. Obama took too much credit for his community organizing efforts.
4. Obama's assertion that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing 'strains credulity.' "
5. Obama was forced to revise his assertion that lobbyists 'won't work in my White House.'
6. 'Selective, embellished and out-of-context quotes from newspapers pump up Obama's health plan.'
7. Sen. Obama said 'I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage,' but Obama health care legislation merely set up a task force.
8. 'Obama…seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he made' on ethics reform.
9. Obama drastically overstated Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance.
March 31, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Perfect acceptance speech. Well done.
March 31, 2008 11:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
And this :
http://www.pr-inside.com/washington-post-backs-andy-martin-on-r509563.htm
March 31, 2008 12:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama campaign Stealing Delegates-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nROKBU_KlZw
March 31, 2008 10:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
Winners don't Yap!
http://youtube.com/view_play_list?p=719C948584EACEEB
March 31, 2008 10:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't mess with Hill,
Or Bill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXsTXURIvlw&eurl
March 31, 2008 10:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
And with no further adu, we have the WINNER!!!!
Great post glad to see the tireless blogging pay off with some spotters on those active participants in the process.
You know without this commentary I wouldn't have survived this far into the camapaign without heavy drinking and some sleep, but the laughs keep coming and I keep posting!
March 31, 2008 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Am I the only one who misread dembillc as dembilic?
I apologize to dembillc, it really is my monitor's fault.
March 31, 2008 11:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
No Problem. SCMaddam keep whoring for Obama.
March 31, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
touche. ;)
March 31, 2008 4:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's funny you should mention that, because I keep reading "gotalife" as "goatlife".
March 31, 2008 12:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I thought it was dembicilic.
March 31, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bravo, dembillc! A tour de force. Now that is a troll who knows how to close.
March 31, 2008 11:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes folks, supporting a Dem on a Dem blog is called a troll. Unless you support Obama.
Hilarious.
Sorry I had to change my avatar because a Obama supporter hacked it and wrote " My BFF is Taylor Marsh"
God bless America!
March 31, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Aw, crap. What a bummer, gotalife.
Maybe we can find you another cool Scalia avatar. I'll start looking....
March 31, 2008 4:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
So, do we know yet? For whom the Beer Trolls?
March 31, 2008 12:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It trolls for thee.
March 31, 2008 1:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I looked it up, according to the USDA there are only about 1300 "goatherders" of any size, i.e ranchers whose stock are predominantly goats in the US and none of them are in KY. Unless Louisville1975 is a transplant it's highly unlikely he, his father or grandfather were goatherders. Having done an exhaustive DNA study though I have discovered that he can trace his lineage to one of the shepherds in the bible. Interestingly enough he shares this ancestor with not only Barack Obama, but Hillary Clinton, Don Knotts and Eldridge Cleaver too.
Disclaimer: None of the above is true.
March 31, 2008 12:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Interestingly enough Obama is a Muslim planted years ago to destroy America by Bin Laden's mentor.
Disclaimer: None of the above is true, (as far as I know).
March 31, 2008 1:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
You already won the award, so you you are now guilty of redundant trolling. You and Hillary just do not know when your times have expired.
March 31, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Posted by dembillc:
"Interestingly enough Obama is a Muslim planted years ago to destroy America by Bin Laden's mentor.
Disclaimer: None of the above is true, (as far as I know).
I think that post may actually disqualify dembillc from receiving its award. It displays both humor and irony. Genghis, billysumday, who constitutes the credentials committee?
April 1, 2008 1:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
March 31, 2008 1:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
Proof of what a scumbag Obama is for throwing his grandmother under the Bus?
Most of Dunham's close friends who knew her best are now dead, Soetoro-Ng said. But several current and former Bank of Hawaii executives — some of whom were mentored by Dunham and knew her after she retired — said they were stunned by Obama's comments about his grandmother.
"I was real surprised that he indicated that," said Dennis Ching, who was a 23-year-old management trainee under Dunham beginning in 1966. "I never heard her say anything like that. I never heard her say anything negative about anything. And she never swore."
Obama scored political points with his Race speech, to bad he was badmouthing his Grandmother to spin his relationship with Rev Wright. And you wonder why I think he is a bad candidate.
March 31, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Nice one King Troll.
You just accepted that some trainee saying that he never heard her say something is proof enough for you. Isn't that what Senator Obama said about Rev. Wright. Typical Arse Troll that you are, you are trying to have it both ways.
March 31, 2008 2:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
He probably lied about his grandmother too.
The Clintons had Shuster suspended for attacking their daughter.
You are correct, attacking his grandmother to praise his radical pastor is troll worthy.
I think Obama is "Troll You'd Most Like to Have a Beer With" award so I can tell him how pathetic that was and stop playing the race card.
March 31, 2008 3:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
When it's 3am, do you know where the goats are?
March 31, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just like a typical Obama supporter, you called the race before all votes are in to alienate millions of bloggers.
Let all bloggers vote and let all bloggers votes count.
Then let "idiotic" decide. He is a superblogger.
March 31, 2008 2:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are such a slapdick, but I love you.
March 31, 2008 5:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
After another one of my exhaustive studies I've discovered that most of Obama's grandmother's friends died of heart disease that can be directly attributed to the searing racism they held in their hearts that they were never able to admit in water cooler conversations to co-workers 30 years their junior. Oh if only we all could be as straightforward as Lou Dobbs and Pat Buchanan! Their courage to remain ignorant is an example to us all. They don't keep their racism to themselves, they put it out there on the teevee for us all to see. I'm sure their cardiovascular systems are as sound as the dollar.
Disclaimer: There isn't an ounce of truth in this post either.
March 31, 2008 3:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh no!!! Gotalife, what happened to your most awesome avatar??? Bring it back! Bring it back!
Dang. Now I might have to rescind my vote for you.
March 31, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
I liked his new avatar at first, but it loses points because it's illegible.
March 31, 2008 4:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR RaeK!
March 31, 2008 5:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why do trolls have no sense of humor or irony?
March 31, 2008 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's part of the union contract.
March 31, 2008 6:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not even an honorable mention for our own lovable idiotic? Idiotic doesn't waste our time with boring, wordy and silly talking points. Idiotic is a minimalist.
March 31, 2008 7:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
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