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Dembillc wins the "Troll You'd Most Like to Have a Beer With" award
TPM reader, dembillc, who goes by the name de guerre of Bill C, has shocked TPM pundits and insiders by winning the prized Troll You'd Most Like to Have a Beer With award. After posting a comment listing 63 (yes, 63) alleged lies by Barack Obama, billysumday, who heads the TYMLTHABW committee was moved to remark, "You sound like a lot of fun. We should hang out sometime." Dembillc was so excited by this endorsement that it proceeded to post the same list of 63 lies again in the same thread.
But previous frontrunner, gotalife, refuses to bow out. In a TPM interview gotalife vowed to continue the race:
Yes, dembillc, is eloquent, but it has no experience. ItBoth trolls have aggressively sought the endorsement of former candidate, Marginal Player, who dropped out several weeks ago. Marginal Player has so far refused to endorse. Trolls close to Marginal tells us that it intends to play the role of elder statestroll in order to end the race before convention. A bitter race might threaten the chances TPM's nominee the Annual Troll Games in November.
only joined the site in March. I've been fighting the good fight on
TPM since late February. If you choose me to have a beer with,
I'll be ready to smear on beer 1. dembillc can wait its g-ddamn turn.
Saddle up folks, this one is going all the way to convention.
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Comments (189)
dembillc hasn't yet passed the Keg-Stander in Chief threshold which is somewhere in the range of 10 seconds plus. Rumor has it, with consistent training, gotalife may declare that said threshold has been passed sometime in August.
March 30, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd also like to have a beer with that guy who called Obama a "condescending prick" simply because Obama stated that he'd like to see Clinton continue her campaign.
A person like that just seems like a chill, roll w/the punches, easy-going kind of guy.
Me: You seem cool, wanna grab a beer?
Them: Get your head out of your ass, Obama will destroy our country!!
Me, backing away slowly: Mmmmmmmkaaaay.
March 30, 2008 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're the head of the committee. Add it to the list.
PS Thanks for the inspiration
March 30, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
LOL
March 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Has the committee given due consideration to Lalo and Louisville1975?
I just want to make sure that all the people's voices are heard and all the votes are actually counted...
March 30, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
oh and don't forget that ever lovable CR1992
March 30, 2008 11:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well inasmuch as I just want to pour a beer on gotalife, I guess that would be a vote against him, in favor of dembillc, so I think I agree.
March 30, 2008 5:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
He deserved the victory but please use my actual words.
His Obama lies list is a classic but we need to add this and is ongoing.
"Addressing civil rights activists in Selma, Ala., a year ago, Sen. Barack Obama traced his "very existence" to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother. Key details are either untrue or grossly oversimplified."
It is hilarious to be called a troll for supporting a Dem on a Dem blog.
Anyhoo, congrats to dembillc and keep up the great work.
God bless America!
March 30, 2008 5:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well said! You just got my vote.
March 30, 2008 5:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
(Why am I responding to this?)
Obama "misspoke." The program that brought Obama's father to America was not funded by Kennedy originally. Obama's father came to America in 1959. Kennedy funded that program in 1960.
So technically you are correct in that Kennedy did not literally pay for Obama's father's plane flight. But if we're looking at the spirit of the law instead of the letter of the law, I'd say it's pretty much the same thing. Also, Obama's campaign has acknowledged this mistake.
Buddy, ya need a beer.
March 30, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Okay, now I'm torn-- does this place have PBR? Or is that the next place?
March 30, 2008 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obviously you'd have to ask Sinbad.
March 30, 2008 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheap shots and beer, right here. Why go anywhere else?
:)
March 30, 2008 6:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
Oh, the shots here are cheap alright. I'm presently buzzing from the rounds that Desidero just bought me.
March 30, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Cheap buzz? Ugh.
A (good, expensive) beer and a couple of aspirins ought to clear that up. .
What I want to know is Genghis paying? I noticed when the topic came up he skedaddled....
March 30, 2008 7:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course the guy who brings up having a few cold ones is nowhere to be found when the tab shows up. Typical! :)
March 30, 2008 7:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
This Romulan Ale is pricey stuff.
{hic}
March 30, 2008 8:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but it's that extra kick you're paying for.
March 30, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually it's the Rohypnol that does it, not the cheap ale. Figured DF wouldn't mind, it being the Southern Comfort of the jet-set crowd.
March 31, 2008 4:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's taking animosity to ridiculous heights.
Totally unnecessary.
March 31, 2008 6:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
You know, sometimes the thing's Desidero writes are so ironic that I wonder if it's intentional. Of course, the irony here is that this cheap shot was in response to me accusing her of taking cheap shots. Then again, maybe it's not actually ironic since it's more or less what I've come to expect.
March 31, 2008 6:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm part of the jet set crowd?
Woo hoo!
March 31, 2008 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Next place.
March 30, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
*sneeeeeeerk*
Ah, Sinbad.
March 30, 2008 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
For PBR, I'd say here AND the next place!
Or Hamm's.
March 31, 2008 12:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
But this place has quarter wings.
March 31, 2008 9:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pew! pew! pew!
March 31, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did Obama misspeak about his father being a goat herder when he got the grant to come to the US, or was that just some misunderstanding fan of his?
(Barack Sr. was a clerk in Nairobi for about 5 years before leaving for the US if the chronology his first wife tells is correct).
March 30, 2008 6:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Every time I've ever heard him say it, he claims that his father worked as a clerk for the British.
It was his grandfather that he claims was a goat herder.
March 30, 2008 7:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hmm.. I'm glad you brought this up because, no matter how it turns out, it's incredibly relevant and for this reason is an issue at the forefront of everyone's mind.
March 30, 2008 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Exactly. I've gotten excited about electing a guy whose dad was a goatherder. Historic step for America. If in October it turns out his dad was herding cattle, or, jeesus christ, just growing taro or something -- you are going to be looking at one disappointed voter. Probably switch my vote to Nader.
March 30, 2008 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hahaha!! Goatherders of the world, unite!
March 30, 2008 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well then why did we have to hear so much about "Dreams of My Father"? So now his childhood and extended African/Indonesian connections are irrelevant, but back when Marc Andreessen met with him, all this stuff gave Obama his extended world view that will make our enemies love us.
This is the crap in the Obama campaign that drives me crazy. It's important as long as Obama's team is talking about it, just no one else talk about it or they're playing petty politics or some kind of identity card.
March 31, 2008 1:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
I don't think anyone would dispute that you have been driven crazy.
March 31, 2008 6:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
Let me tell a story that I've told many time:
At one time my grandfather was the superintendent of schools. However, he had a drinking problem and after a while he was "demoted" to being principal of a school. (Insane, right?) The drinking problem continued, and he was then "demoted" to being a teacher. Further insanity.
So, what's the purpose of me telling this tale now? Well, it turns out that it's not true. It was something I'd been told by one of my aunts or uncles, and it was such a good story that I repeated it often.
I never had a chance to know my grandfather who died before I was born due to cirrhosis of the liver (the drinking problem part was true). Similarly, Obama wasn't there when his father left Africa to come to America, so I think it's understandable if he gets a few of the details wrong. Just like I think it's understandable that Hillary had thought for a while that she was named after Sir Hillary. Stories get told in families that sometimes aren't exactly true.
March 30, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Just like after telling the Tuzla story over and over eventually she was ducking and running for cover even though her own story was different in the book she wrote five years ago.
March 30, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ben, telling stories about your alleged Alchoholic Grandfather for laughs reminds me of Obama telling stories about his alleged Racist Grandmother to spin his invlovement with Rev Wright. Really sad.
March 31, 2008 11:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I'm disturbed that you thought the story was funny, dembillc.
Of course, since you totally missed the point of both my story and Obama's speech, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Seriously, though, what in the world did you find funny about it? That he was an alcoholic?
On the basis of this, I'd like to request the committee to consider revoking your "most like to have a beer with" status. I'm not usually so direct, but you disgust me.
March 31, 2008 1:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, this was pretty cold. I thought your story was a very good one.
March 31, 2008 2:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks.
I re-read what I posted, and I still have no idea where he got his "laughs" from.
March 31, 2008 3:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's likely that it was simply the obvious way to shoehorn your story into a dig against Obama.
March 31, 2008 6:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama misspoke that Kennedy supported the program, they supported the second airlift.
That doesn't change the fact that the FIRST program DID help Obama's father.
He got the essence right, the details off just a tad.
He must be given the benefit of the doubt since he was busy dodging sniper fire while passing NAFTA, SCHIP and FMLA all at the same time when he gave that answer...
March 30, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Or Obama could be a born liar.
March 31, 2008 11:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
No, you are called a troll for posting off-topic, excessive, inflammatory, racially troubling, highly rude statements without remorse or even, it seems, self-awareness. You never participate in any conversations, just repeat talking points and lies in the most insulting way possible, trying to derail conversations with your own rhetoric.
March 30, 2008 7:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotalife, it is fun to attempt to argue for Hillary on a Obama Blog. I will have to give TPM credit for letting my voice be heard and not just shutting me off like Huffpost or DailyKos, and I actually am impressed that some Obama folks have a sense of humor, like the guy who started this post. I figure that the Reason Obamaites rule the blogs is that they are mostly Limosine Liberals who have trust funds and don't work or they are kids who do not work yet. Since I work from home, and am my own boss, and am horrified by the Clinton bashing going on in this campaign I try to chip away at the ignorant hoodwinked Obama supporters. I really want tro know what is it these trolls did not like about the Clinton years? Was it the Peace or the Prosperity?
March 31, 2008 10:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, I have been banned at Daily Obama and censored at the obama post. No difference from dissent of the dittoheads at the lgf. Charles let me post there for months before he had enough of my truth and reality.
When Clinton wins, we will take over these so called left wing progressive blogs.
March 31, 2008 11:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
When Hillary wins we should just scrap most Obama sites altogether and promote Talkleft and Taylor Marsh to the top of the heap.
March 31, 2008 11:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
Now this is funny. You all should start a support group.
March 31, 2008 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hilarious. Or dare I say: Hillyarious.
March 30, 2008 5:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
Did someone say let's go out for a beer?
I'm game. You buying?
I'll drink you all under the table.
(heh.)
March 30, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ah...gotalife is running on the old 35 Minutes of Experience platform.
March 30, 2008 5:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know if he intended it or not, but Obama did get a nice dig in at Hillary with the "she should run as long as she wants" comment, since it seems to suggest that the only criterion to her continuing to run is whether or not she wants to, not whether she's a viable candidate or has a chance of winning.
And isn't that what her campaign has come to?
Meanwhile, this troll thread is hilarious!
March 30, 2008 5:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Addressing civil rights activists in Selma, Ala., a year ago, Sen. Barack Obama traced his "very existence" to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother. Key details are either untrue or grossly oversimplified."
This may be the best one yet, because you know, gotalife, that Teddy endorsed Obama. I suspect this one will be exploded forthwith.
LOL!
March 30, 2008 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think this one is my favorite.
"30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially."
March 30, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
At the time Obama made the comment, I assumed he was talking about the generosity of the Kennedys either as public servants (and thus the scholarship was part of a foreign aid program) or as philanthropists through a family foundation or something.
Seems like it'll be one or t'other, and the Hillary supporters will be caught, once again, with their desperation and dishonesty showing.
March 30, 2008 6:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Being from Mass. I must say how impressive that it is for Obama that the woman killer Teddy Kennedy, leave Mary Joe in the car to die and save myself, came out for him.
March 31, 2008 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not even an original list.
A simple google search shows the same thing posted in other places. link
March 30, 2008 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Marginal Player has not conceded this race! He is the Mike Gravel of trolls! Or has Gravel dropped out? I can't remember...
March 30, 2008 6:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's going Libertarian on us.
March 30, 2008 7:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Not to worry Des. Marginal Player has reappeared. It looks like he has abandoned the cafe for just the headlines on TPM frontpage.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/hillary_raising_money_off_call.php
March 31, 2008 3:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Or has Gravel dropped out? I can't remember...
I think Gravelmentum has been halted.
March 30, 2008 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Confession: Gravel still sends me weekly emails. I think there was a "Please Buy Mike A Sandwich" day, recently. Note: no, I never sent him money. Note: yes, I might consider buying him a sandwich, but how can I be sure he won't just blow it on booze?
March 30, 2008 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's true that he might, but let's be honest: Doesn't the guy probably deserve a drink?
March 30, 2008 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
gotalife is intellegent and I love the avatar. I'm sticking with gotalife.
One troll that has been left out is Louisville1975. Maybe it's because that one's not intelligent. And a true asshole. I definitely would not want to have a beer with that one.
Hey, Genghis--nice job! :-)
March 30, 2008 6:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
I dunno.
There's been some posts where he's been quite reasonable.
I think dembillc is the most unreasonable, most virulent.
We all get passionate and say things we'd probably take back if we were talking to one another in person.
Dembillc is the only one I've read (PrObama or Pro-Clinton) that has never ever sought to see the other side of the discussion at least once.
I respect gotalife because he's said he'd vote whoever wins Dem primary, he just STRONGLY prefers Clinton. Nothing wrong with that (other than the Right-wing talking points from time to time).
March 30, 2008 7:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Lalo is feeling totally left out about now.
March 30, 2008 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, I've got to defend Louisville too. I've called him a troll myself, but I was out of line.
March 30, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Louisville1975 isn't a troll, he's a Cleveland Browns fan. That's an entirely different species, one that I believe has yet to be properly classified.
March 30, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hey now... I'm a Brownie for Obama. Don't go lumping us together like we're batter or something. Okay - Okay... I'll admit we're a different breed.
March 31, 2008 1:00 AM | Reply | Permalink
Numbers 2 thru 9 are my favs. Couldn’t stop laughing.
Before you anoint one or the other of said trolls as the winner of the "Troll You'd Most Like to Have a Beer With" award, I think there should be some way of defining who won the CIC (Creeptoids in Caca) test.
March 30, 2008 6:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Why no love for Lalo35adm? Somehow I think Lalo's incoherent mumblings or posting of blind links might make beer taste even better.
For real.
March 30, 2008 6:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Aw, don't be so harsh with Lalo. I have a soft spot for him, although his posts often do seem emotionally over-wrought. I don't think Lalo's a troll--just a bruised Hillary supporter.
March 30, 2008 7:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree; there's something lost and forlorn hidden deep within his vicious diatribes.
March 31, 2008 12:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
I vote Lalo. As tireless as he/she is nonsensical. Sure, gotalife has a good presentation, but Lalo comes up with something original every time. When compared to Lalo, gotalife's trolling is awfully textbook and strikes me as being rather pedestrian.
March 30, 2008 7:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with you, though I am torn by the random effect that is provided by Louisville.
Ya just never know which one you will get.
March 31, 2008 1:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
Every time I've ever heard him say it, he claims that his father worked as a clerk for the British.
It was his grandfather that he claims was a goat herder.
March 30, 2008 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
I've *never* heard Lalo claim either of those things. Please, if you're going to attack the poor guy, do it with some evidence -- talk about the quality of his posts -- not these random assertions about his father being a goatherder.
March 31, 2008 6:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
It's Lalo or Louisville for me...
I know people are probably wondering how anyone who is paying attention could still be undecided this far along into the process, but I would just remind them that this is a closely contested race, and none of the candidates are all that far apart on the issues.
March 30, 2008 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ew. Louisville? Really? Well, it might be fun to get him really drunk and then dare him to do a bunch of stupid and humiliating things in public. Okay, maybe it would be fun to have a few beers with Louisville.
March 30, 2008 7:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
His grandfather was a goatherder, but I've heard him say that his father grew up herding goats in Kenya - i.e. in his formative years before he went away to college.
March 30, 2008 9:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, no. Now you're getting Barack confused with Louisville 1975. It's *Barack* whose grandfather herded goats.
March 31, 2008 6:09 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hechuva job, gotalife!
March 30, 2008 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where is Marginal? I suspect foul play, or maybe just foul attitude.
March 30, 2008 7:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Very funny thread. Thanks to all the jokesters for the many laughs.
March 30, 2008 8:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
I need will need to elevate my level of vitriol to get in the running!
March 30, 2008 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
You will need to proof read before posting as well. Happens to me all the time : )
March 30, 2008 8:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
thats a low blow
March 30, 2008 8:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
But I am willing to overlook it as I am running for office and I will have to gently walk along the divide.
March 30, 2008 9:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ha!
March 30, 2008 9:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
You might never make it...
March 30, 2008 9:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I wish that I could nominate you, but you proved to be a little too willing to engage sincerely during our last encounter. If you're really interested in upping your game you could always take a cue from Lalo: Take some hyperbole, sprinkle with a little Latin, roll it into a ball, chuck it and then run for the hills.
March 30, 2008 10:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
I need to learn from Lalo.
March 30, 2008 10:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
ROTFLMAO - Funniest thing I've read here yet. This Buds for you Ghengis - DF too.
March 30, 2008 8:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dembillc hasn't even seen fit to troll on a post celebrating him, so I don't know ...
March 30, 2008 8:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, I cannot afford to blog 24/7 like Obama supporters who are either Limosine Liberal trustfunders who don't work because they don't have to, or college kids for Obama who don't work yet, or dare I say, unemployed Black voters. Most Clinton supporters are hardworking Blue collar type Reagon democrats who work to hard to blog all day.
March 31, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is there sniper fire while this beer drinking is going on? Sniper fire would make it much more exciting.
Also, what kind of beer? If it's Obama beer, I think it would be Guinness - dark and delicious with a good head. As for Hillary beer? I'd have to guess Coors Lite.
March 30, 2008 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Its in everyones interest to be drinking Yuengling.
March 30, 2008 9:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hah! Well played.
March 30, 2008 10:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yuengling is great stuff, I prefer the Black and Tan the most, it is so much better than the Coors Lite which I find to be tasteless yet still bitter and lacking any robust substance. ; )
March 30, 2008 10:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
or Rolling Rock
March 30, 2008 10:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is that what they deliver to offices? Filtered water or something?
March 31, 2008 1:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
I wish I could handle Guiness but I can't. I'm a wuss.
I like Fat Tire. Or a good ol' frosty, cold Lone Star.
March 31, 2008 1:32 AM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry. Lone Star's out. You had your primary already. Turns out Rolling Stone is out too. It's brewed in Newark now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Rock
Here's appropriate photo for you all: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/us/politics/29penn.html?em&ex=1206936000&en=88c08c19d481ba5d&ei=5087%0A
March 31, 2008 2:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just as soon as I saw that photo yesterday and seeing it was at a pub in Latrobe I had to wonder if he was going to have a word or two with A-B about moving the Rolling Rock production back to Latrobe. It hasn't been the same since they bought the brand and stole much of that town's economic blood.
the bastards...
Hope he was enjoying a Yingling in spite.
March 31, 2008 6:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
WHAT?!
As an Obama supporter and a proponent of transparency in beer advertising, I reject and denounce Rolling Rock.
March 31, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink