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Convention Math: Remember the UADs!

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A reader's comment on my last post sent me back to the ever-exciting topic of Unpledged Add-On Delegates (UADs). Those who have suffered through my previous explorations of the subject will recall that UADs are the forgotten superdelegates - the 76 bonus delegates awarded to the states. It turns out that they were dreamt up by Tad Devine in 1988, as a means of rectifying Jesse Jackson's gripe that he was winning states but only splitting their delegates. The original idea was that UADs would be awarded in each state as an extra bonus to the winner of the popular vote. Somewhere along the way, however, UAD allocation was largely divorced from the popular vote. Today, states follow a wide variety of methods for awarding their UADs (see my previous posts for more).

So who cares? Well, I do. And I hope you will, as well. But not, as best I can tell, the national media. The delegate calculators out there seem blissfully unaware of the UADs, lumping them in with the other superdelegates as if they're just sitting on the fence. Most projections I've seen do the same. This is problematic. To the best of my knowledge, only two UADs have been selected thus far, and so they're the only ones being included in most counts of superdelegates. But it's fallacious to think that the UADs will choose between the two candidates; rather, the UADs will all be chosen based on their public backing for one or the other. They don't fall into the pool of undecided superdelegates, and claiming they do makes that pool seem larger and more influential than it is - and, as it happens, makes a Clinton comeback seem plausible, when it's not. 
   
Witness last week's fight over UADs in Alabama, one of the states in which the state executive committee makes the decision. Each campaign selected a single, loyal backer, and ran him as their candidate. Obama controlled six more votes than Hillary, and so his man won the slot. There was no sense in which this delegate was unpledged; in fact, he was vetted at least as carefully as any of the pledged delegates on Obama's slate. We're going to see the same in every state that awards UADs. Given that some of these will be awarded by a vote of a body whose composition is already a matter of public record - a state convention, the members of the DNConvention delegation - we can actually be as certain of these UADs votes as of those of their pledged peers, even if we don't yet know their names.

Here's a quick rundown of UADs in states that have already voted:      

           Clinton       Obama    Undetermined

IA:            0                0                  1
NH:          0                0                  1
NV:          1                0                  0
SC:           0                0                  1
AL:           0                1                  0
AK:          0                 1                 0
AR:          1                 0                 0
AZ:           0                 0                 1
CA:          5                 0                 0
CO:          0                 1                 0
CT:          0                  0                 1
DE:          0                 1                 0
GA:          0                 0                 2
ID:           0                 1                 0
IL:            0                 3                 0
KS:          0                  1                 0
MA:         0                 0                 2
MN:        0                  2                 0
MO:        0                  0                 2
ND:         0                  0                 1
NM:        0                  0                 1
NJ:          0                  0                 2
NY:          0                  0                 4
OK:         0                  0                 1
TN:          0                  0                 2
UT:          0                  1                 0
WA:         0                  2                 0
NE:          0                  1                 0
LA:          0                  0                 1
ME:         0                  1                 0
DC:          0                  1                1
MD:        0                   0                2
VA:          0                  2                 0
HI:           0                  0                 1
WI:          0                  0                 2
OH:         0                   0                2
RI:           0                  0                 1
TX:          0                  3                 0
VT:          0                  1                 0

TOTAL:   7                23               32

So the states that have already held their initial contests award 62 of the 76 superdelegates. About half of those delegates have been or will be selected by bodies whose allegiances are already known, allowing us to predict that Obama will take 23 UADs to Hillary's 7. Obama's substantial lead in the category is based on two factors - he's won many more states, and more of the states he's won use caucuses or other processes that allow us to predict the selection of UADs.

Now, there are good reasons not to attempt to predict how the remaining UADs will be awarded. The Alabama fight demonstrates that the Clinton campaign isn't about to cede UAD slots even in states it lost, and if it's going to fight, it seems likely Obama's camp will, too. In some states, that's unlikely to matter. It seems reasonable to suppose that all 4 New York UADs will go to Hillary. But do Massachusetts' senators and governor have enough clout on the state committee to secure both of that state's UADs for Obama? Perhaps. And will Hillary's institutional support in states like Hawaii bring her a UAD where it failed to deliver a caucus? Could be. These things bear watching.

Nevertheless, it seemed a worthwhile exercise to award all 62 of these UADs by giving the remaining 32 to the candidates who won their respective states. If you do that, Obama wins them 38-24. That suggests what a headache the UADs are likely to become for the Clinton campaign if she stays in the race. As things stand, they widen Obama's lead by 16 delegates; and if things play out along the most likely lines, that lead would still stand at 14. (The remaining contests are likely to have about as much impact on the margins in the UAD battle as on those of the rest of the delegate tally - which is to say, little or none.) To put that in perspective, Clinton leads the overall superdelegate tally this morning, 241-198. Add in the UADs whose commitment have been determined, and that shrinks to 248-221. Even if she enjoys some success at grabbing UADs from states that Obama has won, she faces an uphill battle - almost all of Obama's likely UADs are already locked down, and almost all of Hillary's have yet to be determined. And to offset each UAD in that Obama lead, Hillary needs to win another pledged delegate or superdelegate to her cause.

So add this to the long (and lengthening) list of reasons why the numbers just don't add up for a Clinton nomination. And every time you see a tally of the 794 superdelegates, look closely to see how it treats the 76 UADs. These procedural details matter more than most people think - by mastering them, the Obama campaign has built a clear lead despite the remarkably even split between the campaigns at the polls.

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Comments (31)

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You put a tremendous amount of work in this post.

Do you think BHO '50-delegate' story is attributable to this, in part? 30ish UADs plus 20ish SD's.

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It's possible. But there's no way to roll out the UADs until they're formally selected, and I don't think Browkaw was suggesting that they'd lined up just 20 endorsers, and were going to bring them to a press conference and then unveil a large chart and deliver a 20-minute symposium on the UAD selection process to convince the media they actually have 50.

I have no idea where that report originated. But if I had to guess, I'd suggest that it may have come from a sort of whisper-down-the-lane misunderstanding. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if some of Obama's whips had been talking to superdelegates in the run-up to March 4, and asking them if they'd be willing to be part of a large bloc of superdelegates (say, 50 or so) who would come together to force an end to the race. The tricky thing about that sort of gambit is that most fence-sitters won't go for it unless a bunch of others also commit, so you've got to suggest to each of them that the others are already in place just to get them to consider the deal. I'd wager Obama has been hoarding some much smaller number of endorsements in the hope that he can build them up to a critical mass, and release them together. After March 4, the campaign probably concluded that any en banc endorsements are better postponed until after the pending wins in Mississippi and Wyoming, for maximum effect.

So I doubt there ever was a bloc of 50 - just a plan floated by the Obama campaign, and misunderstood by Browkaw. But again, that's just a guess.

Sound analysis- This assessment seems very plausible.

Apparently, it originated with Lacy Clay who re-iterated the same claim yesterday:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/03/race-over-by-weeks-end.php

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Welcome, readers of Marc Ambinder's blog at The Atlantic. Please chime in with your thoughts.

And special thanks to Marc for taking the time to respond to this unconventional take on the race.

As ever, dear FotW, your post is excellent. Thank you for running this math for us.

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More and more I am convinced that the current Clinton strategy, if you can call it that, is to just hang in there and hope for a deux ex machina to resolve the plot. If Obama stumbles badly in the months before the convention, or outside events intervene (Rezko) she will still be in the race to step in to the nomination.

Actually, that is the only way she would even be accepted as the nominee at this point, so it is all she's got to hang on to.

I say this as a Clinton supporter who is facing the facts.

You are a beacon of reason in a sea of unreasonableness.

is victory worth such a battle? Because ... There will be blood.

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more EXCELLENT NEWS!!! FOR HILLARY!!!!

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I had a question I hope someone here might be able to answer.

If the florida and Michigan delegates are seated, isn't the magic number pushed up from 2025?

Yes.

The magic number then becomes 2208:

Michigan = 156
Florida = 210
Total = 366, 366 / 2 = 183, 2025 + 183 = 2208.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks again Fly. I also have a suggestion for your next post (aka research project).

I'd like some sort of mathematical equation that demonstrates how "Big States" are the most important factor in a primary. I've tried this but the math is all screwed up and doesn't give me the results I wanted/expected.

Here's the equation that I'm stuck on:
1 delegate in Vermont = 1 delegate in Ohio

See now this doesn't make sense at all. We all know that Ohio is more important than Vermont and so a delegate from Ohio must have more worth in some way.

It's accepted truth now that an 11 delegate win in big state Ohio is much much better than a 13 delegate win in small state South Carolina. I just can't make the equation work for some reason.

Please help.

It's a "truth" only accepted by people who have no grasp of elementary math (this unfortunately appears to include a majority of Americans). One delegate is one delegate, larger states just get more of them. Of course winning 13 more delegates than the opponent in South Carolina is better than winning 11 delegates in Ohio.

Many people seem to be completely unable to get away from the winner-take-all mindset and realize that a win by a 20% spread in a small state is much more important than a 2% win in a big state in a proportional voting system.

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Hillary is not only attacking Obama, she's giving ammunition to the GOP for the General. That's the difference here.

Take a look at Huckabee. He ran on HIS record -- not by acting like a Democrat attacking McCain (which he could have). He was respectful of his PARTY' and it's VOTERS.

Hillary has been respectful to NOBODY.

She's not only helping to bring the DNC down by demanding to stay in (even though if the situation were reversed, Obama would have been PUSHED out by now), she's helping to ruin her husband's only Legacy he had with the Democratic Party.

Voters will HATE him and her after this is over, especially if we end up losing no matter WHO wins the nomination. They will Blame the Clintons.

Great post as usaual Fly, it helps to see a more academic approach when emotions are running so high.
Her claim she won the Big states has always seemed a little disrespectful of the other states she has lost. I mean doesn't she care about them? I mean a vote is a vote right, aren't both of these candidates competing for every vote as much as possible? But another thing that bugs me about her claim is that when you look at place like Ohio which she won, she lost Cleveland, Cincinnati and Columbus. Granted these are college cities with a high proportion of well-educated people but couldn't it be possible to say that yes she won Ohio but lost the center while winning in the mid-sized cities such as Akron, Toledo and Dayton. The rural areas went for her in large numbers as well but I am unsure if her victory in those areas could be tied in with voter's crossing party lines, not that there is anything neferious about that.

Very good point that deserves repeating, and remember:

Obama won Texas. It's the delegates that count. And the same thing happened in Texas: rural areas went for Clinton, major cities (except San Antonio, sniff) went to Obama.

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re: the '50' Superdelegate bloc first reported by Brokaw...

If true, do you think it's likely that the Obama campaign has asked them to spread their endoresments out across the next couple of weeks so that there's no appearance of any 'back-room' dealing going on? If so, very smart move (again, IF the initial story was correct).

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The delegates do indeed count, but the loser must see legitimacy in the process. While Obama may well come out of Texas with more delegates, it's hard (in a vacuum) to see that result as being "fair" when Hilliary got more votes in that state.

Obama has the overall numbers, and if he continues to do as well as he has, (likely) he will have more pledged delegates and very likely more popular votes when all is said and done. Rumor is that Michigan will authorize a "re-do" caucus soon, which favors him. As I noted in another post, he should offer to split the cost of a "re-do" vote in Florida--having raised 55M in February, the 10-12M split of a "re-do" is not a huge deal.

Such an offer seizes the moral high ground, and makes it almost impossible for Hilliary to decline. Even if he loses the vote in Florida, he still will win (nationwide) the popular vote and pledged delegate count. It becomes the end game.

I have harbored the thought/desire for the cadidates to chip in to pay for the re-vote. Both failed to speak up at the time the decision was made.

If your number is right, that is not that much money.

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Hillary may just be trying to press the 'electability' argument by winning the popular vote, which I think is why she wants to drag Florida and Michigan back into this. However, I don't believe that the popular vote is a fair measure of the voters preferences in these contests (nor is it the way the rules are set up, but don't dare suggest that to Hillary!); you can't add primary results + caucus results together - it's like adding apples and oranges...

Since a smaller number of voters participate in caucuses than they do in primaries, Obama's overwhelming victories in caucus states like Washington, Colorado and Minnesota added little to his overall popular vote. If you wanted to add the caucus and primary votes together, I'd think you'd have to adjust the results from the caucuses upward by some factor (2x? 3x?). Of course, none of the major "news" networks bother doing this, either... You have to lump them in with Huckabee and Hillary as the growing number of spinners that "didn't major in math" (or, even more likely, never took a math class in college)

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Great analysis, but I don't think its as cut and dried as you make it. Texas is a good example. Given how split the vote was, I think a 3-0 split for Obama is very unlikely. The Clinton campaign will scream loudly, and appropriately so, if Obama gets all 3 add-ons. - Matt from 2008 Democratic Convention Watch.

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Matt,

Thanks for dropping by - I'm a huge fan, and occasional correspondent.

Texas is a fantastic example. The UADs in the state are nominated by a committee, composed of representatives selected by the caucuses of each of the 31 senate districts and three members appointed by the permanent chair. Last I checked, Obama was leading in 21 of the senate districts, and Clinton in 10. So he'll have (at least) 21 of 34 votes on the committee that effectively chooses the UADs, and a majority on the floor of the convention that ratifies the choice.

But if I understand you correctly, you're questioning not the practical ability of Obama to win these three slots, but the political feasibility of that approach. I think there are two reasons to believe that the UADs are going to be winner-take-all, even in states that were closely split. The first is the Alabama precedent - if the Clinton campaign intended to respect the will of the primary voters, it wouldn't have contested the election of the UAD in Alabama. It did, and came close to winning - but in the process, lost the moral high ground. The second is the reason why the Clinton camp decided to fight in Alabama. On the whole, state-by-state battles for UADs will probably yield a slightly smaller Obama lead than a tacit truce that attempts to award them proportionately, or that gives them to the winner of the vote or caucus. That's because Clinton enjoys more support on state committees than she has at the polls. So I expect the Clinton camp to continue to press hard, and I don't expect Obama loyalists to back off from the fight.

You're right to note that this is, at best, informed speculation. But it's already playing out on the ground. We'll both be watching closely as more of these UADs are formally selected, but I think in this increasingly bitter race, there's every reason to believe that both candidates will take every delegate they can win, however loud the protests.

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It seems that there is no longer a moral high ground after the past week. Clinton has decided to throw the kitchen sink. And while Obama is not inclined to get into a slugfest, his toughness has been questioned. Methinks he'll take off the gloves and begin throwing first punches.

As for the UAD's, since they are selected out of the public eye, I'd expect a no holds barred campaign.

One question - Does the Total superdelegate number of 794 include the Michigan and Florida SD's or would they increase it to 800 some. Also same question re UAD number, and if not, what might UAD's be for each of the two states?

Thanks

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bzr:

The short answer is that none of my numbers currently include Michigan or Florida, because under the current rules their delegations will not be seated.

Actually, after last night's election results from IL-14, the total number of superdelegates is at 795. It's almost certain to change again before the convention, but it's a good enough approximation of the final tally that we needn't worry too much about that.

Florida and Michigan would have had a combined 54 superdelegates, and would raise the total to 849. In Florida, the 3 UADs are awarded by the Executive Committee of the State Party, and so would almost certainly have gone to Hillary irrespective of the outcome of the state's contest. In Michigan, they are likewise awarded by the state party's Central Committee, and are also likely to go for Hillary, although I haven't seen any good numbers on the split of the MI Central Committee. Should the current proposals for firehouse primaries or mail-in primaries come to fruition, it's likely that Hillary would gain a boost from the FL and MI UADs - yet another reason formy prediction, back on February 11, that "it may be this week; it may be next; it may not be until March. But sooner or later, the Clinton campaign is going to have to face the reality that the Michigan and Florida delegations aren't going to be seated, and that they can't win the convention without them. When it does, we'll see a dramatic shift in strategy. The Clintons will join the DNC in pressing for [new elections]."

Fly -

I appreciate the information. I'm a Michigan voter, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. Thanks agsain.

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Another fantastic post.

FlyOTW -

You should change your moniker to SuperFly...

You're an animal & one of the reasons I slog through all the crap to get to gems.

Please consider educating the MSM on this intricate, byzantine process. PLEASE???

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Clinton is in a rush to have "one more chance" in FL and MI. Since most States' caucuses and primaries are paid for by the citizens or party members in those states, why not restrict contributions to any re-vote in FL or MI. That is, only permit residents of either State to contribute to the cost of a re-vote. And, set some reasonable limit on contributions, say, $100 per individual or $200 per household. The alternative is to have the $10-mn "Lockheed Martin Primary", putting an eventual winner in the highly awkward position of owing his/her Presidency to one or a few enterprises. Phrased this way, I think Obama can make a clear case for either much cheaper caucuses or primaries that won't be scheduled until after PA, NC results are known. Then, fund them from modest contributors in-State.

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