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Chuck Hagel For Barack Obama? - Charlie Rose

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Did you see Charlie Rose’s interview of Senator Chuck Hagel (R) last night?

He seems to be very impressed with Senator Barack Obama. When asked by Charlie if he would endorse him, Hagel first said something like, “I don’t know….I might” Rose immediately said, “Do you realize what you just said?” Hagel quickly changed his comment to include that he would want to talk to John (McCain) first, then Obama to see where they were headed and then make a decision. It was only after Rose said, “And Senator Clinton too”, that Hagel said something like, yes, if she is the nominee of course.

When Charlie Rose pressed Hagel to tell him who he thought had the best skill to ‘Bring people together’in Washington, Hagel said, Barack Obama.

His whole interview seem to be saying the same thing that Obama’s been saying all during his own campaign, that now is the time to bring Americans together to get things done. This is a defining moment in our history.

I’m betting if Obama plays his card right, Chuck Hagel, a Republican, just might end up endorsing him for President.

This would be very good. Chuck opposed the war in Iraq also and he disagreed with the Bush administration on several of their foreign policy maneuvers.


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I didn't see the interview, but I have a lot of respect for Hagel and think an Obama-Hagel alliance of some sort would be a great development.

Obama/Hagel '08

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Hell no. We aren't going to get anywhere if we have a Republican VP, you don't see the Republicans cutting the difference and having Democrat VPs do you? No, we get Dick Cheney. We can bring the country together and work together without going to the center. No Republicans on the ticket, period.

Well, get used to republicans. Obama's already said one will be in the cabinet. And frankly, we shouldn't be basing our political strategy on the basis of what the republicans do.

I DONT want to see a democratic congress/administration treat the republicans the same way they treated us. We should be better than that. And...as far as I'm concerned, Obama/Hagel is 100X better than Obama/Clinton, if only because the top and bottom of the ticket should like and respect each other (see Kerry/Edwards 04)

I know people have gotten very entrenched in the partisan back-and-forth, but the truth is that it's not whether someone is a Democrat or a Republican that's really important. It's what's in their hearts.

Kidding. Seriously though, as long as they they have the right stances on the right issues, what's the problem? I realize that this means that we have to actually think critically about who they are and what they stand for instead of just letting our lizard brains react to which letter of the alphabet is next to their name, but there are some Republicans that have things to offer.

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No, I don't believe it should be Obama/Hagel. But Hagel's endorsement would help prove Obama's claim to have crossover appeal and skill.

I've thought for a long time that Hagel would be a great choice for an Obama vice president. A Republican running mate would be a very smart move in many ways, but Hagel would utterly neutralize McCain -- and he was supposedly going to run with Bloomberg in the #2 slot. So maybe...

I wanna give a shoutout for Jim Webb of Virginia. This guys a tough veteran, liberla on economic issues, good appeal to white men. He has some problems, sure (didn't he write a book about having sex with whores in Nam?), but I like his "credentials" and Southern appeal.

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Webb would be a great VP choice.

I imagine he's on the short list.

No wai. Imagine months of commercials replaying his 'thunder thighs' comments about Annapolis women on TV.....argh.

I don't get the feeling Webb's much in Obama's camp. He was noticeably absent during the Potomac primaries. It's been commented on.

Webb endorsed Hillary. Also, Webb voted for Telecom immunity.

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I've also harbored a secret Obama/Hagel fantasy. However, like most fantasies, it likely not grounded in reality. Nevertheless, Hagel's outspoken opposition to many Bush policies have warmed my heart. There is much I do not know about Hagel, but such a ticket choice would certainly add gravitas and send a clear message of "doing things differently". Any thoughts as to why this would be a bad idea?

I've also harbored a secret Obama/Hagel fantasy.

You're a kinky one. It sure would raise some headlines.

This is going straight to DVD.

I think you mean Blu-Ray.

Who else is there? Richardson? I think he's kind of non-VP material.
Maybe Edwards?
Maybe I'm thinking about this wrong. Obama should pick a woman as VP (NOT Hillary).
Trying to lure conservative men is probably the wrong strategy. Getting all of the women, including Hillary supporters, is big.
Who are the top women candidates for VP? Sebelius? Who else?


janet napolitano (AZ)

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I still like Sebelius, although (present administration excluded) the vice president doesn't have a whole lot of power, so sticking a Repubican there could help win the election without affecting policy much. I can't support Webb for VP after the telecom vote.

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Wow, did Webb vote for telecom immunity? Ouch. Well, I still think a strong voice on "Patriotism" would be important to the ticket.

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Yeah he was one of the surprise defectors. I agree that it would be nice to have someone who can somewhat offset the "war hero advantage" though. Wesley Clark?

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I like Clark for VP alot. Besides the credentials, he's a clinton friend, he's older, white...

It would be the most handsome ticket in history, that's for sure.

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I don't know, Taft/Sherman was one sexy team of executives....

Bring back the handlebar moustache!

Ooh! Or Obama/Feingold! Mmmmm....

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So Chuck Hagel is signing up for the great liberal progressive revolution as well?
-rated 36% by the NEA, indicating a mixed record on public education.
- Rated 0% by the HRC, indicating an anti-gay-rights stance.
Rated 11% by the NAACP, indicating an anti-affirmative-action stance.
-Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record.
-Rated 17% by the CAF, indicating opposition to energy independence.
-Rated 0% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes.
-Rated 100% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record.
-Voted YES on requiring photo ID to vote in federal elections.
-Rated A by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record. -Rated 12% by APHA, indicating a anti-public health voting record.
-Rated 8% by the AFL-CIO, indicating an anti-union voting record.
-Rated 0% by the AU, indicating opposition to church-state separation.
-Rated 22% by the ARA, indicating an anti-senior voting record. -Rated 0% by the CTJ, indicating opposition to progressive taxation.

probably not vp then. But looks like a perfect fit somewhere in the Obama administration. In contrast to the Cheny administration where merit counts for nothing compared to thoughtless loyalty to the king, a wider range of views within the court will be a welcome change.

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I agree. We have of late had a tendency to get the vapors over any 'Winger who criticizes the Iraq War. I don't want Hagel anywhere near domestic policy. I would have no problem with him at the Pentagon, however, or the VA.

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Hagel is more likely for Sec. of State of Defense Sec., but not VP. I see the VP as Mark Warner, Richardson after that very good endorsement speech, or maybe Bob Casey who could help in states like PA.

I think that Sebelius would bring a lot to the table. Intrade.com has the following as the frontrunners in Dem VP speculation:

Richardson - 12.0
Webb - 11.0
Clinton - 9.0
Obama - 8.0
Gore - 7.7
Warner - 5.0
Clark - 4.5

http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/

But she's SOOOOOO boring to listen to.

I could definitely go for Obama/Richardson and I'd have to agree that this ticket seems pretty likely.

I second that recommendation--Obama/Richardson is a great ticket.

My dream team, Obama, Kucinich, Dean, Sebelius, Hagel, Feingold, Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chaffee, Stiglitz, Volcker, Samantha Powers, a bi-partisan government with impeccable credentials and integrity.

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So Obama's public flirtation with that sort of hard right guy dosen't bother any of you progressives at all? Either Hagels's got it or wrong or you do, and it's probably you.

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I think it's time to end the partisan stuff and consider that there are people who believe different than you do, and have every right to that opinion, and that is not inherently less valuable (as much as it may seem so), only different. People not motivated by power, money, war, etc, people like Hagel, for instance, they should be honored and invited to the discussion about our future, not dismissed.

Maybe both we and he are looking at criteria that have nothing to do with the left right split. Have you considered that?

Hagel is a Republican and he's voted with his party too often to be fully acceptable to me. At the same time, he was one of the first among Congress (ahead of many Democrats and nearly all Republicans) to start criticizing Bush's foreign policy and tactics in the war on terror. And he's been good (in my opinion) on immigration, working with Ted Kennedy on the bill that would have granted so-called "amnesty" to illegals. While I don't agree with all his positions, I think he's earned respect for some of the things he's been willing to stand for against his party and the President. I'd be glad to see him work with Obama to try to bring moderate Republicans into the fold.

Curious, out of all of the Republicans in Washington, what exactly strikes you about Hagel as being "hard right"?

No, it doesn't. It's the same shit that we try to get through to you guys about hillary. The reason her heathcare plan went down in flames was because she didn't want to reach out and compromise over it. We don't need a "fighter" with the oval office in our hand and both houses of congress. We need someone willing to reach across the aisle.

I have great respect for Chuck Hagel, but don't anyone kid youselves about his conservative bona fides. As was pointed out above he is a dyed in the wool staunch conservative. His opposition to the war is a product of that conservatism and his own personal war experience.

Now that doesn't mean that his, and other conservatives endorsing or expressing admiration for Obama, like Andrew Bacevich and Doug Kmiec should go unnoticed. I just not convinced that Hagel should be second in line to the Presidency in a Democratic administration.

I think what many conservatives (and liberals) are looking for in an Obama presidency is honest political debate. We can have spirited debate about policy matters without all the ad hominem attacks and chicanery. We have many civil liberty, war, and economic issues that are in dire need of attention.

He would make a very good Secretary of Defense. But quite frankly he would make an excellent former Senator from Nebraska which is what he will be since he is retiring. That would be my preference--with all due respect to the Senator.

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Yes, Hagel is a serious conservative about many things. But for years now, he has shamed the cowardly Dems with his willingness to call out the war and the administration, way before it was "Popular" and at much cost to his own political career.

He would make a tremendous Secretary of Defense, and is someone a deeply hope we will see on an Obama cabinet. He is precisely what a coalition of non-lobbyist ideals is all about.

Not as VP, But Hagel is a stud.

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Definitely not as VP but I have a lot of respect for him and he won't be doing anything after the election so he could conceivably get a spot on the cabinet. There are plenty of issues where progressives and conservatives overlap. Although he is very conservative so care would have to be taken but it might make sense in the name of bipartisanship.

O lord - shades of '04, when some Democrats were floating the idea of a Kerry/McCain ticket.

No Republicans on the ticket and Obama isn't going to do that.

But Hagel is hardly hard right - he's one of if not the most liberal Republican out there, for god's sake. Well, if you know anything about Chuck Hagel, there's no need to apologize for his approval.

But no Republican Veeps - period.

Webb is good - I like the idea of a southern veep. I would love to see Edwards get the nod - he is popular here in Texas and I love the guy - he walks the walk, he doesn't just talk.

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My problem with Edwards is that he's got a thin resume (no foreign policy, blah, blah, blah), and he's "young", and while neither of those things is bad, in itself, for Obama, it's a bad fit.

They're too similar

Edwards is annoying. I say Richardson. He a very affable guy, and it will help solidify the Latino vote.

Yes, it's great that disaffected Republicans are leaning toward Obama -- more evidence that his inspiration and ability to work with others crosses party lines. But I don't think the cure for eight years of Republican mismanagement of, well, everything is to put them in cabinet.

Especially not as VP. Remember what happened when (Republican, those were the good guys at the time) Abraham Lincoln reached across party lines to appoint Southern Democrat Andrew Johnson as his running mate in 1864?

(If you don't remember, Lincoln was assassinated; Johnson put an end to Reconstruction.)

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Hagel can end up at State or Defense. I'd love to see the man pull a Zell Miller at the Democratic Convention, though maybe only the original Zell would be crazy enough to do that. ("I wish we lived in the time when I could challenge you to a duel!")

I'm still a big Sebelius fan. She's a white midwestern catholic Red-State governor with high approval ratings. What's not to like?

My thought is this: The chance to kill two demographic birds with one stone will prove impossible for McCain to overcome. One demographic bird can be boxed in, but two of them? Then it becomes destiny. Nobody wants to run against a black man and a woman on the same ticket, especially not a popular woman with red state appeal. That's like running agains AmericaTM.

Didn't Sebelius give the R.E.M. State of the Union rubuttal?

My problem with Edwards is that he's got a thin resume (no foreign policy, blah, blah, blah), and he's "young", and while neither of those things is bad, in itself, for Obama, it's a bad fit.

Yeah I actually agree with you on thinking about it further. I started picturing the two of them together and you're right - too much alike.

I've wondered if this isn't at least part of the reason Edwards hasn't moved toward Obama yet. Obama seems like a much better ideological match for him in terms of endorsement, but I think he knows there are no VP prospects for him with Obama. But with Clinton?

duel!")

I'm still a big Sebelius fan. She's a white midwestern catholic Red-State governor with high approval ratings. What's not to like?

I like the idea of a woman.

A female VP would placate some diehard Hillary backers. Hillary herself is now a non-starter, but as a Democratic governor in Republican Kansas, Sebelius has demonstrated bipartisan appeal. She's term-limited in 2010, so she needs a job. A Catholic Midwesterner, she can claim roots in Michigan and Ohio. But she lacks the foreign-policy and security chops of Hagel, Webb or Clark. Still, my money's on her. Pelosi might be a surprise choice, McCaskill would be a longshot. But I think Obama goes for a woman to cast the broadest possible net after McCain picks Lieberman.

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he was one of the first among Congress (ahead of many Democrats and nearly all Republicans) to start criticizing Bush's foreign policy and tactics in the war on terror.

I admire his courage. It took a lot of courage to stand up against Bush. He took a beating in Nebraska.

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Eh, I live in Nebraska so I'm pretty familiar w/Hagel. Chuck is okay for a Republican, and he truly doesn't give a hot damn what people think, but he'd never take the veep spot for a Democrat. Trust.

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I like Sibelius, except I think Obama really needs someone with more foreign policy depth.

Whomever he picks can't be mired in the establishment mindset of the past...he needs a wizened, experienced warrior/diplomat who is willing to think outside the conventional foreign policy box and support Obama's proposed overhaul of American global leadership strategy (see http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_obama_doctrine)

Clark would be great, as he would neutralize McCain's strengths and adds gravitas for the Reagan Dem types. He's always been so close to the Clintons though. I thought he would have run again, but maybe he figured it was Hillary's race, and he wouldn't think of budging in ...

Then again, Clark might do it, if asked. He comes across as being first, and foremost, a patriot.

Richardson would be an obvious choice, but the grapevine has it he did not pass the Clintons' muster...

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I like Sibelius, except I think Obama really needs someone with more foreign policy depth.

Whomever he picks can't be mired in the establishment mindset of the past...he needs a wizened, experienced warrior/diplomat who is willing to think outside the conventional foreign policy box and support Obama's proposed overhaul of American global leadership strategy (see http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_obama_doctrine)

Clark would be great, as he would neutralize McCain's strengths and adds gravitas for the Reagan Dem types. He's always been so close to the Clintons though. I thought he would have run again, but maybe he figured it was Hillary's race, and he wouldn't think of budging in ...

Then again, Clark might do it, if asked. He comes across as being first, and foremost, a patriot.

Richardson would be an obvious choice, but the grapevine has it he did not pass the Clintons' muster...

Hagel for VP? No, never. Do I have respect for him? A great deal. If any former Republican (and Webb is one of those) that is not currently a Democrat should be considered, it's Lincoln Chaffee.

Webb is a right leaning Democrat, but still a better choice than many others and might be seen as a balance, plus he brings previous executive branch experience.

His books were very much a non-issue, especially after Lynn Cheney's own books have featured lesbian affairs.

Sebelius, I think, is a very good choice. Richardson would not be bad.

I'm afraid an Obama/Chaffee ticket would be too easily pigeonholed as the "anti-war ticket" in a general election, since that would be the most publicized affinity between the two and McCain could capitalize on that.

Given that there doesn't seem to be anyone who covers all the bases, I think I prefer the mix that would be accomplished with Sibelius, although the foreign policy aspect is an important gap that would have to be addressed through other means.

In recent polling a vast majority is against the war. What makes you think being pigeonholed as the anti-war ticket would be bad? Do you think we should be going after the neocon vote?

No, I'm not suggesting we should go after the neocon vote, but I do think Obama's approach to the question of Iraq will need to be more nuanced than it has been in the primary. The public is unhappy with the war but that doesn't mean they will respond well to repeated reminders that "we've been against this war from the beginning." You already see McCain attacking that position.

I also think gearing a ticket too much to that particular issue is a high-risk option too much at the mercy of fluctuations in events in Iraq.

I also think that, in the general election, there will be a big difference between being against the war in Iraq and being "anti-war." The latter threatens to ignite ideological reactions despite attitudes toward Iraq specifically. I'm not saying Obama couldn't resist this generalization, but I'm confident the Republicans will push it.

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Nancy Pelosi or Barbara Boxer. They would need to have foreign policy experience, preferably. Hillary would be good in the election because she can be an attack dog, if truly needed, but would be a hindrance to campaign reform and changing the system in the end. She would be a distraction with her baggage... of course, Obama would need to constantly par with Bill's transgressions with these Dubai folks and others.

I think Pelosi or Boxer might be risky choices. Any woman with a liberal voting record is going to be mercilessly skewered and ridiculed by right-wing TV and radio. For this reason, any woman VP candidate will have to be either well tested with a proven ability to withstand the attacks (i.e., Clinton) or someone with less of a national record (maybe Sibelius). In either case, a certain exceptional "gravitas" will be necessary to counter the unfair, but real gender bias that still exists and that the right-wing will shamefully exploit. A female candidate will need to be an exceptional one. Clinton would probably be the safest choice because she's been through it and has done well. As an Obama supporter, I haven't been crazy about the idea of Obama/Clinton, but the more I think about it, the more I'm warming up to it.

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Speaking of foreign policy credentials, I am somewhat surprised that nobody is talking about Joe Biden as VP anymore.

Biden has the experience, but he has a habit of running at the mouth and saying stupid things that get him in trouble. I'd stay away from him for that reason alone.

p.s. Edwards, though -- now he'd make a great Veep.

Edwards needed to have endorsed Obama by now to secure that.

no he wouldn't.

The only trouble there is that we've already seen that movie and, as I recall, the ending was disappointing.

Hagel was also on the Diane Rhem Show (NPR).

His statements about needing a historic change from the current partisan politics and his praise for Obama led me to believe he might be in favor of endorsing Obama.

But it would probably be after the Democratic convention, at the very earliest.

Vile cliches:
1) "the lessons of Vietnam"
2) "the Iraq War is the greatest foreign policy blunder of (insert hyperbole)"
3) "war hero"


No, the MIC is corrupt, evil, and despotic; Vietnam and Iraq weren't blunders, they were part of the plan. Don't be in awe of war medals- despise them, and demand peace.

You Rock!

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Yeah. That'd be just...uh...great.

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Yep, sane people endorse Obama.

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