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Alright, Clinton voters
What are you voting for?
Did you really sit down and decide that you want another race baiting, fear mongering, press bullying president simply because she has the same last name as the previous President? That's what you're voting for.
As it stands, there are three candidates in this race. You can vote
for John McCain and enjoy another four years of Bush's conservative policies. You can vote for Hillary Clinton and enjoy another four
years of Bush style governance. Or if you decide you want an actual
Democrat in the White House, you can vote for Barack Obama. It's that
simple.
Bill Clinton did some good things, but he was not a great president. When you vote for a Clinton restoration, you're voting for a world where Republicans control the terms of the debate and the details of the policy. You're voting for a world where Democrats are the minority party.
Bill Clinton was by no means the best the we have to offer. Don't you think it's time to vote for what's best in the Democratic Party? Or are you really so enamored of mediocrity? That's what you're voting for.
Hillary Clinton believes that this is a fundamentally conservative country and that achieving actual liberal goals is not possible. Hillary Clinton voted FOR the war in Iraq. She voted FOR making it easy for Bush to attack Iran. And she couldn't even be bothered to vote against retroactive telecom immunity. That's what you're voting for.
Hillary Clinton is the child of upper middle class parents who had every advantage in her life. She worked for a corporate law firm before joining the board of Wal-Mart. You know her today only because she married a man who became president. Do you really think that when the chips are down, she'll stand with you? That's what you're voting for.
So, tell me, Clinton voters, what the fuck are you voting for?
Comments (10)
While I do agree that people should think further about what they're getting, I disagree completely that just because Clinton, or anyone, was raised in the upper middle class (or upper), they cannot speak for those that don't have a voice.
That's what public service at least should be about. Unfortunately, humans are incredibly corruptible, and not many live up to that ideal.
Some, though, can.
March 5, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's a fine point, CSCS, and I agree with you. But Clinton had choices to make in her life that weren't related to her upbringing and I don't find her decisions to be compelling.
March 5, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think that her base can be best described as two main categories: women and hard core moderate Dems.
The hard core Dems vote often, tend to be older, and they are very pragmatic. My experience with these voters is that they put a lot into who "deserves" to be the candidate. So you'll often see this block of voters back whomever the establishment candidate is: Hillary Clinton, Kerry, Gore - because they feel the candidate has paid their dues to the party and should be rewarded for that.
March 5, 2008 10:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Tell other people what they're voting for. That's not arrogant or anything.
March 5, 2008 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
I want to know what they think they are voting for. I'm telling them what they're getting.
March 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
Looking at the futures markets, like the Iowa Electronic Markets, as the quote for Clinton nomination rises, the quote for Democratic Winner-Take-All falls.
This Pyrrhic victory goes ultimately to John McCain, and through him to George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Karl Rove.
As long as Democrats vote out of fear, they deserve minority status.
March 5, 2008 10:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
Don't you remember what happened to Bill and Hillary when they tried to advance their ideals as leaders? They got their butts kicked by the republican machine. They had to deal with 8 years of constant attacks and blocks that was backed by a lot of power and money. Don't you think Hillary Clinton learned something from that. I think she has spent a lot of time and hard work learning how to function in the system that exists. I think she can stand up to the republicans and work across the aisle.I also don't expect this system to change that rapidly. Obama worries me, because I don't think he has the experience to deal with our existing political system and I don't think he can be that effective in changing it. His rise in popularity seems a little to pied piper-ish and reality show genre-ish and dosn't give this listener a feeling of confidence.
March 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, she learned something, but what she learned is no longer operative. The Clinton Adminstration saw the rise and dominance of the Republican Congress. She "learned" that this is a "fundamentally conservative country"--words she herself has uttered. Voting for her will be taking us backwards into that same area. She'll think she has to work with Republicans in specific ways. That is why she voted for Iraq and for Iran and abstained on telecom immunity--because she thinks that the Republicans can't be beat on national security. Voting for her is to cede ground to Republicans, ground that we have gained in the 2006 election.
March 5, 2008 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Didn't they get their butts kicked because they tried a top down dictatorial approach to one of the most important pieces of reform in this country's history?
Was that really putting their ideals in action? Closed meetings and a take or leave it attitude with Congress.
Their own hubris set themselves up to fail.
On what they did succeed on, Welfare reform really isn't a progressive policy. Balancing the budget is something the shared with the Republicans in Congress.
March 5, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Your kind of making my point and missing it at the same time. She has learned from her mistakes. She won N.Y. for her senate seat not by topdown dictatorial politics but by listening to people. She learned from her hubris. They had a lot of obsticals now didn't they? Obama will face the same hurdles. He may have more help from a democratic congress but don't think it will be easy.They both should be able to work with republicans to get something done in this country.
March 5, 2008 2:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
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