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Why fix something that wasn't broken?


I can't say that I am satisfied with TPM's new version. Is anybody? (show of hands). I found the old system very flexible and intelligent. The new system reminds me somehow of Window's Vista, f'yaknowhaddamean.

I am very unhappy that there is not a "review" capability in this new system.

Like many people do, I make loads of typos when I'm writing and I like to see the final result a couple of times before everybody else does. Then sometimes I find new material later and would like to add it to the original  I  liked that it was possible to go back and re-edit things once they were up.

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Assurances are made by Josh and Andrew that improvements will come, although perhaps depending on funds. Here's his answer to one of my blog posts:

----"The prime reason behind the redesign of TPMCafe is twofold. First, it ran on a different software platform than the rest of our sites. That meant constant headaches for us in trying to keep it running and making it fit together with our other sites. Second, very few people could figure out how it worked. There some great things about it. And there was a core audience that had figured it out. But overwhelmingly our audience could not." [I guess the "core audience" was us---TW]

"I personally wanted the opinion pieces that run at TPMCafe to be more on the front page of TPM, in our news section. And I also wanted to find ways for the material that readers posted in their blogs to be more prominent, for them to get on the front page of TPM as well as on the front page of our other sites."

"We also thought it would expand the breadth of TPMCafe's discussions and community if cafe denizens could comment, using their same stable identities on TPM material from other sites too." [I've noted the use of the word "breadth" as opposed to depth---TW]

"As Andrew notes, there are still a couple levels of functionality such as threaded comments that aren't working correctly. And a few of the kinds of functionality that were lost -- such as ability to track threads, we're going to try to work back in as funds make it possible."

Some of us have measured a large traffic increase, so the important goal was met, I suppose. Drop by Eric Stepp's Cafe rump site:
http://projectlucidity.com/forum/index.php

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I am posting this to hope for your success in this change and I hope you feel the same about us.

Second, very few people could figure out how it worked. There some great things about it. And there was a core audience that had figured it out. But overwhelmingly our audience could not." [I guess the "core audience" was us---TW]

One cannot blame the users for not figuring it out! Management did not put any information for a new user or did management put instructions about the benefits of registering and how to use the site.

The view that users failed is a nonstarter. I would be interested in how many of the old registered commenter made the jump. If this new site continues as it is now most of the older users will not be here long in my opinion.

Please, do not keep the same attitude towards us the users as have been exhibited in the past. We had many threads about promises and fixes that never happened. There would have been many more posters if the things a new user needs were available. As it is now posting here has a very sterile non-emotional connection to the comment one is posting in response to. If you value us you will help to make this a better experience. If you do not please let the old users know where the rest went to post.

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I tried searching through blog posts at TPM by using Election Central as source. It appears that any blog post that went up there, or at Muckraker I guess, showed up at the Cafe. Interestingly, there is more than one Cafe. When you go to "all reader posts" at EC you get a page with the Cafe heading, but it's a different list of blog posts. That is, EC posts are there but not some original Cafe posts. In particular, one of mine, "Why Not a Subscription Cafe?" shows up in the Cafe rolls but not in the EC/Cafe rolls.

That may be because my identity is not working right, but the explanation for the instant increse is simply cross-linking into one site.

Another question I had was whether any notice was given to any sector at TPM that detailed what was coming. I searched at TPM, Election Central, and Muckraker, using "site upgrade" both with and without quotes. Nothing at Muck, EC returns an error message, but TPM returned this from the departed Kate Cambor, back when Josh did include us: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2005/09/29/home_improvements/

Following up on Josh's recent post about some upgrades at the site, we want to get further imput from you about what you'd like to see done at TPMCafe. We narrowed down your suggestions to these four, but we'd like more suggestions from you over at the Cafe Management discussion table. Thanks for your help!

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As far as I can tell, all blogs are posted in the Cafe section by default. They can also optionally be posted to the Muckrakers and/or Election Central sections if you check one or both of the boxes that are located just above the submit button when writing a blog.

If I had a vote, all EC blogs would only show in EC as they are the ones causing the recently listed Cafe only blogs to scroll off the front page so fast.

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You don't have a vote, of course.

Compare Kate's words in the last para above to Josh, further up-thread.

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You don't have a vote, of course.

Too true. Sigh.

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