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Open Thread: Super Tuesday Voting Strategy Edition

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I'm really not understanding why people are having so much trouble figuring out who to vote for today. It's easy:

Which candidate is less likely to drop bombs on other countries?

Cause I'm pretty sure, we need a whole lot less bomb-dropping these days.

What's your voting strategy? Alternately, you can post about what you're making for dinner tonight. I'm just as interested.

Seriously, I am.


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For me the Constitution has been the over-riding issue. Character the basic principle. And Health Care and the War most in need of repair.

I put these together and it spells: Obama. ♪ ♬

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Constitution? That's so quaint...

:-)

I'm old fogy, aren't I? Rule of Law!!! ♪

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These Election Central people around here are very serious about politics, aren't they?

Probably leftover meatloaf. I cook it with spinach and scrambled eggs, it's a recipe from Diamond Jims in L.A. You're welcome to join us.

I'm voting for Edwards, as it may serve to remind the other two to keep focused on real issues.

After 8 years of W, I am convinced that policy matters a lot more than personality, or media hype.

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Thanks for the invite!

Now, meatloaf...made with scrambled eggs? You mean, on the side? Or in them?

An Edwards vote...I thought about that...

You crumple the meatloaf in a skillet, and cook it with the spinach, then you add the eggs and scramble it all together. Top it off with Ketchup.

It sounds weird, but even kids like it.

As Krugman pointed out in his blog, the differences in policy between the leading Democrats is inconsequential, compared to the differences in policy between the Dems and the Repubs. I thought Edwards had the best policies for working Americans, especially some of his ideas on the credit card industry.

I can push those ideas a little forward by voting for him now, but whomever ends up the Dem nominee will probably get my vote in the general.

I'm tired of the bickering.

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So it's kind of like scrambled eggs with spinach and meat(loaf). I get it -- it sounds *really* good. I have to try it.

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If it was not close as of next Tuesday (Virginia primary) I probably would have voted for Edwards, my first choice, for the same reasons workerbee gave.

As it is, now that Edwards is out, I have developed a fairly strong preference, largely on electability intuitions, for Obama, so I will be voting for him. Even if he does not prevail Hillary would, I think, really need to try to persuade him to come onto the ticket as her running mate. That will be more evident to Hillary the closer her margin of victory is, if she does prevail. And I really hope he would accept if offered.

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I also settled on Edwards. Then, he dropped out.

Edwards was first choice with Obama as VP, but ain't to be. So, on to Plan B. I've voted but will stay mum (I wreaked enough havoc on the front page; I'm chillin'). As for dinner, left over spaghetti bake thingy with too much cheese and not enough sauce (I hate to throw stuff out, even when it sorta sucks ;-) Might heat up some garlic breadsticks.

Make sure you add a little water.

Leftovers, leftovers, leftovers.

Somehow, it seems appropriate today.

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Leftover chili for me tonight, by the way. And some salad, with these awesome peppers and onions I pickled.

Progressive pundit picks a peck of pickled peppers.

(sorry...couldn't resist)

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Haha! I see you've switched over to the bee motif...

Yeah, I didn't want to inflict my silly mug on you all, anymore.

:)

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Is there really such a thing as too much cheese?

To cscs and too much cheese (not sure if this will show under your comment ;-), I can get a little heavy handed with the cheese and drown out the other flavors. I'll do better next time :-)

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Well, if you drown the others flavors out with cheese, you're left with...cheese.

That works for me!

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"I'm voting for Edwards, as it may serve to remind the other two to keep focused on real issues.

After 8 years of W, I am convinced that policy matters a lot more than personality, or media hype."

Amen to that. If Hillary or Barack wins in November, on Inauguration a whole lot of us will feel better about our country.

The question is what then, the day after? Those of us who have worked as staff in the US Congress know it's very much a grind-it-out, reaching out, harvesting Congressional votes kind of process. Notably unromantic. Watching the sausage get made is unpretty. Members of Congress are often romantic about themselves and their own narrative, but rarely so about others in government. And a lot of them are not especially willing followers. They've been told their whole lives they are leaders--some of them are but in a Congressional context where each of them has 534 peers many, inevitably, are not especially influential with their colleagues. That makes them kind of ornery and cranky about following the latest Messiah in the Oval Office or wherever.

You're right--good policy will make much more of a difference in whether the American Dream becomes accessible to many more of our fellow citizens than how inpirational or charismatic the occupant of the Oval Office is. Those factors are not, of course, entirely unrelated to one another, and for young women and people of color having a role model to look up to is symbolically very important.

The major question for me, though, is who is more likely to be able to get us some halfway decent policy in this country? Like Tom Wright I keep coming back to, in addition to winning the presidency obviously, the makeup of the next Congress. It doesn't do you much good to dream big dreams as a young person if the school you are going to cannot provide you with the kind of education and contacts you'll need to develop opportunities for yourself. Or if you have debilitating asthma which your family can't afford to get treated because you don't have health insurance.

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I rated this a 5.

Or, at least in my head I did.

We do tend to lose sight of Congressional races in the spotlight of the presidential race. I hope the Dems regain real control of Congress, but even if they don't, I hope Congress will regain some vision and sense about what is right for the country as a whole. That may be too much to ask. At least, I hope the new Congress won't allow itself to be neutered the way it has been under W, regardless of which party occupies the White House. The tension between Legislative and Executive is healthy, not always pleasant, but necessary, with the Judicial wearing the striped shirts and blowing the whistle. Anyway, here's to better policy and better days.

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There's good news on the electing-Democrats-to-Congress front. Soros has started a new 527, the Fund for America.

George Soros pours $2.5 million into new advocacy group

Here comes Big George again. Billionaire George Soros is weighing in heavily with more cash, delivering $2.5 million to a new political organization called Fund for America.

According to a year-end campaign report filed with the Internal Revenue Service and uncovered by The Times' Dan Morain, Fund for America was organized by Taco Bell heir Rob McKay, former Clinton White House Chief of Staff John Podesta and Anna Burger of the Service Employees International Union. The SEIU matched Soros with another $2.5 million, too. Other major donors include investor Donald Sussman, who has given $1 million and AKT Development of Sacramento.

Although it cannot get directly involved in advocacy for or against candidates, Fund for America is expected to air television ads and take other political action aimed at helping Democrats claim the White House and retain control of Congress.The group is organized as a "527," so named for the revenue code section that defines it.

Fund for America is the liberal answer to the conservative Freedom's Watch, organized by former political aides to President Bush and funded by wealthy Republicans including billionaire Sheldon Adelson of Las Vegas. But as a nonprofit corporation, Freedom's Watch is not required to disclose its donors.

Nice, huh?

More info at the LA Times blog: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/02/geos.html

Andrew, if you're reading, the last time I tried the blockquotes HTML code, it didn't work. Don't know yet if it will here, but I'm passing the info along.

Which candidate is less likely to drop bombs on other countries?

Unless a voter is more concerned about the economy, in which case a few bomb droppings might prop up the economy.

But seriously, for me, voting this primary season is easy. Independents do not get to vote for candidates in the May primary. My ballot will not have any candidate names from which to choose.

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Well, that's what you get for being an Ind. You're missing out on all the fun today.

Still, doesn't matter. Oregon's primary is May 20th. The winner will already have been picked.

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Well, if it makes you feel better, today's the first day my vote ever mattered in a primary.

I guess that won't make you feel better. Just sayin', I know how you feel.

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