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Hillary to voters, "Screw you."
Changing the rules over Michigan and Florida no longer gives the Hillary campaign an edge. Attacking caucus states, which rings so much like a sore-loser's strategy, is totally ineffectual in improving her numbers. So the new win-at-all-cost strategy is to blatantly disregard the will of the people, the popular vote, and the elected delegates, and to instead sway the insider machinery via the superdelegates. Just imagine, the next Democratic presidential nominee selected by the very same members of Congress which cower to Bush and betray the voters on a day-to-day basis.
This is no longer Bush-lite. It's Bush heavy. All that's missing is the consigliere, James Baker. Not only will she say anything to get elected, she'll do anything to seize power even if she's not elected. It's amazing that this is possible in the "Democratic" party.










Comments (31)
No, no dynasty to defend here.
February 14, 2008 9:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Personally, at this point I think it's best to just ignore this. There haven't been any actual ugly tactics, yet, just talk of how the superdelegates might go, etc.
Obama is looking very good right now. Let's stay positive and not go negative.
February 14, 2008 9:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, the Clintons do have a consigliere: Ickes. And now he's trying to rename superdelegates.
February 14, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary's message has become whining about this or that. Who wants to hear someone whine?
February 14, 2008 9:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
I have to think that Obama is licking his chops should Hillary make a blatant move to "overrule" the popular vote of her own party. What better way to draw the distinction between him and her?
I am for the people. She is for power.
February 14, 2008 10:17 AM | Reply | Permalink
So well put. Does she not realize We the People are the ones who have a contract called the Constitution? And that we're looking for leaders who contract with us, not with an oligarchy.
Pathetic! Hillary is becoming pathetic. Whining and badgering voters into submission will not work this election season.
February 14, 2008 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Please do not forget Whiner-in-Chief Bill. His latest is that Hillary has run a wonderful campaign on a skimpy budget of $140 million. Of course if they had chargedClinton-buddy Gupta of InfoUSA more than $80,000 for the campaign's mailing list (market value supposedly closer to $900,000) they might have had more to spend on inflated salaries.
February 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Glad you threw that in! ♪♪♪
February 15, 2008 12:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
New Hillary slogan: "No You Can't!"
February 14, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
Just more proof that Hillary is more of the same; she's not afraid to steal an election if she needs to, just like her hubby's buddy the Bushes.
February 14, 2008 10:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with Ben. This is all tough talk anyway. If Obama gets a decisive pledged lead, she'll withdraw, and if he only gets a small pledged lead, it's fair for her to stay in the race. The superdelegates don't have to go with the majority vote. Indeed, I think that the whole point of superdelegates is to give the party some say in the election. If they had to vote with the majority, then they would server no purpose
That said, I hope that Clinton withdraws for the good of the party, and I hope that the superdelegates go with the majority pledged, but I probably wouldn't feel that way if I didn't support Obama.
February 14, 2008 10:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
I hate to disagree with someone who's agreeing with me, but if Hillary were to drop out now, the media would pay more attention to the McCain/Huckabee race. I.e., they'd be paying more attention to McCain. Right now, they're paying more attention to the Obama/Clinton race, and that's a good thing(tm)—as long as it stays mostly clean and positive.
Hillary dropping out is not the best thing for the party right now. Hillary keeping it clean and positive is.
February 14, 2008 10:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
I sort of hope "Clinton withdraws for the good of the party," too, but at the same time I kind of want to see her get beat at the convention. I wonder how it will play out - temper tantrums, threats, storming out of the convention center, maybe even turning on Bill and kicking him hard right in the stuff. "Buh, buh, but it's MY turn to be President!!" It would make great TV...
*sigh* No, you're probably right, Genghis, she should just withdraw gracefully when the time comes. Maybe her concession will be a good and snotty non-concession (kind of like the past few where she failed to acknowledge or congratulate Obama). That would suffice, I think.
February 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary dropping out is not the best thing for the party right now. Hillary keeping it clean and positive is.
Something tells me those are not the only two options.
February 14, 2008 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
I didn't mean that she should withdraw immediately. I hope that Obama beats her in TX and/or OH, and then she drops out. Obama needs to focus his time, energy, and resources on McCain, and the Dems need to stop bickering.
(Though I share your thought, burnedout, it would be fun to watch it all go down at convention.)
February 14, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
That's one of those bad news/good news scenarios, I reckon:
Yeah, but ain't it exciting!
February 14, 2008 11:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
Actually I think a really childish exit might put out the house fire. Look at it this way, the primary is so close right now, that regardless of who wins, half the party is going to feel slighted. Now, if Clinton throws a world-class hissy fit in public, all of her supporters can step back and collectively agree that they dodged a bullet on this one and offer more genuine support to Obama.
Sure it's crazy, far fetched and more than a little voyeuristic, but it's for the good of the party, darn it!! :)
February 14, 2008 3:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is why Dems are good at losing elections. The GOP had it right: they try to close ranks as quickly as possible. The Dems love a good brawl -- Chicago 1968 comes to mind, when it was clear that the GOP nominee was going to be Richard Nixon!
February 14, 2008 9:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah let's get this to the convention! That is exactly what a convention is for. Since the primaries have been front loaded we haven't had anything but a boring coronation at the conventions in a long time. The real history of this country has been very much a race to get a nominee AT the conventions and not a million years before. Honestly if I knew this week what was going to happen in November I would be bored to death with the whole election and I think the MSM would have months and months to beat it like a wet pinata.
I also need to say that the endless Clinton hatred is boring as hell as well. Get a life haters.... it always tells you more about what goes on in someone's own head than anything they can project onto someone else. Hillary has spent her entire adult life trying to make life a little better for average folks in this dog eat dog country. There is a reason she has such big working class support .... because she has earned it. She is a working class hero! Too many O bomb fanatics sound like they have just got religion or something .... or are trying to make a fashion statement. The most powerful person on the planet better have something more going for them than they are cooler and make high schoolers scream louder.
February 15, 2008 12:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Chelsea Clinton 2012!!
February 15, 2008 8:15 AM | Reply | Permalink
To see how much Sen. Obama cares about the 'the will of the people', google "Obama knows ballot".
February 14, 2008 11:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
Done.
Question: What part of Obama being willing and able to play hardball is supposed to worry me?
February 14, 2008 12:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait a minute—are you suggesting that he actually has more than just two years of experience?!?
February 14, 2008 12:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really like this point you made:
Even though it kind o' turns the stomach to think about.
February 14, 2008 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
WTF happened to all the "progressive" men lately? All I hear are a bunch of sexist troglodytes. Is the RedState?
February 14, 2008 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sexist troglodytes? Do cite an example on this thread; otherwise, do abstain from baseless vitriol.
February 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Since when has THE IRON B****(aka.Hillary} run anything Positive?I will say this with my last breath NEVER has she run or said anything Positive!!!She has already gone NEGATIVE on Obama!
February 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Clintons are going to have to be dragged off the stage. There is no indication that they will play the role of dignified elder statesmen/women at this point. They are already threatening to go all the way to Denver no matter what since they have already decided that there is no way of having the delegate count show "decisiveness" (by their definition) at this point.
Ted Kennedy knew what he was doing when he backed Obama. Remember, he knows the Clintons very, very well.
February 14, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
There's a lot of squawk about the legacies of RFK, and MLK jr, in this election. I don't feel I'm exagerating when I say both are probably spinning in their graves over this.
When John Lewis spoke about Obama inspiring the hope of an RFK, I rolled my eyes heavenward. I know it might be unfamiliar to the readers here, and I don't think it's a stretch to say that it might not mean much to your lot (though that has more to do with the lack of clarity of your vision, and your commitment to social justice and civil rights), but this is what inspired people about Robert F. Kennedy:
“Yet the gross national product does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education, or the joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages; the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of ourpublic officials. It measures neither our wit nor our courage; neither our wisdom nor our learning; neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country; it measures everything, in short, except that which makes life worthwhile. And it tells us everything about America except why we are proud that we are Americans.” Robert F. Kennedy
After Kennedy ran for the senate, he introduced several projects in the state of NY, including assistance to underprivileged children and students with disabilities. He established the Bedford-Stuyvesant Restoration Corporation to improve living conditions and employment opportunities in economically depressed areas of Brooklyn.
Robert F. Kennedy addressed the needs of the poor, the young, racial minorities and Native Americans. It was a bit over 41 years ago, that he raised the awareness of the American people, and challenged them to consider the plight of the poor by going into urban ghettos, Appalachia, the Mississippi Delta and migrant workers’ camps.
Robert Kennedy was committed to the advancement of human rights worldwide. He traveled to Eastern Europe, Latin America and South Africa to expound upon his belief that all people should have a basic right to participate or criticize their government without fear.So it is extremely troubling to me that his brother, Senator Ted Kennedy can not spare the time to travel even to the impoverished cities and towns in his own state, Massachusetts. Where far too many American citizens, of all races and ethnicities suffer from the hardships and privations of dire poverty. Given that he has abandoned any goal of resolving the severe problems of un and under employment brought about by the outsourcing of jobs that stared in the 1980s.
The senator, who supported George Bush’s disastrous “No Child Left Behind”, has embraced the Bush administrations, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s drive to erode American wage standards and workplace laws and protections.
Given the stands taken by his late brother Robert, one has to ask why the senator from Massachusetts ignores the suffering in his own backyard? The late RFK believed in championing the causes of those in poor countries to help empower them to stand up against the dictators and despots who sought to oppress them, to demand better standards of living.
Senator Ted Kennedy, seems more interested in providing cover for those same types of despots and dictators by assisting George Bush in imposing third world wage suppression in the U.S. . The masses of illegal aliens imported into the country are being exploited to expend their energy to create the same types of economic conditions here that exist in their home countries. They are being used as pawns in a game that will lead to their own further exploitation. Immigration law is not domestic, but foreign policy. Those who seek to treat it as domestic policy do so because they wish to adopt the greedy and cruel policies of the third world.Driving down wages, increasing poverty and extinguishing hope. What this tells me is that the senator is the sort of man his two late brothers, President John F. Kennedy, and Senator Robert F. Kennedy, would have railed against.
Ted Kennedy was picking a horse in a race, that is all he was doing. I grew up respecting Ted, defending him. I used to respect Patrick as well, until as a constituent of his, I learned the real truth about where he stood on the issues. Ted is a slumlord, and in the pockets of corporate and foreign interests. His brother Robert and MLK jr would Gibbs smack him were they here today.
As to Caroline, while I have respect for her, and her loss. I admire her having written a book on civil rights, the woman hasn't spoken out on social justice or even addressed the civil rights threats we face as a nation. Her endorsement, like those of her uncle Ted and cousin Patrick meant diddley squat to me.
February 15, 2008 12:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Uh... Ted Kennedy got more legislation through the Congress than both his brothers combined and it has long been known that he was far more effective in the Senate than either of this brothers.
Deification is a dangerous thing. RFK may have turned a populist corner later in his life, but he was well-known to be incredibly vicious and vindictive politically. He was JFK pit bull and it was only after JFK was assassinated that he came into his own. And in the 1968 campaign, there was a lot of irritation for RFK waiting in the background to see how McCarthy's campaign went before he threw his hat in the ring. Kinda reminds you of another Senator in this race, doesn't it?
In terms of true bodily and career risk, MLK leaves the Bros. Kennedy in the dust. And I also have immense respect for Malcolm X. If you really want to see want to see a life transformed through deep thought, read his autobiography.
The most important thing to remember is that these were men who transcended themselves. It's more impressive to see that, then romanticize things, it may be comforting in the short term, but it leads to misinterpretation in the long term.
February 15, 2008 2:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
The decisive aspect of your argument is this:
Absolutely devastating.
Right on.
February 15, 2008 3:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
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