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Breaking: Mondale Insider, Old White Lady Carries Water for DLC Insider, Old White Lady

In a shocking development this morning, Geraldine Ferraro, VP candidate from the Stone Age, published an editorial rationalizing the role of the superdelegates- essentially why us young whippersnappers should sit down, shut up, and let the grownups talk at the big table. Ms. Ferraro manages to simultaneously blame Ted Kennedy for the woes of the 1980s Democratic Party, justify the paternalistic nature of ossified Party leadership, advocate for the rule-breaking and totally rigged Florida and Michigan delegations to swing the nomination, alienate crossover Republican and Independent voters, and basically repudiate all that Dr. Dean and the modern Democratic Party stand for. As an attorney and distinguished Congressional alumni, I think it’s safe to say that she is completely aware that her fallacious arguments are bogus Clinton talking points.

 

So, Ms. Ferraro, allow me to retort….

 

After the 1980 presidential election, the Democratic Party was in disarray. That year, Senator Ted Kennedy had challenged President Jimmy Carter for the presidential nomination, and Mr. Kennedy took the fight to the convention floor by proposing 23 amendments to the party platform. When it was all over, members of Congress who were concerned about their re-election walked away from the president and from the party. The rest of the campaign was plagued by infighting.

 

Well, that is a pretty simplistic view of the situation. Jimmy Carter is a lovely man, but he was a failed President, a man who came to office with no idea of what he wanted to accomplish and no idea of how to get there- and it showed. He asked for his own Cabinet to resign, for God’s sake, was under siege almost constantly and the only plan he offered us was to turn down the thermostat, put on a sweater and despair. Ted Kennedy stepped up for the nomination because he saw his beloved Party failing badly, with its titular head basically its biggest problem. While Ms. Ferraro sees Senator Kennedy’s amendments to the platform as a problem, at least he was trying to do something differently instead of stoically going down with the USS Carter. Members of Congress walked away from President Carter very early in his administration, and spent the rest of his term showing the Executive who was boss. In 1980 they walked away from the Party because they could see the writing on the wall, and if they were to have any chance of maintaining their place in government they needed to distance themselves from the sinking ship pronto. And they knew they would have another chance in four years, so they changed the rules.

So we created superdelegates……These superdelegates, we reasoned, are the party's leaders. They are the ones who can bring together the most liberal members of our party with the most conservative and reach accommodation. They would help write the platform. They would determine if a delegate should be seated. They would help determine the rules. And having done so, they would have no excuse to walk away from the party or its presidential nominee.

So, their solution to fix the problem was to concentrate as much control as possible within their tiny personal club. Play by our rules or we won’t play at all. The Party intelligentsia handpicks the superdelegates, then controls the message and the rules, and if you disagree you simply will not be allowed to participate.

As a result of these new rules, we got the ultimate insider Presidential candidate, Walter Mondale. Most sensible Democrats knew right from the beginning that his candidacy was a huge mistake. Mondale lied and cheated, in concert with these superdelegates, to steal the nomination from the insurgent candidacy of Gary Hart. Ms. Ferraro served on the commission that created this system, was hand picked by Tip O’Neill to ensure that Congressional electeds would control the nominating process. She was rewarded with the VP selection, which Mondale hoped would give the appearance of inclusion without actually having to include anyone new. They were both part of the ruling class that created and benefited from this elitist system. Ms. Ferraro states with pride that that, “We lost in 1984, big time. But that loss had nothing to do with Democratic Party infighting.” No, it was because you were completely out of touch with the mainstream American electorate, had alienated half of your own Party, and had no creative ideas of how to deal with the Reagan juggernaut. But at least there was no dissention. Congratulations.

…The superdelegates were created to lead, not to follow. They were, and are, expected to determine what is best for our party and best for the country.

You know, because you and I and everyone else who bothered to educate ourselves on the issues, compare candidates, organize, and vote clearly should have no say in what’s best for the Party and the country. We really have no idea, actually. This argument is exactly why the same group of people who support the Clinton candidacy tried desperately to keep Howard Dean from becoming Chair of the DNC.

When Dr. Dean took control of the Party, over the vociferous objections of DLC and old school Democrats, he did something unusual.  He actually bothered to go out and ask all of the people for their vote. He created a strategy where we ask citizens in all 50 states what they want in a candidate and from the Democratic Party, not just the states with entrenched machines. And lo and behold, it worked. We started to win, not just in Democratic strongholds but in red states too. Montana and Virginia elected great Democrats, as well as Colorado, Missouri, and a bunch of other states that Mark Penn says don’t count. Tell Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader Harry Reid that they don’t count.

But despite the success of this philosophy we apparently still need the Party elders to give us what’s best for us, even if it does taste like castor oil. Ms. Ferraro argues that not enough Democrats have voted in primaries and caucuses to give a clear idea of which candidate they want. “If that is the case, we could end up with a nominee who has been actively supported by, at most, 15 percent of registered Democrats. That's hardly a grassroots mandate,” writes Ms. Ferraro. Maybe so, but it’s significantly more of a mandate than 796 superdelegates, don’t you think?

More important, although many states like New York have closed primaries in which only enrolled Democrats are allowed to vote, in many other states Republicans and independents can make the difference by voting in Democratic primaries or caucuses.

I guess this is why the Clinton campaign keeps telling us that New York is important, but none of the states Obama won is. In fact, Ms. Ferraro implies that Senator Obama only won South Carolina and Iowa because Republicans and Independents voted for him. (I thought it was black people, no, rich people? I get confused, it changes a lot…) “ He won his delegates fair and square, but those delegates represent the wishes not only of grassroots Democrats, but also Republicans and independents.” Guess what? Republicans and Independents vote in the general election too! Kerry and Gore taught us the painful lesson that without them, we lose. If John Kerry or Al Gore had appealed to these middle of the road folks, we wouldn’t have Chief Justice Roberts, countless brave men and women in uniform would still have their lives and all their limbs, and record numbers of Americans would still have their homes and their jobs. I guess only Minnesota has true Democrats, since that was the only state she and her ticket mate won in her completely incompetent national election.

But don’t worry, she’s only setting up the big straw man, “ if they are actually upset over the diminished clout of rank-and-file Democrats in the presidential nominating process, then I would love to see them agitating to force the party to seat the delegates elected by the voters in Florida and Michigan.” Bingo, there it is. Completely ignoring the fact that Senator Clinton’s campaign had the opportunity to object in 2007 but didn’t, that her mouthpiece Ickes voted for the sanctions, and that neither were fair contests because the other Democratic candidates followed the rules and didn’t campaign in these states, and disregarding the disenfranchisement of millions of voters in the other 48 states, American Samoa, the Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, etc., Ms. Ferraro valiantly fights for the rights of “grassroots delegates”, but only in Michigan and Florida, because they have been prescreened and found to be acceptable to her.

Here’s where it gets really good. “As it happens, the superdelegates themselves can solve this problem,” Ms. Ferraro opines, “At this summer's Democratic national convention in Denver, the superdelegates could assert their leadership on the credentials and rules committees. That is, after all, one of the reasons they were created in the first place in 1982.” A past Vice Presidential candidate of the Democratic Party is advocating that fewer than 800 faceless insiders overthrow the will of millions of American voters, simply because she doesn’t like whom they picked. It hurts my heart to read it.

If the only way that Senator Clinton can win is by changing rules, stealing delegates, and ignoring rank and file Democrats in favor of her political cronies (many of whom she and her husband have spent 15 years buying with ambassadorships, campaign donations, and DLC table scraps) then she deserves to lose, badly. If the best arguments that she can offer for her nomination are the anemic, fossilized, patronizing, alienating steaming piles of dung that Ms. Ferraro served up, then Dr. Dean should show Hillary Clinton, Geraldine Ferraro and the rest of the Geritol Gang to the door. And if the Democratic Party turns its back on millions of new voters, young voters, base voters and enlightened Republicans and Independents willing to actually listen before they vote, then we don’t deserve to win.


Comments (22)

Zingingly, methodically brilliant! Amen!

I wrote a comment elsewhere that, the sounds you're hearing now are party-elders' fingernails scraping the brick as they're being pried from the top floor of a burning building.

I was looking for that comment. I had posted on this on my blog and wanted to add your comment to it.

Fabooj -

I will track it down & provide a link. I can't remember which post I was replying to or even which site I was on. My TPM profile comments section does not seem to be updating or I'm missing a link or maxed out or something.

But I enjoyed your blog - especially putting the super-emes to task for fiddling while Dems were in the wilderness.

In this realm I don't think Dean is getting nearly enough credit for rebuilding.

Fabooj -

My comment was in response to GMan08's piece on Ferraro yesterday. Trouble pasting link so cut and paste in entirety below. Considering your p.o.v. think you'd enjoy his take also so you should check out.

Courtney Goodloe

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GMan08 -

After reading Ferraro's piece, I had the feeling of being in high-altitude, very thin air.

These are the sounds of party elders' fingernails scraping brick as they get pried from hanging onto the top floor of a burning building. The desperation is heightened as they find themselves on the wrong side of campaigns and history -simply b/c historical chits were called in.

For the commenter who speaks of long-hairs with too much time on their hands - hmmm we've been here before - this time the revolution is televised - and that commenter's tone mimics that of her candidate - which is exactly why they're losing. Bitterness only affects the person in which it resides.

Rock on!

Posted by courgood
February 25, 2008 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink

Thanks! I couldn't remember where I read it either. Seeing as how I usually have about 4 million tabs open, I wasn't looking forward to finding it.

You really should consider ditching the generation war framing (not to mention the race thing) if you want to win the general election, unless you are absolutely positively sure that the younger generation is going to turn out to vote in record breaking massive numbers and the "old" are going to stay home in 8 months time. That's an especially risky bet, as recent history has shown that it's them awful elderly retired people that get out and vote in every single election. Some of them are even Democrats, for now. But make them the evil adversary, and you never know. It didn't turn out that well for the boomers when they were young, doing that generation gap thing.

Just checking back to find out how the tactic of publicly denigrating the "old white lady" Democratic demographic on a popular political website is working out for you on helping out Obama.

Check this out, maybe learn something about winning votes:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/05/whyd_she_win/#comment-2632415

I am an old woman in Ohio. Here's what I read about myself today just in this thread:....by the way, I voted for Obama yesterday, for various reasons. But I'm getting really, really sick of the Kewl Kidz trashing everyone who didn't...retired people, old people -- we're definitely not very cool.

But we vote. Dammit, we do show up and vote....


This is the kind of mindset that is least likely to appeal to an enormous block of voters who have one foot out the door of the Democratic party right now. Keep it up. When old John McCain kicks our ass in Florida, Ohio, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania, we'll have attitudes like yours to thank. Guess why they call us boomers. Because there are a lot of us.


I'm sorry, Billy, but how long do we have to follow "leaders" like Ferraro at al solely because they supposedly know better? Especially when HRC's campaign has vividly illustrated that they don't? Hemorrhaging money, underestimating the competition, overestimating her own ability, and belittling a significant portion of the country isn't going to increase her support.

The Clinton campaign has spent the last month telling me that my vote doesn't count because:
1) I support for someone else
2) I live in a red state that HRC has no chance of winning, but BHO puts in play (Virginia)
3) I am under the age of 50
4) Someone in my household has a graduate degree
5) My household income is too high

Add up everyone who fits into one of these categories, plus first time voters, plus crossover voters and it becomes close to impossible for HRC to win even her own nomination, let alone the Presidency.

The stakes are simply too high this time to follow antiquated notions of who is a Democrat and how to win races. It doesn't further the Party or our candidates by capitulating to the "huge block of voters" who are willing to leave the Party, take their toys and go home because they couldn't win by changing the rules. But that's the typical Clinton mindset, win the battle at any cost- even if it means losing the war.

Typical Clinton mindset? Kill the party? My god you over reach. Bill and Hillary Clinton were the god damn party for a hell of a long time in the last decade when Congressional Democrats pissed their pants over the Republican revolution of Gingrich and the young fascists. Thank god the Clintons had the balls/him and brains/her to throw out a sitting Bush and steer this big fucking boat of immigrants a bit left and lots more smart. Thank god! Your whole premise is to piss on Carter and blame the bravest amoung us later that the ship doesn't sail so well in a shitstorm. Well duh! What pisses me off really is the infant tantrum mentality that blames whatever adult was in the room that things didn't go according to best intentions. That's life girl. Kennedy knew it was now or never for him and gambled that we still wouldn't end up with Reagan. We all lost that bet, big time. The real culprit was actually Iranian religious radicals who humiliated Americans with a year of hostages 24/7. It killed our pride and the right wing edged out the center. Period.

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"I'm sorry, Billy, but how long do we have to follow "leaders" like Ferraro at al solely because they supposedly know better?"


Or, as I like to put it, how long do you think we have to continue to ask our PARENTS how to vote?


News flash...we're all grown up now, and can make up our own minds, thank you very much. Waiting for the party elders to take care of this country, for future generations (like my 7-year-old son) is what got us into this mess in the first place.


Step aside, and we'll get'er done.


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Actually, instead of stepping aside, why not be of some actual help, and trust our energy and our judgment? We, the rank-and-file, are supposed to have learned at your "elder" knees, haven't we?


The Democratic Party is on the cusp of some major, much-needed change. Can't the party elders and rank-and-file do this together, instead of in spite of each other?

Interesting statistics: Looking at the Superdelegates by category, where do you suppose that Clinton holds the biggest lead? Among current Governors? Nope, she trails Obama 10 to 11. In the Senate? Barely, 12 to 11. She does have a slightly larger edge in House members, 73 to 66.

Nope, where she really cleans up is among Party leaders and DNC members, by 144 to 87. So her base of support, in fact almost her entire margin of advantage, is among those delegates who have no direct accountability to voters. Admittedly, she is entitled to count their support towards her claim to the nomination. But I don’t think that its fair for Billy to accuse you of generational warfare when you say that this is a poor foundation for a general election campaign.

Well Vince, denial of the English language is quite a feat. "Old white lady carries water for old white lady" isn't generational.

That "small group of superdelegates" by the way happens to be much bigger than our entire Congressional (both houses) delegation.

But if it doesn't float Obama's boat, it must not be fair. Perhaps we should call this Obbama's Razor.

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Jimmy Carter is a lovely man, but he was a failed President, a man who came to office with no idea of what he wanted to accomplish and no idea of how to get there- and it showed. He asked for his own Cabinet to resign, for God’s sake, was under siege almost constantly and the only plan he offered us was to turn down the thermostat, put on a sweater and despair.
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There is nothing that upsets me more than people who are willing to distort the facts to make their point. Whether this lie was born of ignorance or a desire to to support your candidate that over rode any allegence you might have to truth is anyone's guess. But no objective or rational observer could look at Carter's plan and claim it was simply, "turn down the thermostat, put on a sweater and despair." Whether one agrees with his proposal, as I do, or disagrees, it was clearly a sweeping comprehensive and fundamental change to to the way America was currently dealing with its energy problems. Here is Carter's plan.

Point one: I am tonight setting a clear goal for the energy policy of the United States. Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977 -- never. From now on, every new addition to our demand for energy will be met from our own production and our own conservation. The generation-long growth in our dependence on foreign oil will be stopped dead in its tracks right now and then reversed as we move through the 1980s, for I am tonight setting the further goal of cutting our dependence on foreign oil by one-half by the end of the next decade -- a saving of over 4-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day.

Point two: To ensure that we meet these targets, I will use my presidential authority to set import quotas. I'm announcing tonight that for 1979 and 1980, I will forbid the entry into this country of one drop of foreign oil more than these goals allow. These quotas will ensure a reduction in imports even below the ambitious levels we set at the recent Tokyo summit.

Point three: To give us energy security, I am asking for the most massive peacetime commitment of funds and resources in our nation's history to develop America's own alternative sources of fuel -- from coal, from oil shale, from plant products for gasohol, from unconventional gas, from the sun.

I propose the creation of an energy security corporation to lead this effort to replace 2-1/2 million barrels of imported oil per day by 1990. The corporation I will issue up to $5 billion in energy bonds, and I especially want them to be in small denominations so that average Americans can invest directly in America's energy security.

Just as a similar synthetic rubber corporation helped us win World War II, so will we mobilize American determination and ability to win the energy war. Moreover, I will soon submit legislation to Congress calling for the creation of this nation's first solar bank, which will help us achieve the crucial goal of 20 percent of our energy coming from solar power by the year 2000.

These efforts will cost money, a lot of money, and that is why Congress must enact the windfall profits tax without delay. It will be money well spent. Unlike the billions of dollars that we ship to foreign countries to pay for foreign oil, these funds will be paid by Americans to Americans. These funds will go to fight, not to increase, inflation and unemployment.

Point four: I'm asking Congress to mandate, to require as a matter of law, that our nation's utility companies cut their massive use of oil by 50 percent within the next decade and switch to other fuels, especially coal, our most abundant energy source.

Point five: To make absolutely certain that nothing stands in the way of achieving these goals, I will urge Congress to create an energy mobilization board which, like the War Production Board in World War II, will have the responsibility and authority to cut through the red tape, the delays, and the endless roadblocks to completing key energy projects.

We will protect our environment. But when this nation critically needs a refinery or a pipeline, we will build it.

Point six: I'm proposing a bold conservation program to involve every state, county, and city and every average American in our energy battle. This effort will permit you to build conservation into your homes and your lives at a cost you can afford.

I ask Congress to give me authority for mandatory conservation and for standby gasoline rationing. To further conserve energy, I'm proposing tonight an extra $10 billion over the next decade to strengthen our public transportation systems. And I'm asking you for your good and for your nation's security to take no unnecessary trips, to use carpools or public transportation whenever you can, to park your car one extra day per week, to obey the speed limit, and to set your thermostats to save fuel. Every act of energy conservation like this is more than just common sense -- I tell you it is an act of patriotism.

Hell yes! Thanks oceankat! Read it again folks and know once again the truth will set you free .... from the bullshit this hate filled post tries to sell. Young white girl loves to type ..... makes ass of self.

The Ferraro op-ed from yesterday was in my view really a straw man argument.... to keep the hillary forces going.

In the end, whether having superdelegates or not is a good idea, it will help us settle on a candidate and it's looking increasingly clear that the hillary forces simply cannot outmaneuver the process, and the supers are moving toward Obama already.

Most of history, even what you recount, is far more complex than any one story line suggests.

But there is no doubt that at this moment in history voters will insist on being heard and they will not endure that a small cadre of unelected party officials tries to swing the nomination against the candidate that has the best chance of winning.

Maybe the problem is not the superdelegates per se, but the fact that some superdelegates are not beholden to voters and thus not "representatives" of any specific constituency.

In the end we will be thankful that there is a group that will swing to the perceived winner and save party from a floor fight.

I agree with oceankat, by the way, that Jimmy Carter is underrated in some respects.

And I also agree - let us not imagine this is a generational issue going on here. Obama has many supporters in their 60's, their 70's, their 80's, and even their 90's. (more younger people blog, but we older folks love our chance to vote! And many of us see in Obama the candidate of a lifetime!)

Im surprised she didn't blame her Mondale/Ferraro loss and her son's drug conviction on Ted K.

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"If the best arguments that she can offer for her nomination are the anemic, fossilized, patronizing, alienating steaming piles of dung that Ms. Ferraro served up, then Dr. Dean should show Hillary Clinton, Geraldine Ferraro and the rest of the Geritol Gang to the door."

Great stuff! This aging baby boomer was furious at Ferraro's comments. Hillary Clinton seems to be increasingly 'Republican-lite' every day. In contrast, the more I learn of Barack Obama, the better I like him.

Excellent points, oceankat. While Carter's Presidency was ultimately unsuccessful, it is important to remember that he was not without his virtues. He brought greater transparency and accountability than had ever existed in the White House, he brokered an historic and long lasting peace between Egypt and Israel in the Middle East that survives to this day, and he was absolutely a visionary in the area of energy conservation, but was ridiculed and undermined by a GOP tied to the oil industry and other multinational corporatist interests, and thirsty for political victory at any cost. Karl Rove's predecessor and mentor, Lee Atwater, led a scorched earth negative campaign for Ronald Reagan, Paul Volker choked the economy with high interest rates, and we a 30 year nightmare of corporatist control swept away the progressive movement. While he was a progressive in relative terms, Bill Clinton did not fundamentally alter the trajectory of that course, perhaps because his intellect, charisma and brilliant governmental knowledge were too often overshadowed by his self-indulgence and recklessness, and who passed NAFTA and in other ways enabled the special corporatist interests to exert ever greater financial control our lives.

Misconceptions about Carter need to be attacked. It is a favorite Reagen era canard to exagerate how terrible a President Jimmy Carter was -- Ronald Reagan did more lasting harm to the US and the world than Carter, and the current administration brings new meaning to the words corruption, corporatism, hypocrisy amd irresponsibility. Thank you for printing his energy program, which, had it been followed, would have set an example for the world for which we would all have good reasn to be thankful

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At least Ms. Ferraro signed her post...

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Morning, VC - thanks for getting me up and writing.

Have a good day. Think your guy has it wrapped up - congrats.

http://strictlyanecdotal.com/2008/02/26/michelle-obama-crystallizes-my-view-point-about-the-obama-campaign.aspx

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