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An Evening with Karl Rove
George Bush’s approval ratings are at an all time low. The Democrats control not only Congress, but also the majority of state legislatures and governor’s mansions. The talk of a transformational Republican agenda – of winning over a generation of Latino voters by passing immigration reform and smashing the core of the Democratic base by privatizing parts of Social Security and Medicare – has ceased.
But Karl Rove soldiers on. Optimistic. Defiant. Unapologetic.
For those who have followed Rove’s career closely, the similarity of the new, post-White House Karl Rove to the old Karl Rove is not a surprise. From his earliest days as a political operative to the pinnacle of his power after the 2004 election, Rove has evidenced a remarkably consistent style. He gets into the details. He makes a plan and defends it to the end, consequences be damned. He relentlessly rains violence on his objective. He concedes nothing.
Upon leaving Washington in August of last year, Rove announced more modest intentions than he had coming into the White House. He planned, he said, to hit the speaking tour, “make some money,” and stay “on the political scene helping my friends.”
In addition to the speeches, Rove is a contributor on Fox News and has a column on the Wall Street Journal’s op-ed pages. He also hints that he is informally advising John McCain’s presidential campaign.
As a commentator, Rove is more a cheerleader for the Republican Party than a danger to Democrats. In fact, his articles are downright boring. Most of them explain why at any given moment things are bad for the Democrats and good for the Republicans.
Rove’s insightful analysis: the Democratic presidential candidates have had “a nasty race” whereas the Republicans had “a serious debate about serious issues.” Hillary Clinton “lacks her husband’s political gifts” and is “hard and brittle.” Barack Obama is “lazy” and “given to misstatements and exaggerations.” Rove’s most recent piece purports to reveal to readers Obama’s “new vulnerability.” A speech Obama gave in Houston on February 19th was apparently politically devastating, “distinctly non-centrist, even proudly left-wing.”
Inevitably there will be more of these neatly packaged Republican talking points disguised as “analysis” to come: Why the Democratic nominee for Vice President will hurt the ticket in November. Why the Democratic convention was a disaster compared to the Republican convention. Why this event or that is changing the race in a way that helps the Republican nominee.
Thankfully for Democrats, Rove, banished to the back of the newspaper, has been rendered pretty harmless these days. That is, unless you confront him on the lecture circuit.
Last week, I had the chance to watch Rove engage in some hand-to-hand combat in an appearance at the University of Pennsylvania.
Ivy League students are not exactly a sympathetic Karl Rove crowd. Outside the event, attendees were greeted by a small group of protestors urging impeachment – admittedly a relatively poor showing compared to some of the straight up riots that greeted Rove on college campuses during his White House years.
Inside the event, Rove was greeted with tepid applause and a series of hostile questions. It was a scene that has likely been repeated at universities across America: self-righteous, well-educated students taking their best shots at outwitting Bush’s Brain.
You could almost see it in their eyes, fantasizing about the headlines they might generate, if they could only get Rove to admit that he’s corrupt or that Republicans are evil.
The problem is that it seems impossible to catch him off guard. Rove has heard virtually every imaginable criticism of himself and the Bush Administration – and he’s prepared to answer. In fact, the great joy of Rove’s post-White House life is that he now gets paid more money to do what he loves most: spar with his antagonists.
Over the course of the evening, Rove exhibited a certain pattern of behavior. Greet him with a friendly question, expect a thoughtful discourse on some issue combined with a criticism of Democrats and/or the media. Greet him with a challenge, expect him to bare his teeth and lunge at your jugular.
Sometimes Rove unravels his opponent’s logic and flips it on its head or introduces new elements that not only evade the attack, but open up new lines of counterattack
Other times he just calls his interlocutors stupid or tells them that they’re on the side of the terrorists – or both. (“If you think the president doesn’t have the right to listen in on foreign terrorists, that’s fine. But frankly, with all due respect, it’s pretty stupid.”)
Rove considers himself a sort of “great white whale” and has referred to his critics as the Captain Ahabs who are after him. (Recall in the story who wins.)
“This may surprise you,” he told his audience early on, “but I’m sort of a feisty person.”
The first questioner at Penn set the tone for the evening by calling Rove a “cancer eating away our civil liberties.”
Needless to say, the questioner received supportive applause. And for a second it looked like some undergrad had just gotten away with telling off Karl Rove. Wow.
But Rove was immediately on the edge of his seat.
“Thank you for that thoughtful rant,” he said sarcastically. “Do you feel better?”
He paused for the laughter.
“I want you to feel good about yourself.”
Now there was growing applause. And it was for Rove. Turns out, this mob might not like Karl Rove, but they like a good fight and the Boy Genius was proving to be worth the $5 ticket price.
Leaving the plate: the civil liberties rant guy.
Next up: the Iraq guy.
Wasn’t the Bush Administration’s selling of the war in Iraq a “cynical manipulation”? (Fantasy headline: “Rove Shamed by Penn Sophomore, Admits Iraq War is Immoral”)
Rove was relishing this. He reached into a folder he had brought with him on stage and pulled out a sheet of paper. One by one, he read a series of quotes by “supporters of the Bush Administration” essentially arguing the case about the evils of Saddam Hussein and the threat of weapons of mass destruction.
Then came the coup de grace: “I think for you to say these comments, by Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, John Kerry, and Al Gore are a cynical manipulation to mislead the American people is unfair.”
I was close enough to the questioner to see his defeated expression as the crowd erupted. He lingered for a second, appearing to search for a clever retort, but finally just slinked away from the podium. If you’re going to go toe to toe with the Evil Genius, you have to do better than that.
The next questioner went for the low blow, asking about Bush’s mental capacity, or, more specifically, his pronunciation of the world “nuclear” as “nucular.” (Fantasy headline: “Rove Duped By Undergrad, Admits Bush is Stupid.”)
“I’m not sure I understand the import of your question,” Rove drawled, “Is it that he’s from Midland, Texas and doesn’t talk like people in the northeast?”
Having painted his opponent as an elitist snob, he let it hang there, the pause growing awkward.
The person sitting next to me whispered, “That girl looks like an idiot.”
This is the essence of the Rovian way. Take no prisoners. Stick to the message.
Rove has a fractal quality. On matters big and small, his responses are defined by a few basic structures which he recursively extends and applies to any question of politics or policy.
Asked about the 2000 election, he pivoted to the media. The real controversy, according to Rove, is that the media announces winners in East coast states before the West coast is done voting.
Asked about his alleged ruthlessness, Rove promised to “help end Barack Obama style politics,” which he characterized as underhanded.
Speaking before audiences who are unlikely to be as versed in the details of politics, Rove gleefully exaggerates, elides, and, occasionally, outright lies to his audience.
In the remaining hour of his Penn performance, Rove provided a ringing defense of wiretapping, increased presidential power, and Social security privatization. He also provided a critique of the “unproductive role” journalists play in elections.
The biggest impediment to health care: too many medical malpractice lawsuits.
On Social Security: “I’m going to be dead. Best of luck to the rest of you.”
And then there’s this scandal you’ve probably never heard of before. According to Rove, the Democratic Party is in a conspiracy with voter registration groups and inner city drug addicts to steal elections across the country.
The hits just kept on coming right through his closing remarks, in which he paid tribute to the amazing communication and debate of ideas at the White House. Even though no one brought up the groupthink and isolation of the Bush White House, Rove apparently deemed it a criticism important enough to debunk.
Always on the offensive, it was a fitting ending to a bravura performance.
Rove has joked that in his spare time he likes to “tear the tops off small animals.” That certainly seemed to be the case at Penn last week. But in Rove’s professional life, he focused his energy on hunting big game. Among his prizes: Ann Richards, Max Cleland, Tom Daschle, and John Kerry.
Despite these victories, Rove failed to accomplish his most ambitious goal of building a dominant Republican governing coalition that would last for decades.
Rove’s destiny went unfulfilled in large part because he was overrated as an architect. The political edifice he erected was built on a shaky foundation and made of shoddy materials. More importantly, his architectural aspirations were undermined by his real talent as a demolition artist. Rove’s legacy is not in what he built, but in who he tore down – mainly, his opponents.
And in his new life after the White House, he’s still at it.







Comments (14)
Rove is laughing all the way to the bank.
The "genius" of Rove is that, for him, all of political discourse is entertainment for the masses while you do things in smoke-filled back rooms.
It doesn't take a genius, though, to break a system.
It does take a genius to see things clearly. And by that measure, Rove is no genius.
Here is a recent article detailing how Rove couldn't read political tea leaves any better than Rumsfeld could read military plans:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200709/karl-rove
It may give you the satisfaction you didn't get in the auditorium.
February 26, 2008 12:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great post Julie! Something tells me we haven't heard the last of this fake voter fraud claim about drug addicts in inner cities (No doubt they will attempt to flip Barack's "community organizing" on its head and into an epithet):
"""""And then there’s this scandal you’ve probably never heard of before. According to Rove, the Democratic Party is in a conspiracy with voter registration groups and inner city drug addicts to steal elections across the country."""""
February 26, 2008 3:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
Great post. Welcome to the buzz-saw. These are the guys we'll be running against, and unlike 2006 they won't have to run with Bush as half burden, and most of the Republican scandals from 2006 and 2007 are now forgotten.
February 26, 2008 4:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Excellent post. Thanks. ♪♪♪
February 26, 2008 11:52 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rove: sadism, pure and simple.
February 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
It is no wonder he thinks of himself as a genius. He is used to being surrounded by half & full fools. He knows that he'll never get a question above Journalism 101 level and that most won't invalidate his meassage because they don't understand what makes a valid/invalid arguement.
I really enjoyed your description of the Rove cause & effect.
February 26, 2008 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
agree with most of the things in this article except that rove is less harmless now that he's out of the white house
truth is he's more dangerous than ever and has lots of spare time to spread his lies
February 26, 2008 4:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sure, but nobody but liberals are listening anymore...
case in point, who are the two Republicans left in the race?
Hint: Neither one was endorsed by the right-wing.
The right-wingers are dying, Rove knows it, that's why he's making money while he can. He's pulling a Ann Coulter.
February 26, 2008 5:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wait, people paid $5 to listen to Rove insult them?
Wow, people really are stupid. I'll insult you for free.
February 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but I bet Rove is willing to don some leather as well.
February 26, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
To call Rove a genius is to insult real geniuses. he was nothing but a rather talented character assassin. the lead hired gun of whatever campaign he was working on. let's not accord him with more than he doesn't deserve. sorta like according Al Qaeda as world-class bogeymen that are lurking around every corner just waiting, at every single moment, to destroy us since they 'hate our freedoms'. it sells better, to the masses, if it's overstated, overblown, overdone. so Rove is given more cachet than he deserves. if 50 plus 1 is always the strategy for winning then i wouldn't hire turdblossom. i'd ignore him.
February 26, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
turdblossom's a good one
who knows karl rove better than george bush? yet he was the one who came up with the nickname calling rove something that only can grow when in a pile of crap
February 26, 2008 11:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
No one hates Karl Rove more than John McCain. The fact that his campaign is talking to Rove only proves what a genius he is. We can take shots at him all all we want -- but we do it because he's so effective.
February 26, 2008 11:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
The argument will be lost on Karl, but he is one great figure in the Reagan/Bush/Gingrich era, responsible for leading us to our New American Century - the one where the USA tries its hand at being a rogue state, overextends its military and bankrupts its treasury.
What would "turning the page" on this stain in our history be like?
This "back to the future" moment is courtesy of FDR - first inaugural address:
"...our distress comes from no failure of substance. We are stricken by no plague of locusts. Compared with the perils which our forefathers conquered because they believed and were not afraid, we have still much to be thankful for... Plenty is at our doorstep, but a generous use of it languishes in the very sight of the supply. Primarily this is because the rulers of the exchange of mankind's goods have failed, through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence, have admitted their failure, and abdicated. Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men.
True they have tried, but their efforts have been cast in the pattern of an outworn tradition. Faced by failure of credit they have proposed only the lending of more money. Stripped of the lure of profit by which to induce our people to follow their false leadership, they have resorted to exhortations, pleading tearfully for restored confidence. They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers. They have no vision, and when there is no vision the people perish.
The money changers have fled from their high seats in the temple of our civilization. We may now restore that temple to the ancient truths. The measure of the restoration lies in the extent to which we apply social values more noble than mere monetary profit.
Happiness lies not in the mere possession of money; it lies in the joy of achievement, in the thrill of creative effort. The joy and moral stimulation of work no longer must be forgotten in the mad chase of evanescent profits. These dark days will be worth all they cost us if they teach us that our true destiny is not to be ministered unto but to minister to ourselves and to our fellow men.
Recognition of the falsity of material wealth as the standard of success goes hand in hand with the abandonment of the false belief that public office and high political position are to be valued only by the standards of pride of place and personal profit; and there must be an end to a conduct in banking and in business which too often has given to a sacred trust the likeness of callous and selfish wrongdoing. Small wonder that confidence languishes, for it thrives only on honesty, on honor, on the sacredness of obligations, on faithful protection, on unselfish performance; without them it cannot live. "
February 27, 2008 12:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
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