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Adios Cafe
It's gone. If this ever shows, it'll be a major miracle. Sorry, Andrew, but you might as well diss the Cafe and put the front pagers somewhere else.
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It's gone. If this ever shows, it'll be a major miracle. Sorry, Andrew, but you might as well diss the Cafe and put the front pagers somewhere else.
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Comments (15)
Get your butt back here! For the 55th time since we underwent the apocalypse, just hang in here!
My blogs won't show up at all. How long did it take this one to appear?
Linus sends his best woofs.
February 8, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
My patience is worn out. I'm just gonna chill and see how it all shakes out. I'm taking this stuff too seriously. Woof, Woof!! As always, double, no, make that triple treats all around. :-)
February 8, 2008 9:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
My patience is worn out. I'm just gonna chill and see how it all shakes out. I'm taking this stuff too seriously, and it ain't worth the effort (trying to post this, I had three hoops to jump through; the fun is gone). Woof, Woof!! As always, double, no, make that triple treats all around. :-)
February 8, 2008 9:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
See what I mean?
February 8, 2008 9:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm hangin', just not gonna post much, if at all. I have my doubts the old forum will return, and it takes an old fart awhile to adapt, especially when he ain't much inclined to do so. I got my comfort zone and just gotta find it again ;-)
February 8, 2008 9:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seriously, it's disconcerting. I see very few names I recognize posting reader blogs. Yours is the first I've seen in a day or so. It's like sudeenly being transferred to a new school due to redistricting. You some faces you recognize but many more that you don't. You're unsure what the norms are with the new kids. You fit in well in the old school, and you're sorta hanging back waiting to see what the new rules are. You're observing in hopes to adapt, but you're frustrated because it's all new. Make some sense? Anyway, I over analyze and think too much.
February 8, 2008 9:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dear Glenn,
I don’t know if you have ever experienced a stand of redwood trees. No matter the time of year, the space between these majestic behemoths is always cool and fragrantly moist. It is impossible to see up into the sky to capture the full expanse of their individual stature. They are like a gathering of gods. Standing at their feet, stroking their velveteen bark and trying to gauge the measure of their girth, one is made to feel like a forest pixy.
I mention this because while we “backbenchers” find ourselves in amongst the tall trees of serious commentators now, there is no reason why we can not continue to gather in the open spaces, whispering our little secrets and singing our little ditties. We may be the children of a lesser god, but a forest without pixies is a lonely place.
Don’t go.
February 8, 2008 9:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
My Adios Cafe was not me bidding good-bye to the Cafe and leaving but saying good-bye to the Cafe that was.
"I mention this because while we “backbenchers” find ourselves in amongst the tall trees of serious commentators now, there is no reason why we can not continue to gather in the open spaces, whispering our little secrets and singing our little ditties. We may be the children of a lesser god, but a forest without pixies is a lonely place."
I like that. I'll continue to linger, as a spirit that is loathe to leave a special place even after its passing. Thanks.
February 8, 2008 10:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Glenn, come on over to the temporary forum I set up. The back benchers can chill there for a while until (if) the Cafe gets less buggy.
http://www.projectlucidity.com/forum
I'm pretty much done with post here for a while, too. No point in commenting, either, because I either can't get my comments to show up or I can't read other comments. Frustrating.
February 8, 2008 10:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks. I'll check it out.
February 8, 2008 10:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I guess I'm in the same wait and see.
Not even a crappy little text editor. I remember when Andrew started. He was gonna kick ass and take names to right the listing craft on the last changeover to a new system. That was when the Cafe was not part of media consolidation........
So someone decides to take a flyer on untested code, like, over Christmas? New Years? Noooo... let's wait until all the campaign junkies need their biggest fixes and our servers are hot to the touch.
Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket.
Alphonse
February 8, 2008 10:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
As Horace Rumpole would put it, “Thanks old darling.” I take your meaning and as Horace would often quote Milton so shall I “They also serve who only stand and wait.”
February 8, 2008 10:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
I emailed Andrew today, asking about our archived writings. He assures me they are still existing and will be recovered.
I am still unpersuaded that this change will be to our benefit. The situation seems to be that TPM had been heading toward different software for its main page, muckraker, and election page. The Cafe was a rump site running on different software and a messy kludged interface to TPM. So the change was for eliminating impediments to TPM.
That it would involve different features was presented as "adding" blog recommendation and such. That the tracking and "new" indications would be lost was not mentioned at all. Josh has said on my blog that some of that might come back if they can afford it. Sounds like a permanent delay to me.
I note that my analysis of wider instead of deep is evidenced by "The Shuster Thing", george, today. Starts with "This is my first post here.." So TPM gets new posters. And lots---Ellen found 76 went up in 36 hours. And here's something to consider: Lacking tracking means we have to spend longer to recover a conversation, so we spend longer here, period. Might look good to advertisers, since time-on-site is a new point being pushed around the web. Kind of like rearranging the shelves at your grocery---you take longer, maybe buy new stuff.
There have been previous changes, and the biggest one happened with us in the loop. TPM and the Cafe switched to a new server, but let the site run for a couple of weeks unpublished, with trusted users taking it for a test drive. That was when they needed us, I guess. Then a more recent change that had TPM going to the white-page look crowded out the Discussion Tables, so they got less profile and traffic. We all gravitated to the blogs, wading through crap like merman1983 to find our friends.
And now, we may come back but it will be at Josh's convenience, of course. Dang.
February 8, 2008 11:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
From the loss of so much functionality, I get the feeling the Cafe is/was the red headed stepchild. The Reader Blogs and the Discussion Tables, I beleive, were the main draw for Cafe denizens. You get stuff like what's on the front page in many places. The back rooms were where we visitors could participate on a higher level. But, it's their nickel.
February 8, 2008 11:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
I feel your pain. I've decided to log in on occassion until things are sorted out ( & I generally use my iPhone which makes all this far worse).
Maybe this was a no-choice move but I would have expected a smooth transition. (get a refund of some kind guys!)
February 9, 2008 3:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
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