justcallmetrinit
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This is a crock. You forgot the 19 year old college student who just registered but accidentally washed their voting card and all supporting ID's that they left in their jeans! Statistically speaking that could happen too. YWhy would someone be less likely to find their legitimate ID on election day? Does the house go dark? Do they wear blinders? Did goblins come in during the night and reorganize every thing? Did they just wake up from a nearly 4 year (or 2 year) slumber and can't remember where they laid their wallet? I am sure you can find an elderly person who can't remember to get dressed during the day but to attribute that characteristic in a sweeping fashion to argue against having a legitimate ID to prove you are who you say are when it comes time to vote is ludicrous.
Posted at May 4, 2008 2:02 AM in response to Supreme Court tilts election, big time
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In the limited case in Indiana it may not have been added but it is NOT hypothetical and the catch is that to prove it you must have the slighted person AND the injuring party at the same time. Other than that, in the eyes of the responsible controlling authority it appears to be a case of an upset voter arguing to vote "again".
So you would agree that that situation can not happen because why? Obviously if a person had to provide identification the chances of fraud are far less. If there is a desire to have every vote count, shouldn't the desire also be to have every legal, and only legal votes count?
Why is the statistic of 11 percent of people have no ID taken for granted? How is that possible? Every 18-25 year old male is required to register with Selective Service. They don't require a SSN but must register (ID???). To obtain a drivers license requires an ID. To get a bank account requires an ID. To travel to any other part of the world and on virtually every form of transportation requires an ID. To get your Social Security payments you must prove you are who you say you are. Most cities require you to register your pets for crying out loud. Yet some one is saying that 1 out of every 10 Americans do not have ID. That is suspicious.
Posted at May 4, 2008 1:42 AM in response to Supreme Court tilts election, big time
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After reading the Moyer article again I see the justification that Moyer would like us to understand and sob hysterically because no one other than black men have suffered so and therefore should be able to shout hatred and repeat half-truths and lies in such a manner as to summon up hatred from his parishioners to direct it at an entity that he personally reviles against. If that is the only way Wright can teach, than of course it is his right to do so. For anyone to think that that type of message is helpful to his parishioners or to the individuals his parishioners interact with then you should consider the same type message was used by other evil men in high political positions with dreams of grandeur. Hate others because it is their fault you are in the position you are in. They have done wrong(true or not true, but it doesn't really matter to the person giving the message) and therefore it is acceptable to hate them and to seek a way to undermine them. They will continue to hurt you and you shouldn't take that from them. Now the "they" that was referred to is not an original theme and has been applied to the Jewish people numerous times and to blacks from the times of the War between the States. Very simply, the message is destructive and self-serving. It should not be accepted and it should not be tolerated just because a Bill Moyer spun a sad justification tale around it. Or maybe he would like to provide some sound reasoning as to why Achmedinajad would like to eradicate Israel?
Posted at May 4, 2008 1:08 AM in response to Bill Moyers NAILS IT!!! Thank you, Bill!
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Why does no one see the bigger picture? Fifty years ago, or even less, white religious figures stood in the pulpit and denounced integration, preached hatred to any and every other race and intentionally caused dissension amongst white people who grew up learning no better. Eventually most of white America grew up and learned that was evil. We now see a preacher standing up in a pulpit and preaching,,,,,,hatred and spinning ignorant lies to their flock. And a person who stayed with his church for 20 years is attempting to become president. Whether disagree or agree he gave tacit silent approval to Wright's rants and only when the heat was too much did he reject him. I do not carry over Wright's sins to Obama, I question Obama's fortitude, or desire, to speak out against world leaders rants when they call for the destruction of Israel or America. Will he agree with them and add his approval with silence?
Posted at May 4, 2008 12:42 AM in response to Bill Moyers NAILS IT!!! Thank you, Bill!
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It is interesting that "progressives" howl at the decision of the Supreme Court for a multitude of reasons when the natural advancement of computer systems and identity tracking software would eventually lead us to this point. If it were not for a history of ballot box stuffing and other nefarious methods of tilting an election one way or another (both parties are guilty) then this argument would not be here at this time and place. Arguing that this decision gives an advantage to Republicans is silly. Every individual is able to acquire an ID (why in this post-9/11 world would we not expect this minimum requirement?). Every person who walks in to a voting booth need only prove they are registered and that they are who they say they are. Does this not also preserve the right of the individual who is slighted when an "underpriveleged" person walks into the voting area and gives false information in order to vote. Why would the "underpriveleged" need to fake it in the first place unless of course they were voting for a certain party at numerous localities? This decision merely starts the cheating at a different point for the parties.
I DO take offense at including illegal aliens in the 11 percent of Americans statistic claiming they have no ID. There is no way that 1 in 10 people who are here legally do not have identification.Posted at May 2, 2008 8:51 PM in response to Supreme Court tilts election, big time



