Oskie has won this thread...

Posted at August 21, 2008 2:29 PM in response to McCain Camp Responds On Houses Gaffe: He Was A POW!

I would be more pissed about being compared to Jerry Brown than Jesse Jackson

:)

Posted at May 29, 2008 6:54 PM in response to Obama's Race Baiting Speaks for Itself, as Josh Marshall Would Say

Airwon,

Your basic premise if false. You said:
"Obama’s basic message is that all of America is unhappy with Washington and that we should vote for him because he represents change."

That is at half-true statement, which makes it false. Americans are unhappy with Washington, that is an indisputable fact. However, that we should only vote for him because he is change is a statement that you made because you are a) uniformed or b) being intellectually dishonest.

There were 13 Democratic candidates 6 months ago and now there are two. All candidates ran on the "change" platform, and all have strong positions that spell out what change means for them. For those that take the time to study all of the candidates, they see that all have opinions and ideas on how to accomplish "change".

As a white guy who was born and raised in the rural south, with family still in the rural south, that now lives in Los Angeles, I completely understand what Obama was saying. He was telling a bunch of elites that people rural parts of the country are bitter because they have been screwed by the government for 30 years. He told this crowd of people that could tell the difference between Pennsylvania and Ohio that the reason that these rural voters cling to these stereotypes that they have these voters is because they are losing ground in so many other places in their life. Obama was trying to explain to this crowd in elite San Francisco why wedge issues work in place like Pennsylvania and Ohio.

And ya know what, Obama nailed it. He was honest and respects those voters in Penn and Ohio enough to understand why they are leery to vote for him.

Also, if you don't believe that god, guns, gays and illegals aren't prime topics of conversation in these areas, you need to get out more. I spent a great deal of time in the rust belt and those are the issues that come up in conversation everywhere I have been.

This bitterness isn't a white only issue. Spend time in poor urban America and blacks and latinos feel the same bitterness.

Posted at April 12, 2008 3:27 PM in response to Hillary Hits Obama's Small Town Comments Again: "Elitist And Out Of Touch"

Here is what he said right after that...

"The truth is that these traditions that are passed on from generation to generation those are important. That's what sustains us. But what is absolutely true is that people don't feel like they are being listened to.

"And so they pray and they count on each other and they count on their families. You know this in your own lives, and what we need is a government that is actually paying attention. Government that is fighting for working people day in and day out making sure that we are trying to allow them to live out the American dream."

Posted at April 12, 2008 2:59 PM in response to Hillary Hits Obama's Small Town Comments Again: "Elitist And Out Of Touch"

What was dumb about Obama's statement?

People are angry and bitter? Telling a bunch of insulted Bay area people that out in places like Pennsylvania and Ohio, people are bitter because they have been left behind by the government?

I don't see the gaffe.

Posted at April 11, 2008 6:59 PM in response to Hillary Hits Obama: "Pennsylvanians Don't Need A President Who Looks Down On Them"

"As I travel around Pennsylvania, I meet people who are resilient, who are optimistic, who are positive, who are rolling up their sleeves. They are working hard everyday for a better future, for themselves and their children."

Sorry and you can ban me for this, but this sound Bush-esque to me.

The whole idea of "Gosh, I just lost my job and my house is about to be foreclosed on, but at least we have each other" perception is so off the mark.

Kudos to Obama for coming out and saying that people pissed.

Posted at April 11, 2008 6:57 PM in response to Hillary Hits Obama: "Pennsylvanians Don't Need A President Who Looks Down On Them"

Wow.

Reading this, I just got a Google ad to "Meet Single Arabs Online" and the lass in the picture is definately not wearing a Burka!!! She is definately something that could bring Jewish and Muslim could agree on.

Gotta love the Google....

Posted at April 10, 2008 3:15 PM in response to LA Times Today: Obama Not To Be Trusted, Doesn't Hate Arabs!!

$163,840.00 is about .001% of Obama's total donations. He will definately be beholden to the oil industry

Posted at April 9, 2008 6:13 PM in response to New Hillary Ad: Obama Only Takes On Oil Companies "On TV"

A couple of thoughts...

1) The big state argument is hollow. Any dem will win California and New York. HRC will NOT win Florida. Pennsylvania and Ohio are toss ups, so the better ground game will have the best chance to win those states.

2) The media needs to get a hobby. Obama will not get 100% of the vote. There will be blacks that will vote for McCain instead of Obama, just like there would be women that would vote for McCain over HRC. Find a couple of white dems that say that they won't vote for Obama is not a story.

Posted at April 9, 2008 3:47 PM in response to Wavering on Obama