You can't believe Hillary on any of her positions. You have to know where she's coming from. She's coming from the DLC and they are pro-war, pro-corporate. Their "positions" usually involve throwing some insignificant bone at the working class like the stupid gas tax holiday while they sell them out to the extortionist credit card industry when they aren't looking.

Hillary's been on this rant about fighting for the little guy. Like when did she ever fight for the little guy?!

Posted at May 11, 2008 2:35 PM in response to How Hillary lost this liberal

The problem goes beyond Hillary. Ever since the 2004 election the DLC has been frantic to recruit "NASCAR Dads", i.e., that same white bigot vote you've been talking about because they need another demographic to support their neocon foreign policy. They figured African Americans wouldn't notice. The last thing they expected was a candidate like Obama inadvertantly exposing the strategy. Basically, the DLC wanted to run against their own party, recruit Republicans and foist on Americans two political parties united in support of perpetual war with working class whites and African Americans for cannon fodder.

Posted at May 11, 2008 2:28 PM in response to Hillary' so-called blue-collar strategy

If I haven't yet mentioned all the reasons for defeating Hillary, getting McAuliffe off pundit news is one more.

Posted at May 11, 2008 11:57 AM in response to McAuliffe Says Clinton Would Accept 50% of FL and MI

Beyond all the policy differences I have with Hillary, it's obvious listening to even the stodgiest Sunday pundits that they're all sick of Hillary too. The country just plain wants to turn the page. The last 8 years have been dismal. The 8 years prior to that were divisive. Hillary may despise it, but the frame for 2008 is Move On.

Posted at May 11, 2008 11:27 AM in response to How Hillary lost this liberal

I guess he didn't get Hillary's message - Iowa doesn't count.

Posted at May 10, 2008 7:45 PM in response to McCain Airing New Ad On The Economy in Iowa

Let me assure whites and blacks that I am not voting for Obama because of his race. My vote is purely a vote against Hillary Clinton. I'd have voted for any of the other white guys who were running against her too.

Posted at May 10, 2008 1:25 PM in response to Are some voters voting Obama because they are WHITE?

I also note that Mr. Herbert figures it time for some payback. He's opened the Clinton's closet and is starting to air out some of those old scandals.

Posted at May 10, 2008 11:58 AM in response to Bob Herbert says Clinton Wins !!!!

Many if not most people are pretty easily lead. They can be easily lead by fear, bigotry, custom, culture, or by what their family, friends and neighbors tell them to do. I know my 87 year old mother would by inclination not vote for Obama and whether she would admit it or not, it would be because of his race. I also know that she can be influenced and if my brother and I and others tell her we are voting for Obama she may well go along and overcome her natural inclination.

What is appalling about the Clinton campaign is how they have affirmed people in their cultural fears and customs and in effect told them that it is A-OK to choose not to vote for Obama and to choose not to vote for Obama because they are white and he is black. Since the Clintons are party elders and do have considerable influence as opinion leaders, they could have taken the opposite course.

Posted at May 10, 2008 11:44 AM in response to The Vast Majority Of Working Class Americans Will Not Vote For Senator Obama In The Fall

When you say "working class" and don't divide them by black and white, I'm not sure how you are dividing them from the rest of us but since class is often as much about culture as income, these same voters would be targeted by the Republicans with similar wedge issues if Hillary were the nominee. She won't escape Wellesley, Yale elitism. She'd be the radical feminist babykiller. She'd be the uppity woman trying to wear the pants in the family. There is an endless list of the same old same old wedge issues that will be used against any Democrat man, woman, black or white.

Until Democrats can give working class voters a positive reason to vote for them, these wedge issues will work. At least Obama gets this. Whether he can deliver on it after the Clintons have tried so hard to obscure that positive message is certainly a question.

But see Bob Herbert's column in the NYT today. Payback begins. The Clinton scandals are not far back in the closet. They would get plenty of air if she were to be the nominee.

Posted at May 10, 2008 9:26 AM in response to The Vast Majority Of Working Class Americans Will Not Vote For Senator Obama In The Fall

I'm a bit worried about that actually. Now that she's burned her bridges with the left and African Americans she might turn into another Lieberman.

Posted at May 9, 2008 8:37 PM in response to Please help Hillary STAY in the Senate!