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In September 2007, before the release of the 2007 National Intelligence Estimate on Iran, I wrote an article for Salon titled "Why Bush Won't Bomb Iran."

At the time, the belief that George Bush and Dick Cheney would take military action against Iran was palpable. When I wrote my piece which was based on a great number of discussions with intelligence analysts, military brass, and others in the national security bureaucracy, I was temporarily vilified by voices on the left and the neoconservative right for popping the bubble of their deterministic obsession that the US was on its way to bombing Iran.

While some of the terrain has changed in the nearly three years since that article was written, much has remained the same.

The many unknowables and unexpected consequences of adding another hot war to America's rather full plate of hot conflicts around the world remains the same. Iran, which clearly can dial up or dial down the activities of its transnational terrorist networks has them on low simmer at this point. An attack against Iran would probably blow this control valve off -- resulting in a terrorist superhighway running from Iran through Iraq into Jordan and Syria right toward Israel. This network would also unleash itself against allied Arab state governments in the region and also cause havoc against US forces and affiliates in Iraq and Afghanistan.

These problems were there three years ago and remain today.

On top of this, despite the confidence, even eagerness, of the US Air Force to bomb Iran's nuclear program capacity, the other military services are not so sanguine and fear that the logistics demands for such a military action and its followup would undermine other major operations. In other words, adding another major obligation to America's military roster could literally break the back of the US military, erode morale, and result in eventual, massive shifts in American domestic support for the US military machine which had become increasingly costly and less able to generate the security deliverables expected.

And thus, the likelihood -- despite whatever Iran may or may not do as it pursues various nuclear options -- is that the Department of Defense itself will find itself tied in knots during any new strategic review or decision to take overt military action against Iran.

Then there is the question of Iran's seeming desire to be attacked. As David Frum has commented and written, one should pause a bit before actually doing what Iran's theocratic elites seem to be inviting. Frum and I recently agreed that an attack on Iran would give Ahmadinejad, the hard right clan around Ayatollah Khamenei and the most despotic, anti-reformist wings of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard exactly what they need to further consolidate their political hold today. Given the contested election and turmoil among Iran's top elites and other strong internal tensions inside Iran's political system, the leadership today does not enjoy a strongly consolidated position. Bombing Iran would solve this for Iran's current leadership.

Other consequences of action against Iran are that it may increase by an order of magnitude the global doubt that already exists about America's ability to generate new and better outcomes in the international system. In the eyes of many nations around the world, the deployment of military force is a desperate act, not an act of confidence -- and usually not an act that will generate desired, predicted outcomes. China and Russia, no matter the relative warmth of relations today, will likely veto any UN Resolution endorsing military action against Iran -- and will wait on the sidelines to see what the outcome will be of a military action that doesn't receive a stamp of approval from the global body.

As others have written, Iran may find itself the beneficiary of sympathy reactions, that it doesn't deserve, from other states around the world including Russia and China that see its natural gas and oil reserves as something to attach themselves to as American power, perhaps unleashed against Iran, actually punctuates the end of American hegemony over oil and energy resources in the Middle East.

I could add perhaps another dozen or so likely nightmare outcomes and downsides for the US and allies if Iran were attacked -- the most serious of which is that such an attack would at most delay Iran's capacity to acquire a nuclear warhead, which today is still questionable, and turn it into a certainty. In other words, Iran may be pursuing a latent nuclear option, basically like Japan, in which it has the capacity to produce warheads but elects to stay on the edge of that capacity. Bombing Iran could assure in the future that it acquires these weapons -- and in such a case, Iran's security paranoia, used to justify so much of its erratic behavior and posture, is validated.

So, even after bombing Iran, we end up with a nuclear armed, pissed-off Iran. While I think great states, including Iran, operate mostly through carefully considered strategic calculus, such is not always the case -- and Iran's chances of emotion-led behavior or vengefulness, or accidents, increase.

This is the worst box to end up in any theoretic assessment of outcomes with Iran.

And others in the Obama administration also know that bombing or not bombing Iran is not a binary proposition with neat and clean outcomes on either side. The security of circumstances of Israel and the view that many on the Arab street will have that their own governments may have acquiesced to Israel's security preferences without getting anything in ending the humiliation of their Palestinian brothers puts every government in the Arab League at risk.

I think that there are many things that can yet be done to change the incentive structure of the Iranian political leadership and either seduce or cajole its leaders into a more internationally acceptable course -- and all of these should be tried and put on the table before the potentially cataclysmic course of adopting the Iran War option.

While there are individuals in the Obama administration who are flirting with the possibility of military action against Iran, they are fewer in number than existed in the Bush administration. They are surrounded by a greater number of realists who are working hard to find a way to reinvent America's global leverage and power -- and who realize that a war with Iran ends that possibility and possibly spells an end to America presuming to be the globally predominant power it has been.

There are also political opportunists in the Obama administration -- who after a horrible year of relations between the President and Israeli Prime Minister -- want to spin the deep tensions over Israel-Palestine away long enough to get through the next set of 2010 elections.

There are many who worry too much that Obama's recent highly scripted, positive, buddy-buddy encounter with Benjamin Netanyahu means that the United States is acquiescing to Israel's view of Iran, of settlements, and of the world.

This would be a misread of the situation. Come December 2010, my hunch is that all of those who have recently placed faith in a White House posture of Israel uber alles will be as disappointed in the Obama White House as many other interest groups have been who thought that Obama would deliver on their single issue.

In this case, Obama will stick to script and offer a similar line as Ariel Sharon once offered after being criticized by his supporters on Israel's unilateral withdrawal from Gaza: "One has to weigh many different options in determining our nation's security needs Things look different when sitting behind the Prime Minister's desk."

This will be true for Barack Obama as well -- who knows that there is no winning outcome for the US and its allies if he chooses a military course with Iran, even if some of his team seem to enjoy flirting with that option.

-- Steve Clemons publishes the popular political blog, The Washington Note, is editor-at-large at Talking Points Memo, and Clemons can be followed on Twitter @SCClemons


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Good points, particularly the notion that Ahmadinejad and Khamenei desperately want to be given the opportunity to consolidate their power. Given the unpopular sentiment toward the current regime by a huge chunk of Iranians, being able to play the "woe is us" card in the event of a Western attack is exactly what the leadership in Tehran wants, or even needs.

My question would be, what if the U.S. actually backed off slightly and gave Tehran a little more wiggle room? In other words, if the West were to afford Khamenei a little more responsibility (in terms of its nuclear capacity), would his government be able to handle that burden, or would it be its ultimate undoing? Not even China and Russia could withhold support of military action if Tehran betrayed such confidence invested in them.

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Thanks again for the sober evaluation. If bombing Iran was too crazy for Bush, it certainly isn't going to happen under Obama.

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I question your questioning of Iran having the capacity to make a bomb.

I see that as inevitable in a year or two at most. Otherwise I tend to agree with you.

Anyhow, why do you describe the Airforce as "eager" to engage itself. I've long heard that the Airforce of the major services are riddled with Messianic Christianists who see the end times coming.

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Having a capacity is pretty weak language. Steve didn't say capability, so I'll give him a pass.

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Because it has the potential to lead to Israel being attacked, and certain sects of the "End Times" believers think that Israel being attacked means the Rapture is imminent.

So, yeah. Iran being bombed would actually work in their favor there. (Note: I am in no way advocating this. Just offering a view point.)

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Seeing as Obama has demonstrated very poor judgement regarding our two imperialist adventures in the Muslim world, why should anyone have any confidence he won't double down and bomb Iran too? Obama has done well beyond Bush's bad decisions in a number of key areas, for example, he has gone much further in prosecuting whistleblowers and he has vastly expanded domestic spying. Why wouldnt' he be foolish enough to bomb Iran while he's playing emperor? Attacking Iran is very clearly a stupid idea that would end very, very badly for the US but so is staying in Afghanistan and Iraq and continuing to spend close to a trillion dollars annually on the pentagon but you don't see that stopping Obama do ya?

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Maybe he'll do us all a favor and just bomb you instead.

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Bombing (intellectual) rubble would be a waste of munitions.

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"Obama right or wrong! Obama right or wrong!Check your mind at the door and follow dear leader! Ask no questions! Stop thinking for yourself! Obama can do no wrong! Obama can do no wrong!"

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"Obama wrong! Obama wrong! Check your mind at the door and don't follow dear leader! Ask no questions! Stop thinking for yourself! Obama can do no right! Obama can do no right!"

Makes just about as much sense...

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Incorrect as you well know stilli as you have in the past noted I give him credit where credit is due. He just isn't due much credit since he's essentially flip flopped on every major issue he campaigned on.

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I can recall once, oleeb. I doubt he has only done one good thing...

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"Obama right or wrong! Obama right or wrong!Check your mind at the door and follow dear leader! Ask no questions! Stop thinking for yourself! Obama can do no wrong! Obama can do no wrong!"

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This is why I have little, if any, confidence in anything you say about Obama. You not only criticize him relentlessly for perceived wrongs, but you criticize in advance for things he hasn't even done yet.

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Again, you are suffering from selective memory as I give him credit where it is due. He has performed terribly as President. He has reneged on most major promises he made--not just failed to accomplish them--he has flip flopped. It is frustrating to you that I don't give him a pass and don't trust him and I'm sorry you continue to be gullible on that score, but please don't sink to dishonesty.

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I don't monitor the boards 24/7, oleeb. I can only go by what I see. I remember you giving him lukewarm kudos, once, and I gave you kudos for that, acknowledging that I could longer say "you NEVER" have anything nice to say about him. Based on what I have seen, your overwhelming MO is to be grossly critical of him. If you did say something sorta nice about him more than once, my comments still do not rise to the level of dishonesty, merely being under-informed.

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Juvenile deliquent half-wits like Oleeb were in diapers the last time there was such a thing as powerful and relevant radical activism in America. Their concept of politics is as a game of childish insults. Oleeb longs for a Sarah Palin-like principal to come on to his grade schol playground and bust his misbehaving ass so that then he can show off by shouting his most recently-learned cuss words at her.

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You know, I'm really starting to appreciate what the ancient Greeks meant by the "thanatos" impulse. As our nation finds it ever more difficult to solve our problems, we have an entire peanut gallery who believe that creating even more conflict will lead to a good outcome.

Amazing.

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MB, I would suggest distinguishing (a) (i) the peanut gallery from the (ii) the on-stage puppets and (iii) the puppet-string pullers, and (b) the Greek words 'Thanatos' and 'Ego' i.e. the latter being the more powerful force motivating the string pullers.

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I keep hearing you guys taking about his supposed expansion of domestic spying over what Bush did, but I'll be damned if I know what you're talking about.

I'm not attacking. I'm asking you to tell me what you've been reading, and where you've been reading it, that you obviously think the rest of us have read even if we haven't.

Yeah, I admit it. I haven't read everything.

And I'm really not interested in just randomly googling and trying to guess what you all mean. So help a brother out, here and drop me some links.

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Check out this week's Washington Post on the front page on the secret government. That's a good start.

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I agree with Steve, and would only add that the chairman of the joint chiefs is currently an admiral who is undoubtedly aware that Iran has the capability to sink US naval ships if it were attacked.

This would be in addition to the other actions it might take: blocking the Hormuz Strait, stepping up attacks on US troops in Iraq, missiles from Iran and Lebanon into Israel, jacking up the price of oil, possibly involving China and Russia, etc.

The principal problem the US has with Iran, of course, other than the incessant Israeli whining, is not with any nuclear worries but that thanks to misguided US policies Iran has not only become a regional hegemon, Iran has also moved more into an orbit with Russia and China, two not-so-favorite US rivals.

Of course the best strategy for the US would be to adopt Iran as a partner in the area which would help so much in Afghanistan and Iraq particularly, and Lebanon, but Israel's belligerency comes first and they wouldn't accept it.

So while there's so much money in militarization and war, like with Israel now offering to buy some new Joint Strike Fighters from the US (with US taxpayer money), there has to be some restraint when taking on a real power like Iran as opposed to the patsies that the US normally attacks.

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My take on Obama and relations with Israel, or any other major issue for that matter, not as formatting and following a policy, but rather a weather vane. If those who must be obeyed want a particular outcome RahmObama will accommodate, otherwise they waffle and obfuscate waiting for others to act.

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Has Obama ever even implied that this was seriously a possibility? I mean aside from the "everythings on the table" statement that's always on the table during such discussions.

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Both Obama and Hillary have made very thinly veiled threats to Iran in public statements. So yes, in that sense they have. When they talk about "nothing is off the table" in terms of "responding" to Iran if it doesn't comply with our self serving demands for them not to do anything to defend themselves from the very real threat of US military attacks upon them and their population. Those statements are not just standard US rhetoric. We have been privately threatening them with attack since 1979 and have been inching closer and closer to open hostilities throughout the intervening years. We invaded their neighbors and have placed armies on both sides of Iran and our commanders in both conflicts have blamed Iran for the problems they have in being unable to "pacify" the population. So when the Pres. and SOS make official public statements as they have about what we may or may not do you can pretty well count those as threatening military action. Given our notably unfriendly behavior toward their Muslim neighbors they would be crazy not to be expecting a US attack sooner or later. I pray it never happens as we have no legitimate cause to attack them and the consequences would be horrendous.

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Good points. Still my gut says not under this president and not under these circumstances. I don't think this is what Obama wants.

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Nice article, but it doesn't address the real danger which is that the Israelis go ahead and bomb Iran, expecting the U.S. to fall in behind them and back them up (which we would do, unfortunately, due to the domestic political pressure that would be applied to the Obama Administration). How do we constrain the Israelis anymore than we are already doing with the additional sanctions and pressures we are putting on the Iranian regime? I do not put it past Netanyahu to push things to a head because he knows Obama cannot and will not repudiate his government.

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What if Netanyahu feels the hot breath of Avigdor Lieberman and the radical right on his neck and decides to Go Rogue and bring on the bombs himself?

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A few weeks ago there were reports in Haretz (sp?) of US warships passing through the Suez and how that might be in preparation of an Israeli attack on Iran.

This mornings NYTs reported on North Korean threats over US-South Korean naval exercises. In light of this info the Suez sightings were most likely US ships headed to these exercises, or over-the-horizon back up in case NK did something really stupid.

Clemons' is right, bombing Iran is the worst of a lot of bad options.

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RIGHT ON, Steve Clemons.

Watch now as the usual half-witted, self-mislabelled "progressive" cut-and-pasters here proceed to hurl prefabricated insults at the little boy for daring to point out that the emperor is naked.

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Can I guarantee Obama will not bomb Iran? No. But I think the chances are greatly reduced under his administration than ANY unnamed republican. Yet another thing to consider when deciding to vote for a repub or any third party...

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Who are the "geniuses" on Obama's team, who are flirting with this option?

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Very good article - thanks for writing it.

This article mentions oil and gas, which puts it in the highest percentile of articles on this topic.

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Mr. Clemons, with all due respect, I haven’t seen anyone hyperventilating over this besides the usual neocon crowd, and even they are drowned out by the Tea Party faction. Still, it's not hard to see why many would be wary of our intentions there. We've labelled Iran a terrorist state and continuously reinforce that label, even after they helped us against Al Qaeda. We have, in the past, manipulated intelligence against Iran just as we did with Iraq. We always present Ahmadinejad as a lunatic, regardless of what he is saying. And let's not forget, Iran is the last triumvirate in the fiendish "axis of evil" (I can't recall, who coined that term?).

I’m glad you realized in ’07 what many had concluded: that we were too stretched out to start another war. I thought the same, but I could never discount the ‘crazy factor’ with Bush and company. The new administration hasn’t followed through on much real diplomacy as intimated (nice speech in Cairo), but they have been bellowing about Iran’s presupposed nuclear weapons program and the Iranian people’s desperate pleas for democracy (I wonder, would they greet us with flowers if we imposed this Western democracy?). All that said, while Obama has continued and expanded the security state, there is no will in the country for another front.

There are, undoubtedly, many Iranians who want democratic change, and I’m not belittling that at all, but what were the election protests really about? Who was the "green path" candidate that was allegedly cheated out of the Presidency? Would that be the same Iranian leader who created Hezbollah and planned the attack that killed almost 250 American servicemen? And do you really think that Britain or the US had no part at all in instigating those protests?

I really have to wonder what terrorism is when a group like a nationalist Hezbollah can suicide bomb our military under Reagan and our reaction is to pack up and pull out of Lebanon, or they can take hostages and we trade weapons for them, compared to no evident threat existing against us today when we brand them as global, excuse me, transnational terrorists, impose sanctions that hurt the Iranian people, and at least keep the threat of attack in our back pocket.

An attack against Iran would probably blow this control valve off -- resulting in a terrorist superhighway running from Iran through Iraq into Jordan and Syria right toward Israel.

Now you’re talking. Israel would get the brunt of any blowback if we bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran. It’s not in Israel’s interest at the moment (regardless of the neocon bluster). It seems our presidents will do a lot of things to protect our national security, but they’ll do anything to protect Israel’s. As far as creating more hatred of America, I think we’ve pretty much filled that cup. Besides, as I pointed out, there is no support for any additional military action here. Most Americans would rather see us out of the Middle East entirely.

In fact, I think the country is so “terrorism fatigued” that most people just shut out foreign security issues (redefined as homeland security issues now), and this administration, like the last, is taking advantage of that apathy to further loot civil liberties in the name of the GWOT. Note how, just this week, Obama slapped down Pelosi for daring to ask for more congressional oversight in the Intelligence Authorization Bill. Of course, he was egged on by the likes of your new BFF, David Frum.

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From Candidate Obama in 2008:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,417563,00.html

OBAMA: Here's where you and I agree. It is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. It would be a game changer, and I've said that repeatedly. I've also said I would never take a military option off the table.
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Candidate Obama was crystal clear. Emphatically stated, absolutely no toleration under any circumstances would Iran possess a Nuke AND he went so far as to delineate specifically the means by which he was willing to deny Iran that capability...the "military option". I heard it, you heard it. He told the American people this.

Has this changed, Mr. Clemons?

Which one of those two points is no longer valid? Is it now "relucantly" acceptable for Iran to possess a nuke? ...or is there some reason why the military option never was an option, or is there some magic solution short of military option that will work...or will we just wake up one day, see that they have the bomb and throw our hands up and say "well, we tried ALMOST everything". What has changed?

I read your piece carefully and I hear a number of nightmare scenarios why we should not cross that bridge, but I'm troubled by your vague references to what we actually do that we haven't done.

You said, "I think that there are many things that can yet be done to change the incentive structure of the Iranian political leadership and either seduce or cajole its leaders into a more internationally acceptable course -- and all of these should be tried and put on the table before the potentially cataclysmic course of adopting the Iran War option."

That is pretty light on specifics for such a lengthy article. It implies that you have a long list of solutions that you are not sharing with us, and by using the word "before" implies that this supposedly finite list of solutions and the clearly obvious finite amount of time we are working with might at some point be exhausted,...and that at that point your plans to solve the problem will lead to your also "adopting the Iran War option" as you put it.

Please share with us just some of these "many things" you mentioned and describe how they differ from the clearly failed efforts to date, and also will your solutions be capable of being implemented and tested for success in a time sensitive manner, so that at some point we will know if candidate Obama really meant what he said.

If someone says we will try that other solution, but first our solutions will take 5 years to test, but it only takes one year for Iran to make a bomb, then it is the equivalent of saying the military option is really not on the table.

There was a time when timetables and exit strategies were front and center when it came to foreign policy. I think the non-military options require timetables as well, or the term unacceptable is meaningless.

I have to admit, your hope that Iran might behave with Nuclear technology the way Japan has, is as scary as comparing Charlie Manson to the Dalai Lama. Japan is our closest ally in Asia and has shown an obsessive distaste for growing its military structure. The Islamic Republic of Iran has been killing Americans for 30 years and even killed Americans just this week. No nation on earth has been so vocal about its desire to commit genocide and attack America in the last 65 years as Iran. Comparing the two is difficult to comprehend. This notion makes me wonder if you are of the "Reluctantly" acceptable crowd. If so, then say so. But Obama was clear once on the matter. Did you agree with him then, or do you have solutions that can succeed in time to make the term "unacceptable" actually mean something?

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From Candidate Obama in 2008:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,417563,00.html

OBAMA: Here's where you and I agree. It is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. It would be a game changer, and I've said that repeatedly. I've also said I would never take a military option off the table.
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Candidate Obama was crystal clear. Emphatically stated, absolutely no toleration under any circumstances would Iran possess a Nuke AND he went so far as to delineate specifically the means by which he was willing to deny Iran that capability...the "military option". I heard it, you heard it. He told the American people this.

Has this changed, Mr. Clemons?

Which one of those two points is no longer valid? Is it now "relucantly" acceptable for Iran to possess a nuke? ...or is there some reason why the military option never was an option, or is there some magic solution short of military option that will work...or will we just wake up one day, see that they have the bomb and throw our hands up and say "well, we tried ALMOST everything". What has changed?

I read your piece carefully and I hear a number of nightmare scenarios why we should not cross that bridge, but I'm troubled by your vague references to what we actually do that we haven't done.

You said, "I think that there are many things that can yet be done to change the incentive structure of the Iranian political leadership and either seduce or cajole its leaders into a more internationally acceptable course -- and all of these should be tried and put on the table before the potentially cataclysmic course of adopting the Iran War option."

That is pretty light on specifics for such a lengthy article. It implies that you have a long list of solutions that you are not sharing with us, and by using the word "before" implies that this supposedly finite list of solutions and the clearly obvious finite amount of time we are working with might at some point be exhausted,...and that at that point your plans to solve the problem will lead to your also "adopting the Iran War option" as you put it.

Please share with us just some of these "many things" you mentioned and describe how they differ from the clearly failed efforts to date, and also will your solutions be capable of being implemented and tested for success in a time sensitive manner, so that at some point we will know if candidate Obama really meant what he said.

If someone says we will try that other solution, but first our solutions will take 5 years to test, but it only takes one year for Iran to make a bomb, then it is the equivalent of saying the military option is really not on the table.

There was a time when timetables and exit strategies were front and center when it came to foreign policy. I think the non-military options require timetables as well, or the term unacceptable is meaningless.

I have to admit, your hope that Iran might behave with Nuclear technology the way Japan has, is as scary as comparing Charlie Manson to the Dalai Lama. Japan is our closest ally in Asia and has shown an obsessive distaste for growing its military structure. The Islamic Republic of Iran has been killing Americans for 30 years and even killed Americans just this week. No nation on earth has been so vocal about its desire to commit genocide and attack America in the last 65 years as Iran. Comparing the two is difficult to comprehend. This notion makes me wonder if you are of the "Reluctantly" acceptable crowd. If so, then say so. But Obama was clear once on the matter. Did you agree with him then, or do you have solutions that can succeed in time to make the term "unacceptable" actually mean something?

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From Candidate Obama in 2008:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,417563,00.html

OBAMA: Here's where you and I agree. It is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. It would be a game changer, and I've said that repeatedly. I've also said I would never take a military option off the table.
==============

Candidate Obama was crystal clear. Emphatically stated, absolutely no toleration under any circumstances would Iran possess a Nuke AND he went so far as to delineate specifically the means by which he was willing to deny Iran that capability...the "military option". I heard it, you heard it. He told the American people this.

Has this changed, Mr. Clemons?

Which one of those two points is no longer valid? Is it now "relucantly" acceptable for Iran to possess a nuke? ...or is there some reason why the military option never was an option, or is there some magic solution short of military option that will work...or will we just wake up one day, see that they have the bomb and throw our hands up and say "well, we tried ALMOST everything". What has changed?

I read your piece carefully and I hear a number of nightmare scenarios why we should not cross that bridge, but I'm troubled by your vague references to what we actually do that we haven't done.

You said, "I think that there are many things that can yet be done to change the incentive structure of the Iranian political leadership and either seduce or cajole its leaders into a more internationally acceptable course -- and all of these should be tried and put on the table before the potentially cataclysmic course of adopting the Iran War option."

That is pretty light on specifics for such a lengthy article. It implies that you have a long list of solutions that you are not sharing with us, and by using the word "before" implies that this supposedly finite list of solutions and the clearly obvious finite amount of time we are working with might at some point be exhausted,...and that at that point your plans to solve the problem will lead to your also "adopting the Iran War option" as you put it.

Please share with us just some of these "many things" you mentioned and describe how they differ from the clearly failed efforts to date, and also will your solutions be capable of being implemented and tested for success in a time sensitive manner, so that at some point we will know if candidate Obama really meant what he said.

If someone says we will try that other solution, but first our solutions will take 5 years to test, but it only takes one year for Iran to make a bomb, then it is the equivalent of saying the military option is really not on the table.

There was a time when timetables and exit strategies were front and center when it came to foreign policy. I think the non-military options require timetables as well, or the term unacceptable is meaningless.

I have to admit, your hope that Iran might behave with Nuclear technology the way Japan has, is as scary as comparing Charlie Manson to the Dalai Lama. Japan is our closest ally in Asia and has shown an obsessive distaste for growing its military structure. The Islamic Republic of Iran has been killing Americans for 30 years and even killed Americans just this week. No nation on earth has been so vocal about its desire to commit genocide and attack America in the last 65 years as Iran. Comparing the two is difficult to comprehend. This notion makes me wonder if you are of the "Reluctantly" acceptable crowd. If so, then say so. But Obama was clear once on the matter. Did you agree with him then, or do you have solutions that can succeed in time to make the term "unacceptable" actually mean something?

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