Liberal-Libertarian Breakthrough
I've been writing for a while on the possibility of a Liberal-Libertarian coalition on issues like our imperial overstretch, This morning Reps. Barney Frank and Ron Paul have written a very strong piece in the Huffington Post on this very subject.
As members of opposing political parties, we disagree on a number of important issues. But we must not allow honest disagreement over some issues to interfere with our ability to work together when we do agree.By far the single most important of these is our current initiative to include substantial reductions in the projected level of American military spending as part of future deficit reduction efforts. For decades, the subject of military expenditures has been glaringly absent from public debate. Yet the Pentagon budget for 2010 is $693 billion -- more than all other discretionary spending programs combined. Even subtracting the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, military spending still amounts to over 42% of total spending.
It is irrefutably clear to us that if we do not make substantial cuts in the projected levels of Pentagon spending, we will do substantial damage to our economy and dramatically reduce our quality of life.
This is a movement that needs wide support from both left and right. Until most Americans realize that there is a better Life After Empire, we will be trapped in a pinched view of the American future. Write Frank and Paul and tell them of your support.

















Can anyone understand why the same people who applaud, support American imperialism are also vehemently against having to pay taxes?
July 6, 2010 1:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Easy.... they can steal from those we conquer to support the country.
C
July 6, 2010 1:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is not only greater that the sum of all discretionary spending programs combined. Its also greater that the military spending of all other countries combined.
July 6, 2010 2:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree but where are the rest of them? Where are you Senator Amy? Senator Al?
Nothing will change until we refuse to vote for it. They made some cosmetic tweaks to the Bush policy. Took his General. Took his Secretary of Defense. Installed Hillary the Hawk at State. Same wars. Same out of control budget. Same war profiteers. Same war for profit mercenaries.
That's what we voted for and that's what I will not vote for in 2010 and 2012.
July 6, 2010 2:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is awesome news, but...
..all we'll see next is a different kind of unity - between John McCain and Barack Obama.
July 6, 2010 3:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
...not to mention neo-lib triangulation. Brilliant setup for Obama to play manly Commander in Chief. Great script. Somebody deserves an Academy Award.
July 6, 2010 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
This 'breakthrough' reflects back upon a letter that was sent to the Fiscal Commission on May 27, 2010. The signers of the letter were Senator Wyden and Reps Frank, Jones and Paul. The Commission was established by presidential executive order on February 18, 2010 when the Congress failed to establish it as requested by the president.
There is a lot of chatter that President Obama has curtained off any military cuts from this Commission's consideration, but there is no basis for that.
Obama, April 27, 2010:
The Commission's report is due no later than December 1, 2010.
July 6, 2010 5:06 PM | Reply | Permalink
Frank threw out some interesting numbers this morn: We have "tens-of-thousands" of American troops stationed throughout Europe (all of which can well afford to 'protect' themselves); we have 15,000 marines stationed on Okinawa (still?); we have 28,000 troops stationed at the Korean DMZ (even though South Korea is a rich and prospering country quite capable of 'defending itself.
He added that because of a variety of new state-of-the-art weapons, fighting an enemy no longer requires that we be just next door. (Alexander the Great was probably the greatest general to have ever lived, but he fought his battles in 300 BC and this is 2010 AD.)
July 7, 2010 11:20 AM | Reply | Permalink
Also in South Korea Gates made a decision to make SK an accompanied tour -- which means families, who need facilities including: high-rise apartment buildings, schools, gymnasiums, a splish'n'splash water park, etc etc. all being built at Camp Humphries.
There is no limit to what these people are brazen enough to do with our money.
July 7, 2010 10:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
It's equally amazing how freely we distribute 'stimulus' money to foreign countries while at the same time screaming bloody murder if anyone suggests we distribute it in this country.
Apparently the former is fiscally sound while the latter is fiscal suicide?
July 8, 2010 12:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Great. Ron Paul. Surely one of the most powerful members of Congress.
July 6, 2010 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Are there any powerful members of Congress? Let's go out on the street and ask passersby to name ten members of Congress. Okay, five. One?
July 6, 2010 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Uh...so what percent of total spending is the military budget if you *do* add in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Ryan and Grim and Shahien Nasiripour have a great peace up at Huffpo, looking at some recent deeper polling, and the extent to which most Americans really *don't* give a fig about deficits unless they're told to by reporters and uh...the White House! They point out the idiocy of it all, even in terms of electoral politics (Oh, Rahm! Oh, Axelrod!)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/06/mayberry-machiavellis-oba_n_636770.html
But I got to thinking about polls and war spending: do polls ask people's opinions about it? And if so, any deeper polling? It might be interesting, as support wanes, and there are fewer jobs, and people start twigging to the fact that this recession may be deepening, and last a long, long time.
July 6, 2010 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, what they said was (if I may put it in my terms) that when someone is asked a poll question that they don't know much about they will answer according to what they have read or heard recently in the media, thinking that is the best answer. Like if one were asked what laundry soap was the best the answer might,be the one that advertised the most because who knows which one is really best.
In this case I'm told (I lack a teevee and don't read newspapers) that a Mr. Peterson is promoting deficits as a problem, so that's the answer they tend to get.
So it's a human response that's involved, even something that I or you (gasp!) might do, and it leads to the (my) conclusion that polls don't mean much since they are driven by the media and we know how reliable that is.
July 6, 2010 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Forgive me, I'm answering too many comments on too many diaries. Yes, they mentioned that part of polling response, but did you click on this survey? I think it's more what I was speaking about. Sorry I can't check to be poitive, but I really have to shuck some corn for dinner now!
;-)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/07/unemployment-benefits-are_n_603368.html
July 6, 2010 7:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good link. Thanks
It makes sense to cut military spending also. Why must it always be cut social programs.
July 8, 2010 5:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is an idea that has deserved wide support for about 35 years and yet never gets it because the "moderate" Democrats are (as usual) too afraid to make any real and substantial reductions in the miltary budget because the Republicans will attack them. This ver modest initial foray into budget reduction for the Pentagon is almost laughable. They are talking about 100 Billion dollars a year for 10 years. That's just the tip of the iceberg for God's sake! We could easily cut 50% of the current pentagon budget and still be spending far and away the most on defense of any nation on earth. We could likely save three trillion dollars if our elected leaders in DC were serious about curtailing the deficit and bringing the "defense" budget in line with our actual defense needs.
July 7, 2010 1:49 AM | Reply | Permalink
You're saying that that US doesn't need ten nuclear carrier fleets, and that manned combat aircraft are obsolete, and you're claiming there's no more need for heavy tanks and artillery to be maintained in standing armies, and that we don't need to be building a new military city in Korea? That there is absolutely no practical justification for all these expensive military trappings? Is that the heresy you're trying to promote, brother?
July 7, 2010 9:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Battling the U.S. Chamber of Commerce lobby . . .
The following is a 2007 Chamber of Commerce report.
Defense Trade: Keeping America Secure and Competitive (pdf)
Starting on Page 10:
The U.S. Defense Industry: National Defense Spending and the U.S. Economy
~OGD~
July 7, 2010 6:57 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course it's not only the CoC -- it's every senator and rep, plus a lot of mayors and such who depend upon the military budget to sustain their communities and districts with spending and employment.
July 7, 2010 9:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
Pakistan Pays Price for Trucking in Afghan War Cargo
July 7, 2010 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
You are "preaching to the choir" dudes.
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