AIPAC Sends Out Racist Video ++AIPAC's Private Email Praising It
This video, second in a series of racist videos put out by Jerusalem Post writers, was today sent out to journalists by AIPAC, my favorite lobby. That's it, folks. The lobby has written off Turkey which means Israel has, too.
Andrew Sullivan posts the AIPAC email here.
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Hey MJ what's up with the disappearing posts?
June 18, 2010 1:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am nearly speechless. Are the AIPAC and Israeli right wingers so filled with hate for everyone they are willing to risk having even their friends abandon them? This video is that offensive. This is sick and arrogant on a level you don't see outside of the most radical right wing crap. What is wrong with these people?
June 18, 2010 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
These people have twisted themselves into such knots to avoid seeing what they and Israel have become that they are now talking out of the wrong orrifice and mistaking it for their mouths.
Really, they are not only tone deaf, they are also blind. Too bad they aren't dumb as well.
June 18, 2010 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
WOW!
This is about as sick as it comes. We don't need no stinkin' bridges!
Ironically this comes right after I learn that we actually have one. You mean that not all Muslims and Arabs are plotting jihad every waking moment? WHO KNEW?????
June 18, 2010 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Russia's and China's "Thank You" card to AIPAC is already in the mail!
June 18, 2010 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
WOW was also my first reaction. It's hard to believe that even AIPAC could associate themselves with this. What kind of cover did they send it out under?
June 18, 2010 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mr. Rosenberg, I recently saw one of your pieces in Antiwar.com. This site recently featured Justin Raimando speaking truth to power about 'The Lobby' along with Mr. Giraldi, invoking, as they do, The USS Liberty attack of '67 where, they claim, Israel attacked and murdered scores of US servicemen. Giraldi, a favorite of Antiwar.com, invokes Judaism itself in his recent screed, telling us how 'The Chosen People' aren't 'so chosen' after all, but kind of a malicious group of volk.
I wonder, Mr. Rosenberg, how you feel you article is highlighted at Antiwar.com? Do you share Antiwar.com's sentiment?
Before you ask what the hell this has to do with your post, let me explain: are you conflating this video's message with the state of Israel? or just AIPAC? Did Richard Pryor represent the administration of Ronald Reagan. How about Jon Stewart... does he speak for President Obama? Or are they private citizens making attempts at humor, satire, or with intent to hurt or promote hate? In any event, using your lockage, any crime, dunderheaded assertion made by an Israeli, would be the responsibility of AIPAC and company.
Sorry for the comment, but I'm sure your post will be rewarded at Antiwar.com. Mersh and company will add you to the list of good Jews.
ps. Media Matters has little to say about the anti-semetic Giraldi at Antiwar.com. Oversight? david
June 18, 2010 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
My, God, you are totally incoherent.
You know what I love about America: we don't make our Sephardi girls go to different schools than our Askenazi girls.
Some rebranding of Zion is in order:
"Israel: The only Bull Connor's democracy in the ME"
"Come to Israel: It's always 1955 here."
"Escape to Israel: Warm beaches, high tech industries, and separate classes for Arabs and the wrong type of Jew."
"Come to Israel: We ignore our Supreme Court too."
"Join the IDF: We give medals to soldiers who attack cruise ships."
"We just remembered the Armenian Genocide."
June 18, 2010 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
OMG ANTI-SEMITISM!!! LET'S ALL BLINDLY SUPPORT ISRAEL SO WE'RE NOT ANTI-SEMITIC!
June 18, 2010 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
This is the equaivalent of when a child gets caught doing something wrong and then they scream out: "but what about what they did?" Whatever anyone else did is not the point. The problem is what the kid did wrong to begin with.
June 19, 2010 9:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
another example of the right-wing jewish superiority-exceptionalism-sociopathic complex
June 18, 2010 5:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
Also, as an aside, did not the sainted Saul Alinsky admonish us that humor and satire is one of the most biting forms of critique? Or is satire only a weapon of the left?
June 18, 2010 5:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, we rely on universal values.
June 18, 2010 5:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Myth buster. Israel's coddling of the Armenian Genocide issue to please the Turks was disgusting. Almost as disgusting as is holocaust denial of the Armenian Genocide itself. After all, the issue is not the feeling or relationships of Turkey, The US, or Israel, but the historical memory of 1.5 million human beings.
Much has been tweeted and posted concerning the nine or ten "activists" shot by the Israelis, but precious none about Armenia, or Darfur, or anywhere else, except Israel.
What sort of universal values are there concerning the Armenians or Darfur? Suddenly mute?
June 18, 2010 5:39 PM | Reply | Permalink
Too late, David. AIPAC can't cynically work to suppress resolutions on the Armenian Genocide and then suddenly "remember" the event when Israel has a spat with Turkey.
I've always wondered why the Turks opposed it anyway. By the time the Best Congress Money Can Buy passes this resolution, it will be met with the appropriate level of derision.
I hope the Turks counter with an American Slavery resolution. Then we can both pop off about the crimes of our ancestors.
June 18, 2010 5:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
They opposed it because they deny it happened. That 1.5 million Armenians were raped, maimed, kicked out of their homes, their homelands occupied.
Unlike the slavery example, does the US deny slavery?
Unlike Germany, holocaust denial itself leads to prison.
But 1.5 million dead Armenians cannot be discussed. Since their murder was fomented by lusty Jihadist rants. Read Armenian Gologatha.
Yes. Israel, and the ADL, were almost beyond reproach to aid Turkey in their denial journey. But the Turks, with their Jihadist killing of millions and jailing the brave who question history, now are have generalized seizures over Israel. That's too holy to satirize. Forgettaboutit.
June 18, 2010 6:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
David, I'm glad your outage over the Ottoman Empire's crimes against the Armenians in 1915 only bubbled over when the Republic of Turkey started criticizing Israel over Operation Cast Lead in 2008.
June 18, 2010 6:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
the whole purpose of this farce is not comedy or satire but to demonize and brand turkey as the new enemy.
June 18, 2010 5:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course, but don't columnists, humorists have that right? Have you heard of Haaretz? What would happen to the Palestinian Gideon Levy? He'd probably have to live in Israel, or is that racists to bring it up?
June 18, 2010 5:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
muslim countries have their form of repression. while many arab countries are stuck in a year 1200 morality with beheadings, stonings, and hangings, israel is stuck in 1955 jim crow and south-africa apartheid.
both jewish and muslim extremists have the same disease: we can make fun of you but you can't make fun of us; we can kill you but you can't kill us.
June 18, 2010 6:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
A Palestinian Gideon Levy? There is a whole crew of them working overtime at the American Task Force on Palestine. These cats are such sellouts that they invite Eliot Abrams to their events!
A Lebanese Gideon Levy? Er, Fouad Ajami and Walid Fares.
A female Gideon Levy? CNN hired a Octavia Nasr, flacked for Israel the day the IDF attacked the Cruise ships.
There are so many journalistic Arab collaborators for Israel, they could form their own battalion.
June 18, 2010 6:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
A Palestinian Gideon Levy? There is a whole crew of them working overtime at the American Task Force on Palestine. These cats are such sellouts that they invite Eliot Abrams to their events!
A Lebanese Gideon Levy? Er, Fouad Ajami and Walid Fares.
A female Gideon Levy? CNN has Octavia Nasr, flacked for Israel the day the IDF attacked the Cruise ships.
There are so many journalistic Arab collaborators for Israel, they could form their own battalion.
June 18, 2010 6:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Mythbuster, LOL, you show your own ignorance(willful or not).
Mrs. Nasr lives in Atlanta.
Mr. Walid Phares and the eloquent Ajami do not live in Jordan, Syria, or Gaza City. It is precisely the where they live that is relevant. They live in the United States. Where no one will kill them for a dissenting viewpoint.
June 18, 2010 6:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
David, I don't speak Arabic so I kinda watch English language news. So I gave you names of Arabs who fit the profile of a Gideon Levy. Perforce, they write for Western news outlets.
Man, you are dumb.
June 18, 2010 6:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
Alinsky wasn't thinking of racist stereotypes you twit.
June 19, 2010 9:58 AM | Reply | Permalink
BluePearl. Using your logic, when Rush Limbaugh makes fun of Jesse Jackson, does that imply the racism inherent in all Americans.
After all, Rush is an American as I assume you are. He views himself as as pontificator, satirist. But does he represent America? Or does he represent his listeners? I'm sure TPM and the Daily Kos would argue that Rush Limbaugh decidedly does not represent their point of view. Many view Rush as a stooge. Many in Israel probably view the Rosenberg video satire of this post as not representing their point of view.
How the fuc*can you be so fuc((ing obtuse? So, you take three or four or 4000 thousand Israelis and shine a Max Blementhal or other useful-idiot troll's camera in front of their face and 'that's all folks?' WTF is that?
Ever watch Mississippi Burning? Does the racist views of Mississippi forever and ever reflect ALL FREAKING AMERICANS? Why the freak not? BECAUSE WE ARE INDIVIDUALS! ONE ASS DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF US.
June 18, 2010 6:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
You are really, really sloppy. MJ did not post this video just because an Israeli made it. He posted it because a major pro-Israel lobby (AIPAC) put it on their website. When a lobby endorses trash, that's a big deal.
June 18, 2010 6:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
your counter-argument about rush is vacuous. your counter-argument about the part not representing the whole is full of holes. note the term 'extremist' is used in my post referring to extremist muslims and jews. they are both crazy along with christian rush.
June 18, 2010 6:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
As a matter of fact, he posted it because AIPAC owns a goodly percentage of the US Congress, and has a majority stake in the white house. So these folks are not simply commentators and comedians. They are politically active lobbyists who share the Israeli viewpoint that one should annihilate those who disagree, or at the absolute minimum, tar them with the anti-Semite label.
June 19, 2010 7:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
It would bother me greatly if my words gave comfort to anti-semites or racists. I'm sure Andrew Sullivan was highly tooted in Nazi circles when he "examined" intelligence and race not too long ago. To be tooted on Antiwar.com for being a "just chosen" or whatever is kind of disgusting. Come to think of it, I've noted two fellow posters on both TPM and Antiwar.com.
The haters of Israel neither sleep nor slumber. The inhabit the extreme left and the extreme right. Not a single issue links Takitalk and Stormfront with TPMcafe and Antiwar.com. Not a single issue but one: Israel. From CounterPunch to The American Conservative. From Justin Raimando to Patrick Buchanan to 'Taki' to Mersh. All united by talking truth to power, from talking about The USS Liberty, for their love of the Palestinians?
No. Just hate for Israel. Self hating or self deluding. But as the great Martin Luther King Jr. said, "... when you're talking zionism, you're talking Jews...." That's what it all boils down to in the end.
June 18, 2010 6:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
you should reread your post above about conflating the individual as representing the group. not all jews are zionist and not all zionist are jews.
June 18, 2010 7:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sorry David, the antisemitism accusation has been used up. Product expired. It has no credibility outside of Israel or among the proLikud followers here in the west. I am glad you bring up the USS Liberty, for that too is a case that we can discuss today because any sentient being is aware that there was a major coverup and that screaming antisemitism will not change that fact.
June 18, 2010 7:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
How many lurid anti-semtic cartoons originate from Syria? Jordan and Turkey? Turkey had a recent state owned TV special on Jewish doctors stealing organs in Iraq, sending them to Tel Aviv. This was among several recent TV shows applauded by the leader of Turkey and his wife.
So, some dolt of a writer does this satire on three idiot leaders. This same crew lampooned Bibi and Obama and the entire journalistic establishment in Israel.
MJ. Question, and it's an honest one, since the occupation began in 1967, I'm assuming you worked for AIPAC in the pre-67 period, and, if not, why not? Since the evils of the world began in May '67 with the occupation, was AIPAC a better AIPAC when your worked for her as you noted, lobbying those democratic senators. Now, it's a bad Israel, until Labour takes over again. Funny thing, the occupation and settlements began under the sainted socialists: not Likud.
June 18, 2010 6:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
Imagine the absolute uproar that would occur if someone published a similar video about Jews and Israel. I could certainly think up enough lyrics about the occupation to paint a similarly ridiculously unfair portrait of Israel. As a Jew, I find this video to be extremely embarassing.
June 18, 2010 7:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
Self Hating ! -Very common phenomena among Jews (Specially among Ashkenazim) - some mutation in their gens !
Some of them will sell their mother just to show they are More "Gentiles" them the "gentiles" themselves - People without backbone - AND NO, WE DONT BUY THE "WE ARE LIBERALS HUMANISTS " BS!!
June 19, 2010 6:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
The posters above sadly prove my point. I dearly wish I were wrong. But anti-semitism is a growth industry. The Holocaust gave a generation's reprieve. But the oldest hatred has never been completely snuffed.
If Israel didn't exist or moved back em masses to the '48 or '67 borders, it would change nothing. I am comforted that so many good people reject bigotry in all of it's guises.
June 18, 2010 7:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "...anti-semitism is a growth industry" - David Oberlander
NETANYAHU'S FATHER (2009): "...The Bible finds no worse image than this of the man from the desert. And why? Because he has no respect for any law. Because in the desert he can do as he pleases. The tendency towards conflict is in the essence of the Arab. He is an enemy by essence. His personality won’t allow him any compromise or agreement. It doesn’t matter what kind of resistance he will meet, what price he will pay. His existence is one of perpetuate war..."
"...The two states solution doesn’t exist. There are no two people here. There is a Jewish people and an Arab population...there is no Palestinian people, so you don’t create a state for an imaginary nation...they only call themselves a people in order to fight the Jews..." - Benzion Netanyahu, 2009 interview
SOURCE OF NETANYAHU'S FATHER'S WORDS - http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/04/04/bibis-fathers-answer-to-the-arab-problem-hang-em-in-the-town-square/
June 18, 2010 8:43 PM | Reply | Permalink
Either your are deflecting anti-antisemitism with Netanyahu's father's quote or are justifying it. Or perhaps a Willie Horton type deflection/justification.
Hey, lookie at that black guy going through the revolvin door over there. Vote for Bush.
Hey, Bibi's dad is a racist nut job, I guess the anti-semites are on to something. Teddy Kennedy's father was no lover of the Jewish people and, I believe, was not so anti-Nazi at first: is that a reflection on his sons? No, of course not.
Interestingly and of some intrigue, classical anti-semitism would support the view that the sins of the father(ie. murdering Christ)justifies and allows hatred of the offspring.
Bibi has a brother-in-law who's also a nut job, so what does that prove? He has another relative who's a peacnik: so what.
June 18, 2010 8:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Either your are deflecting anti-antisemitism with Netanyahu's father's quote or are justifying it. Or perhaps a Willie Horton type deflection/justification." - David Oberlander
MY QUESTION: Are you absolutely certain that my motive(s) can only be one (or more) of these three possibilities?
June 18, 2010 9:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
The symbolism of your post is what I am aiming at. How something is used. When you put on a white hood, what is this symbolic of? You quote Netanyahu's father. Would the quotes of JFK's father or Martin Luther King's father have any relevant bearing on their sons viewpoints?
Yes. Bibi's dad sounds like a bigot. Maybe, if she available he could date Helen Thomas. Then we could do a diary excusing all of their potty talk.
June 18, 2010 9:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Either your are deflecting anti-antisemitism with Netanyahu's father's quote..." - David Oberlander
MY QUESTIONS:
What anti-antisemitism?
Who's anti-antisemitism?
Deflecting it from where?
Deflecting it to where?
How would my posting the quotation from Benzion Netanyahu "deflect" any anti-antisemitism? I don't get the connection. Two wrongs do not a right make.
June 18, 2010 9:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Either your are deflecting anti-antisemitism with Netanyahu's father's quote or are justifying it" - David Oberlander
MY QUESTION:
Justifying what, anti-antisemitism?
Justifying anti-Semitism?
How would my posting the quotation from Benzion Netanyahu "deflect" any anti-antisemitism (or anti-Semitism)? Do you think that the Benzion quotation can somehow justify anti-Semitism? Even retroactively? Even the Holocaust? That would strike me as a very, very strange idea.
June 18, 2010 10:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Or perhaps a Willie Horton type deflection/justification." - David Oberlander
MY QUESTIONS:
Why "Willie Horton type"?
In what way did the Willie Horton ad deflect or justify anything?
Exactly what did the Willie Horton ad deflect or justify?
June 18, 2010 10:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Hey, Bibi's dad is a racist nut job...Bibi has a brother-in-law who's also a nut job, so what does that prove?" - David Oberlander
MY COMMENT: Who said it "proves" anything?
SEE: 100,000 Ultra-Orthodox Israelis protest school integration (AFP) ~ The Raw Story, 06/17/10
(excerpts) Around 100,000 ultra-Orthodox Jews on Thursday rallied in Jerusalem...over a supreme court ruling to jail a group of parents of European origin, or Ashkenazis, for refusing to send their daughters to a school with Jewish girls whose families originate from Arab countries, known as Sephardis...
....Some held banners proclaiming "The Torah Rules!" referring to the supremacy of biblical law over the secular justice system.
Others carried placards reading "The Prisoners of Immanuel are representatives of Israel," in reference to the defiant parents, all of whom come from the Jewish settlement of Immanuel in the occupied West Bank....
...The incident began when the supreme court intervened in a dispute at an ultra-Orthodox school in Immanuel settlement, where parents from the strictly observant Slonim Hassidic sect of Ashkenazi Jewry refused to let their girls go to school with girls of Sephardi descent....
...The Slonim parents say their objections are not racist but are based on differences in religious observance between the Ashkenazi and Sephardi traditions.
ENTIRE ARTICLE - http://rawstory.com/news/afp/100_000_Ultra_Orthodox_Israelis_pro_06172010.html
June 18, 2010 9:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dick, would it be fair that religious zealots and nut jobs tend to appear in all religions, or is it just the Jews who hate? What's next-serial killers in the West Bank? How about pedophiles.
Because of the scandal in the Catholic Church, does that make Chris Matthews suspect? how about Pat Buchanan?
Do you think there might be some social problems in the Muslim world? How's that for a pregnant question. Like, em, honor killings? the treatment of woman? the treatment of non-Muslims. Or is it that 100,000 Haredis run wild in Israel. That's what counts.
1.5 million dead Armenians. Doesn't mean a thing, but those 9 Turkish activist has all that sting.
Anti-semitism. Germany, Polyn. Forgetaboutit. What counts is Israel's tactics on Gaza.
Helen Thomas, give the gal a pass/Benzion Netanyahu, get the bigot a ship back to Poland.
Darfur, say what? it's not politically correct yet to talk about it, but the occupation is where it's at.
Sounds, Dick, like a Mel Brooks act.
June 18, 2010 11:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
"even when we seek revenge, it is imperative to remember that a thousand Arabs are not worth one yeshiva student." Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu
So Mrdechai is not an anti-smite? Oh,yes he is a Nazi in disguise of a Rabbi. This is exactly what the Nazis were teaching to their youth.
June 20, 2010 12:24 AM | Reply | Permalink
I think that BluePearl would base her opinion that Israel is mired in Jim Crow mentality on various news from Israel, including debates in Knesset, laws in force, legislative proposals, policing techniques (ever popular shooting tear gas straight in the face) etc.
By the way, the epistemologic technique seems to be that if "we" kill someone, or torture, that proves that he is a terrorist. So, after killing sufficiently many IHH members "we" proved that this is a terrorist organization.
Lucky for Emily Henochowicz: she is not a terrorist yet.
At some point the video flashes a picture of a destroyed buildings, which probably, by that logic, means dwellings of terrorists. ("We" would not destroy buildings of the innocents, so if we destroyed them, then they deserved it).
June 18, 2010 7:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
piotr, not on Emily's stature, but how about all dem Palestinians thrown off the rooftops by Hamas? How 'bout all of dem Palestinians crushed and hanged for being close to Abbas? Don't these arabs matter as well?
I note the antiwar crowd forgets these folks. Kind of like the NYT forgetting to tell us about the massacres of Stalin in the Ukraine.
As for torture, is it in Israel or queenie Noor's Jordan where it is perfected and practiced? Is it in Tel Aviv or in Egypt that prisons abound with torture; yet, aside from Christopher Hitchens, nary a word from the left.
June 18, 2010 7:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is so much evil in the world, why do you pick on us?
(thief to policeman) " there are so many thieves out there why do you pick on me"
see where this is going???
nowhere
June 19, 2010 11:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
Note the technique of Mr. USS Liberty Giraldi of the Ray McGovern Justin Raimando fan club Antiwar.com. First he moves beyond the usual trope distinguishing Israelis from Jews. Mr. Giraldi gives his audience(read those comments folks)the red meat: a discussion on murder and the Talmud.
What's next? An Antiwar expose on the Israeli connection to e coli infections as a result of eating brisket? What a nice group of leftists. Some of my best friends are....
June 18, 2010 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Where's the line? Sometimes it's hard to find? But everyone knows who the Neighborhood Bully is.
From the dispatches of Antiwar.com on the front page... read all about it by P Giraldi
"Recognizing that it undoubtedly makes many people uncomfortable to cite the bloodthirstiness of the Old Testament and Talmud, it must be observed that virtually all American and European Jews would rightly laugh at the notion that they are a people chosen by God that authorizes special rights and privileges vis-à-vis their fellow citizens. Nearly all would agree that lying or murdering someone is always wrong. But other attitudes appear to prevail in Israel where there is most definitely a different perspective. To those who are skeptical about how religion bolsters jingoism, one need only look at reports that Israeli Army rabbis for the first time were seen exhorting front line troops during the 2009 invasion of Gaza. The army rabbinate also issued pamphlets advising "When you show mercy to a cruel enemy, you are being cruel to pure and honest soldiers…This is a war on murderers." More recently, the Israeli commando who reportedly shot dead six unarmed Turks on board the Gaza bound Mavi Marmara has reportedly been recommended for a medal. Many Israelis excuse brutality towards the Palestinians based on a divine dispensation, God’s will to create a Greater Israel and cleanse it of followers of other faiths. Combined with an in-your-face nationalism that feeds off of a siege mentality, it is a sentiment that has been growing stronger over the past few years demographically as religious conservatives out-reproduce their politically more liberal counterparts. Many moderate Israelis have also become concernedthat the army officer ranks are increasingly being filled by Jewish fundamentalists and settlers who believe in Israel’s divine mission.
Netanyahu is a product of his environment, education, and culture and one can reasonably ask what drives him. The question is important because if his inner demons reinforced by a sense of ethnic entitlement and racial superiority are in control, he cannot be trusted at all, in anything that he says. And it could have dire consequences for the United States, suggesting that Netanyahu will behave ideologically and culturally rather than rationally and will unhesitatingly draw Washington into a war with Iran, a conflict in which the US will have to pay much the heavier price both in treasure and in lives. So it is important to know what Bibi Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman as well as some of their extremist colleagues in government actually believe. Do they believe that they are racially or by the grace of God better or more entitled than their Arab neighbors or their American patrons? Do they think that the killing of gentiles is less wrong than killing a Jew? Do they believe that lying constantly is acceptable because the lies are directed at the gentile population, not to deceive coreligionists? Based on recent evidence, lying to the gentiles certainly appears to be the hallmark of the Israeli government response to the Gaza flotilla massacre. The Israelis have fabricated information and even two videos, contrived a manifestly false narrative, and lied at every step along the way, ignoring eyewitness accounts and calling their unfortunate victims aggressors and "al-Qaeda mercenaries."
Unfortunately the arrogance of Bibi Netanyahu and the behavior of the Israeli government would seem to suggest strongly a belief in a manifest destiny granted by God. Israel is prepared to charge recklessly ahead to do whatever it takes to intimidate and instill fear among all its neighbors. Tel Aviv wants to be a combination of a mad dog and the school bully, suggesting that its contempt for Washington made evident in the Lavon Affair and the attempted sinking of the USS Liberty in 1967 was the rule rather than the exception and could easily happen again. And Israel appears to have little concern about doing whatever is necessary to drag the United States down with it if that is what is required. It is we Americans who should be fearful. Each American should be very concerned about what Bibi is actually thinking, particularly as our Congress and media have already been bought and occupied and we have a president who is so unsure of the support of his own party that he is afraid to face down an Israeli prime minister."
June 18, 2010 7:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I await the investigation by Media Matters after they're done with Beck and Limbaugh. The above sounds like Antiwar is girding their loins for a rumble with the chosen.
June 18, 2010 7:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
I have a major problem with all nations which base their rationale for expansion on god. I don't like to see god on anyone's banner. This includes every nation.
I cannot overlook the naked fact that the Palestinians were made refugees and forced off their own land. I really don't care how many centuries ago the Jewish people, or the Muslims, or the Martians for that matter, inhabited this or that piece of land.
At this point, the only acceptable outcome to me is the unrestricted return of all refugees to their homeland in Palestine, and if this means the Jews become a minority in the state of Palestine/Israel, then they're just going to have to deal with it.
For me, this is the only possible just outcome.
June 19, 2010 9:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Here's Mr. USA Justin Raimando, editor and chief of Antiwar.com
"Our Enemies, the Israelis
When will we wake up to the threat?
by Justin Raimondo, June 07, 2010
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One of my readers, in the comments section below, wrote the following in response to my last column on Israel’s hijacking of the Gaza flotilla:
“Again I ask the question: What do the Israelis have on our politicians that makes them such whores? Dirty pictures? Threats of withholding campaign contributions? It’s really embarrassing as well as infuriating to see congress with its collective pants down around their legislative ankles just waiting for Israel to do it again.”
And, Justin's just getting started. But he's just anti-zionist as in the 'I have no problem with secular self-hating Jews who delete the Israel part of the bible' crowd, it's just the shift zionist Jews who gives me the creeps specie that's got me blue.' Do I got that right?
June 18, 2010 7:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Jews, neocons, or zionists behaving badly. Since the terms are so distinct, perhaps the above posters can enlighten me. This is from the infamous bunch from the three tenors fame. Thanks. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP65L4kNIz0&feature=player_embedded
June 18, 2010 7:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "this stuff is right out of 1930's Central Europe" - M.J.
MY COMMENT: Not only that, but it's also über schmaltzy! Although it is more unimaginative and tasteless than it is racist, it did somehow still manage to remind me of the notorious film Der ewige Jude.
FROM WIKIPEDIA (excerpts): The Eternal Jew (1940) is an antisemitic[1] German Nazi propaganda film[2], posing as a documentary. Its title in German is Der ewige Jude, the German term for the character of the "Wandering Jew" in medieval folklore. At the insistence of Nazi Germany's Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, the film was directed by Fritz Hippler. The screenplay is credited to Eberhard Taubert. The film consists of feature and documentary footage combined with materials filmed shortly after the Nazi occupation of Poland. At this time Poland's Jewish population was about three million, roughly ten percent of the total population...
...The movie was produced in the style of a documentary, the central thesis being the immutable racial personality traits that, according to Nazi doctrine, characterize the Jew as a wandering cultural parasite...
Signs of the Coming Holocaust (portions of Der ewige Jude) [09:42] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrK2CJ-TJvQ
June 18, 2010 7:48 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "the central thesis being the immutable racial personality traits that, according to Nazi doctrine, characterize the Jew as a wandering cultural parasite..." - Wikipedia article on The Eternal Jew (1940)
NETANYAHU'S FATHER (2009): "...The Bible finds no worse image than this of the man from the desert. And why? Because he has no respect for any law. Because in the desert he can do as he pleases. The tendency towards conflict is in the essence of the Arab. He is an enemy by essence. His personality won’t allow him any compromise or agreement. It doesn’t matter what kind of resistance he will meet, what price he will pay. His existence is one of perpetuate war..." - Benzion Netanyahu, 2009 interview
SOURCE OF NETANYAHU'S FATHER'S WORDS - http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2009/04/04/bibis-fathers-answer-to-the-arab-problem-hang-em-in-the-town-square/
June 18, 2010 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
MJ, that is the worst agit prop I've ever seen, and I've been to the Financial Follies!
Gotta warn us not to click when you embed bad stuff.
June 18, 2010 7:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
I realize now there are only two kinds of folks in the world. Elvis Costello and, despite his talent, is so J Street. But, there are also the gems, the one-and-only Elton Johns, the rare birds who just don't give a fuc2 what is the politically correct thing to do, but does the right thing as he sees it in his heart. Sir Elton is my kind of guy, although his playing in Israel is so AIPAC.
Damm the torpedos. Storm the windmills.
June 18, 2010 8:09 PM | Reply | Permalink
all that proves is that gay-rights proponent elton john can be bought for a price. elton played for the homophobe and AIDS-denier rush limbaugh's wedding for one million dollars serenading sean hannity, rudolph guliani, and karl rove and 400 hundred other assorted salted nuts.
June 18, 2010 8:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
blue, are you the kind of lefty who thinks Senator Byrd is hunky dory cause he's a lefty? So, being a grand kleagle of the white knights of the KKK is kosher if your a democrat? Good Jews/bad Jews. Good gays/gay sell outs. What's next: wasps behaving badly?
June 18, 2010 8:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
byrd has a racist past. whether he is still a racist only his hairdresser knows for sure. i'm agnostic in terms of political parties. i support whoever is principled and moves the ball forward in terms of equality and freedom.
oh! is your mind really beyond seeing things as good and bad?
June 18, 2010 9:04 PM | Reply | Permalink
While there is such a thing as beyond good and bad, there is also unadulterated evil, and the truth. Not everything is gray.
But, blue, you may have made a Freudian slip when you state, "i support the whoever is principled and moves the ball forward in terms of equality and freedom...."
That's quite a statement; you sounded just a bit like Bush there for a moment, or even a neocon at Commentary. Guard you back, blue, you never know when the obturate stalinists might out you for heretical views.
June 18, 2010 9:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
you are equating true freedom and equality with the cynical and orwellian use of those terms by bush and the neocons. fool's gold can fool people only because real gold exists.
the movement of the soul of humanity is to manifest equality and freedom just as a plant grows and moves towards the sun. this movement is inescapable, unavoidable, and transcends the kabuki theatrics of individuals and societies.
it's friday. enough posting. have tea!
June 18, 2010 10:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "It should be noted that these racist videos, though receiving the AIPAC imprimatur, are made by Jerusalem Post columnist Carolyn Glick." - M.J.
ALSO SEE: Caroline Glick’s “We Con the World” and the Tea Partying of the US-Israel relationship, By Didi Remez, Coteret, 06/06/10
(excerpt)...The kind of US audience Glick appeals to is illustrated by the fact that Latma is fully funded by Center for Security Policy’s Middle East Media program, headed by Frank Gaffney, and that Pastor John Hagee’s Christians United for Israel (CUFI) was quick to post the video on its website.
The growing importance of the Israeli nodes of American neo and theo conservative networks is not new and regular readers of Coteret know that we have followed it closely. But the reception this clip has received in Israel was surprising...
ENTIRE ARTICLE - http://coteret.com/2010/06/06/caroline-glicks-we-con-the-world-and-the-tea-partying-of-the-us-israel-relationship/
June 18, 2010 11:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
No, it is you who are using Orwellian Kabuki theatrics. Is there a dime's worth of difference between Obama's Iraqi policy and Bush's? Is there a dime's worth of realistic difference from what we are doing in Kabul and the Afghan hilltops, and in Pakistan? Perhaps Obama is more aggressive in his predator campaign; otherwise, not a dime's worth of policy difference.
Neocons also supported action in Darfur and, in support of Muslims, in Albania. Did you know that, or does the semantic distinction of a person's philosophy repulse you to that degree?
No, I'm just a dumbo lefty. Neocon Bad. Except where we agree. You neocon, bad. Smart, really smart.
The world is not full of a movement of the soul of humanity or it urge to manifest equality and freedom, just like that pretty plant. You sound like President Wilson, or some naive neo-wilsonian, or true neocon. Again, you doth protest to much. Embrace your inner neocon. Dress British; think Yiddish.
"The movement of the soul of humanity is to manifest equality and freedom just a plant grows and moves forward the sun...." Seriously, you should write for my favorite online journal Commentary.
June 18, 2010 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
Dick, don't religious Christians have a right to fund any thing they want? and to lobby to their hearts content? There is no hidden hidden, nefarious alliance between religious Christians and right-wing Israelis; it's right there in the open.
I'm always amazed at the talk against the Israeli Lobby.
It's a right.
It's supported by a majority of the country, if not a very large group of people.
How could you control it, repeal it, make it illegal, and not destroy what is sacred about America.(I'm sure many are passionate on the issue of abortion or gun control, but never question the fucking right to lobby).
Lobbying allow freedom of speech(even what is perceived as hurtful speech).
You have your right to lobby against the lobby, but the 20 plus million Christian evangelicals also have their right to lobby for what they believe in.
Interesting. What really seems to piss liberals off is when the Israelis laugh at and satirize the worlds indignation over the peaceful travelers and Assad, The Turkish Holocaust denier(1.5 million dead Armenians), and the Iranian Holocaust denier(6 million Jews).
Interesting indeed. what's offensive is not that the Iranian dictator threatens Israel with destruction, murders and rapes her own green election protestors. No, to satirize him is beyond decency.
June 19, 2010 12:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Dick, don't religious Christians have a right to fund any thing they want? and to lobby to their hearts content?" - David Oberlander
MY COMMENT: I agree. You're absolutely right! And Dominionism is far more dangerous than the 'Likud Lobby'. In fact, I'd call it an "existental threat" to the U.S.!
DOMINIONISM - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism
ALSO SEE: The New Christian Zionism and the Jews, By Rachel Tabachnich, Public Eye, Winter 09/Spring 10 Edition
(excerpt) In late October, Holocaust survivor and Nobel Peace laureate Elie Wiesel spoke at a Christians United for Israel (CUFI) event hosted by the controversial Christian Zionist John Hagee at his Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas. Internationally broadcast on GodTV, Hagee presented $9 million in donations to 29 Israeli and U.S. Jewish organizations.[1] Hagee is one of the world’s most successful televangelists and a prolific author who prophesizes that apocalyptic wars and the migration of Jews to the holy land will help trigger the return of Jesus and his thousand-year reign on earth.
Wiesel joins a long list of Jews and Israelis who show no discomfort at being in the center of someone else’s apocalyptic religious vision. Making common cause with Christian Zionists are the lobby group American Israel Political Action Committee, which hosted Hagee as a conference keynote speaker in 2007, and Israeli ambassador Michael Oren, who attended a CUFI summit last July...
ENTIRE ARTICLE - http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v24n4/jews-new-christian-zionism.html
June 19, 2010 8:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
Elton John in Israel. God bless him.
Query to the cafe: how many brave musicians have cancelled their US tour dates due to the countless thousand dead and dying civilians in Iraq and in Pakistan as a result of the Predator attacks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc_NkLrDWi8&feature=player_embedded#!
June 19, 2010 12:08 AM | Reply | Permalink
In the words of Elton John, "ain't going to stop me from coming here, baby." Don't worry, tpm, I'm sure the Jihad train against Israel will continue....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT0WmEwiCy0&feature=related
June 19, 2010 12:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Test troll post encapsulating all of the love of Jews out there, uniting the hard left with the hard right.
1. What Israel is doing in Gaza is like the Warsaw Ghetto.
2. The Israelis are the new Nazis.
3. Rahm is an IDF officer and served in the IDF.
4. I don't have anything against the Jews, just Israel and the millions of ancillary ramifications.
5. Right wing Jews, neocons and nut job Christians control the US Government's foreign policy towards Israel.
6. Are government is controlled by 'The Lobby'.
7. The Israelis spied on us prior to 911 and knew what was happening.
8. The IDF purposefully killed Americans on the USS Liberty. It was no mistake.
9. False Flag operations against America by the Israelis are nothing new. Exhibit 1. The Lavon Affair.
10. The Israelis are racist.
11. There are countless Jewish Americans with dual loyalties. They are little better than spies and must be expunged.
12. AIPAC spies on America.
13. J Street is an improvement, but that's not saying much. They still support zionist aggression/occupation.
14. There has never been such a brutal occupation as Israel has bestowed upon the Palestinians.
15. If only it weren't for those rich democratic fundraisers, Obama would be free to cut off aid to Israel.
16. Obama is just a pawn of the zionists.
17. Discussing the lobby is dangerous business. It takes moxie and daring to fight Israel and their minions.... a real where eagles dare business....
18. I can't stand progressives who are progressive in everything except Israel.
Am I forgetting anything? Please add to the list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22CGlF7l5MI&feature=channel
June 19, 2010 12:45 AM | Reply | Permalink
More 'racism' from Latma....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPPawcPXwDo&feature=channel
June 19, 2010 12:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Man, this stuff is right out of 1930's Central Europe!" - M.J.
FROM SAUL LANDAU, 06/18/10: ...Prime Minister Bubi Notinmyard authorized the commando attack against humanitarian aid ships after reading massive amounts of public data about the intent of the mission. Aid mission organizers made their break-Israel’s blockade motive clear. He studied the 1947 experience of the British ship, Exodus, by reading Leon Uris’ novel by that name, in which Jewish refugees attempt to travel to Palestine from a British detention camp in Cyprus.
The novel and film made the British look bad because the ship got too close to the Promised Land. Israelis appeared as noble and brave; Arabs as slimy brutes with Nazi bosses.
Rabbi Bubi then applied his University of Chelm wisdom. Allowing ships carrying non-military goods to break Israel’s blockade of Gaza could have won him world approval.
But what was an abstract gain to win world approval compared to showing the world who is boss? So he discarded his own foreign ministry warning of the “illegality” of the planned seizure of boats in international waters. (Barak Ravid, Haaretz June 10) Bibi instead applied the moral of a story about the importance of control – as a principle.
The woman boasted to her female friends how she dominated her husband. “Crawl under that table,” she demanded.
The Chelm man obeyed.
“Now, come out!” she ordered.
“No, I refuse,” he challenged. “I'll show you who is boss here!”
ENTIRE ARTICLE - http://www.counterpunch.org/landau06182010.html
June 19, 2010 1:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
Counterpunch. Lots of good stuff there. No anti-semitism at all. Nothing at all to see... moving right along. Mazel Tov.
June 19, 2010 2:03 AM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Counterpunch. Lots of good stuff there. No anti-semitism at all." - David Oberlander
MY COMMENT: Saul Landau is Jewish, so I suppose that makes him a "Self-hating Jew". Right? Same for Rob Kall and Medea Benjamin?
The Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show Podcast, OpEd News, 06/02/10
Medea Benjamin, Co-founder Code Pink, on Israel's flotilla attack, BP Gulf Catastrophe and Code Pink
LINK - http://www.opednews.com/Podcast/Medea-Benjamin-Co-founder-by-Rob-Kall-100602-8.html
June 19, 2010 8:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Caroline Glick is a real piece of work, she is a sort of "by Tennessee Williams out of Bud Schulberg" character, her columns often have a borderline hysteria of the paranoiac, Chicken Little, "sky is falling" variety. A sort of Daniel Pipes with hot flashes: a type of lady my Victorian granny would have called "high strung".
Thank you for giving her a roast MJ; you can do it without being labeled an antisemite.
June 19, 2010 12:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can someone tell me what exactly racist in this clip ?
3 fascists who need to end their life like their former buddy - Saddam Hussein
Mad dogs -
KUL KALB BIJI YUMO - لكل كلب يومه
כל כלב בא יומו
every dog has his day!
June 19, 2010 5:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
RE: "Can someone tell me what exactly racist in this clip?"
MY REPLY: Res ipsa loquitur!
ELUCIDATION: US Stands, and Lies, With Israel ~ By Ira Chernus,
t r u t h o u t, 06/19/10
(excerpt)...In his talk to Likud, Netanyahu put it in a broader and more dramatic historical frame. "There is a difficult and continuing struggle against Israel being led by the country's enemies.... Dark forces from the Middle Ages are raging against us," he warned ominously.
Netanyahu is usually content to equate all critics of Israel with Nazis and charge that another Holocaust is in the making. Now, though, he conjures up a much larger history of oppression going back to the Middle Ages, identifying Israel's critics not merely with Hitler, but with ten centuries or more of anti-Semitic persecution, violence and rage...
ENTIRE ARTICLE - http://www.truth-out.org/us-stands-and-lies-with-israel60491
June 19, 2010 7:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
"even when we seek revenge, it is imperative to remember that a thousand Arabs are not worth one yeshiva student." Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu
June 20, 2010 12:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Glick must have been lauded for her 'We are the World' parody. More's the pity, as she has ramped up her sick non-humor with this one.
It makes a person feel dirty watching it. Shame on her and her ilk.
June 19, 2010 11:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Another treehugger !
June 20, 2010 7:48 AM | Reply | Permalink
I learned to prefer to hug a tree
Than be obliged to hug one like thee.
June 20, 2010 10:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is so much evil in the world, why do you pick on us?
(thief to policeman) " there are so many thieves out there why do you pick on me"
see where this is going???
nowhere
June 19, 2010 11:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
AIPAC never should've touched this, which I think is MJ's point, but I don't believe this clip is so heinous. It's crude and kind of vaudeville but it's political satire, and to my eyes, not particularly racist. Google Julius Streicher if you want to see racist.
To me, the extension of Turkey's reach into the Middle East is a good thing, even if it does nothing beyond shake the situation up somehow, or -- even more importantly, shake up America's policies which are now simply adding to the gridlock and, in a word, useless.
But there's no way Israel's going to get down with Turkey as the new peace (or is that power?) broker in the Middle East, so somebody could've turned out far worse than this piece -- which is more silly and, as others have pointed out, far-fetched in terms of historial reach than anything else. We may see worse in time, but I'd hold the outrage till then.
June 20, 2010 10:56 AM | Reply | Permalink