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It's a standard AIPAC statement. Except this one is blasting the United States and not the Arabs. Not a word criticizing Israel, not a word supporting the President or the US government. It's an incredible document.

This is the lobbying position AIPAC will be selling to Congress. It will be urging super pro-AIPAC legislators like DCCC chair Chris Van Hollen, Anthony Wiener, Alan Grayson, Howard Berman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Steny Hoyer etc to sign on to this statement as they have always backed Israel in the past (see Gaza war). Same with Boxer, Schumer, and others who never deviate from he AIPAC line. Donors will be calling.

AIPAC statements on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict always describe a crisis and then explain how it was caused by the Muslims (Arabs, Palestinians, Turks, whatever) and then offers a remedy. The remedy: do whatever Israel wants.

Same here only this time AIPAC is dealing with the United States about a crisis instigated by Israel's attempt to stick it to the United States and demands that WE stop it. There is, as always, not a word of criticism of Israel. In other words, the United States can be wrong (I agree), is often wrong (I agree), should be criticized when wrong (I agree) but Israel is always right and may not be criticized (I disagree). EXCERPTS.

The Obama Administration's recent statements regarding the U.S. relationship with Israel are a matter of serious concern. AIPAC calls on the Administration to take immediate steps to defuse the tension with the Jewish State.

The Administration should make a conscious effort to move away from public demands and unilateral deadlines directed at Israel, with whom the United States shares basic, fundamental, and strategic interests.

We strongly urge the Administration to work closely and privately with our partner Israel, in a manner befitting strategic allies, to address any issues between the two governments.


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The Biggsest newspaper in USA also Blast Obama Administration


the Obama Administration has endorsed "healthy relations" between Iran and Syria, mildly rebuked Syrian President Bashar Assad for accusing the U.S. of "colonialism," and publicly apologized to Moammar Gadhafi for treating him with less than appropriate deference after the Libyan called for "a jihad" against Switzerland.

When it comes to Israel, however, the Administration has no trouble rising to a high pitch of public indignation.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704416904575121710380216280.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop

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This is perfectly understandable when one remembers that AIPAC members and supporters consider than loyalty to Israel is more important that loyalty to the United States.
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First : Why to stuck the "AIPAC mantra" to everywhere - The WSJ is not connected to AIPAC whatsoever

Second: "AIPAC members and supporters consider than loyalty to Israel is more important that loyalty to the United States."

Who said that there is conflict of interests OR loyalty between Israel and the U.S.

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You are not American. Who are you to tell us whether a conflict of interest exists between your FOREIGN state and our country?

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And you are Not Israeli - so STFU !

I am waiting for your mantra about "Israel live by the hand of the Americans " as response to this message

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Does a hugely funded American-rightwing-kook lobby apparatus tell the members of the Israel Knesset what to say and do, and use intimidation, blackmail, and character assassination against them whenever they fail to toe its line? I don't think so, Mr. Setter Tool.

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Here's my image of the dude: He's like that little dog that barks reelly loud as long as you stay on the other side of the fence.

If Israel is so very important to the USA, then why do they need to lobby so hard?

We know why the Saudis lobby. It takes a lot of money to convince Americans that women need chaperones to venture outside and should be denied drivers licences.

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A little dog of the pedigree of AnnaA, but with a shriller bark and less cutting and pasting.

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I guess they didn't teach him to cut-and-paste before he boarded his Aeroflot plane from Novgorod.

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Shut them down..No more money..Get this over --BiBi lost his job the last time he was this arrogant!

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And Where is he Now ?
In the same Job !
In my Opinion BB (As BHO) is a crook - as almost all the politicians

Both of them know to talk the talk , but in actions they are both liars, arrogants , chickens , spineless and think that they are the Messiah

But I support My country Not BB.


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Seems like you are asking for loyalty to the Obama Administration and the Democratic Party, not the US Government. The usual "dual loyalty" racist canard is always played when those who support the State of Israel are opposed to wrong-headed and hypocritical whipping of Jews because our current US government wants to follow the PA line of making Palestine Jew-free. We, in America, stand for the freedom of political speech - Johann clearly does not understand that. Are those that despised Bush and his policies disloyal to America? Are you suggesting a loyalty oath? And how loyal are the PA to America - or do a large number of people in the PA and Gaza areas support the enemies of the US?

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The Wall Street Journal editorial page is very proud to be a far-right-wing nuthouse. It is designed for crazy people like you. However "big" it is by whatever measure you are using is irrelevant.

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At least they are not close to bankruptcy as your favorite NYT & Haaretz !

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As if that matters. It's too bad you couldn't find employment doing something constructive. I pity you.

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Yeah, I loved the WSJ's Clinton-as-murderer editorials, too. Their propaganda is as blatant as yours. Goodness you are pathetic.

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You give yourself away so easily as a propagandist by quoting Murdoch's anti-Obama sounding board aka Wall Street Journal as "Biggest newspaper of USA bashing Obama". Just like you'd call faux news the biggest TV channel in the USA too huh?

If there's a better way for you to scream to anyone reading your post to ignore you, I can't think of it.

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I second this point. At the end of the day, as much as we love our facts and rights, the loyalties may vary and differ amongst men and women. Instead of addressing the issue head on, we must work around it and see how far we can go ahead in peace.

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AIPAC should have taken the opportunity to say something like Tom Friedman in the paper of record.

“Message from America to the Israeli government: Friends don’t let friends drive drunk. And right now, you’re driving drunk. You think you can embarrass your only true ally in the world, to satisfy some domestic political need, with no consequences? You have lost total contact with reality. Call us when you’re serious. We need to focus on building our country.”

Instead, AIPAC said "Let's have one for the road."

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Tom Friedman is An idiot (As most of the readers here said that in the past including MJ) who think he know everything - Semi-GOD .
In reality all his predictions and analysis worth shit !

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We get it Israel is always right, can do no wrong and american should just support what ever they do.

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No Israel is not always right
- Nobody said that
BUT
When the clown of Libya call for "Jihad" against Switzerland - The American lapdog didn't do nothing -Actually They do the opposite - Say sorry to The Drug addict clown Kadaffi

But with Israel (The easy fight) the American Allow themselves raising pitch !

This is pathetic

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We don't provide Libya with foreign aid or guarantee its security. You are truly a nitwit.

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So ? Calling for "Jihad" is OK for Americans if it's not involved with American money ?

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Well, there is plenty of US aid going to the PA and to Egypt. They NEVER do anything that is against the wishes of the President of the US - lol. Remember, if the Palestinians actually wanted peace, they would have gotten it years ago. Look at Gaza - Israel did what the US demanded of it and Hamas decided that it didn't want peace. What makes you think it would be different with the West Bank, let alone Jerusalem which is currently PART of Israel - NOT an occupied territory. Obama has said "It is not acceptable for Jerusalem to be separate from Israel - along the lines of the 1967 border - that is not going to be an option". I also note that Jerusalem, including East Jerusalem, was excluded from the US instituted freeze on natural settlement development. In her election campaign for President (and in her tenure as US Senator, Hillary Clinton proclaimed that Israel has a right to have an undivided Jerusalem as its capital. So, I'm for Obama's and Hillary's policy before they became against it and started bowing down to the PA.

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Libya on Wednesday demanded an apology for a joking remark by a U.S. official about the Libyan leader's call for a holy war against Switzerland.

Last month Moammar Gadhafi appealed for a Muslim holy war because Switzerland banned building of new mosque minarets.

At the Friday State Department briefing, spokesman Philip Crowley said he was reminded of Ghadafi's speech at the U.N. in September, noting, "I can recall lots of words and lots of papers flying all over the place, not necessarily a lot of sense."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/03/ap/africa/main6262776.shtml

I would say laughing at Ghadafi was exactly the right response.

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Sorry for the false link

this is the link :


"State Department spokesman Philip Krauli apologized after he told journalists that he does not remember "much sense" in the speech of the ruler of Libya "

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/079/515.html

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Wait. Your panties are in a bunch because a State Dept Spokesman regretted the use of undiplomatic language? and you conceive this as a threat to the holy Israel-US alliance? Where the hell is your sense of proportionality?

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"No Israel is not always right
- Nobody said that "

Oh, certainly not! But Israel *is* right in trying solve its problems by authorizing 1600 new illegal homes while "proxmity talks" toward peace are to be opened, right?

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Did I count the number homes the American bulid illegally on Texas (occupied Mexican territory ) ?

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So then you agree with the statement. Israel is right to do this.

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WTF does that have anything to do with Israel? Sorry kid, but you're living in the wrong century.

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Symmetry My friends
, When American today occupy 2 countries (Iraq & Afghanistan ) Killing in the last 8 years hundred of thousands of ppl

You are not in position to lecture anyone about "Occupation"

Very simple - I know it's hard for ppl like you to absorb that !

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Well, there's some truth to that. Friedman is an idiot and most of his predictions are garbage. Even here, his outrage seems to be in part over the fact that a US Vice President was dissed--Friedman tends to identify with the powerful and so an insult to the VP is an insult to him.

For once, his pathology puts Friedman on the right side of an issue.

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We are in rare agreement on the limitations of columnist Friedman, although I would not go nearly as far as you have. He has his good days, and his not-so good ones. Still waiting, however, for a link in READABLE ENGLISH on the Kadaffi flap. Much ado about nothing it seems, but a tangible indication to the contrary might exist (though you haven't yet supplied it)

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Further: The Angriest Man in Israel fails to notice that Lubya being pissed at Switzerland has jack squat to do with the USA.

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Learn Hebrew

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In the highly unlikely event that I ever post on an Israeli website anything remotely akin to the diarrhea of nonsense you are dumping here, I will try harder to use polite Hebrew than you are capable of using proper English.

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So you're demanding that Americans learn Hebrew in order to become more supportive of Israel?

And how many Americans exactly do you hope to win over with your newfound argument in support of the Israeli cause?

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No, PRToub ask me for a link in English , and the only link I have was In English translated by Google translate (Heblish) And He say It's not readable , so I offer him to learn Hebrew!

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Then why are you here? If Israel's actions are so admirable, they wouldn't have to sic dishonest AIPAC stooges on American citizens having a frank discussion about our foreign policy. If you really want to help Israel, then intellectual honesty would be a good place to start. Stop making excuses and look inward.

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ESCALATION


PM: Construction in J'lem to continue just like in past 42 years
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Netanyahu keeps strong position despite American pressure. Says 'cabinet's decision to end construction freeze after 10 months remains standing'

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3863018,00.html

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Hi C9, I see you are up to your old mischief again :-)

Is this your daytime or merely voluntary PR job as part of the Mark Regev Department? I think most people see through the coordination although you must be kept on your toes watching for all these posts to appear so that you are first in line to denounce, obfuscate, insult etc. I am not even American but I find it hard to see any logic in your justification, but of course I still have a lot to learn. . . . .

BTW is that your running score in your signature e.g. c(aptured)9d(rowned)w(aterboarded)8 or something - just curious

best wishes for a peaceful middle

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I have lots of free time in my JOB (All the social network like facebook,utube or any streaming website OR XXX site are blocked so I Spend my time in news sites) - So I spend sometimes here fighting trolls !

C9dw2rm8 is My Mossad code - Be aware -
"The notebook is open and the Hand is writing" - so be careful! :-)

best wishes for a peaceful middle

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If you have so much free time, I guess that means that someone else is watching out for shoplifters at the adult video store.

BTW, are you taller on Facebook than in real life? I just have this image that your Facebook picture looks like Pierce Brosnan, but in real life you look like Wallace Shawn.

If so, I feel your pain. I'm no Pierce Brosnan either.

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What , there is a facebook for c9dw2rm8 ??
publish link - I didn't find it !

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Hey numb nuts, you ARE the troll

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Welcome aboard ,
I love you to !

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Thanks once again, MJ, for the timely report. I'd hate to think that it would take something anywhere remotely approaching a military dictatorship to finally liberate America from AIPAC, but at least a degree of common sense still prevails with the chiefs of staff.

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This Israeli troll is terrible. He seems genuinely earnest, but he's such an arrogant idiot, and makes his arguments so unappealing, I wonder if he's real.

I suppose c9dw2rm8 just wants to throw enough poo to discourage discussion and drive readers away from this blog. A fit spokesperson for a country it seems is bent on isolating itself.

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Welcome aboard , Nice to meet you !

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"Israeli troll" - translated as "Jewish troll". Anyone who provides a counterbalance to your biased nonsense is a "troll" or an "Israeli" or some other "hateful" word. In the US, we have a tradition of free speech and open discussion. You evidently appreciate the extremist dictate of branding those who disagree with you with a nasty name. This is similar to the behavior of Ahmadinejad, who has similar positions to you on the Israeli issue. I presume you follow him wholesale on the issues of suppression of women (beating those who don't dress modestly) and murder of gays (hanging those who are found to be homosexual). Do you also agree with the government support of honor killings in Gaza?

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Harry,

To not offend your sensibilities, how best would you describe the poster aka c9dw2rm8's ? He certainly appears to be an antagonistic troll. How best would you characterize his leanings?

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I see that Eric Cantor has immediately jumped up and toed the AIPAC line.

No surprises there....

I guess if you want to find a patsy to hit over the head with the "what's more important, Israeli apartments in Jersualem or the lives of US soldiers?" then Eric Cantor's skull is as good a place as any to start.

Bring Petreaus back for some Congressional hearings, and then tell him that when he is to fire both barrels at Cantor.

Let's see how loyal to Israel Cantor is when the lives of US servicemen and women is put on the line.

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"take immediate steps to defuse tensions..."

Quite stern language. Reminds me "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man"

His mother said --O Stephen will apologize.

Dante said -- O if not, the eagle will come and pull out his eyes

Otherwise we can suffer dire consequences. As an Israeli observed "Arab have the oil, Israel has the matches". Israel can bomb something in Iran, just enough to prompt her leaders to close the Strait of Hormuz, pull strings to send both Iraq and hitherto quietest parts of Afghanistan in flames etc.

Just in case, all you guys, prepare plan B for commuting with 6 dollars a gallon gas.

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piotr: "Israel can bomb something in Iran, just enough to prompt her leaders to close the Strait of Hormuz, pull strings to send both Iraq and hitherto quietest parts of Afghanistan in flames etc."

Oh, and you've ALSO sent that script to the Iranians, have you?

Your logic appears to be this: IF Israel bombs Iran "just a little bit" then the Iranians will cause "just enough trouble" to (and how lucky is this!) serve Israel's purpose.

But what happens if Israel bombs Iran "just a little bit", and in retaliation Iran fires 100,000 missiles at Tel Aviv at the same time as it sends 1,000,000 soldiers screaming into Iraq with instructions that read "don't stop until you reach Israel".

What happens then, piotr?

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My preamble was supposed to signal snark mode.

In any case, either scenario (piotr, Johnboy4546) is quite dire, and efforts should be made to prevent them.

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" not a word supporting the President or the US government"

I bet you backed Bush...right?

Grow up.

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Regarding Petraeus and his presentation to the Joint Chiefs....

I'll point out that he is giving testimony to the Senate Arms Services Committee right this instant, and his prepared statement is here:
http://armed-services.senate.gov/statemnt/2010/03%20March/Petraeus%2003-16-10.pdf

And in it Petraeus states (blandly) the same thing that he stated (presumably, much more bluntly) in that presentation to Mullen.

In particular:
"The conflict foments anti-American sentiment, due to a perception of U.S. favoritism for Israel. Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples in the AOR and weakens the legitimacy of moderate regimes in the Arab world. Meanwhile, al-Qaeda and other militant groups exploit that anger to mobilize support."

Here's hoping that the committee members actually earn their keep by asking him to explain at legth on that statement.

Though I imagine if they do so they'll head behind closed doors before asking the General to kick back and let fly....

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