The Difference Between Talking Tough and Acting Smart
Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ) is Chair of the Select Intelligence Oversight Panel.
As we have seen since the attempted terrorist attack on Northwest Flight 253, there are those who never will understand the difference between talking tough and acting smart. Instead of using the near-tragedy above Detroit as fodder for political fundraising letters, we in and out of government should be making sure our intelligence and law enforcement organizations are working smoothly to guard against attacks like that.
Since the 9/11 Commission issued its report, there have been some real improvements in America's counterterrorism capabilities, but as President Obama has acknowledged, a key deficiency remains: intelligence and law enforcement personnel do not seem to be able to tell real threats from imagined ones and to share the relevant information. The President mandated reports from National Security Council advisor John Brennan and Secretary of Homeland Security Napolitano about the specific recent occurrence. That is good. And Congress must also look at the specifics to determine how someone on the TIDE watchlist and who buys a last minute ticket with cash and checks no bags can get on a flight without the most careful scrutiny. As the chair of the Select Intelligence Oversight Panel and a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, I am pursuing those investigations.
The real question goes beyond the specifics of Mr. Abdulmutallab's attempted bombing. The real question is why is it possible to do something so similar to what happened a decade ago and that America swore would not be allowed to happen again. Why do the agencies still not share the relevant information? I think it has to do with the flawed conception of the problem and resulting misguided approach to dealing with it.
Former Vice President Cheney, the architect of America's failed foreign policy and mistaken intelligence policy of the past eight years, suggests that the root cause is that President Obama has not spoken belligerently enough about this, that he does not call it a war on terror. Indeed, that is how Cheney and his boss looked at the problem. What was needed, they asserted, was military belligerence.
And there is where we got off track. There is less motivation for sharing information about a father walking into an embassy to say his son has gone dangerously off the deep end if you really believe the problem will be solved by warfighting on some distant front. It is possible that military action could have been effective eight years ago when the previous Administration failed to follow through to remove bin Laden from Tora Bora in 2001. By failing to remove the figurehead and operational leaders of al Qaeda, and instead diverting to a war of choice in Iraq, they gave al Qaeda and its affiliates a new growth opportunity. They then proceeded to try to use military and paramilitary means in a few areas to counter then dispersed opponents who are not susceptible to military defeat.
Our country confronts an implacable and dispersed al Qaeda threat, and the tools of war have proved ineffective against it. This is not to minimize the strength or the viciousness of the threat. We are fighting a pernicious idea that is motivating people like Abdulmutallab. The tools of war are not what would have stopped Abdulmutallab. It is vigilance. (As it happened, it was the vigilance and courage of civilians on the plane who thwarted the act, because the official agents had not been vigilant enough.) We won't defeat the idea with Hellfire missiles, whether in the Afghanistan border areas or in Yemen, missiles which too frequently can miss their intended targets and kill others. And even if they hit the target it is a Pyrrhic victory. I have lost count of how many times we have heard that the al Qaeda Number 3 has been killed.
Do not misunderstand; this is not just a polite clash of ideas. It is deadly and deadly serious. We need our intelligence and law enforcement communities to gather information about radical movements, identify training, penetrate cells, disrupt, discredit, and eliminate those who would harm Americans and innocents anywhere. But most of the work necessarily is unglamorous, meticulous watching and analyzing. Prior to 2001, too much of the thinking in intelligence agencies had been the Cold War spy-versus-spy maneuvering and now too much of it is the warfighting mentality that replaced it over the past eight years. The failure to share information in 2001 was that the intelligence community was still in the Cold War mentality. The failure to share information this month was that the intelligence community had replaced the Cold War mentality with a warfighting one. If the focus is on "kinetic action" it shapes how you evaluate and value information. How irrelevant the movements of disciples of an extremist must seem when the focus is on assassinating him. How unimportant the denial of a visa must seem if what really counts is warfighting. A watchlist takes on less importance at an airport if the purpose of it is thought to be identifying an assassination target on a distant frontier rather than sidetracking a would-be bomber.
It is Cheney, not President Obama, who has misdiagnosed the problem and gotten us off track.
Obama is escalating the war in Afghanistan and sending Hellfires everywhere, because he needs to be perceived as tough so he doesn't lose the next election.
It is not just Cheney who is the problem here.
January 5, 2010 9:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
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But who is the "well-dressed man", Mr. Holt?
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Some of our academic neighbours who have been our friends for many years want us to wake up to the possibility that the global war on terror is phoney, not real.
The Congress should be the first to know this, not the last.
How does the statement "the Pentagon is perhaps the owner of more land than anyone else in the world" come across to you Rep. Holt?
January 5, 2010 11:05 AM | Reply | Permalink
Does this idiot Rush Holt actually live in a tree?
Holt apparently thinks that one psycho with explosives in his underpants is "so similar" to 9/11, which involved 19 hijackers coordinated all over the Unitd States for six months and finally converging exactly on schedule with sufficient training to overpower the crews of four airliners and fly them into skyscrapers and the Pentagon.
Rep. Holt probably also thinks that a mouse is "so similar" to an elephant, and his ass is "so similar" to his elbow, and the most salient question about his silly article is...
Why do we keep electing idiots like Rush Holt?
And that guy is Chair of the Select Intelligence Oversight Panel?
God help us!
January 5, 2010 12:42 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah and the torcher of his Family Jewels will probably inspire a whole new bevy of intrusive (unconstitutional?) laws, courtesy of a Congress now controlled by the D's, to protect us from people who hate their genitals. Because the D's have 'prove' they are as serious about trampling on our freedom in the misplaced effort to protect us as the R's are.
January 5, 2010 12:55 PM | Reply | Permalink
Ruta - you are the idiot - did you ever hear of the shoe bomber - your posts are provocative, racist(not this one but others), and inaccurate.
Try getting an education before you critic one of the smartest people in Congress.
Rush Holt is a physicist who taught a Princeton before he served in Congress
January 5, 2010 1:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Moonwood forgot to mention that Rep. Holt also won five rounds of Jeopardy on TV!
And Moonwood also forgot to explain why this gear-head Congressman ridiculously exaggerated the threat posed by Abdulmutallab by comparing that poor boob to the 9/11 hijackers.
But Moonwood didn't forget to identify himself or herself as an unusually dim-witted Obamabot, by playing the race card even in this ludicrously inappropriate context.
So it isn't surprising that Moonwood wildly overestimates the intelligence of politicians like Obama and Rush Holt, just like my dog thinks I'm a genius, because I can open a can of dog-food.
January 5, 2010 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
And I have to thank Moonwood for that flashback to primary season on Daily Kos, when every comment critical of Obama was disappeared by fanatics for their hypocritical Messiah.
But unfortunately for you and your playmates, Moonwood, there are no "hide ratings" on TPMCafe, and here you're nothing.
January 5, 2010 2:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Moonwood did reply to your silly assertion that Holt was comparing Abdulmutallab to 9/11, which was absolutley incorrect. Holt was comparing Abdulmutallab to Richard Reid the shoe bomber and NOT 9/11. Unfortunately you seemed to lack the knowledge needed to comprehend the article correctly. Richard Reid' attack MO was the same as Abdulmutallab's except Reid put the explosive in his shoe instead of his crotch. Why do you think you have to take off you shoes now when you fly? You think the TSA agents have a foot fetish?
January 5, 2010 2:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rep. Holt's post is filled with 9/11 references. Every time there is a discourse about our terrorism policies, no matter what, 9/11 will be used as the backdrop. Using 9/11 as a scarecrow is the only way our politicians can possibly justify asking us to give up more of our freedom...
January 5, 2010 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
9/11 was invoked exactly 1 time in the article in reference to the commission report following that event so I hardly find that "filled with 9/11 references". Now if you are making a point of trading freedoms for security I see that as a valid issue to be concerned with. Exactly which freedoms have you given up? Full body scans/searches in the airport? Does the constitution really guarantee us the right to tell a business how they can act in protecting their customers from harm? I think not. No one is forcing you to get on that airplane. Can we tell the government how best to protect us from threats and attacks? As long as the techniques are deemed legal I don't think we can. Do we have the right to board the private property of another entity carrying whatever we want? No for that as well. Can we tell them not to wire tap without a warrant or to not torture to gain information? Yes to those. I see the right as jacking up the "scarecrow" tactics and the left trying to lower the rhetoric and getting blasted for it being more rational. I see this article as laying out a more reasoned approach to fight terrorism than we had from the previous administration. I fail to see what is so objectionable to what Holt has said.
January 5, 2010 4:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Does the constitution really guarantee us the right to tell a business how they can act in protecting their customers from harm?"
Yes, in fact it does. Something about illegal search and seizure. And since the searches are at the behest of our government it does apply.
"As long as the techniques are deemed legal I don't think we can."
Deemed legal? By who? The SCOTUS? The same ones who brought us Santa Clara and Buckley? Jefferson was right the danger Marbury v Madison represented.
I think we have been given all the tools we need to address the problem. They were given to us by our founders and we don't need to find a 'new way'...we just need to get back to basics.
January 5, 2010 5:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
So you think it's the airlines that object to the tightened security and not a very limited number of vocal people? I would believe that any business would want to have its customers feel safe. If customers feel that flying is not safe enough they will put off flying and hurt the airlines bottom line. How many millions did it cost to pay the victims families of 9/11?
"Deemed legal" by the courts of course. So you would deem searching people entering government buildings or private property against the constitution? It's pretty obvious that the courts disagree if you've gone to any sporting event and had your bags checked. It's part of the agreement when you buy the ticket.
What are the basics that we should get back to?
January 5, 2010 6:15 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know if the airlines object or not. What's next though? Body searches of people going to the mall because there is 'credible evidence' that terrorists want to target our shopping centers? I can see searches for government buildings that have national security concerns. But I ask where does it stop? I always thought to be searched there had to be probable cause. Our government already monitors our calls and electronic communications. And why? To keep us safe? I'd rather live free in an uncertain world than safe in a less free one. We are free falling into the abyss of paranoia and are willingly giving up our freedom for the illusion of safety. And therefore I ask have the terrorists already succeeded in their goals?
January 5, 2010 7:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Good points in this response and what you posted to trblmkr. I don't find much disagreement with what you are saying. We spent millions/billions? on machines that were suppose to sniff out explosives and then found they didn't work in a dusty environment such as an airport. We are now spending millions/billions? on machines to do full body scans. If we only screen likely terrorists we will be labeled discriminatory. If we use the full body scan to screen everyone there are going to be howls from those that prefer liberty over safety. And if we ever do make the airlines 100% safe, unlikely, then they will only find another way to produce the desired affect of terrorism. Personally I won't let them get to me and will be going about my business as usual.
January 5, 2010 8:23 PM | Reply | Permalink
Outside of scale, there WERE quite a few similarities between the underwear bomber and the 9/11 attacks. Red flags ignored, insufficient sharing of 'dots'. The 4 'pilots' on 9/11 had been in the the US before and were educated and radicalized in the West, etc. Why is anyone peeing their pants about a comparison on those grounds?
January 5, 2010 5:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
I am just noting how we overreacted to the 9/11 attacks and by comparing this latest incident to that one will continue us on the same path. If we had paid attention to the intel we would have been able to stop it. Instead we didn't and we ended up with the Patriot Act, the government surveilling it citizens not suspected of committing any crimes and possibly body searches to board an airplane. And I assure you it doesn't make us any less prone to another attack because, in a truly free society if that is what we have, no matter what we do we will not be able to stop someone determined to commit such an act.
January 5, 2010 7:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I glad to hear Ruta that you know how to open a can of dog food.
Maybe your dog can explain - Rush Holt was comparing the recent attempted attack to the shoe bomber who used the same explosive and got on a plane with no luggage and paid in cash - just like the most recent. I know that is hard to figure out - like I said maybe your dog can explain.
Your posts are pathetic, rude, and foolish.
January 5, 2010 10:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Wrong again, moron.
The shoe-bomber was not only carefully screened, he wasn't even allowed to board his flight for 24 hours, and by the time he finally boarded a different flight, he was using a ticket paid for with an airline voucher, rather than cash.
Rush Holt's complete paragraph around the sentence I quoted is...
There's no reference whatsoever to the shoe-bomber in that paragraph, or immediately before it, and the idea that "America swore" that nothing like an unsuccessful attempt to blow up one plane is ridiculous, especially applied to a time like December 21, 2001, when the rubble at Ground Zero were still smoking.
But the previous paragraph prominently mentions the 9/11 Commission, and describes a situation ("...get on a flight without the most careful scrutiny.") which doesn't even fit the shoe-bomber, who was held and scrutinized for 24 hours.
Rush Holt is just another unscupulous politician waving the bloody flag of 9/11 to panic voters into approving whatever Obama wants to do in Yemen, and it's obvious enough to anybody except a few dimwitted fanatics for Obama like Moonwood.
January 6, 2010 12:31 AM | Reply | Permalink
So, what would you make of this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/opinion/06kean.html
Op-Ed Contributors
How 12/25 Was Like 9/11 Recommend
By THOMAS H. KEAN and JOHN FARMER Jr.
Published: January 5, 2010
January 6, 2010 7:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Of course John Brennan and the rest of Team Obama are making comparisons between the underpants bomber and 9/11, and it's all equally senseless.
The 9/11 hijackers could commandeers and fly jumbo-jets; the underpants bomber couldn't even light a fuse.
But let's keep screamming "Danger! Danger! Danger!" until voters panic and Congress gives us anything we want. It worked for the previous administration.
The main "flaw" is apparently failure to integrate all information about all possible terrorists everywhere into one uniform system that every airport screener can instantly access, and the solution which the editorial hints at without actually endorsing is one big intelligence agency to handle everything.
At this level of supreme generality, 9/11 and the underpants bomber and every other terrorist incident in the history of the world are all in one gigantic category, where totally integrated and instantly accessible information would have prevented all of them.
January 6, 2010 8:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Ruta, be a man and own up to your racism. Your hero Cheney has been ridiculed. Don't hide behind "your playing the race card" bull. You are afraid of anyone who is different. You cover it with anger and name calling.
Yo - lighten up - the world is not so bad. Come out of your hiding place and make some friends.
January 6, 2010 9:56 AM | Reply | Permalink
Rutabegga is a loser - I;m glad I'm not the only one to notice. That goes for that Inokeach too. Keep bending over Inokeach - maybe you will find someone to give it you in your butt
January 7, 2010 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
The State Department has been treating its FSOs who issue visas like poor cousins for as long as I've been sentient. Turns out it's a rather important function.
January 5, 2010 12:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
But it should be remembered that Cheney was a Cold War warrior. He is associated with the Team B assessment of the capabilities of the USSR that would bring back the State of Emergency feeling his colleagues were afraid was winding down.
And what about all the covert wars fought by the CIA in the Cold War? How does that measure against the rule of "kinetic action."
January 5, 2010 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
With all due respect, Rep. Holt you are a Buffoon!
You line up right behind Barney Frank and in front of Maxine Waters. By recognizing VP Cheney you make youself smaller.
January 5, 2010 5:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, that one certainly managed to run the peanut gallery off the track!
What Representative Rocket Surgeon actually favors, though, is more than this poor keyboard can make out.
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January 5, 2010 8:21 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama and Holt are encouraging the public to imagine that we can create some unbeatable system of information connectivity where every piece of every puzzle is automatically joined together by the forces of procedural bureaucratic perfection and high-tech wizardry. Any 2 in Morocco and any other 2 in Manila will always find each other and be added together to make 4 before its too late. And they think that if this doesn't happen, that means our existing systems are failures, and our spooks aren't yet spooky enough.
Well forget it; it's never going to happen. Something will always get through the intelligence nets, no matter how intrusive, and entangling, and time-consuming, and ass-paining and all-embracing those nets become. And then we'll have even more yapping about how there isn't enough "sharing" and how we have failed to internalize all the myriad and profound lessons taught by the sainted 9/11 Commission.
Maybe the government should just build a giant coast-to-coast diaphragm that all the terrorists will bounce off of?
What a bunch of jibbering, pants-wetting ninnies this country has become. Wake me when the latest terrorism freak-out is over.
January 5, 2010 10:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
I really didn't take it that way, Dan. In this case there were a number of things that should have alerted people on the ground to this guy
Intelligence about a plot from Yemen, by a Nigerian, over the holidays
A Nigerian father concerned enough about his son being radicalized that he reported it to intelligence officials
The kid paid in cash
He had no luggage
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This is one that shouldn't have gotten as far as it did, and it is probably a combination of complacency as much as anything else. I don't think it is out of line to slap people into shape over this. From what I understand, if everyone had done what they should have, with the laws and procedures we have right now, he would have been caught before he ever boarded the plane, or at least he would have been refused boarding.
I work in an entirely different field, but when anything goes wrong, including making a mistake; part of what is done is a review of how we can put something into place that might catch it so it won't happen again. What is wrong with doing that in this very important situation?
January 6, 2010 11:21 AM | Reply | Permalink
Lets back up one step. How is that this clown did not have his visa pulled?
Are you OK with foreign terror suspects coming to the US as long as they are not a threat on the aircraft that delivers them?
January 6, 2010 8:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Not at all. The only thing that needs to happen is to let the embassy person that receives credible information that person X is a baddie pull person X's visa. The authority to pull a visa needs to be decentralized.
January 6, 2010 9:06 AM | Reply | Permalink
In any bureaucracy set up and staffed by Bush, there could be an issue of FEMA-ization, and a need to get rid of people appointed just because of loyalty to George W. and a degree from Regent University.
January 7, 2010 8:01 AM | Reply | Permalink
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