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Maureen Dowd on Obama, Loyalty, and Greg Craig

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This is definitely worth reading. But this piece by Steve Clemons of New America Foundation is even better.

I have been in Washington since I volunteered for the McGovern campaign. Gregory Craig -- who was essentially dumped for trying to make the administration live up to its campaign pledges on Guantanamo and other civil liberties issues -- is the rare Washington insider I have never heard anything bad about.

On the contrary, everyone I know who knows him says that he is a dedicated liberal, a policy wonk, and a guy with no hidden agendas. Unlike 90% of the people in this capital (including pretty much the entire Congress with a few sterling exceptions) he puts country over personal aggrandizement.

As a result, he is a consistent pain in the butt. He is like Adlai Stevenson was in the JFK White House (and then LBJ's) when he was a lone voice on Cuba and Vietnam until Kennedy and Johnson each decided they didn't want to hear his arguments anymore. JFK considered him such a pain on Cuba that he (knowing Stevenson was right) personally leaked a story to a major magazine with the sole purpose of ruining Stevenson.

Greg Craig is obviously not on Stevenson's level. He is no national figure although, unlike Stevenson, he is a consistent liberal (Stevenson was indifferent to civil rights).

But, in the end, they were treated the same way. And, in the end, as with Stevenson, historians will agree that America would have been infinitely better off had Greg Craig been at the very highest levels of the White House (he's bigger than the White House counsel job) keeping the President on the path he ran on.

Proven right by history won't do Obama, Craig or the country much good. Too bad he didn't live in FDR's day. FDR would have kept him around. He liked being prodded to do the right thing by liberals. And his other top staffers did not dare go after long-time FDR friends even if they were invariably right.

NB I write this as an Obama supporter who has no regrets whatsoever about supporting him in the primaries and the general last year. I am, however, disappointed in the people advising him and think a staff shakeup is overdo, starting with the Cabinet and working right down to the White House staff. If I wanted Team Clinton back, I'd have supported Hillary. Instead (as Hillary predicted) we have the same operator/operatives that Bill hired and Hillary would have hired had she been elected.


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So this is all about "he scratched Obama's back by selling out Hillary, why couldn't Obama scratch his back in return"...

Loyalty, friends helping friends, blah blah blah.

What's the point of lamenting lack of loyalty? This is politics and the White House.

It was Craig himself how showed lack of it when he betrayed Hillary.

Obama may in fact be wise by using traitors like him while they're useful, then keeping them at arm's length and finally cutting them off before they betray him just like Craig sold Hillary for a campaign slogan.

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What a nice way to phrase all of this - NOT!

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Yeah well.... remember all the nasty and dirty wheeling and dealing during the primaries?

John Edwards, the Patron Saint of the Poor, the Judas from New Mexico and now Craig. I have a feeling it's not over yet.

If it's all about friendship and loyalty (as MJ's title would imply), then they all got exactly what they deserved.

If it's not about friendship and loyalty, then what is it about???

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An effective government.

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Ohhhh.... you're saying an advisor to Obama proposed the decision that was poorly planned, embarassed the administration is now being fired....

That would make a lot of sense, wouldn't it!!

Except for the fact that the incomparable MJ chose to fixate on Maureen Dowd's musings on loyalty....

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"and has now been fired" is how it should read, of course. I have no loyalty to rules of spelling, obviously.

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I don't know why Craig was fired but the president's obligation is to run the country on our behalf. He should have whomever he wants on his team. If he thinks he'll be more effective with Bauer instead of Craig, not only should he do what suits him, he owes it to us to do it.

Clearly Craig won't suffer economically . His income as an attorney in private practice will be a multiple of what he was paid working for Obama.
And not for lobbying the Administration ,there are now restrictions on that and I have no doubt Craig will observe them .

Obviously he's a good guy and I wish him nothing but the best. But I think Obama's got his priorities straight


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Dedicated liberals have no political party. Time to start one.

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Right. What better way to totally waste all the liberal ideas and efforts besides creating a powerless political ghetto for them to play in.

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Even with a Democrat in the White House the liberals make all the sacrifices. Depressing and deplorable.

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FDR would have kept him around. He liked being prodded to do the right thing by liberals

By liberals maybe. When FDR was experimenting with devaluing the $ Dean Acheson , then at the Treasury opposed him . Until FDR had enough and one morning Acheson opened the paper to find ,to his suprise that he had "resigned".

A few days later his successor was sworn in. The next day when FDR opened his paper it was his turn to be surprised. There was the photo of Acheson's replacement being sworn in and behind him unmistakable with his mustache and bowler , beaming approval, was ..Acheson.

A while later FDR replaced another official who then complained to the press. FDR remarked
"Tell that guy to talk to Acheson about how a gentleman goes about leaving an Administration."

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What is up with Obama?

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You don't think it's change, do you?

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Unfortunately, when candidate Barack Obama opposed FISA in his campaign speeches, then voted for it after he'd clinched the nomination, and airily brushed off supporters who complained, he telegraphed what's up with him.

We elected him anyway, because we had no choice.

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Good point.

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This Just In! (h/t HuffPo)

Phillip Carter Resigns

Phillip Carter, the top detainee affairs policy appointee at the Pentagon, has quit his post after just seven months on the job, a Defense Department spokesman said Tuesday. Carter told the Washington Post that he was leaving for "personal and family reasons."

Carter, an Army captain who served in Iraq, had been an outspoken critic of the Bush administration's detention policy. He wrote extensively on national security and intelligence issues on his blog, IntelDump, before joining Barack Obama's presidential campaign last year to oversee outreach to veterans...

...Carter's move comes days after President Obama acknowledged publicly for the first time that his administration would not meet its goal to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay by January 2010.

White House counsel Greg Craig, who played a major role in setting detainee policy for Obama, also announced his resignation this month

Maybe there's something in the air.

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it is troubling.

the administration's policy on land mines is troubling as well.

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Agreed!

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I'd be interested if Karl Eikenberry resigns after Obama announces his support for continuing the Afghanistan quagmire by sending insufficient troops. Obama is showing McChrystal who's the boss by only giving 35k vs McChrystal's wet dream increase of 45k. McChrystal will be happen as a pig in shit with 35k.

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When one group of people control who the nominees are for any elective position, the election becomes a farce. McCain, Clinton, Obama - three sides of the same coin - just packaged differently to appear like "We the People" had a choice.
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RE: "Gregory Craig -- who was essentially dumped for trying to make the administration live up to its campaign pledges on Guantanamo and other civil liberties issues" - MJ Rosenberg

MY COMMENT: I wish I could attribute all of this to "the people advising him"[knife striking tabletop repeatedly], but in the area of civil liberties (perhaps as opposed to military matters), constitutional law professor Obama knows precisely what he is doing. The fact that he was the best candidate with a realistic chance of winning is becoming less and less consolation.

SEE: "Greg Craig and Obama's worsening civil liberties record", BY GLENN GREENWALD, 11/24/09
LINK - http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/11/24/civil_liberties/index.html

ALSO: "Phil Carter's resignation from key detainee policy post", BY GLENN GREENWALD, 11/25/09
LINK - http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/11/25/carter/index.html

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I think a lot of this will be coming home to roost in 2010 (and 2012).

Right now, I give Obama a 50/50 chance of being a one term wonder, trending downward. At least Carter will have someone to pass the torch to.

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Silly.

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I hope you're right, but my gut tells me otherwise :-)

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YOU MUST BE VERY YOUNG.

Obama will get relected and the dems will still have a big majority in both houses.

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Doubt it, the very young were those who believed that Obama would do none of these things being discussed.

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I'm 45. Is that young enough for you?

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Carter also had some solid accomplishments in his four years.

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this was a change election. washington changed obama.

http://www.bendib.com/newones/2008/november/small/11-8-Who-Made-Obama-Two.jpg

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lol

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I very much agree that the Obama White House is due for a shakeup. It appears that the two key factors are the freedom of the White House to act and the degree to which the White House and Obama are aware of the problem(s) they have (as well as how important they consider those problems.)

I'm outside the beltway, but I suspect that Obama was educated and his staff designed for two things - win the election and pass health care. They sort of figured that if they accomplished those two things they could let the Pentagon handle the remains of the two crap wars the conservatives started, at least which HCR was being taken care of.

What's happened is that Afghanistan is in worse shape than they expected and that the economy simply imploded. There is no real Presidential level "slack" with which to deal with those items because the conservative Republican desperation to defeat HCR is sucking all the oxygen out of the room. The result is an absence of guidance and control from the very top on most of what the government is doing. In such a climate the federal government will continue to march as before. Change has to come from the top.

The fact that the Republicans are slow-walking Obama's political appointees through the Senate adds to the shortage of competence in the administration. There was no one who did what Dick Cheney did in 2001 when he appointed his people across the government to implement the changes he wanted. John Bolton and Dick Addington are Cheney poster-boys. That delay in getting political appointees into place means that Civil Servants are doing what the political appointees should be doing, and those top civil servants are either promoted there during the Bush mal-administration or are Bush political appointees who have burrowed in.

Personally I don't think the Obama administration dares make big changes until HCR is finished. after that, though, it's going to depend a lot on how impervious the bubble Obama is in. If he recognizes that (the top priority, in my opinion) he is being poorly served by Geitner and Summers, then something is going to change there. Awareness of the problem and freedom to act are the keys.

Right now there is simply no freedom to act. Whether there is awareness of the problem and awareness of how important the problem is will be something we out here in the hinterlands will not recognize until sometime next year. Which, of course, is going to be complicated as the election gets closer.

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That may be so, but it doesn't help Obama's cause to surround himself with the very same people who, directly or indirectly, caused many of the problems he is trying to fix.

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True. But what is the immediate political cost of removing them right now - or even appearing to remove them. I think everyone currently in the administration is safe until HCR is completed, which means no initiatives for right now. Early next year, now, is another story.

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I hope you're right :-)

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One impression I took away from Jimmy Carter's failure to get reelected was that he was rather apolitical, coming from a navy engineering mindset. He was always an outsider. He disdained professional politicians and failed to build the Democratic Party at a time the Republicans were working hard to build the party that elected St. Ronnie. He and the Democrats paid a big price for that in 1980.

I am afraid that I see some of that same outsiderism and disdain for building the Democratic Party in Obama. He seems to fail to choose and favor his loyalists and to put his own stamp on the party in advance of the election. I can't even guess how much that is conditioned by the nature of the health care battle.

If is true that he does not consider building the party to be that imporant, Obama and the Democrats will pay for it. As the unity of the Republican party in Congress is demonstrating, party has now become all that really matters in national politics. Anyone who thinks that electing the best man to office will give us good government is a fool. All that matters now is the effectiveness of the party structure itself.

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Indeed.

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This posting and subsequent discussion is a perfect example of how we blather on about issues put forth without any factual basis. There are always two sides to any matter.

Regardless if it's about Obama, Bush or anyone - without all the facts - anyone's 'theory' is just that - a personal theory/opinion. Conclusions based on personal ideology, political interests and/or mindset.

All this type of post does is stir the pot and waste time and energy better spent working towards positive solutions rather than contributing to the negative. Isn't this exactly how FAUX news frames things? Without all the facts and framing their presentation in a manner that promotes nothing beneficial?

Do we really KNOW the TRUTH of this incident? If so, submit your PROOF here. If there is no substance, then what is your purpose?

Supposition and blather says more about those who contribute to it than the subject.

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That may be so, but the proof is in the pudding. Right now, it doesn't appear that the pudding is cooking that well.

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And this type of post helps the 'cause' exactly how? If there was more time spent dealing with facts and working towards building up instead of tearing down, the 'pudding' would be all that it could be!

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And if we wait for all the facts it'll be our grandkids passing judgment. In the meantime we have to decide now what we will do next.

Next faux argument, please.

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I suggest you use as much time and energy to find the facts as it takes to contribute to the blather which, again I state, only serves to stir the pot of negativity. This only creates more chaos - contributing to the problems.

Better not to spread the assumptions, hypothesis and ignorance. Anythng else is a 'faux argument'.

Happy Thanksgiving.

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Excellent post. No facts from these folks, just their opinions.

Whine whine whine.

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I know! It's almost like we're a nation of whiners!

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I have to laugh. We actually have Democrats who act vis a vis Obama the way Repubs acted vis a vis Bush.
All criticism is whining.
How utterly unpatriotic.

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Happy Thanksgiving from an Independent who values facts more than hypothesis and opinion! Of course, that's what this country is all about - the freedom to voice opinions and whines.

That said, it would be beneficial for our country if all opinions related to other's actions or lack thereof were labeled as such so that they are never falsely taken as fact/truth.

(Especially from those we've held in high regard as 'tellers of truth'.)

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ROTFLMAO! Introspect much?

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