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A Query for Government-Haters

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Michael Moss has this shattering piece on E. coli hamburger poisoning in today's NYT. I gave up counting the number of companies he cites who seized upon every legal loophole to circumvent regulations that would keep feces out of ground beef.

And who was it, conservatives, you expected to keep you safe? Do you really want the government's hands out of your hamburger? Or is the paralyzed 22-year-old Stephanie Smith, a victim of E. coli passed down the food chain by Cargill in the guise of ""American Chef's Selection Angus Beef Patties," which included slaughterhouse trimmings, a case of collateral damage in the War Against Regulation?

It's worthwhile remembering, by the way, what a serious newspaper can do.


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Great point. It is too bad that irrefutable logic along with a heartbreaking story don't break through our Modern-Day Conservative's mind. Nothing does, because it is a way of life, until it is them or their loved one who is poisoned. And even then I am not sure that their state of denial wouldn't kick in and protect them from the truth of the matter.

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Well said, Gnome.

There are only three people conservatives care about: Me, Myself and I.

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It's no use, carnivores. Government inspectors won't save you. As much as you wish it, it won't be: I'm from the government, and I'm here to save your life. Give it up! The beef industry is terrible for the environment as well as for your personal health. Vegetarians live longer, and have more fun besides.

Here's wishing you a juicy Portobello mushroom burger with mustard, lettuce, tomato and onions (or your favorite toppings). Yummy in your tummy! And feces-free, guaranteed.

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Then of course, I think those mushies are grown on a mixture of straw and manure. That's what all those little black specks that stick to the fungi are. Mmmm...chow down.

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The parallel to the mortgage / banking mess is unavoidable. The institutional failures have a familiar ring.

This nation has to come to grips with the obscenity of profit over everything else and the attendant corruption of government by the private sector. We've devised a broad based systemic scheme that assures failure. The absurdity of that devisement is because of money. When money is all that matters you are certain to have a bad result. We teach this corrupt ethic at every level of education. With that as the starting point any expectation of a different outcome is foolish.

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With "conservatives" having embraced ignorance and deception as their cardinal values, no one in his or her right mind expects much of anything from their policies and proposals beyond incompetence and exploitation. Most conservatives and "conservatives" have, however, retained one common trait that most liberals and "liberals" lost years ago: backbones. Nonetheless, despite possessing vertebrae, many of the conservative sub-species most audible lately ("birthers" etc.) also share traits with e.coli, especially in terms of IQ.

I read this e.coli story somewhat uncomfortably yesterday having just enjoyed a large hamburger, but grasping its basic lessons depends more on common sense and elemental fairness than political affiliation:

1. People should be allowed to eat meat, provided (a) that those not wanting to do so are not unreasonably encumbered from following a different diet, and (b) that carnivores pay the full social and environmental cost of meat consumption (including rigorous full health inspections and forty future generations of higher greenhouse gas levels). This part 1b is a proper reason for governmental regulation in response to market failure (externalities), though how exactly such regulation should be applied is debatable in theory and often difficult to efficiently implement in practice.

2. Absent part 1b above, hamburger eaters can get obtain considerable protection against experiencing a tragedy of the sort that befell Ms Smith in Minnesota by paying a somewhat higher price per pound, going to a reputable butcher, and having him grind the meat.

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I don't know what kind of health insurance this poor woman had, but how much did treating her infections cost the rest of us? How much will it cost us for her dialysis and transplantation when her kidneys finally fail?

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According to the NYT, IIRC, Ms.Smith's insurance covered very little of the extensive treatments she needed, but Cargill was picking up the tab for a lot of her expenses - presumably as a prophylactic measure against the inevitable suit....

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I can only speak from what Norman Mailer would have called "the point of view of a crab louse at the birth of Jesus". But, not only do I live in Spain, for years, I also have been in almost daily contact with much of the top management of BBVA and have many friends in the risk department there and also among those who shepherd BBVA Compass, all of whom would have to be in on the gag, and if they are lying about their numbers on the scale you suggest then they have criminal talents worthy of far more profitable callings, as they are not nervous, not biting their nails or looking furtively over their shoulders. Cool as cucumbers, relaxed and proud of their bank.

BBVA is doing very well by the indicators of the expressions on the faces of its headquarters staff with inside information, the tone of their conversation etc.

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Thanks for bringing attention to this awful story.

All your policy/society points are highly valid, of course.

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It's worthwhile remembering, by the way, what a serious newspaper can do.

It certainly is. The Times' work on this very pertinent, very revealing story deserves praise. It harkons back to the days of gritty muckraking a century ago, to the kind of journalism that changed the way we approached government, even changed the way we thought about ourselves. That's why the Times utter failures - Iraq, domestic surveillance - over the past decade are so devastating in retrospect. At this point, given the state of its degraded reputation, I wondered while reading the story if the Times' impetus to cover it could be the chance to damage company reputations and pick up some meat packing stock - cheap.


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1. Provided the average temperature is getting higher, accordingly all forms of germs, viruses, and influenza etc are more likely to multiply.

Some skeptics say the warning against hazards of climate change is overstated, but judging from more frequent and widespread outbreaks of e. coli, salmonella, and bird, swine flu cases endangering human lives and economic recovery seriously, some prompt measures need to be taken, I guess.


2. I personally recognize that wheat is a far better diet than meat on the ground it normally exits body with ease and rapidity, and we are well aware that our heath depends upon smooth metabolism and blood stream associated with the immune system and how important our daily workout is, as well.

I still think the critical conditions mostly come from breach of our immune system, and the food that stays long in the body is more likely to become a source where germs, bacterias and the like multiply.
Sounds outlandish, but wheat might be a principal "clean and healthy" food that has led western society to the most decent culture of all.

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Wasn't it Government that killed the idea of irradiating food to kill all such germs?

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The Jungle lives on. This was an incredibly chilling piece of journalism. It was picked up today on NPR as well. Who knows, maybe it will make one of the evening newscasts before too long. While waiting for effective regulation to occur, I'm taking Julia Child's advice and going to start grinding my own.

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Nice to see Todd Gitlin is still close-minded after all these years. It was his intransigent presumptuousness that helped inspire many former SDS activists like myself to reexamine our prejudices. If Mr. Gitlin would actually examine what those of us he insists “hate government” actually do complain about, he might discover it has nothing to do with sanitary regulations and everything to do with the promotion of a dehumanizing social engineering.

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There are only three people conservatives care about: Me, Myself and I.

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