Corruption in Kabul
A month ago, I referred to the "spooky parallels" between the Karzai government and the terminally corrupt Diem regime we found ourselves backing in Vietnam 50 years ago. Well today Peter Galbraith, the most experienced U.S. diplomat in Afghanistan was fired from his post at the U.N. station in Kabul for exposing the complicity of the head of the U.N. mission, Kai Eide, in covering up the fraud in the Afghanistan election.
Fearful of "ghost" polling stations that would never open because of a lack of security -- but which would report fraudulent ballots -- Mr. Galbraith wrote that he had pressed the Afghan ministers of defense and interior to secure these polling centers or shut them down. But he said the ministers "complained about my intervention and Kai ordered me to drop the matter.""As it turned out, most of the electoral fraud occurred in these ghost polling centers," he wrote. A spokesman for the Ministry of Defense, Gen. Zahir Azimi, said he was not aware of any complaint before the election.
In addition, Mr. Galbraith wrote that United Nations field staff members collected data showing a "minuscule" turnout in southern provinces that somehow would report large numbers of votes for Mr. Karzai. But once it became clear that the data "would be deeply disturbing to President Karzai," he said, Mr. Eide "ordered the staff not to share the data with anyone."
The long sordid history of U.S. military support for corrupt regimes needs to be broken. President Obama's willingness to take a long hard look at the potential Afghan War escalation is both brave and new. For fifty years Presidents have acquiesced to the conventional wisdom of the national security establishment. In the situation room today it's obvious that Holbrooke, Clinton and Petraeus represent that conventional wisdom. Let us hope that fresh thinking can be brought to the table.




















Jon - I agree with your main points, but parallels with Vietnam and other regimes break down at the level of certain details. In many of the other cases, we supported a corrupt regime in conflict with a popular uprising. In Afghanistan, the regime is unpopular, but the Taliban who threaten it are even more unpopular. The challenge here will be to extract some value from the Karzai regime without being too closely wedded to it. That will include deal-making with other factions - a phenomenon not unknown to the indigenous population of Afghanistan. It is my impression that many Afghans, at this point, are not so much resentful of U.S./NATO involvement as fearful of being caught in the murderous crossfire between the Taliban and the NATO forces. They are reluctant to embrace our support not because they hate us, but because they fear we will depart, leaving them vulnerable to reprisals by the insurgents after our departure. It will be important, therefore, to try as best as possible to transition from outside stabilizing forces to indigenous ones without too much of a gap in between.
September 30, 2009 9:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fred, sure, the local populace may not hate us and they may hate and fear the Taliban. But it seems that virtually every strategy proposed mirrors the one the Soviets used, and will probably fail for a similar set of reasons (the last paragraph is particularly poignant).
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/stevecoll/2009/09/ink-spots.html
September 30, 2009 9:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Thanks for the link to the interesting New Yorker piece. The parallels to the Soviet effort are striking, but the differences are equally striking - two in particular.
One of the reasons the Soviets failed is that the U.S. put considerable effort into engineering their failure. We don't face that degree of outside opposition.
A second reason described in the article is the failure to secure the Pakistani side of the border. This is something, however, that the Pakistani government, with our help, is now accomplishing far more than in the earlier era. In fact, there now appears to be more threat to Pakistan from the Afghan side than a threat to Afghanistan from the Pakistan side. That is one reason why averting an Afghanistan takeover by the Taliban is important as a means of helping to protect Pakistan's nuclear weapons from a situation in which a destabilized Pakistan might provide the insurgents with access to those weapons.
September 30, 2009 9:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Our disagreement is pretty simple. I think that, in fact, Pakistan is that outside force driving the Taliban resistance, and they are extremely adept at playing both sides- and playing to win. The Taliban is not indigenous to Afghanistan- it was hatched over the border.
Afghanstan, for all its fame as 'the graveyard of empires,' looks a lot like Lebanon to me, ethnically divided, with sets of players- Russia, India, Iran, now the US- vying for advantage. But the Pakistanis have the home-field advantage, so to speak. And, since it is true that the Taliban are a true double-edged sword, and inspire fear in their creators, the Pakistanis have the motivation to drive them to accomplish their varied goals in Afghanistan. A stable, Westernized Afghanistan means the Taliban have nowhere to go but into Pakistan. That is why it is not in Pakistan's interest to allow us to stabilize the country.
September 30, 2009 10:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
I suspect that at least for some within the Pakistani security forces, it is not in Pakistan's interest to completely stabilize Afghanistan, just as you suggest. On the other hand, I'm not sure Pakistan would welcome a completely destabilized Afghanistan, either - particularly one that provided further haven for Pakistani Taliban/Al Qaeda remnants that the Pakistani military are trying to suppress. Nuclear weapons would be only one of the items at risk.
Since complete stabilization of Afghanistan is probably impossible anyway, don't you think we might hope for some Pakistani cooperation to prevent the extreme opposite, or at least a decision not to interfere? Permanent, decisive solutions don't seem to be in the cards in this part of the world.
September 30, 2009 10:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
You're absolutely right that a completely destabilized Afghanistan would not be in the interest of Pakistan. I think an enlargement of Holbrooke's mandate from Afghanistan/Pakistan to Afghanistan/Pakistan/India might be a good place to start, and further a concerted attempt on the part of US diplomats/intelligence to understand the strategic maze of South and Central Asia.
But yes, I think we have to understand the Pakistani point(s) of view, both for purposes of persuasion and for purposes of our own decision making. There are points of common interest that we could use far more effectively than we are at present.
September 30, 2009 11:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fred- Don't forget that the Saudi's have pretty strong financial ties to the Taliban. They clearly don't want their new sworn enemy, Bin Laden having sanctuary in Afghanistan.
October 1, 2009 7:34 AM | Reply | Permalink
Saudi's playing both sides?
The Bin Laden's are one of the Saudi's most influential families.
Now the Saudi's are supporting the Taliban against Bin Laden?
Are you serious?
October 1, 2009 9:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
Bin Laden has declared war against the Saudis and has launched operations against the regime inside SA.
October 1, 2009 5:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fred Moolten:
The NYTimes disagrees (and Freed knows it):
Fred goes on:
Now tell me Moolten isn't a Pentagon shill.
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September 30, 2009 11:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
He's a smart guy with an opinion different from yours. Yes, must be a schill.
October 1, 2009 12:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
Pentagonese is like obscenity -- I recognize it when I see it. You should, too.
October 1, 2009 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fred Moolten:
Fred, I'm sure, is going to tell us how you extract value from a corrupt regime. I'm dying to hear that. But we have more on Fred's impressions:
Bur Fred has the answer:
We'll transition from the US Army to the Afghan National Army! What a concept! One problem though -- after the expenditure of billions of dollars on the ANA it doesn't exist, except on paper. After eight years. Back to the drawing board, Fred.
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October 1, 2009 12:18 AM | Reply | Permalink
Holbrooke seems to have had a difficult time dealing with Karzai already. It seems that this latest sacking of Galbraith will only add to this.
I think that the idea of a "Karzai government" may be an idea whose time may have passed.
September 30, 2009 9:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Election corruption in Afghanistan?
Jon, I'm SHOCKED.
That could never happen here.
Or, to put it another way, perhaps the US did successfully export SOMETHING.
September 30, 2009 11:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Our tax dollars are being put to good use:
So can we write off our taxes as a charitable expense?
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October 1, 2009 12:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Good point Don, keeping the conflict going to get US military and civilian aid, and support from other deep pockets, who may support one side or the other or both, is like an bottomless ATM machine.
It is the same reason Israel does not want to make peace. It is the same reason Pakistan will never stop training, supporting all its myriad terror groups, most recently the one that attacked Mumbai. Pakistan will always need more weapons and money to fight the bad guys (on their payroll).
Fighting for your 'survival' or 'survival of democracy' be it in Israel, Pakistan or Afghanistan is a much better financial game plan then being at peace.
October 1, 2009 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Well, I guess the nom de guerre of 'Graveyard of Empires' is just a boastful slogan, and they've never seen American Exceptionalism at work.
Ours is not to question why, ours is just to do or die, right?
October 1, 2009 1:10 AM | Reply | Permalink
How else can field and flag officers make their bones without fighting the good fight? Jeese!
October 1, 2009 1:22 AM | Reply | Permalink
The long sordid history of U.S. military support for corrupt regimes needs to be broken.
Yup.
Shall we start w/ the Saudis? then Egypt, Columbia, Kuwait, UAE, Italy, Jordan......Pakistan?......etc
We won't hardly have any friends left if we decline "support" to regimes based on "corruption". Talk about a big tent.
October 1, 2009 2:07 AM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has been president for nine months, was a presidential candidate for over a year prior to that, a Senator for three years prior to that, and an informed public citizen for decades prior to that. Any thinking he is now doing on Afghanistan, however clear, careful and thorough is not "fresh" but WAY overdue. The parallels to Vietnam and other such debacles were abundantly obvious 30 YEARS ago when the Russians went into Afghanistan, and very relevant when the huge and boneheaded diversion of resources to Iraq (which of course greatly increased the quagmire potential of Afghanistan) was approved by the sleepwalking and cowardly US Congress including, to their everlasting if generally denied shame, a clear majority of Democrats. Apart from one apparent speech -brilliant but isolated- against a "dumb war," Obama essentially did not do jack in response. Afghanistan is now HIS mess, and he cannot be completely absolved of the blame for it having become his mess.
October 1, 2009 7:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
Without chaos, there can be no piracy.
This was true in Iraq.
It remains true in Afganistan.
War is a racket.
October 1, 2009 12:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
"War is a racket. . .the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."--MajGen Smedley Butler, USMC, 1939, recipient of two Congressional Medals of Honor
October 1, 2009 4:41 PM | Reply | Permalink
DTroub - I think you're right that we neglected Afghanistan because of the Iraq obsession, but I don't believe Obama shares blame for that neglect. He has been consistent in opposing the Iraq war while asserting that our efforts needed to be focused more vigorously on Afghanistan/Pakistan, seeing Iraq as a war of choice and Afghanistan as a war of necessity. Circumstances appear to be bearing him out, despite some grumbling on both sides of that equation.
Parallels are informative, but should not be overinterpreted. Which parallel matches our current Afghanistan scenario - our failure in Vietnam or our success in routing the Taliban in Afghanistan, with the help of the Northern Alliance and others, shortly after 9/11? I believe the answer is obvious - neither one. Unlike Vietnam, we face an insurgency in Afghanistan that is wisely despised by the people, who in turn, yearn for the better life (particularly for women) that they briefly enjoyed after our 2001 successes. As Ahmed Rashid recently pointed out on NPR, they don't want us to leave, because they see that as the end of their hopes. Equally fervently, however, they don't want to be killed by our bombs, or the suicide bombs of the insurgents. Unlike 2001, we are not nearly as well prepared to guarantee them the security they demand, and that remains a serious challenge. For a recent discussion by Rashid, see http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/04/AR2009090402277.html
Although there is little disagreement about our need to remain engaged in Afghanistan to avert uncontested Taliban domination, with its threat of catastrophic destabilization of the entire region, the means are less clear. McChrystal and others argue for a massive troop enhancement, while at the other end of the spectrum, some within the Administration, Congress, and the foreign policy establishment prefer a far more focused approach, without further troop increases, or even with a reduction. Their emphasis is on training Afghan forces, which are currently acknowledged to be incapable of providing adequate security. As Rashid argues in the piece linked-to above, an emphasis on infrastructure of value to the civilian population would also be an integral part of a combined strategy.
Diachronic and Jon - I appreciate the points made about the corruption of the Karzai government. Karzai has been thoroughly discredited, and Holbrooke is already trying some end runs to gain support elsewhere. However, the Karzai government may be despised, but it is not about to evaporate, nor is there an obvious alternative in sight now. In fact, Abdullah, his main rival, is probably equally corrupt, and unlike Karzai, is not a Pashtun, thereby further disadvantaging him. It seems to me that the way through this minefield is likely to involve an international effort to impose future benchmarks on Afghanistan's electoral processes, so as to give greater credibility to future elections, but also to pressure Karzai to include reputable and capable individuals within his cabinet and among his allies, so as to remove some of stigma his government currently bears.
I would guess that all these tasks will meet with setbacks, but there is also a reasonable prospect for ultimate success, where "success" is not defined as a military victory, but as a return to a society where insurgency is containable, and most civilians can enjoy a better life. The history of Afghanistan is one of constantly shifting alliances, where many factions are quick to gravitate to the side they see as likely to win. In that sense, Taliban support, except for the core fanatics, might erode quickly if its opponents seem able to improve the lives of the population while maintaining reasonable security.
The Taliban can guarantee Afghans the security that comes with brutal repression, but not much else, and it would seem to be job of those inside and outside of Afghanistan to demonstrate that they can do better.
October 1, 2009 5:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
No parallel is perfect, but the closest ones for the US in Afghanistan are the Russians and the Brits in Afghanistan. Neither example remotely supports any case for long term foreign "engagement." Of course the Taliban are an extremely nasty bunch but the 9-11 attacks could have been prevented with a 19th century technology level of police registry of foreigners, with locked pilot doors on planes, or with a single armed security guard on each plane, at a microscopic fraction of the cost of the Afghan quagmire.
Going into Afghanistan in 2001 was not necessarily a terrible mistake, but going in with no plan was not wise, and if 50,000 US lives lost in Indochina and Powell's Doctrine meant anything at all, they meant set up a new government with broad international support and give nation building our best shot, but be damned sure to be out of there long before most of the population starts to hate us. In evident denial of this obvious reality, Obama has stuck until very recently to the lame fantasy that it is still late 2002, Iraq doesn't matter, and if we just pour enough resources into Afghanistan we can win it. This is very doubtful. At the very least there is a strong possibility that we lost Afghanistan in 2003 when the Cakewalk to the Mesopotamian WMD became Smashed Pottery Accomplished, i.e. making it basically impossible to go back and quickly finish Cheney's first big foreign adventure (that should have been finished before starting his second).
October 1, 2009 5:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
I agree with your main points
November 14, 2009 1:03 PM | Reply | Permalink