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Irving Kristol-R.I.P.

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While Neo-cons acolytes like Jonah Goldberg are busy sanctifying Irving Kristol, I need to introduce a note of reality here. Irving Kristol and Milton Freidman are responsible for the mess we are in. Kristol's two tenants of the neoconservative faith were simple.


  • In domestic affairs the national government should shrink (by cutting taxes and business regulations)

  • In foreign affairs the government should grow (by becoming the world's sole military superpower).


  • The simplicity has a frightening economic and moral inconsistency. Obviously if you cut taxes and grow your military you are going into debt. Obviously if you eliminate business regulations, grifters (which we breed in the millions) are going to take advantage of the system. Too much debt and too many people trying to game a system with few regulators. That about sums up our economy since Kristol's ideas in the form of the Reagan era took hold. Even if Bill Clinton was able to get the debt briefly under control, he never took on the question of what we gained by spending so much money to be Kristol's "world's sole military superpower". Perhaps President Obama will be willing to answer that question. Our economic rivals give all their citizens world class health care and K-College education as a right of citizenship (paid for by taxes). They spend 5% of our defense budget on their own military.

    May Neoconservatism rest in peace.


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    Perhaps President Obama will be willing to answer that question.

    Well there has been no indication of that being a possibility as of yet as more US bombs kill women and children near the Afghan/Pakistan border.

    Mark my words we may wish for neoconservatism's return, as repulsive as it was, judging by what it looks like it might end up becoming after the death of its Dr. Frankenstein.

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    And furthermore...

    Obviously if you eliminate business regulations, grifters (which we breed in the millions) are going to take advantage of the system.

    That is why we are changing things by reforming health care in a way that it will mandate the people buy insurance on the private market? If you ask me neo-conservatism monster seems very un-dead and well.

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    Neo-conservatism = subverted and perverted liberalism

    Just like the Milton Friedman/Ayn Rand crowd hijacked and subverted libertarianism for the benefit of the wealthy neo-cons did the same thing with liberalism. Now we have 2 parties...the corporate left party and the corporate right party.

    /rant

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    May Neoconservatism rest in peace.

    Very funny, Jon, since (1) they always rested not in peace but in war and (2) now the neolibs are carrying the war banner, with nary a miss of the war-drummer's beat. Reportedly it does anguish President Obama to sign those next-of-kin letters, though, so that's a good thing.

    Meanwhile, they are laying off teachers and closing parks around here while the national "security" forces get the big bucks -- all borrowed, of course. How about where you live?

    What [have] we gained by spending so much money to be Kristol's "world's sole military superpower?

    Would you believe war profiteering? Contract awards over $5m announced by DOD on one typical day, Sep 18 2009:

    Supplycore, Inc., Rockford, Ill. $525,000,000
    Parker-Hannifin Corp., Irvine, Calif. $16,570,224
    Bijan’s Protective Equipment, Santa Rosa, Calif.$5,617,400
    Hensel Phelps Soltek Joint Venture, Greeley, Colo $116,920,072
    BAE Systems Technology Solutions and Services, Rockville, Md $76,000,000
    Raytheon Co., McKinney, Texas $44,289,514
    DRS Systems, Inc., Parsippany, N.J., $13,818,940
    Greenhut Construction Co., Inc., Pensacola, Fla., $10,598,586
    HDR Architecture, Inc., Alexandria, Va., $6,500,000
    Boeing Co., Long Beach, Calif., $72,486,194
    DTS Aviation Services, Inc., Fort Worth, Texas $41,111,000
    EDO Corp., of North Amityville, N.Y. $39,267,458
    Booz Allen Hamilton, Inc. of Herndon, Va., $38, 646,488
    DynCorp International, LLC of Fort Worth, Texas $31,276,841
    Wyle Laboratories, Inc. of Huntsville, Ala. $28,349,190
    McDonnell Douglas Corp., Long Beach, Calif., $20,000,000
    Battelle Memorial Institute, Columbus, Ohio $13,665,951
    L3 Communications Vertex Aerospace, of Madison Miss., $8,561,632
    Balfour / S&P Joint Venture, Dallas, TX, $46,437,194
    John J. Kirlin Special Projects LLC., Rockville, Md., $9,255,853
    General Dynamics lands Systems, Sterling Heights, Mich. $ 7,218,657
    Black Horse Group LLC., Watertown, N.Y $6,628,600
    Sun Star LLC., San Diego, Calif. $24,973,773
    Hanco Corp., Hattiesburg, Miss., $8,174,000
    Camelbak Products LLC., Petaluma, Calif., $5,966,953
    http://www.defenselink.mil/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4121

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    And let's not forget the politicians! They profited too!

    Take the House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee, for example. John Murtha, D-Pa., and C.W. Bill Young, R-Fla.are the Senior Earmarkers there, granting "earmarks" to favored "defense" corporations in exchange for political contributions.

    The Center for Public Integrity found that more than 50 earmarks are involved in 2008, with fully three-quarters of the subcommittee members having been involved in similar patterns of behavior, totaling more than $100 million, while the campaign contributions amounted to more than $1 million.

    Several "companies received an impressive $30,200,000 in earmarks from Murtha and Murtha received $83,800 in PAC contributions and $209,050 in donations from executives at the companies."
    http://www.post-trib.com/news/1762133,Murtha-Visclosky-910.article

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    It must have been very difficult growing up with a name like 'Irving'. Boys being boys and all. I wonder if that is what he meant when he referred to his having been “mugged by reality”.

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    May Neoconservatism rest in peace.

    The neoconservatives are as potent as ever.

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    With all due respect for the dead, I agree with Dan K.

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    Given the extent to which Kristol's erudite and irreverent skepticism was transformed into flaming obnoxiousness and malignant hypocrisy by latter neo-cons, perhaps the R.I.P. here might better be taken as the initials for Rotate in Perpetuity.

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    I've heard that deaths happen in threes;

    Novak, Kristol......Cheney?

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    Nah. Death is too good for him. Maybe incurable crabs.

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    Friedman would maybe have been surprised to see himself clumped in with the neocons.

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    Since I was the one who brought him up I only have to say he was mentioned only in the context of his ability to subvert a political ideology for the benefit of the wealthy.

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    Oops...nevermind, Taplin brought him up too. My bad.

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    Hmm, which foreign affairs? What grifters? The common denominator tells all.

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    It has been obvious to me since the Nixon era that military spending has been what sopped up the government money that should have long ago been spent on universal health care. It gave the budget scolds the political power to kill reform in Congress.

    Both the excess military spending and the lack of an efficient universal health care system have been major elements in the decline of the American economy. Add add the major efforts to either politicize the public education system by teaching conservative ideology instead of logic, real history and thinking, or to turn it into an evangelical adjunct of the fundamentalist evangelical churches and the clear decline of the American economy in comparison to the rest of the world is no surprise.

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    Pretty odd to lump Milton Friedman - who actively campaigned to end the draft, for example - in with the Neocons.

    Whilst I'm no particular fan of Friedman, his serious academic credentials and advocacy for personal liberty go a long way to off-setting some of the more problematic anti-government dogma he also favored. With Neoconservatism, not yet clear they have any redeeming legacy.

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