The Right Is Right: They Have Lost Their Country -- And Jimmy Carter Is Right Too
It takes, Jimmy Carter, a white southerner to speak the truth about the people spewing virulent hate against the President: it's racism
Of course, everything Carter says is obvious. It is just that so many hate hearing it. Not only is this country obsessed with race, it always has been. Racism is one big reason why we have rejected Europe's social democratic path and why millions and millions hate the idea of universal health care even if they personally will benefit from it. A sizable minority of Americans will reject any program that African Americans will also benefit from.
Bottom line: if there were no African Americans and no African American President, these white bigots would have insisted on single payer decades ago. It's like the old adage: a Republican can only enjoy a meal if he knows someone else is hungry.
That someone else is black.
The good news is that the bill will pass and the voting coalition Obama assembled is solid. White Christian male bigots -- and their wives -- cannot elect a President. (They couldn't even carry Virginia, North Carolina or Indiana).
This is stage 2 of LBJ's nightmare: the silver lining. Yes, the civil rights law turned the south from deep blue to deep red. That killed us for 40 years. But, over those same 40 years, demographic changes in the American population (considerably assisted by LBJ's liberal immigration policy) ensured that the party of the white male would be unable to put together an electoral majority beyond 2000 or thereabouts.
That is why the racists are losing their minds. They say that they have lost their country. They are right.
But we welcome them to ours. Just leave the hate behind.




















We have no room for racist bigots, nor for the kick down politics that enables.
September 16, 2009 8:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
Had the Republicans concerned themselves with providing good government for the people of the USA, instead of funneling tax money to favored corporations (Halliburton, KBR, and Blackwater) through massive no-bid contracts, and had they refrained from starting a war to keep these contracts profitable for those corporations, they would have remained in power and would still control the USA.
The Republican game plan of throwing Billions and even Trillions of tax dollars at corporations in return for only Millions of dollars in campaign contributions has proven disastrous for the Republicans because even the average US citizen has seen through this game plan and just wants good government.
The Democrats are now following in the Republicans footsteps and will eventually pay the consequences if they continue down this path.
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September 17, 2009 5:13 PM | Reply | Permalink
Odd welcome wagon.
September 16, 2009 8:41 AM | Reply | Permalink
There is some truth to Pres. Carter's assertion, but only "some". He paints with far too broad a brush, and therefore makes just one more dubious contribution to the modern 'Cartoon Culture' (my own original description for current public sensibility). Cartoon Culture has no patience for complication, nuance, irony, or paradox. It tends to simplify all things to one or two slogans or labels, and it is incapable of assimilating subtlety of any form.
I ran into some of this during the Dem. primary: On more than just a few occasions,as a Clinton supporter, I found myself lumped-in with racists and bumpkins who were judged incapable of grasping Obama's unique appeal. I wasn't alone - whole STATES were tarred by the same crude brush.
We really need to be CAREFUL about this tendency. OF COURSE there are racists opposed to the President for that reason alone, but it's a serious mistake to assume that racism inevitably constitutes the CORE of all opposition. Politics is about many things, but we can all be thankful that it remains (so far?) mostly about POLICY.
If we ignore the honest reservations that many honest and well-meaning people have about the President's policy prescriptions, we're going to misunderstand the nature of the struggle we're in. That cannot be a good thing in the long run.
September 16, 2009 9:13 AM | Reply | Permalink
On the whole, I agree with this. But I think you need to make a distinction between disagreement over policy and hate. It is quite clear that there are many who have honest disagreements with Obama's policies. But what is unique is the way those disagreements have turned into full-throated rage with many.
Now to some extent, as many have pointed out, this happens to any Democratic president. Those of us who remember the Clinton years remember just how unhinged the right became then as well. But I do think things are more intense now.
September 16, 2009 9:37 AM | Reply | Permalink
"If we ignore the honest reservations that many honest and well-meaning people have about the President's policy prescriptions, we're going to misunderstand the nature of the struggle we're in. That cannot be a good thing in the long run."
OK, let's say you're that guy at the 'Tea Party' carrying the "No more deficit spending" sign. To your left is a woman with the "Bury Obamacare with Ted Kennedy" sign and to your right (in more ways than one is a guy with the "Cap Socialism and 'Trade' Obama back to Kenya" sign. Shouldn't you form your own separate march? What are you doing there?
September 16, 2009 10:30 AM | Reply | Permalink
trb,
(I know I'm sort of evading your question by this answer, but it's the best I can do).
I'm unlikely to be found holding ANY sign at ANY public rally. I might possibly attend, if the issue was one I felt strongly enough about, but I would not insult my own intelligence or anyone else's by assuming I could fit a pertinent contribution to the discussion onto a cardboard sign. That's classic Cartoon Culture thinking, and it just isn't my style.
September 16, 2009 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
OK OK. Say you went, without a sign, to have civil discussions with anyone willing to keep a cool head and THEN witnessed the scenario I descibed earlier and the worse displays that actually took place at some of these 'events'. Would you stay?
September 16, 2009 4:01 PM | Reply | Permalink
And you are, as the hippie folk used to say, playing a tape, dude. It's 2009 and the President is under attack by bigots and seditionists. Not a time for you to be reliving the primary campaign that ended 15 months ago.
September 16, 2009 10:53 AM | Reply | Permalink
And we need to be careful that because racism isn't the core of the protest against Obama for many, but rather a facet, that we don't use this to avoid looking at the racism infused. Usually when people starting talking about in the manner you are, it is usually ended with some form of "so lets just not talk about the racism at all."
The progress we have made so far is related to the extent that we have been willing to openly address the issue.
September 16, 2009 11:44 AM | Reply | Permalink
one_wilson,
I disagree with your assertion that Carter painted with a broad brush. I saw him on TV, and just watched the link supplied by MJ and its obvious that Carter was speaking only of the right wing crazies.
You go on to say:
" On more than just a few occasions,as a Clinton supporter, I found myself lumped-in with racists and bumpkins who were judged incapable of grasping Obama's unique appeal. I wasn't alone - whole STATES were tarred by the same crude brush."
You seem to be using the right wing tactic of
claiming someone is painting with a broad brush
whenever a legitimate criticism arises. Joe Scarborough did it this morning; he first admitted racism exists, then he criticed Carter, insinuating Carter called " all these people" racists. To me, this is just a way of ameliorating the crime and attacking the messenger....not to mention changing the subject.
You seem to be either too sensitive or unable to separate the wheat from the chafe.
However, I fully agree with your "Cartoon Culture" comment and your outlook on carrying signs at political gatherings. Excellent observations.
September 17, 2009 9:36 AM | Reply | Permalink
I want to step up and re-iterate a point I took from one_wilson's comment.
It is important to recognize the honest arguments being made by people who show up at the same rally as the crazies.
Knowledge is power.
If we can recognize honest concerns, we have the oppurtunity to engage. If we have the oppurtunity to engage. It's no use engaging bigots - but there are non-bigots who disagree. And those people are worth talking to.
September 17, 2009 2:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
mcrose,
I agree, we should engage those with differences, but what I have yet to see, at this march or at the town halls, is anyone presenting
an informed argument for their side. All I see is screamers and mindless babblers like the woman who sobbed and who wants her country back. No, not everyone is her, but where were those who could articulate an informed position, those people you can engage, but you can't debate the dingbats and I'm a fraid that's the majority of the teabaggers (dupes). The signs they carried said it all.
September 17, 2009 3:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
Can't happen fast enough.
September 16, 2009 9:43 AM | Reply | Permalink
Your stupidity is boundless. Criticism of Obama is not based on his race, it is based on his actions. The more left wing garbage he espouses, the more that criticism will grow. You lefties only win by lying to the people and pretending to be what you are not. You control of Congress was achieved by running 'conservative' candidates, really stealth liberals. Well, people are now seeing what the elected, and they are not happy.
At least you finally will admit that your strategy to win is based on flooding the country with dirt poor peasants to turn the US into a third world country. Keep bragging about it. We'll see what happens in the next election.
September 16, 2009 10:14 AM | Reply | Permalink
"At least you finally will admit that your strategy to win is based on flooding the country with dirt poor peasants to turn the US into a third world country."
1) Only citizens can vote.
2) You can't legally emigrate or become a citizen to the US without proof of means of support.
3)If you're referring to 'illegals', the biggest magnet for them to come here is jobs at companies, large and small, who felt secure under Bush that they would not be charged with breaking the law by hiring them. Illegal immigration is tolerated because corporations want cheap labor that can't complain about working conditions and will just 'go away' if injured.
September 16, 2009 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
CleverBulldog - no one like you who supported George W. Bush for eight years, and who continues to think George W. Bush did a great job, can be taken seriously, especially on the topic of 'stupidity'!
September 16, 2009 11:25 AM | Reply | Permalink
I supported Bush because the alternatives were Gore and Kerry. Period. I never thought he was great, just better than the idiots on the other side.
September 16, 2009 12:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
If Bush v. Gore had gone the other way, ther would have been no 9/11, beeyatch.
September 16, 2009 3:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
Bulldog,
why were Gore and Kerry worse than Bush/Cheney?
Why were they "idiots"?
September 17, 2009 9:50 AM | Reply | Permalink
If we'd had Gore, we wouldn't have wasted a trillion dollars in Iraq, and we'd now be the leader in Green Energy.
I can see why CleverBulldog wouldn't want that. If you have peace and prosperity, how can you scare people into voting for bigots?!
Pretty straight-forward really.
September 17, 2009 2:14 PM | Reply | Permalink
mcross,
heh heh, truly.
September 17, 2009 3:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
First, if you think illegals are not voting in large numbers you are fooling yourself. Second, by changing the immigration rules that used to give preference to europeans, Kennedy made sure that the balance would shift towards countries more likely to support democrats. This is why the US is fast becoming a majority non-white country. Republicans as usual did nothing, but that may finally be changing.
September 16, 2009 1:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Illegals voting in large numbers?
Offer evidence, toothless chihuahua. Now. Put up or shut the fuck up.
(Note: "Evidence" means third-party verifiable, demonstrable proof, not your usual pointless, unverifiable, blathering assertions.)
September 16, 2009 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
Grouch,
speaking to Bulldog is like speaking to your dining room table. I shall forever call this exercise "Barney Frankin". :-)
September 17, 2009 10:27 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yeah, but would you pee on his dining room table's leg?
September 17, 2009 2:20 PM | Reply | Permalink
mcrose,
Bulldog is one of those I refer to in my post above on the teabaggers.
September 17, 2009 3:26 PM | Reply | Permalink
1)Define and prove "large numbers."
2)By Kennedy's time emigration from Europe was already down to a trickle so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
September 16, 2009 3:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
Still waiting for your "evidence" to arrive, you pathetic racist ignoramus.
Toothless chihuahuas - they yelp a lot and lack bite.
Seems we're no longer of sufficiently "European" ancestry for our yappy little canine. Hmmm...
September 16, 2009 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
Seven hours later and still no links to prove illegals voting in large numbers. Come on, cleverness hisself, show us what stupid gullible jerks we are, bring on the proof, bring on the large numbers.
September 16, 2009 7:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes. Please Mr CleverBulldog, document this wide-spread illegal-allien voting.
And "Glenn Beck said it happens" is about as reliable as "Dick Cheney told me he knows where the WMD are".
I'm all about engaging in discussion, and acknowledging I could be wrong. But when you make up facts (or quote Limbaugh,Beck, O'Reily, etc) you are just wasting all of our time.
September 17, 2009 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may be a Bulldog, but calling yourself Clever is unfounded.
September 16, 2009 10:55 AM | Reply | Permalink
Toothless chihuahua is more like it. Rarely does so much noise come from so inconsequential a source.
September 16, 2009 11:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
theCLeverBulldog claims:
"Criticism of Obama is not based on his race, it is based on his actions."
So, no one who criticizes Obama is guilty of racism? No one in Mississippi, Texas, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Wyoming, Oklahoma, etc. criticizes Obama because he's black?
No one on conservative talk radio, FOX, or the right wing e-mail ring criticizes Obama because of his race?
Offer us an articulate, factual rebuttal, of
anything Obama signed or is pushing.
September 17, 2009 9:47 AM | Reply | Permalink
This is just great. I love it MJ. This one paragraph make the whole post.
Spot on !
C
September 16, 2009 10:26 AM | Reply | Permalink
Almost three-quarters of the country HREF="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/19/opinion/polls/main5098517.shtml">supports Obama's health care reforms - with the public option. Against the initiatives is a mixed bag of traditional conservatives and libertarians advocating midget government, the anti-tax middle class and... sure... I guess some racists. The most powerful nemesis, however, is the medical-industrial complex itself. Proposing such opposition is based on race is ridiculous. (I can already hear the stock argument, "Are you saying there is no racism in America?!!!") The public option is opposed by powerful interests with very deep pockets, and it has at least acquiescent support by the media (very little of which is owned by poor and working class folk). Racism probably will always be the scourge of this country, but asserting the health care issue is race-based serves only to reveal the paucity of imaginative strategy. As long as the Left couches the battle in old, familiar terms, it will delegitimize itself in the debate.
September 16, 2009 10:35 AM | Reply | Permalink
Should begin:
Almost three-quarters of the country supports Obama's health care reforms - with the public option.
September 16, 2009 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
I agree that the 'opposition' is corporate-fomented but they're using latent(and not so latent) racists as their lapdogs.
September 16, 2009 10:40 AM | Reply | Permalink
S F Curt,
I agree, the people behind the war against health care reform are, by and large, not racists, they're the free market capitalists using whatever tool they can muster, racism being just one.
Its the same old story; the magnificent ability of Corporate America, The Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute, The U S Chamber of Commerce, the Conservative Media, and their cohort to manipulate large blocs of the public to build the gallows these capitalists use to hang them.
September 17, 2009 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
If there were no black people, white racists would have invented them long ago.
September 16, 2009 10:42 AM | Reply | Permalink
They are not that clever so they imported them instead.
C
September 16, 2009 11:04 AM | Reply | Permalink
The south shall screw up again, but continue to deny it in typical stupefied fashion.
September 16, 2009 10:54 AM | Reply | Permalink
Racism isn't always hate; sometimes, perhaps most of the time, it's ignorance and fear.
Most racists don't wake up in the morning saying "I want to go do something mean to a black person" .... but if they lose their job or see something unpleasant on the street, they are far, far more likely to think, and believe!, that bad things are happening because black people are in the neighborhood - getting special treatment - are too numerous - aren't as intelligent/moral/whatever as whites - and so on.
Racists aren't even necessarily bad or mean people. When I was growing up about half of the older generation in my family would get up and leave the room if a "n****r" (the term they used) came on television, didn't think blacks should vote, wouldn't have let their children attend school with blacks or share a swimming pool with them (although we were free to play with, share meals with the children of the cooks and other workers at our home - hey, no one ever said it made sense!). At the same time, these people were not mean people and to my knowledge never intentionally hurt anyone - of any race. They even made a point to teach us that we should always be polite and respectful to any adult -- of any color. But, in their hearts they were racists .. because they believed that the color of a person's skin said many things about him and differences in color were differences that never could and never should be bridged.
I'm sure there area still racists in this country. But I'm also willing to bet that their inner beliefs on race are just a small part of who they are. And -- as long as they don't act on those beliefs in a way that affects us all -- they can believe what they want and it's none of our business.
The problem right now is that, as usual, there are some people who are angry at the President - about jobs, the economy, fears about health care, whatever. When some of those people are racists and are willing to act out his or her anger, it winds up being expressed differently, more dangerously for society, than it would be expressed if they were angry at a white president.
These people will be quicker to believe anything bad they hear about the president; more frightened of him, because he's so different/inferior; and much less respectful of him.
I don't think the teabaggers - any of them - are protesting simply because Obama is black; I don't think Joe Wilson thinks the President is a liar on health care because he's black. BUT the protesters are carrying guns, and putting vile, threatening statements on signs, and questioning the president's right to be president because of his "suspicious" birth.... in short, expressing their anger in a louder, uglier, and coarser way than they would if the president was white. ---- And Joe W., I believe, felt it is okay to shout out his opinion of the president in the middle of a very formal occasion when it's very, very likely that he would not have done so if the president were white.
So, in my view, while racism isn't causing anyone to oppose Pres. Obama, it is shaping the WAY that many oppose him. And it is the ugly, disrespectful and possibly even dangerous way the opposition is being expressed -- not the fact of the opposition -- that is the problem here. It's not as important how people feel or what they believe as it is how they are willing to act.
It's probably time to pull out Obama's Philadelpha speech and listen to it again. We - all of us -- need to learn to face these issues and to talk, calmly and civilly, about them when they threaten to interfere with our government or lives. That is the only way we'll ever totally put this needless, cruel, and so very wasteful division behind us in our hearts and heads. --- But in the meantime, we can, and should, be alert to how people act and insist that they observe the same limits and same rules that they should for any president.
September 16, 2009 11:33 AM | Reply | Permalink
September 16, 2009 1:45 PM | Reply | Permalink
What's the matter AnnaA, don't have any thoughts of your own?
Same vernacular from the same tired playbook, "unhinged", "derangement", yadayada.
I suppose screaming like a child having a temper tantrum at a town meeting isn't "unhinged".
No, the cause of our derangement was definitely Bush and Cheney.
September 16, 2009 3:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Go have a look at her comments listing.
AnnaA gives "unhinged" a bad name.
September 16, 2009 4:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
Grouch,
I think Anna is really Orly Taitz, the Birther Queen.
September 17, 2009 9:11 AM | Reply | Permalink
Have they ever been seen in the same place at the same time?
September 17, 2009 2:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Anna", please stick to the Middle East. The only thing you care about is maintaining the occupation. All your other "opinions" are based on who or what you thing is good for Israel or not.
Don't get involved with our issues. Stick to the issues that directly affect one of the countries to which you are devoted (not the USA._
September 16, 2009 4:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Our national discourse plunged into the toilet long before President Obama came along. Whither Clinton, Bush or Obama, we seem to lose our collective civility when "our guy" is not in the White House. I'm guilty of it. Most of us are.
Yes, there is racism with the wing nuts, but it isn't the overwhelming majority like President Carter says. That's just sensationalist rhetoric to drive home the point. I think he could've phrased it better. For example: "The overwhelming majority of those who are yelling the loudest are racist."
Instead, it came across as President Carter was implying that most people who oppose President Obama are racists. That's a very politically charged statement to make. Some of the people who are opposed to the President's policies actually voted for him.
People don't like being called racists. It's a really easy way to poison the well for the mid-terms. Tread lightly.
September 16, 2009 8:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Please, please, please, PLEASE keep saying this! There is no better, more iron-clad evidence that you have won a debate than when your opponent calls you a racist. And since 50%+ of the country now opposes Obama's health care reforms, more than half of the electorate - which necessarily includes large numbers of Obama voters - will now be labeled racist every time this charge is hurled. Way to appeal to the cross-over votes - thanks Dems!
Actually, no respectable person minds being called a racist by a leftist - it's like being called a communist by McCarthy, except with less factual foundation. And being lectured about race by the party that supported slavery and segregation, and fought against anti-lynching laws, well, it just smacks of gooey, sweet irony. Y'all really should read a little history (catch that Southern inflection? It's cause I'm a racist!!) - America's deplorable racial injustices can be laid overwhelmingly - hell, almost exclusively - at the hands of the Democrats. You can look it up.
And PS - don't tell me these racists are all Republicans now. They're not - most of them are dead, and the ones that are still alive and in power remain Democrats (Bob Byrd, wake up, I'm looking at you).
PPS I'm not kidding - call me a racist! Call us all racists! Do it long enough and there just might be 435 GOP congressmen in 2010.
September 16, 2009 8:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
What a jumbled, confusing post. I read it twice and still can't get it. You seem to mention everything and say nothing. Try again?
September 17, 2009 7:19 AM | Reply | Permalink
"Bottom line: if there were no African Americans and no African American President, these white bigots would have insisted on single payer decades ago."
Political students of the old South Africa had a a name for this attitude: "Afrikaaner Socialism." And the apartheid regime certainly wasn't shy about using the tools of big government -- including racial hiring preferences, protectionism and generous subsidies for white families to make more white babies -- to keep its constituents happy.
The idiots at the town halls screaming against cuts in Medicare are sufficient to prove the attitude exists here as well -- not to mention the way the white working class turned against New Deal economics just as soon as blacks started getting a share of the pie, too.
At least the Afrikaaners were honest about what they were trying to do. Our lot can't even buy a clue.
September 17, 2009 12:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
MoO,'ll put it more simply.
1. Racism is the last refuge to which the leftist scoundrel clings. When they run out of facts and logic and still find the debate going against them, they deal the race card. This is an act of intellectual desperation and sure sign they're about to lose the argument.
2. And the negative consequences (for the left) don't stop there because, as RobbyLove pointed out, people don't like being called racists. When Democratic politicians start hurling this charge indiscriminately they're pissing off millions of swing voters, which will come back to bite them. Plus:
3. Being called racists by prominent Democratic politicians is the ultimate example of (excuse the expression) the pot calling the kettle black. Any fair accounting of racial injustices (in words and deeds) between the Dems and Repubs would show the Democrats far, far ahead. Given this deplorable history, Democrats might want to try something other than race-baiting - like seriously embracing policies that would deliver MLK's vision of a color-blind society. I believe the GOP is much more comfortable with this goal than the Democrats, and I offer this simple fact as evidence: in 1996, rank-and-file Republicans were clamoring for Colin Powell to run for President. He declined, but if he wanted the nomination he would have had it, and he would have probably beaten Clinton in the general. Now, I'm no fan of Powell, but this is not how a political party whose central organizing principle is racism would behave.
Resolved: racism exists in America, as in every other country on the planet at every other point in history. But the American political left is having a more difficult time than the center or right adjusting to the fact that, in the US, racism no longer has any material impact on public policies or the opportunities available to racial minorities.
Discuss.
September 17, 2009 8:46 AM | Reply | Permalink
"First, if you think illegals are not voting in large numbers you are fooling yourself."
No, they are. Also, they control the media. And they're stealing your chickens, and boning your sister.
September 17, 2009 10:59 AM | Reply | Permalink
Why is it that homophobes insist that homophobia doesn't exist, anti-Semites insist that anti-Semitism doesn't exist and racists insist that racism may exist but it's no big deal.
Why is it that only white people -- and bought types like Clarence Thomas -- downplay racism while 95% of African Americans see it as a huge problem.
Why is this? It's racism.
September 17, 2009 11:51 AM | Reply | Permalink
da jews did it, an if'n it wasnt dem it was da darkies.
September 17, 2009 12:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
MJ - I'm sure you really believe this, or you wouldn't have gone to the trouble to write the column, but think about it - that's not even an argument. Your conclusion is right there in your premise - you simply assume that racism exists.
And of course you're calling me a racist for 'downplaying' racism. Well of course you don't know me, but let me just say I grew up in a blue collar (and very Democratic) background and I've been exposed to racist sentiments my whole life, and from the very beginning (say 6 years old) they always struck me as just plain stupid - you can't generalize in either a positive or negative way about entire races of people (or any other large group I might add, like 'the rich'). I take people as individuals, always have and always will, which to me seems to be the opposite of racism (which attributes behavior, traits etc to races and not individuals).
Really, you gotta do better than this if you want to convince anyone but the converted...this just ain't gonna fly.
PS Let me just point out another fact that to me seems self-evident - a country that is overwhelmingly white country and racist to the core would never elect a black man President. At some point, the left is just going to have get on board and leave the racial baggage behind.
September 17, 2009 1:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
Rosenberg assumes that racism exists because it is a prima facie fact of life in this country - and not just against one ethnic minority, either.
You make an even greater logical fallacy than the one you accuse Rosenberg of making. You weren't personally accused of anything - unless you are one of the "people spewing virulent hate against the President" (Rosenberg's qualifier in the very first paragraph of the post).
Then, you take your own background (which, on its own, is admirable as you have related it), attempt to superimpose it on every person who has voiced objection to Obama, and then declare, "Racism isn't involved in criticism of Obama!" (Not your exact words, but an easily imputed meaning.)
I don't know your race, but as an African American, I can state the following with complete certitude. If you're a minority and don't believe racism factors heavily into the thought processes of the "people spewing virulent hate", that simply makes you oblivious or utterly sheltered. If you're not a minority and don't believe racism factors heavily into the thought processes of the "people spewing virulent hate", then I suggest you pick up a copy of this book and read it, stat. It's still quite relevant today.
News flash: these people couldn't even tolerate an African American President on "24" or in a movie like "Deep Impact". These folks don't know how to react, so they simply oppose everything he says or does, often without giving even an iota of thought (see this as a prime example of the idiocy).
None of the foregoing places you, personally, in the group that Rosenberg condemns (assuming that your opposition is policy-based, as opposed to emotion and vitriol).
If my assumption is correct, and you have honest policy disagreements, I cannot fathom why you would want to defend the people in the aforementioned group, as they sap credibility from those like yourself.
PS: Your "fact that seems...self-evident" relies on the same sort of erroneous extrapolation I mentioned earlier. Rosenberg neither said nor implied that the US is "overwhelmingly white...and racist to the core." In fact, he said this:
Now, if you'd like to argue that the Republican Party is not "the party of the white male," well...good luck with that. Otherwise, what in this statement supports your final assertion?
September 17, 2009 2:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
The intellectual war mongers are feeding them their little taste of frenzied notions day to day.
We need to be watching for the weaning when they throw the temper tantrum.
September 17, 2009 4:38 PM | Reply | Permalink
MJ, thank you for an excellent column. I used to teach a freshman orientation course at the university where I worked. The bulk of our student body came from an eight county or so service area that was 98% white. We used a little map of the world population to represent the world as a village of a thousand people. Eye opening. Fortunately we had a couple hundred international students also and recruited from outside our service area as well. Not as lonely for minority students as it used to be.
There is such a fear of the unknown in many communities. Anyone who is not homogeneous is a threat. I love the silver lining of LBJ plan. I like to say that we should be learning Spanish because it is the other major language of our hemisphere but I get funny looks for that. Kentucky was a border state in the civil war. We are still a state relying upon outside seasonal labor. One of our demographic specialists said we should be setting up welcome centers along our borders for legal aliens because we need them that much. Our hispanic population is still tiny but getting a toehold.
September 17, 2009 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
Boyd - thanks for the thoughtful response. Of course there are idiot racists who vote Republican, as well as idiot racists who vote Democratic (and some of the latter idiots have black skin). But look carefully at the sweeping statement MJ was making - he asks why white people (and yes I'm white) downplay racism and answers simply "it's racism." Now I'm sure I was downplaying racism in his book, since I believe that while racism exists here and everywhere, it is not materially impacting the opportunities available to black Americans. You can draw a straight line from that belief to underlying racism in his comment above. Believe me, I don't care, I know what I am, but it's pretty clear that's what he's saying. If I'm wrong, or if there are any unwritten nuances in the argument, MJ please enlighten us.
September 17, 2009 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think you're referring to this comment made upthread.
I did look at that comment. And I humbly suggest that your interpretation is not accurate.
Here's the relevant quote from Rosenberg's comment. (emphasis mine)
I don't believe Rosenberg is saying that ALL white people downplay racism. I think what he's saying is that the group that downplays racism consists of white people and "bought types" of African Americans. Perhaps it could be worded more clearly, but given that Rosenberg himself probably checks the "white" circle on his census form, I think it's clear he's not putting all whites in that group.
Now, I have several problems with Rosenberg's statement.
First, he oversimplifies the issue drastically. I believe Hispanic Americans now outnumber African Americans in the United States.
Second, other ethnic minorities are now large enough that they can't be dismissed to the margins - either in the census, or in our political discussions. Hispanic Americans, in fact, are a VERY large part of why Senator Obama is now President Obama.
Third, I violently object to the characterization of Clarence Thomas as a "bought type". Don't get me wrong - I disagree with pretty much everything Thomas says publicly. Whatever else one wants to say about him, though, he worked to get where he is, and I feel he comes by his beliefs honestly. He's utterly misguided, but I don't think Thomas is "owned" by anyone. Rosenberg's completely off the rails with that statement.
September 18, 2009 9:07 AM | Reply | Permalink