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What is Obama's real plan for Afghanistan?

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What is Obama's real plan for Afghanistan? Surely he sees all the signs of quagmire that we do. So why is this happening?

The key to Obama is that he often assumbles what he considers "best practices" into new packages he then tries to promote. The other key is that like any President, he wants to avoid the appearance of losing, even if escalating doesn't assure winning. So here is what he is doing:

[1] Repeating the 2007 Iraq surge strategy of Gen. Petraeus. This was designed for political reasons, to lessen the Iraq violence in order to suppress the Iraq issue as the defining one in the presidential elections. As Petraeus said at the time, he wanted to speed up the Iraq clock to slow down the American one. Anti-war critics were caught off balance. The surge "worked" in ways that were under-reported. First, nearly 100,000 Sunni insurgents were put on the American payroll if they agreed not to shoot American troops. Second, the same McChrystal who now commands Afghanistan was in charge of a massive top-secret extra-judicial killing operation that devastated the remaining insurgents and gave a leading US operative "orgasms" [details in Bob Woodward's last book].

[2] Repeating Richard Holbrooke's diplomatic role in the Balkans where he presided over the complicated Dayton all-party talks on Bosnia, which cobbled together a fragile peace of sorts for the next decade. Holbrooke even negotiated with Slobodon Milosovic over pear brandy and in hunting lodges while the US military campaign was tightening against the Serbian leader. Holbrooke has been managing editor of Foreign Policy magazine, and a director of Lehman Bros. and AIG. He is a symbol of so-called "soft power." As Obama's special ambassador to Afghanistan and Pakistan, he has assembled a large team of diplomatic, political, commercial and agricultural advisers who serve as a shadow neo-colonial state ready to assume responsibility for a negotiated settlement in Afghanistan. He famously said last month that it was impossible to define "success" in Afghanistan "but we'll know it when we see it."

In summary, the Obama plan is to use escalating military force to weaken - but probably not defeat - the insurgencies in Afghanistan and Pakistan, largely based among Pashtun tribes. According to the plan, the next 12-18 months are the "critical window" for "demonstrating measurable progress" in disrupting and dismantling al Qaeda "and its allies" in Afghanistan and Pakistan. As the escalation kills and wounds greater numbers of Taliban, the violence will be described as declining, and Holbrooke's soft-power infrastructure will take over the role of nation-building, including standing up a newly-trained police force and army of hundreds of thousands of Afghans. In this plan, US casualties then will decline after the first 18-24 months and a phased withdrawal can proceed, ending in five, ten or 12 years.

The latest version of the plan is contained in the August 10 Pentagon "sensitive but unclassified" report, "United States Government Integrated Civilian-Military Campaign Plan for Support to Afghanistan", by generals Karl Eikenberry [chief of mission in Kabul] and Stanley McChrystal, US commander. Their document is laced throughout with references to "civ-mil" strategies and "civ-mil" units, as if to emphasize the seamless connections between hard power and soft.

Perhaps it is a tribute to American and global public opinion, but the military strategy lacks any bloodthirsty references to combat, instead describing goals in sanitized language such as this: "International security forces [aka US troops] in partnership with Afghan security forces reverse security trends especially in Helmand, Kandahar, Khost Paktya and Paktika, facilitating GIRoA [Kabul government] presence at sub-national level."[p.17] the only slip came last week when the generals openly talked of using more "trigger pullers" on the ground and outsourcing more non-combat duties.

Have no doubt, they will kill a lot of Afghans and Pakistanis without press releases. Given unlimited time, troops and funding, it is possible that the US strategy can succeed in suppressing a restless Afghanistan/tribal Pakistan, though at the expense of numerous other American priorities. But with a majority of Americans and 70 percent of Democrats opposed to the war and occupation, with similar anti-war majorities rising in NATO countries, the question is whether the Obama strategy can appear to "succeed" in the short run.

The brief answer is no.

First, the current military surge is resulting in higher American troops losses than at any time since the beginning of the war. At the July-August 2009 rate, another 1,100 American troops will die by the end of 2011, on top of some 700 who were killed on Bush's watch. The American death toll inevitably has to rise before it ever begins to subside, if it even does by the end of Obama's first term. The dispatch of more American troops will increase the American casualty rates in the short term, stirring more questions from the public and Congress.

Similarly, the civilian casualty rates in Afghanistan and Pakistan will still increase in an escalated war, inflaming public opinion, even if the Pentagon's tighter guidelines are actually followed. The latest controversy over air strikes called by German forces shows the impossibility of truly "surgical" strikes, pits most Afghans against the foreign forces, and is having an unsettling effect on the Merkel coalition.

Second, unlike Iraq or the Balkans, the longer the foreign occupation, the more the Afghanistan client state weakens. The same is proving true in Pakistan, where the Federally-Administered Tribal Areas [FATA] and Baluchistan [homeland of Pakistan's Pashtun] show signs of breaking from the grip of the centralized state. The most immediate crisis is the discrediting of the Afghan government in the presidential election on which the entire American strategy depends. The civ-mil strategy paper sets a near-term goal of a "capable, accountable and effective government" in Afghanistan, and states that the "most important component [of the plan]", according to the document, "is a strong partnership with the Government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan [GIRoA]." But the US government was unable either to [1] fix the recent elections to benefit its client in Kabul, or [2] unable to prevent its own client from engaging in the most blatant of vote-rigging tactics.

We should not be surprised at this catastrophe. The same US government ignored, or was ignorant of, the "Lord of the Flies" behavior rampant among the private security contractors in charge of security at the American embassy in Kabul.

Now the US has dwindling choices. Ahmad Karzhai and his main opponent, Abdullah, are made of the same cloth. Any foreign plan to impose another leadership is sure to be rejected. The entire US plan to combine military and civilian tracks is derailed.

Whoever was responsible for this failed US strategy, from Karzhai to his American consultants at the highest levels, should be forced to resign. President Obama should retreat with his most trusted advisers to his most secluded study to ask who led him to this place, and quietly plan to slip out of the untenable position he is in. When President Kennedy realized that he could not trust his advisers during the Cuban missile crisis, he turned to his brother Bobby to open a second, secret track. Obama needs a Bobby.

The Democratic-led Congress, which is hardly known for a consistent anti-war stance, may be better able to see the quagmire in the making, and begin hearings on an exit strategy if only to avoid political consequences to their self-interests down the road.

The indispensible factor- never consulted by the experts but never ignored by the consultants- is the 70 percent of Democratic voters who, having no stakes in a failed enterprise, are the difference between winning and losing for the Congress and administration in 2010 and 2012. The public is the only force capable of making Congress step back from the brink.


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Bill Clinton; Well educated, very intelligent, came on national TV and waved his finger while claiming: "I did not have sex with that woman."

Barack Obama; Well educated, very intelligent; escalating the war in Afghanistan.

Did you ever wonder how highly educated, intelligent people can can do the stupid shit they do?

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. . . unlike Iraq or the Balkans, the longer the foreign occupation, the more the Afghanistan client state weakens.

In Iraq and Bosnia our client states -- Shi'i in Iraq and Muslims in Bosnia -- represented the majority. In the first we pushed the Serbs out; in Iraq we paid off the minority Sunni and stopped them from attacking the Shi'i government.

But in Afghanistan -- and/or AfPak -- we're fighting the Pashtuns (a/k/a the Taliban), the largest and dominant ethnic group (40%) and the historical and self-described Lords of Afghanistan.

The "buy-off your enemies" strategy just ain't gonna work. The Pashtuns aren't going to go quietly into Obama's dreams of a 2012 reelection night.

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A better solution is to divide the country into Northern and Southern parts.

Join the Southern part, which is primarily Pashtun, whith the other half of their fellow Pashtuns in Pakistan.

Make the Nothern part some sort of UN protectorate, possibly jointly administered by Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Tajikistan.

See ethnographic map at http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/afghanistan_ethnoling_97.jpg

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Except that the southern part would then be a state that would be forever wanting to get the rest of Pashtunistan back from Pakistan. And if Pashtunistan ever managed to do that (possible if you think wild dreams--let's imagine a eminently sensible Pakistan that just finally says: you know, you Northwest guys are so much trouble, we don't even want you anymore, scram) while continuing its anti-Western Taliban ways, I believe chances are good that it would become what some describe as a "rogue state", no?

Let's be blunt: why would NATO, i.e. "the west," want to support the creation of a Pashtun state while Taliban-type-culture is still their dominant one? What would be the self-interest benefit of that, for "the west"?

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I can think of a couple along the lines of self-interested, utilitarian benefit -- lives and money.

We should return to our attitude post-Lockerbie -- "Did you hear? 259 passengers fell out of the sky. No! You mean it? Any video? No. Oh; that's a shame."

Now, if we can just figure out how not to film the next 9/11, everything can go back to being normal.

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An ethnographic map of Pakistan shows the Pashtun homelands.

As can easily be seen, the Durand Line border between Pakistan divides the Pashtuns between the two counties. Its one of those British-drawn physical geography borders that looked good in a Whitehall office, but ignores human geography.

I'm not proposing a separate state of Pashtunistan. Instead, incorporate the Pashtun areas of Afghanistan into Pakistan.

Pakistan had always had a national interest in the east part of Afghanistan, since otherwise the country is too narrow to have defense in depth against India. In the wars with India, India has come close to cutting Pakistan in two at the middle. So the odds are good that Pakistan would be up for incorporating the Pashtun areas.

The addition of more Pashtuns to Pakistan wouldn't change the ethnic mix much. Pakistan is a country of about 175 million with an ethnic makeup of Punjabi 44.68%, Pashtun (Pathan) 15.42%, Sindhi 14.1%, Sariaki 8.38%, Muhagirs 7.57%, Balochi 3.57%, other 6.28%.

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What a great idea! Impose a partition from the outside. I'm sure a nationalist insurgency would think that's just peachy.

Y'know, that might work here too. Maybe a partition between Red and Blue areas, imposed by, say, France.

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It has sort of worked in the Balkans. If you divide the geography up along ethnic lines you have a much better chance of sucess than if you attempt to preserve colonial boundaries that don't make sense on the ground.

Generally, these people that live in mountain valleys mainly want the flatlanders to go away and leave them alonem e.g. Switzerland, the Balkans, the Caucasus, ...

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My snark is less specifically about partition and more generally about a solution imposed from the outside. With the Afghanis being the "object" of our analysis, the "problem" to which we offer a "solution".

I am not disputing that what we call Afghanistan should not have been created in the way it was created; I am disputing that *we* therefore should put it right by again rearranging the boundaries into what *we* see as a more "natural" grouping.

*We* are the "flatlanders" you speak of.

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We don't have to do much beyond supplying arms and logistics to the non-Pashtun ethnics in the north. They were the backbone of the Northern Alliance that overthrew the Taliban with our help before. Properly supported they could maintain their hold on the northern part of the country.

You keep using the term "Afghans" as if there is a nationality that corresponds to all the people inside the borders of Afghanistan. Actually, Afghan is essentially synonymous with Pashtun, and they dominated the territory now in Afghanistan as well as the Northwest Frontier of Pakistan. But the Uzbeks, Tajiks, Hazara and others aren't really Afghans.

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Merrill, I understand your point about Afghans not really existing as such, since Afghanistan was a construct. But you seem to be missing mine.

You use language such as: "A better solution is to divide the country ...", "Join the Southern part with ...", "Make the Northern part some sort of UN protectorate ...", "If you divide the geography up ...", "We don't have to do much beyond ..."

Who is this *we*, and to *whom* are "we" doing these things? The history of this part of the world is rife with things that the west has done to it, in the name of improving it. We in the US would not stand for someone from another part of the world coming in to fix us. When will we recognize that the rest of the world feels the same way? The people in the places we call Afghanistan want us to stop trying to fix their world, especially since any fix we can imagine is really motivated more by our interests than theirs.

As Ellen points out below, the US national security argument is irrelevant. I am no fan of the Taliban -- I think they are despicable -- but what you propose plays right into their hands, no matter how carefully engineered from a historical and social science standpoint. Better to withdraw and do nothing further.

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After 9/11 we intervened in a Civil War. The Taliban had fought for a couple of years to conquer the country and had succeeded to the point that the Northern Alliance only held a narrow strip on the northern border.

After 9/11, we assisted the Northern Alliance with supplies, air power, and special operations forces, and the Northern Alliance rolled back the Taliban to the border with Pakistan.

What I'm proposing is that we leave, but that we leave behind the resources needed by the northern non-Pashtun ethnics to hold their territories. Plus, render whatever assistance they might need to fend off attacks by the Taliban.

If we simply leave, then the Taliban will probably roll into the north again, with a second episode of massacres and destruction. Particularly disturbing would be the massacres of Shiites by the Taliban, which may motivate Iran to enter the conflict.

As for the Pashtun south, the Pakistan ISI is capable of subverting that wihtout much help from us.

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My Afghani friend, who is in regular contact with his Afghanistan-based relatives has told me that our military bombing of supposed Taliban members is killing more innocent Afghanis than Taliban and at this point we are summarily hated by most of the population. We expected gratitude - didn't we engineer an election - and we're getting scorn and hatred. Ungrateful bastards.

And, by the way, George Washington, a fine fellow but not known to have a brilliant military mind, said of the Revolutionary War with GB that she would win the battles but he (the Americans) would win the war - and thus it's been for military occupiers throughout most of history. The invader/occupier ends up going home with its tail between its legs and its treasury severly depleted - it took Russia ten years in Afghanistan before it would accept the inevitable; how long is it going to take us.

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Mr. Hayden, I would recommend the book, "Counterinsurgency Warfare," the book now used as a text from which our change of strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan began under David Petraeus. You don't seem to understand the shift from conventional warfare.

Unfortunately, with counter-insurgency tactics one can expect an increased casualty rate among occupation forces (the U.S. and NATO) but they will eventually subside as the population is won over, the support of the civilian population being the primary goal of the counter-insurgency strategy.

The MSM simply have not caught onto the military paradigm shift initiated by Petraeus. I suspect it is due to professional laziness.

Secondly, Mr. Hayden, you failed to recognize that the Clinton machine, under the authority of Obama and the Brzezinski neo-liberals, are actively working to undermine Karzai, the neo-cons' UNICAL puppet. This could be interpreted as a change in "who benefits," with the ascendancy of a new group of neo-liberal oligarchs.

Otherwise, the "Great Game" in Central Asia is about the oil and gas resources and the various pipelines through Afghanistan and Pakistan to transport it to the Karachi seaport terminals. The sooner we all start recognizing reality the better chance democracy will have in coming to terms with the extended war of adventurism both neo-conservatives and neo-liberals support.

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Can you give a date when the "population will be won over?" When Russia invaded Afghanistan, Brzezinski, National Security Advisor to Carter told Carter that now was the time to 'give' Russia its Vietnam.

Having lived through the disatrous Vietnam debacle, I thought (hoped) that we had learned our lesson. (Whoever said that knowing history is a deterent to repeating it was full of crap.)

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I think Alexander's generals are mouldering in their graves awaiting the date the "population will be won over".

As we continue the geostrategic contretemps with the Russian Bear, this dance in Afghanistan becomes more awkward. Post election, and post-haste, we should declare victory for democracy and get out.

It will serve to Obama's everlasting credit that he winds down the neocon attempts to force feed democracy to Asia minor and the middle east at the point of a gun.

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The Army Field Manual "Counterinsurgency" is based on similar principles (warning, 12 MByte PDF).

Good luck in "winning over" the Pashtuns.

From Pashtunwili the description of
Badal (justice/revenge) reads as follows:


- to seek justice over time or over space to avenge a wrong. This applies to injustices committed yesterday or 1000 years ago if the wrongdoer still exists. Justice in Pashtun lore needs elaborating: even a mere taunt (or "Paighor") is regarded as an insult - which can only usually be redressed by shedding of the taunter's blood (and if he isn't available, then his next closest male relation). This in turn leads to a blood feud that can last generations and involve whole tribes with the loss of hundreds of lives. Normally blood feuds in this all male dominated setup are then settled in a number of ways.

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if the wrongdoer still exists

Well, there, you see! It does not go on forever.

Kipling, who had given the matter some study, said this:

"When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An’ go to your Gawd like a soldier."

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Do most progressives visualizes big money looming behind most of what politicians do?
1. We have the war profiteers, especially the hired "security" forces who seriously outnumber the military and are either formerly military and overpaid or foreign and undertrained, depending on what you read. Really overstiumulates the sense of injustice.
2. We have the oil pipeline theory, but are there active payer/players?
3. On the subject of big money, its known but not discussed that the Taliban is funded primarily by the international opium trade.

A sane and stable government in Afghanistan and Pakistan is an okay goal, but I don't know how you can win civilian hearts and minds with guns and bombs, especially given the anti-Muslim mindset in the fundamentalist portion of the military. If things did get too hot for Al Queda there, they would move elsewhere. Maybe they already have.

I can imagine Obama walking away with a win (for most people, though not the paranoid, anti-humanist right) by behaving like a wise and Christian philosopher - stop shooting, use the bomb and sub-contractor money to do something dramatic and good for the people- let them decide, like you do in a democracy. And speaking of letting the people decide, we Americans have decided that a questionable goal with a questionable win at a trillion dollar cost is not what we want. That ought to matter more to him.


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On Charlie Rose this evening Sen. Levin reminds us that abandoning Afghanistan would allow a "a Taliban-friendly government that could once again provide a safe haven for al Qaeda to terrorize us and the world." He added that al Qaeda could establish training camps similar to those existing pre-9/11 where planning for anti-American terrorist actions could occur.

Apparently, he must think that we have made no progress in identifying potential terrorists who would enter or depart those training camps; no progress in infiltrating and subverting terrorist cells which are charged with carrying out the attacks; no progress in denying cells the wherewithal to fund their planned attacks; no progress in our ability to attack the camps with drones, cruise missiles, etc.

The 9/11 terrorists planned and financed their attack in Hamburg, in Spain, and in Las Vegas and Florida. Shut down or restrict al Qaeda's freedom to operate in the West and the threat becomes de minimus.

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Okay I am going to throw it out there. Lets bring back Omniscient Obama from the primary season and conceive of a good 'Rope-a-dope' theory.

Is Obama diverting attention deliberately to the Afghanistan war so that we can high tail it out of Iraq without him being perceived as weak? Right now all the leftists are whining in congress about the escalation in Afghanistan which is building his creed with true red blooded Americans who don't trust those commie bastards. So then we sit in Afghanistan with a few legions for a couple years and occasionally kill some goat herders for show and then present a democratic election, and a couple of show reconstruction projects with happy villagers, and then get the hell out.

What do you think? Is the magic back?


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a good 'Rope-a-dope' theory.

One doesn't want to find oneself twisting facts to fit a (cherished)preconception, but it is damn hard to imagine that anyone with half a brain (let alone Prez) could be dumb enough to get his tit caught in the Afghan wringer...that said, one thinks there must be a plan, and, of course, all of the to-ing and fro-ing that is made public is pure theatre by definition.

Since Prez learned that from the master (Saul), it is not unreasonable for us to look for the okey-doke, even if we acknowledge how badly we want it to be there....

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Jolly, I didn't mean to borrow your fine metaphors. I am merely hopeful that there is a better strategy out there and thought I would offer one.

I do agree that Mr. P. is pretty bright, and feinting Gun ho in the mountains of Afghanistan while running like hell from the hornest nest we created in Iraq makes some sense. Not saying I buy it, but it beats the alternative: He really does believe this war is indispensable (or whatever term of the day). Well we all know how that will end.

Sure this might be perceived as a cynical reading, but hey have hope. Can't we take pills for cognitive dissonance these days.

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However, today the Grey lady shared this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/world/asia/15swat.html?hp

Their are two ways to win against insurgents:

One- you are the strong nice guy and over time the locals decide to invest their futures with you.
Two- you ruthless destroy any who undermine you, and punish them harshly enough to forever fear you.

Which one are our allies taking? Nothing like opposite strategies working against one another.

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harshly enough to forever fear you.

From what I heard of the Soviet approach to intimidating the Pashtuns, there is no way we can come close, and they failed.

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restrict al Qaeda's freedom to operate in the West

Guided by sensitive listening devices, predator armed drones are circling, even now, over Hamburg and Spain...

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cognitive dissonance

that's what I was trying to say...We may merely be in the throes of dissonance...

But how could he be dumb enough to be sincere about his Afghanistan protestations?

(For that matter, in the current political climate, one might well suggest that it is dumb to be sincere about any stated policy goals and programs.)

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I agree. The war waging on in Afghanistan right now is NOT the same as the overly drawn-out Iraq war under Bush's presidency. Yet, there are some striking similarities--namely, our constant presence there without any real hope of true success.
And it's being handled, at least coverage-wise, in an extremely similar fashion to Iraq. We should push it to win or get out of there. I'm one for leaving, myself.

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