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Does Top Human Rights Watch Official Have a Nazi Problem?

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I had thought the attacks on the bias of Human Rights Watch were invariably politically motivated. In fact, most of it is. The lobby opposes any and all mention of Israel's violations of human rights, whether it comes from HRW or Israeli patriots.

Nonetheless, this is disturbing. HRW's top critic of Israel's military is a collector of Nazi junk. He loves the stuff and even wrote a book celebrating his hobby.

Here is what Helena Cobban has to say about it. She is a long-time critic of Israel, deemed "no friend of Israel" by the lobby types. (Of course, she is. She just hates the occupation).

Helena does a brave thing in this column. She tells her friends what they do not want to hear. It is so much easier calling out one's enemies.

This is one spooky story. Human Rights Watch has some serious decisions too make.


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Marc Garlasco is a piece of work, as they say.

Garlasco is a senior military analyst at Human Rights Watch.

Human Rights Watch is one of the world’s leading independent organizations dedicated to defending and protecting human rights.

http://www.hrw.org/en/about

Garlasco specializes in battle damage assessment, military operations, and interrogations.

Here's Garlasco on Iraq (from an Aug 2008 60 Minutes interview with Scott Pelley):

"There's this macabre kind of calculus that the military goes through on every air strike, where they try to figure out how many dead civilians is dead bad guy worth," says Marc Garlasco, who knows the calculus of civilian casualties as well as anyone.

At the Pentagon, Garlasco was chief of high value targeting at the start of the Iraq war. He told 60 Minutes how many civilians he was allowed to kill around each high-value target -- targets like Saddam Hussein and his leadership.

"Our number was 30. So, for example, Saddam Hussein. If you're gonna kill up to 29 people in a strike against Saddam Hussein, that's not a problem," Garlasco explains. "But once you hit that number 30, we actually had to go to either President Bush, or Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld."

Garlasco says, before the invasion of Iraq, he recommended 50 air strikes aimed at high-value targets -- Iraqi officials.

But he says none of the targets on the list were actually killed. Instead, he says, "a couple of hundred civilians at least" were killed.

Here's Garlasco on Afghanistan, from the same interview:

"I don't think people really appreciate the gymnastics that the U.S. military goes through in order to make sure that they're not killing civilians," Garlasco points out.

"If so much care is being taken why are so many civilians getting killed?" Pelley asks.

"Because the Taliban are violating international law,” says Garlasco, “and because the U.S. just doesn't have enough troops on the ground. You have the Taliban shielding in people's homes. And you have this small number of troops on the ground. And sometimes the only thing they can do is drop bombs.”


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/25/60minutes/main3411230_page2.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

"Human Rights Watch" -- think about it.

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don't look there.
look here.

don't criticize that.
criticize this.

another day.
another hasbara.


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If he is a distraction from HRW's reporting on the crimes against the Palestinians, then he has to go.

It really is that simple.

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I agree.

If this crew of HRW staffers issues another report on Israeli war crimes, they'll be laughed out of the room. But nothing can stop them from squandering the contributions of whatever donors remain at the organization. Even the Saudis could get more bang for their anti-Israel buck by donating to J Street.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/09/downfall.asp

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Cobban seems to have jumped the shark on this one. In her latest update she says this:

As a Quaker, I find it very troubling that anyone spends much of their free time collecting "military memorabilia", from any military. I do believe this represents an unhealthy obsession with matters military. If my son had done this in his teens I would have been concerned enough. If he'd continued to obsessively pursue such a hobby till his 30s I would be very seriously worried.

She certainly has the right to feel that way, but not to project her phobias on others.

I know many pilots who devote time, energy and money to their hobby of restoring and flying WWII aircraft, and who have great respect for the skill and accomplishments of the Luftwaffe. They'd restore Messerschmidts and Fokkers just as lovingly if they could get their hands on them. Some, who can afford it, fly MIGS. Let me tell you, their love of these aircraft and the lore surrounding them in no way diminishes their fervor for American values.

Ms. Cobban's fear of all things military undermines her standing to comment on Mr. Garlasco's interest in military things. If you took her quote above to it's logical conclusion, she'd appear to prefer to have someone with absolutely no knowledge of military matters occupying Mr. Garlasco's position.

[Note: I do not know whether Mr. Garlasco is or is not qualified to hold his position. But he should be judged on the merits of his performance, not on his avocational interests. We haven't yet become a thought police state, I hope.]

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We haven't yet become a thought police state, I hope.

No, we still have the opportunity to express our opinions, including those different from yours.

She certainly has the right to feel that way, but not to project her phobias on others.

You must work hard to resist this threat of fear that you feel from other people's opinions.

he should be judged on the merits of his performance, not on his avocational interests.

Exactly, and my opinion, the opinion of someone with extensive military experience, by the way, and not a Quaker, is that his love of Nazi memorabilia, not even condidering his other drawbacks, which include the defending of the military's wanton killing of civilians, certainly disqualifies him from serving in an agency that is supposedly dedicated to defending and protecting human rights.

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But it's okay for HRW to hire longstanding pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel activists like Sarah Leah Whitson and Joe Stork to run their Middle East show? What does it say about HRW's neutrality/objectivity that it consistently hires people from pro-Palestinian activist backgrounds, but never anyone with a pro-Israel background, including liberal pro-Israel but anti-occupation types?

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HRW should merge with J street. Real pro-Israel types, by definition, don't consider Israel guilty of the crimes against the Palestinians. How can you be Pro-Israel if you believe that Israeli democratically elected and supported by the majority of Israeli people government commits crimes against the Palestinians. If you really believe so, your conscience requires you to be anti-Israel.

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I'm not sure what you're driving at, but given that the Hezbollah, the PA, and Hamas are not exactly paradigms of human rights virtue, it should be easy enough for HRW, if it were so inclined, to find people to staff its Middle East division with individuals who don't have strong pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel priors, but who are just interesting in enforcing neutral human rights standards all around. By contrast, in a recent public speech on human rights abuses in the Middle East, Whitson spend the bulk of her time on Israel, and barely mentioned Hamas and Hezbollah. Even though Hezbollah clearly "started" the 2007 war by kidnapping and murdering Israelis, she refers to the war as "Israel's war in Lebanon," not something remotely neutral like the "Hezbollah-Israel conflict." And so on.

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who are just interesting in enforcing neutral human rights standards all around.
You are very, very naive. People who are just interesting in enforcing neutral human rights standards all around would spend little if any time on Hezbollah-Israel conflict. That conflict should be at the bottom of their priorities.
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Anna A writes: "How can you be Pro-Israel if you believe that Israeli democratically elected and supported by the majority of Israeli people government commits crimes against the Palestinians. If you really believe so, your conscience requires you to be anti-Israel."

Why not? I'm not anti-American but I believe that the democratically elected government of the United States, supported by the American people, committed war crimes in Vietnam and Iraq."

And that's my own country. You seem not to get democracy. Read a book.

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Preferably not authored by Glen Beck.

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Than the word "anti" makes no sense.
Would you be anti-German or anti-Japan, during WW2 or anti-USSR during the Cold war? Can you you claim to be pro-gay and be against gay marriage and gay civil unions, if you claim that you believe that gay marriage is bad for gays?

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Seems to me this is about personal preferences and not about any substantive issue at all. Sometimes people just need to butt out of other people's affairs. Mind your own business is a good rule in most instances.

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I agree, I'm sure if a lawyer in the US Department of Justice Civil Rights spends much of his free time collecting "Confederacy memorabilia" Oleeb would ask all of us just to butt out of other people's affairs.

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And what do you think you prove by your preposterous example other than you are quick to judge on little or no evidence of anything other than you don't like it? You need to take a chill pill.

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Given your response, it's obvious, I've proved my point.

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And your point was what? You think a guy is guilty of something because he has an interest you don't like? When did they put you in charge of the thought police?

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I think the hobby is creepy, but someone above is right--this is thought police territory and Helena's reaction in particular is nauseating. Don Bacon's post is substantive and I've long had mixed feelings about Garlasco for those reasons, and mythbuster also makes a good point--from now on Garlasco will be made the issue whenever HRW reports on Israeli war crimes. So yeah, he should resign.

At the same time, the fact that he's interested in the German military is simply not enough reason to justify the smarmy implication that he's a Nazi sympathizer--I've got a friend who is fascinated by Roman history, but I don't go around accusing him of approving of crucifixions and the genocidal practices of the Roman military when they suppressed revolts. And though I'm not fan of the military, Helena's position on people interested in military memorabilia really makes her version of Quakerism seem more like pacifist McCarthyism.

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For all this guy's unsavory idiosyncracies, just who would you have as HRW's "senior military affairs specialist"? The Dalai Lama? If you need information on pre-packaged junk pastry, ask Little Debbie. If you need analysis of depredation, you ask someone who has first-hand knowlege of depredation.

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All true, but this will only serve as a talking point to bash HRW when they catch the World's Least Moral Army killing Palestinian women and children...again.

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Mythbuster,
What's your Moral ranking of World Armies?
Which army is the second Least Moral Army, third and so on? What's the Most Moral Army? Can you explain the methodology behind your ranking?

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Anna, do you know of any army in the world that routinely and reflexively self-advertises itself as "the most moral army in the world" whenever its practices are questioned?

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Yes, all of them.

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google "most moral army in the world" and you will get the answer.

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Yes all armies which "practices are questioned"
self-advertise themselves as "the most moral armies in the world. It just happens that Israel is the only such country. Anyway, let's go back to my original ranking of "Moral" ranking of World Armies. Do you have your own ranking?

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i dont' have a ranking like that. it is your question so please answer it.

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Mythbuster, Can you help us with ranking?

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you are avoiding answering your own query. i will now give you my answer.

the most moral army in the world is the salvation army.

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You're right about who to hire to do a job.

Garlasco had actually been in the belly-of-the-beast and what does he do? He joins an organization that works to publicize the kinds of terrible military actions including "wanton killing of civilians" that he was involved in.

Helena making common cause with those who actively despise her and everything she stands for was a mistake. This is not the first time she has targeted Marc Garlasco, BTW. Her anti-military bias is a problem and this is ridiculous:

All of us who are concerned about the integrity of HRW's work going forward need to gain a clear understanding of the nature of Garlasco's collection. He has told HRW officers that it contains both German and American memorabilia from the WW-2 era. But in what balance? I think that information would be helpful.

Within this question of the "balance" of his collecting and related interests, it is relevant to ask why his first book-length publication was on the German artefacts rather than American or other artefacts.

http://justworldnews.org/archives/003789.html

So. If Garlasco has 500 German items and only 499 American items, does that make him a nazisymp fer sure?

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this is off-topic but i feel so nauseated after reading this that i just need to vomit it out:

Abe Foxman, President of ADL and AIPAC .... knew exactly what they were doing four days earlier as both offered to send an Israeli flag to Our Lady of Perpetual Help Basilica in Boston's Mission Hill section. The plan was to wrap Ted Kennedy’s casket, side by side with the American flag. [ link ]
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"HRW should merge with J street. Real pro-Israel types, by definition, don't consider Israel guilty of the crimes against the Palestinians."
Oh please, JStreet are AIPAC lite. Pro-American types need to kick the entire Israel lobby into touch. Israel should use it's Diplomats not it's lobby and American citizens masquerading as anything else except their attachments to a foreign country that is not our own.
National Jewish Leadership Advocacy Day on Iran, lobbying an American president to make more war in the interests of Israeli expansionism. More American blood and treasure for Israel, manoeuvred by their lobby's and their Advocates of Jewish America. How odd, I thought their democratically elected representatives were their, like my, advocates.
The only way America can save itself from these nutters is to ignore the BS about anti Semitism or the other smears they use to shut down debate. We need to say clearly - If you want to put Israel or Timbuktu, first, emigrate.
Iraq wasn't about oil, they can't make the case for that but lucky them they knock down anyone smart enough to question them as "anti Semites." Most of know that These guys pushing our President and the Europeans to bomb Iran. We have to resist and we have to take them on to make sure nothing like Iraq and Afghanistan ever happen again. The Israel lobby is breaking the back of America, they seem to have about as much mercy for us as they do for the Iranians.
I would love for more American Jews to speak out and respect those who do but we should not replace one agent of a foreign country with another. That's just repackaging.

BluePearl, Abe Foxman said "Anti Americanism is Anti Semitism," guess that means we're all Israeli's now. We are two different countries, America needs to reestablish our independence to better serve our own national interests. If we had done this long ago, my bet is it would have worked out better for ordianry Israeli's and Palestinians.

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Hi Star, How does the following sound to you?

"Anti Americanism is Anti Mexicanism," guess that means we're all Mexicans now. We are two different countries, America needs to reestablish our independence to better serve our own national interests. If we had done this long ago, my bet is it would have worked out better for ordianry Mexicans and Americans.

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Hi, Anna, these are some relevant facts about the Jewish/Israel lobby since you bring up Mexicans. It is the same Israeli flag waving crowd that blasted legal American citizens of Mexican origin when they flew two flags [US and Mexican] at a peaceful demonstration in 2006. The same crowd
[ Steven Steinlight] who wrote that - "Open borders threaten Jewish clout." Ironies of irony, it was that same crowd back in 1967 that supported open borders, but that was about cheap labor, they never reckoned on other groups "threatening Jewish [political] clout" in America.
http://www.forward.com/articles/785/
The Lobby's dictat, Do As We Say Not As We Do. That's the problem that is ripping this country apart.

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The Jewish lobby dictat. Sounds truly liberal. You are truly the Liberal Conscience.

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